Did Oswald Practice Tradecraft?

[Len Colby]

How positively Posnerian of you! And your logical leaps are even bigger than his. Though Ferrie may have had a role given his family history it is likely LHO would have joined the military anyway. Only two of the bits you mentioned would indicate “it was Ferrie who had interested Oswald in intelligence work” 1) him supposedly trying “to interest his cadets in the learning of Russian” and 2) LHO’s supposedly becoming “very interested in surveilling places through photography while in Ferrie's CAP” but this far from conclusive. Can you name any other Ferrie CAP protégées who went into intel. Who said Ferrie tried to get the cadets to speak Russian? Did the cadets say Ferrie was responsible for LHO’s interest in surveillance?

You know Colby this is about it with me.

Time after time I have pointed out what sources I use in this research. I have done this with abundant footnotes.

But even when I summarize what was said, and at times, even quote it, and then footnote it, you still ask for more of what I just said.

Nothing is ever enough for you. And this is what I said previously. You are almost oblivious to the fact that you have done just about zero original research in this field. In fact, in a weird way, you actually seem to be kind of proud of it. But then, beyond that, you don't even read the books which contain some of this information in them.

The above passage is almost humorous in its McAdams like insistence on avoiding the point. If Oswald was encouraged to learn Russian and to take secret photos, well is that not synoptic of his agent provacateur career: the defection to Russia, the acquaintance with the White Russians and then the infiltration partly for observation purposes later? I mean what did you want: Ferrie to deliver a whole 16 week heavy duty class in spy work?

1) It is far from confirmed Ferrie did those things but even if he did it is far from conclusive.

2) Other that his FPCC antics he didn’t have much of an agent provacateur career

3) I can’t figure out what you think he did for the ONI or CIA all those years other that PERHAPS make contact with Russian agents in Atsugi and his FPCC stunt. I’ve seen no evidence he attempted to do any spying in the USSR or tried to penetrate leftist groups in the US and the evidence he tried to do in Japan is weak.

4) LHO was never very good at making friends or ends meet and thus was unlikely offers of help and frienship where ever they came from. That would especially apply to people who spoke Russian and were interested in its literature. That said I haven’t seen much evidence his Russian émigré friends were to the right of the Kennedys

I already mentioned the Marines Ferrie recruited. What did you want, an entire matrix like tracking over every student Ferrie ever encountered and what happened to them?

I asked you about intelligence agents, it is not at all surprising that some kids went from the CAP into the armed services in fact since it is a paramilitary organization for teenagers it would be surprising if none had. The vast majority or jarheads aren’t/weren’t spies. Fetzer was a Marine and so (I believe) was Healy, perhaps they were ONI or CIA.

CORRECTION: Healy served in the Army, same difference. Ron Kovic and Don Imus were Marines, I doubt they were intel. ops.

Get off it will you! Do something yourself for a change. But to show how nutty this is, what if he did not? We are talking about Oswald. ANd Ferrie's indelible influence on him.

BTW, the answer to the last two questions are: a former cadet and yes.

And then without reading any of these sources I quoted, you can call me Poserian. Wow.

An obvious response to ending your post “case closed”

One last cherry on top. If you read Mellen--which you have not--you will learn that if Oswald had a baby boy, he was going to name it David.

That was in the WC, “David Lee Oswald” any evidence it in homage of Ferrie or the 2 had contact after 1955?

Edited October 30, 2010 by Len Colby

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

I asked an expert on psyops to read ME & LEE. Here is what he

has just written back, which seems to fit squarely within the

subject of this thread. I recommend that you read this book.

Jim, I just finished reading "Lee and Me" by Judyth Vary Baker

which you sent me. I have many thoughts about it, but here are

my initial reactions:

1---This book is a monumental achievement that intel never

thought could happen and worked hard to see that Judyth's

story would never see the light of day. Cutouts, phony

JFK reserchers has also been used to try and discredit

JVB's story as well as vicious smear campaigns.

No matter what the critics can say or have said before it was

published, this book cuts through their lies like a red hot knife

through a block of butter. The evidence provided in this book and

available from other sources support it fully. So if critics can't

handle that, then too bad. Just like when Oliver Stone's movie

JFK was announced to be in production, the intel cutouts and

sympathizers started their campaigns to discredit the movie and

the evidence.

2---JBV is a survivor of unbelievably intense levels of manipulation,

processing and harassment using sophisticated psyops which has

continued ever since her days in New Orleans. She has most

likely always had a case officer assigned to watch her movements

and supervise her management by psyops, mini-psyops and

mini-cointelpro type actions.

This book is a celebration of the victory of JVB's life over evil.

She has beaten the deck stacked against her and has now

triumphed. This book is her victory celebration and confetti

parade all in one and is a big kick in the face to intel and those

that abused and persecuted her for so many years. Anyone who

is well informed about how intel uses psyops and mindkontrol to

manipulate their victims, will realize that everything JVB has written

about it in this book and her other postings on the internet fits 100%

with the way intel typically does business and harasses witnesses.

3---JVB is truly a genius and was selected by intel early on for special use

by intel. She was set to become a great American physician and

medical researcher for cancer, and her career was stolen from her

by evil, self serving men who used the war against communism and

the cold war to justify their rampant evil acts which culminated in the

murder of JFK, and the murders of LHO, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen

and many other witnesses.

4---JVB's meeting with LHO was not a chance occurrence and like all her

events in New Orleans was planned and manipulated by intel.

5---JVB was a young, immature girl who was played according to her

emotion needs and processed very cruelly in order to be manipulated

and used by intel. One use was to keep LHO occupied and distracted

so that he would cooperate with "the plan", and he was used also to

keep JVB occupied and locked into the plan.

6---The book is disturbing, grotesque and alarming in what it reveals about

the fusion between intel, the military, the mob, academia, federal and

local govt, the courts, and intel. It reveals the vicious, murderous

underbelly of how the govt really operates and documents how the

actual transformation of our nation from a Republic to

fascist/stasi military run dictatorship occurred.

7---This excellent book shows how some of the most vicious and evil acts

were rationalized under the "fight against communism" and how every

rule of law was violated with no respect for human rights.

8---This book fills in many of the blanks that show beyond any reasonable

doubt that JVB has been telling the truth about her relationship with

LHO, and that LHO never did try and kill JFK, that he was set up as a

mindkontrolled patsy, processed by use of sophisticated psyops.

9---For the first time, the tradecraft of how intel agents are recruited,

processed, and manipulated is disclosed in step by step detail, which

itself is a major disclosure to the uninformed public who wants to

learn how this is done.

10---The book shows beyond any reasonable doubt the LHO was a

PROFESSIONAL INTEL OPERATIVE trained to use sex as a tool

to recruit and control (he did admit to JVB that he had sex with the

lady in Mexico for intel purposes). It shows how once one becomes

a professional intel operative, they can easily be reassigned (ie detailed)

to many other of the over 37 intel agencies of the US shadow govt,

many of which are now privatized (it has been estimated that approx.

80% of all US intel, psyops, and black ops have now been privatized).

LHO was recruited and trained by naval intel which owned him and

detailed him to his assignment in New Orleans which was probably

the FBI, although he likely worked with the CIA and Mob on a regular

basis too.

11--The book shows how sophisticated psyops was used to recruit and

manipulate Dr. Ochsner also and how he was pulled into the system

fighting communism. JVB's descriptions of INCA are important and

show how intel has infiltrated medicine, academia in the US and

foreign countries.

12--This excellent book shows how intel provides the rewards and

ego stroking needed to reinforcement commitment to their agenda

by the various players. All had to be promised a carrot on the end

of a stick which they could never quite each, consume or attain.

13--This excellent book shows that nothing has really changed since

the coup de etat surrounding JFK's murder brought in a whole

new form of govt (which is really the oldest form of govt, a military

dictatorship, only this time with hidden controllers buried in the

shadow govt). We now has a nazi/stasi fascist dictatorship that

is still in place with the same power groups pulling the strings and

all these groups are organized into what Ike called the "military

industrial complex", best referred to as the shadow govt (and

best described by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.).

After reading this excellent book it is easy to understand why intel

never wanted this information about their tradecraft exposed, and

never wanted the evidence that shows LHO was completely innocent

of the allegations he killed JFK to be available for all to examine.

Intel stopped "60 Minutes" and prevented the History channel from

re-broadcasting the "guilty men" segment as well as the segment

on JVB. This book explains why.

[William Kelly]

I asked an expert on psyops to read ME & LEE. Here is what he

has just written back, which seems to fit squarely within the

subject of this thread. I recommend that you read this book.

Jim, I just finished reading "Lee and Me" by Judyth Vary Baker

which you sent me. I have many thoughts about it, but here are

my initial reactions:

1---This book is a monumental achievement that intel never

thought could happen and worked hard to see that Judyth's

story would never see the light of day. Cutouts, phony

JFK reserchers has also been used to try and discredit

JVB's story as well as vicious smear campaigns.

No matter what the critics can say or have said before it was

published, this book cuts through their lies like a red hot knife

through a block of butter. The evidence provided in this book and

available from other sources support it fully. So if critics can't

handle that, then too bad. Just like when Oliver Stone's movie

JFK was announced to be in production, the intel cutouts and

sympathizers started their campaigns to discredit the movie and

the evidence.

2---JBV is a survivor of unbelievably intense levels of manipulation,

processing and harassment using sophisticated psyops which has

continued ever since her days in New Orleans. She has most

likely always had a case officer assigned to watch her movements

and supervise her management by psyops, mini-psyops and

mini-cointelpro type actions.

This book is a celebration of the victory of JVB's life over evil.

She has beaten the deck stacked against her and has now

triumphed. This book is her victory celebration and confetti

parade all in one and is a big kick in the face to intel and those

that abused and persecuted her for so many years. Anyone who

is well informed about how intel uses psyops and mindkontrol to

manipulate their victims, will realize that everything JVB has written

about it in this book and her other postings on the internet fits 100%

with the way intel typically does business and harasses witnesses.

3---JVB is truly a genius and was selected by intel early on for special use

by intel. She was set to become a great American physician and

medical researcher for cancer, and her career was stolen from her

by evil, self serving men who used the war against communism and

the cold war to justify their rampant evil acts which culminated in the

murder of JFK, and the murders of LHO, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen

and many other witnesses.

4---JVB's meeting with LHO was not a chance occurrence and like all her

events in New Orleans was planned and manipulated by intel.

5---JVB was a young, immature girl who was played according to her

emotion needs and processed very cruelly in order to be manipulated

and used by intel. One use was to keep LHO occupied and distracted

so that he would cooperate with "the plan", and he was used also to

keep JVB occupied and locked into the plan.

6---The book is disturbing, grotesque and alarming in what it reveals about

the fusion between intel, the military, the mob, academia, federal and

local govt, the courts, and intel. It reveals the vicious, murderous

underbelly of how the govt really operates and documents how the

actual transformation of our nation from a Republic to

fascist/stasi military run dictatorship occurred.

7---This excellent book shows how some of the most vicious and evil acts

were rationalized under the "fight against communism" and how every

rule of law was violated with no respect for human rights.

8---This book fills in many of the blanks that show beyond any reasonable

doubt that JVB has been telling the truth about her relationship with

LHO, and that LHO never did try and kill JFK, that he was set up as a

mindkontrolled patsy, processed by use of sophisticated psyops.

9---For the first time, the tradecraft of how intel agents are recruited,

processed, and manipulated is disclosed in step by step detail, which

itself is a major disclosure to the uninformed public who wants to

learn how this is done.

10---The book shows beyond any reasonable doubt the LHO was a

PROFESSIONAL INTEL OPERATIVE trained to use sex as a tool

to recruit and control (he did admit to JVB that he had sex with the

lady in Mexico for intel purposes). It shows how once one becomes

a professional intel operative, they can easily be reassigned (ie detailed)

to many other of the over 37 intel agencies of the US shadow govt,

many of which are now privatized (it has been estimated that approx.

80% of all US intel, psyops, and black ops have now been privatized).

LHO was recruited and trained by naval intel which owned him and

detailed him to his assignment in New Orleans which was probably

the FBI, although he likely worked with the CIA and Mob on a regular

basis too.

11--The book shows how sophisticated psyops was used to recruit and

manipulate Dr. Ochsner also and how he was pulled into the system

fighting communism. JVB's descriptions of INCA are important and

show how intel has infiltrated medicine, academia in the US and

foreign countries.

12--This excellent book shows how intel provides the rewards and

ego stroking needed to reinforcement commitment to their agenda

by the various players. All had to be promised a carrot on the end

of a stick which they could never quite each, consume or attain.

13--This excellent book shows that nothing has really changed since

the coup de etat surrounding JFK's murder brought in a whole

new form of govt (which is really the oldest form of govt, a military

dictatorship, only this time with hidden controllers buried in the

shadow govt). We now has a nazi/stasi fascist dictatorship that

is still in place with the same power groups pulling the strings and

all these groups are organized into what Ike called the "military

industrial complex", best referred to as the shadow govt (and

best described by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.).

After reading this excellent book it is easy to understand why intel

never wanted this information about their tradecraft exposed, and

never wanted the evidence that shows LHO was completely innocent

of the allegations he killed JFK to be available for all to examine.

Intel stopped "60 Minutes" and prevented the History channel from

re-broadcasting the "guilty men" segment as well as the segment

on JVB. This book explains why.

Why would an anonymous Psy Ops Expert have to say the book is "excellent" more than once.

He almost convinces me that Oswald was indeed a Lone Nut Case, if JVB is our only source.

Thank God she isn't.

Bill Kelly

[Guest Tom Scully]

Okay Bill, Greg.... I am wondering why then life story of Al Hubbard has not been turned into a starring role vehicle for

Leonardo DeCaprio? There had to be an investment made in keeping this guy below the radar for the last 35 years.

http://books.google.com/books?id=tCxmamU5ZuUC&pg=PA181&dq=%22*later,+kerry+came+to+believe+that+these+audio%22&hl=en&ei=j3_LTLrZNMTflgejwryXBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22*later%2C%20kerry%20came%20to%20believe%20that%20these%20audio%22&f=false

The Prankster and the Conspiracy: The Story of Kerry Thornley and ... - Page 181

Adam Gorightly - 2003 - 292 pages

Bucknell became so paranoid about this whole affair that for several years afterwards he lived under a series of assumed names. According to Kerry, both he and Bucknell suspected that "Oswald may already have been an Army Intelligence..

...At about the time all this happened, I began having vivid audio hallucinations, usually just before falling asleep." Later, Kerry came to believe that these audio hallucinations — encountered prior to REM sleep — were induced by way of a mind control device which had been surreptitiously implanted into the base of his neck by MK-ULTRA operatives. It was through these real or imagined implants that Kerry came to believe that mind control transmissions were beamed into his brain. as Kerry explained..."I am implying that dreams can be produced technologically, via low level microwaves and that, via UHF sound projections, thoughts can be planted."..

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=1&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22Henry+Rand+and+George+Bookbinder%2C+both+of+whom+had+been+with+the*%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Mind Control, World Control - Page 145

Jim Keith - 1998 - 228 pages - Preview

When Webster renounced his citizenship, he was accompanied by two Rand executives, Henry Rand and George Bookbinder, both of whom had been with the OSS. The Rand Corporation had been involved with American mind control research since at ...

http://pasttensevancouver.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/acid-al/

...Born a poor Kentucky hillbilly, Hubbard first found fame in Seattle in 1919 as the boy inventor of a coil contraption that, according to the Post-Intelligencer, generated electricity with no apparent power source.

Al Hubbard’s relationship with Vancouver probably began while working for millionaire George Reifel’s rum running operation in the 1920s. Hubbard operated a wireless shore-to-ship communications system out of a phony Seattle taxicab, allowing the rum fleet to stay one step ahead of the police and coast guard.

http://www.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22atmospheric+power+generator%22

Is This Boy A Super-inventor? .Seattle Lad Claims To Have Tapped The ...

Border Cities Star - Google News Archive - Nov 27, 1920

Seattle Lad Claims to Have Tapped the Earth's Hidden Energy SCRAP POWER PLANTS So Far He Has Driven a Boat With His Small atmospheric Power Generator ...

Related web pages

Electricity From Air Runs Motorboat .

Ellensburg Daily Record - Google News Archive - Jul 28, 1920

... here are puzzled by a demonstration trip madeby a boat said to have been propelled by what was described as anatmospheric power generator Alfred Hubbard ...

‎

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=f8MWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OiEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4661,5317911&dq=boy+alfred+hubbard+coil&hl=en

Milwaukee Journal - Sep 19, 1920

Launch driven by the mysterious coil and electric motor shown in center of boat Inset the boy inventor Alfred Hubbard.

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg31738.html

AL HUBBARD, THE ORIGINAL "CAPTAIN TRIPS"

by Todd Brendan Fahey

High Times, Nov. 1991

http://pasttensevancouver.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/acid-al/

Acid Al

September 4, 2010 by laniwurm

Al “Cappy” Hubbard was a mysterious fellow. His life was certainly fascinating, even extraordinary. Inventor, spy, adventurer, sea captain, pilot, doctor, snitch, and eccentric millionaire were all on his resume, but he is best known as the “Johnny Appleseed of LSD.”

Born a poor Kentucky hillbilly, Hubbard first found fame in Seattle in 1919 as the boy inventor of a coil contraption that, according to the Post-Intelligencer, generated electricity with no apparent power source.

Al Hubbard’s relationship with Vancouver probably began while working for millionaire George Reifel’s rum running operation in the 1920s. Hubbard operated a wireless shore-to-ship communications system out of a phony Seattle taxicab, allowing the rum fleet to stay one step ahead of the police and coast guard. He was eventually pinched for this and after an 18 month prison stint switched sides and began helping the US government stem the flow of illicit booze.

During WWII, Hubbard’s talents were utilized to secretly transport American ships and planes into Canada to aid the British war effort in the days before the US officially entered the fray.

Little is known about his work with the OSS during the war, but in a September 1980 article in Vancouver Magazine, Ben Metcalfe claimed that Al Hubbard had once shown him “photographs of himself accompanying the American-Canadian party into Port Radium to pick up the first shipment of uranium for the Manhattan Project.”

Strengthening the theory that Hubbard continued his spy career with the CIA after the war (which he emphatically denied), these endeavours seem to have been as sketchy as his espionage and criminal activities. For instance, the mailing address of the Uranium Corporation was 500 Alexander Street, a residential building originally built as a brothel and now a skidroad rooming house – hardly an address befitting an important sounding company or its millionaire director. In any case, Hubbard’s wealth enabled him to pursue his true passion: turning people on to LSD.

After his first acid trip in 1951, Hubbard was sold. He contacted Sandoz, the Swiss pharmaceutical company that discovered LSD, and became its main North American distributor. He soon became known as the “Johnny Appleseed of LSD” supervising literally thousands of acid trips and supplying others to do the same.

Hubbard became a doctor by purchasing a degree in biopsychology from a Tennessee diploma-mill. In 1957, he teamed up with Dr J Ross MacLean who had recently taken over Hollywood Hospital, a private mental health facility in New Westminster. Hubbard already had years of experience supervising acid trips under his belt, including those of Aldous Huxley, Vancouver Sun publisher Don Cromie, and Reverend JE Brown of the Cathedral of the Holy Rosary.

Thanks to Hubbard, Canada was already a top centre for LSD research. A 1953 meeting at the Vancouver Yacht Club with Dr Humphrey Osmond (the man who coined the term “psychedelic”) resulted in Saskatchewan becoming one of the top LSD research centres in the world. Osmond relocated from Britain to take advantage of the supportive environment for experimental medical research in Saskatchewan under the Tommy Douglas government. Hubbard contacted Osmond after hearing about his work in exploring the potential of mescaline to better understand schizophrenia.

Hollywood Hospital carved out its niche by using LSD to treat alcoholism. The initial hypothesis was that an acid trip would be akin to the delirium tremens that alcoholics suffered when hitting rock bottom. Researchers instead found that alcoholics benefited from LSD, not by inducing rock bottom, but because the experience heightened their awareness of themselves and gave them insight into the nature of their problems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Matthew_Hubbard

http://www.google.com/archivesearch?q=olmstead%27s+henchman%2C+%22al+hubbard%22+&btnG=Search+Archives&scoring=a

The Bellingham Herald

Bellingham Herald - Oct 20, 2003

Olmstead's henchman Al Hubbard moved the station to Aberdeen where feds closed it down after catching Hubbard working with rumrunners off of Grays Harbor ...

http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=4015

Olmstead, Roy (1886-1966) -- King of King County Bootleggers

...Roy Olmstead divorced his wife, Viola, and on August 5, 1924, married Elise Caroline Parché, also known as Campbell, a vivacious young English woman he met in Vancouver, Canada. Olmstead bought a beautiful mansion, which they dubbed the "snow-white palace," at 3757 Ridgeway Place in the exclusive Mount Baker residential neighborhood, overlooking Lake Washington and Mount Rainier.

The Olmsteads founded the American Radio Telephone Company, and had Alfred M. Hubbard, a young inventor and business partner, build a large radio transmitter and one of Seattle's first commercial broadcasting studios, Station KFQX (later KOMO), in a spare bedroom at the residence. Prohibition agents speculated Olmstead was using the station's broadcasts of children's bedtime stories to send coded messages to his rumrunning boats.

Enforcement of prohibition in the Pacific Northwest was virtually impossible. There was too much border, too much water, and too many islands and remote locations to patrol effectively -- a smuggler's paradise. Olmstead's success was common knowledge and could not be ignored. It was the job of Roy C. Lyle, Prohibition Bureau Administrator for Washington State, and William Whitney, his chief assistant and legal counsel, to bring down Olmstead's organization. Their plan was to prosecute Olmstead and his confederates for conspiracy to violate the federal prohibition laws.

Closing In On Olmstead

Lyle and Whitney's first break came in September 1924, when Al Hubbard, one of Olmstead's trusted lieutenants, decided to become an informant in exchange for a job as a prohibition agent. Hubbard was extremely knowledgeable about Olmstead's organization and the rumrunning/bootlegging business. Lyle jumped at the chance to have an undercover agent in-place next to Olmstead, with access to the intimate details of his future smuggling and bootlegging ventures.

The next break for Lyle and Whitney came in October 1924, when Canadian Customs Officials seized the Eva B, one of Olmstead's rumrunning launches, arresting three men and confiscating 784 cases of liquor. During their interrogation, the crewmembers implicated Roy Olmstead and his gang....

..At 2:00 AM on Thanksgiving morning, November 26, 1924, federal prohibition agents arrested nine men, including Roy Olmstead, Al Hubbard, and a King County deputy sheriff. Agents seized five automobiles; a King County Sheriff's squad car; rumrunning launch No. M222, known as the Three Deuces; and 240 cases of contraband liquor at the Woodmont dock in Des Moines. Interestingly, Al Hubbard had been arrested the previous week in Snohomish County near Camano Island in connection with another liquor smuggling incident. Lyle and Whitney were certainly getting their money's worth from Hubbard.

On January 19, 1925, the Federal Grand Jury returned a two-count indictment against Roy Olmstead and 89 other defendants for violation of the National Prohibition Act and conspiracy. This proved to be the biggest trial for liquor violations in the country's history under the Eighteenth Amendment. Trial proceedings began on January 19, 1926, with 47 defendants present. Forty-three defendants either absconded to Canada before trial or became cooperating witnesses. During the trial, guilty pleas and additional dismissals by the government brought the number of defendants on trial, down to 29. ...

....Roy Olmstead was in and out of McNeil Island a few times during the appeals of his conviction to higher courts. In the interim, Olmstead stood trial on his arrest at the Woodmont Dock. It was very short, beginning on November 16, 1927, and ending the following day with his acquittal. The jury didn't believe Al Hubbard's testimony and the government failed to prove that the shipment of contraband liquor belonged to Olmstead.

http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm

Seattle Post Intelligencer (February 26, 1928)

Hubbard Believes Mystery Motor Based On His Own Invention

Ex-Dry Agent says he worked out secret of utilizing radium power in 1919

by R.B.Bermann

Alfred M. Hubbard, the youthful stormy petrel of the Seattle branch of the federal prohibition office, may possibly be the discoverer of at least the basic principle behind the [Hendershot] "fuelless motor" which was demonstrated for the first time in Detroit last week, and which is attracting the attention of such aeronautical experts as Col. Charles A. Lindbergh and Maj. Thomas G. Lanphier.

This was claimed by Hubbard himself yesterday. While he said that he has been able to learn none of the details in connection with the Detroit demonstration, he declared that he was inclined to suspect very strongly that the motor was simply a development of the apparatus which e himself demonstrated in Seattle as early as 1919.

Driven By Radium

In 1919 Hubbard represented the apparatus as being capable of extracting electrical energy directly from the air, but he admitted yesterday that this had been merely a subterfuge to protect his patent rights, and that, as a matter of fact, it had been a device for extracting electrical energy from radium, by means of a series of transformers which stepped up the rays.

He declined to go into detail in regard to the exact manner in which he managed to extract power from radium -- but said that, so far as he had been able to determine, there was no great difference between the Detroit machine and his.

"I never heard of this Lester J. Hendershot, the Pittsburgh electrical engineer who is demonstrating the motor", Hubbard said, "but it must be remembered that I worked on the invention for two years in Pittsburgh -- in 1921 and 1922. It was a Dr. Greenslade who represented the people who were financing me at the time -- but, of course, if the people who bought out most of my interest in the invention were to bring it out as their own machinery, they would probably do it through a man with whom I had never worked. I was employed by the radium Chemical Company at the time I was working in Pitsburgh".

Sold Interest

While Hubbard declined to disclose the exact amount that he had received for his invention, he made it clear that he had sold out a 75% interest in what may prove to be the greatest scientific revelation of the ages for little more than a mess of potage.

"When I made my discovery", he said, "I was only 16 years old and, until that time, I’d never even had an ice cream soda. So you can imagine that a couple of thousand dollars looked mighty big to me. I never hesitated for an instant when the people who were financing me insisted on taking a [missing text] kept demanding more and more of my rights.

Just Quit Cold

"But, at last, along in 1922, I suddenly came to the realization that if I acceded to their latest demand I’d have only 20% interest left, so I just quit them cold".

Hubbard asserted that he has no intention of bringing any legal action against Hendershot or his associates for the present, at least.

"If he really is using my idea", Hubbard said, "and if it proves practical, it’s so big that 25% -- or 2% -- will bring in more money than I can ever possibly use. So I am not worried ... [missing text] when he went to work for the Pittsburgh people.

Hubbard went into retirement along with his motor for some time, but he made a dramatic return to Seattle and public attention a few years ago, when he was indicted for liquor conspiracy with Roy Olmstead, then acclaimed as the bootleg king of the Northwest. ...

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

That's pretty lame, Bill. You seem to come up with feeble reasons

to not exercise your own. I am sure I am not the only one who is

not impressed. Have you even read the book yet? That's my bet.

Can you really be as superficial and lacking in substance as this?

quote name='William Kelly' date='30 October 2010 - 04:19 AM' timestamp='1288405162' post='210378']

I asked an expert on psyops to read ME & LEE. Here is what he

has just written back, which seems to fit squarely within the

subject of this thread. I recommend that you read this book.

Jim, I just finished reading "Lee and Me" by Judyth Vary Baker

which you sent me. I have many thoughts about it, but here are

my initial reactions:

1---This book is a monumental achievement that intel never

thought could happen and worked hard to see that Judyth's

story would never see the light of day. Cutouts, phony

JFK reserchers has also been used to try and discredit

JVB's story as well as vicious smear campaigns.

No matter what the critics can say or have said before it was

published, this book cuts through their lies like a red hot knife

through a block of butter. The evidence provided in this book and

available from other sources support it fully. So if critics can't

handle that, then too bad. Just like when Oliver Stone's movie

JFK was announced to be in production, the intel cutouts and

sympathizers started their campaigns to discredit the movie and

the evidence.

2---JBV is a survivor of unbelievably intense levels of manipulation,

processing and harassment using sophisticated psyops which has

continued ever since her days in New Orleans. She has most

likely always had a case officer assigned to watch her movements

and supervise her management by psyops, mini-psyops and

mini-cointelpro type actions.

This book is a celebration of the victory of JVB's life over evil.

She has beaten the deck stacked against her and has now

triumphed. This book is her victory celebration and confetti

parade all in one and is a big kick in the face to intel and those

that abused and persecuted her for so many years. Anyone who

is well informed about how intel uses psyops and mindkontrol to

manipulate their victims, will realize that everything JVB has written

about it in this book and her other postings on the internet fits 100%

with the way intel typically does business and harasses witnesses.

3---JVB is truly a genius and was selected by intel early on for special use

by intel. She was set to become a great American physician and

medical researcher for cancer, and her career was stolen from her

by evil, self serving men who used the war against communism and

the cold war to justify their rampant evil acts which culminated in the

murder of JFK, and the murders of LHO, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen

and many other witnesses.

4---JVB's meeting with LHO was not a chance occurrence and like all her

events in New Orleans was planned and manipulated by intel.

5---JVB was a young, immature girl who was played according to her

emotion needs and processed very cruelly in order to be manipulated

and used by intel. One use was to keep LHO occupied and distracted

so that he would cooperate with "the plan", and he was used also to

keep JVB occupied and locked into the plan.

6---The book is disturbing, grotesque and alarming in what it reveals about

the fusion between intel, the military, the mob, academia, federal and

local govt, the courts, and intel. It reveals the vicious, murderous

underbelly of how the govt really operates and documents how the

actual transformation of our nation from a Republic to

fascist/stasi military run dictatorship occurred.

7---This excellent book shows how some of the most vicious and evil acts

were rationalized under the "fight against communism" and how every

rule of law was violated with no respect for human rights.

8---This book fills in many of the blanks that show beyond any reasonable

doubt that JVB has been telling the truth about her relationship with

LHO, and that LHO never did try and kill JFK, that he was set up as a

mindkontrolled patsy, processed by use of sophisticated psyops.

9---For the first time, the tradecraft of how intel agents are recruited,

processed, and manipulated is disclosed in step by step detail, which

itself is a major disclosure to the uninformed public who wants to

learn how this is done.

10---The book shows beyond any reasonable doubt the LHO was a

PROFESSIONAL INTEL OPERATIVE trained to use sex as a tool

to recruit and control (he did admit to JVB that he had sex with the

lady in Mexico for intel purposes). It shows how once one becomes

a professional intel operative, they can easily be reassigned (ie detailed)

to many other of the over 37 intel agencies of the US shadow govt,

many of which are now privatized (it has been estimated that approx.

80% of all US intel, psyops, and black ops have now been privatized).

LHO was recruited and trained by naval intel which owned him and

detailed him to his assignment in New Orleans which was probably

the FBI, although he likely worked with the CIA and Mob on a regular

basis too.

11--The book shows how sophisticated psyops was used to recruit and

manipulate Dr. Ochsner also and how he was pulled into the system

fighting communism. JVB's descriptions of INCA are important and

show how intel has infiltrated medicine, academia in the US and

foreign countries.

12--This excellent book shows how intel provides the rewards and

ego stroking needed to reinforcement commitment to their agenda

by the various players. All had to be promised a carrot on the end

of a stick which they could never quite each, consume or attain.

13--This excellent book shows that nothing has really changed since

the coup de etat surrounding JFK's murder brought in a whole

new form of govt (which is really the oldest form of govt, a military

dictatorship, only this time with hidden controllers buried in the

shadow govt). We now has a nazi/stasi fascist dictatorship that

is still in place with the same power groups pulling the strings and

all these groups are organized into what Ike called the "military

industrial complex", best referred to as the shadow govt (and

best described by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.).

After reading this excellent book it is easy to understand why intel

never wanted this information about their tradecraft exposed, and

never wanted the evidence that shows LHO was completely innocent

of the allegations he killed JFK to be available for all to examine.

Intel stopped "60 Minutes" and prevented the History channel from

re-broadcasting the "guilty men" segment as well as the segment

on JVB. This book explains why

Why would an anonymous Psy Ops Expert have to say the book is "excellent" more than once.

He almost convinces me that Oswald was indeed a Lone Nut Case, if JVB is our only source.

Thank God she isn't.

Bill Kelly

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

Giving it more thought, I think he wrote it that way so what he

had to say could be used as stand-alone quotes or blurbs. I

suppose I would be more impressed if you had ever written

or said anything remotely as important as what he says here.

Just to suggest how shallow you come across as being, in lieu

of a cheap and thoughtless remark of a kind for which you are

increasingly known, why don't you ask if what he is saying is

TRUE? I am not the only one to see it didn't cross your mind.

I asked an expert on psyops to read ME & LEE. Here is what he

has just written back, which seems to fit squarely within the

subject of this thread. I recommend that you read this book.

Jim, I just finished reading "Lee and Me" by Judyth Vary Baker

which you sent me. I have many thoughts about it, but here are

my initial reactions:

1---This book is a monumental achievement that intel never

thought could happen and worked hard to see that Judyth's

story would never see the light of day. Cutouts, phony

JFK reserchers has also been used to try and discredit

JVB's story as well as vicious smear campaigns.

No matter what the critics can say or have said before it was

published, this book cuts through their lies like a red hot knife

through a block of butter. The evidence provided in this book and

available from other sources support it fully. So if critics can't

handle that, then too bad. Just like when Oliver Stone's movie

JFK was announced to be in production, the intel cutouts and

sympathizers started their campaigns to discredit the movie and

the evidence.

2---JBV is a survivor of unbelievably intense levels of manipulation,

processing and harassment using sophisticated psyops which has

continued ever since her days in New Orleans. She has most

likely always had a case officer assigned to watch her movements

and supervise her management by psyops, mini-psyops and

mini-cointelpro type actions.

This book is a celebration of the victory of JVB's life over evil.

She has beaten the deck stacked against her and has now

triumphed. This book is her victory celebration and confetti

parade all in one and is a big kick in the face to intel and those

that abused and persecuted her for so many years. Anyone who

is well informed about how intel uses psyops and mindkontrol to

manipulate their victims, will realize that everything JVB has written

about it in this book and her other postings on the internet fits 100%

with the way intel typically does business and harasses witnesses.

3---JVB is truly a genius and was selected by intel early on for special use

by intel. She was set to become a great American physician and

medical researcher for cancer, and her career was stolen from her

by evil, self serving men who used the war against communism and

the cold war to justify their rampant evil acts which culminated in the

murder of JFK, and the murders of LHO, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen

and many other witnesses.

4---JVB's meeting with LHO was not a chance occurrence and like all her

events in New Orleans was planned and manipulated by intel.

5---JVB was a young, immature girl who was played according to her

emotion needs and processed very cruelly in order to be manipulated

and used by intel. One use was to keep LHO occupied and distracted

so that he would cooperate with "the plan", and he was used also to

keep JVB occupied and locked into the plan.

6---The book is disturbing, grotesque and alarming in what it reveals about

the fusion between intel, the military, the mob, academia, federal and

local govt, the courts, and intel. It reveals the vicious, murderous

underbelly of how the govt really operates and documents how the

actual transformation of our nation from a Republic to

fascist/stasi military run dictatorship occurred.

7---This excellent book shows how some of the most vicious and evil acts

were rationalized under the "fight against communism" and how every

rule of law was violated with no respect for human rights.

8---This book fills in many of the blanks that show beyond any reasonable

doubt that JVB has been telling the truth about her relationship with

LHO, and that LHO never did try and kill JFK, that he was set up as a

mindkontrolled patsy, processed by use of sophisticated psyops.

9---For the first time, the tradecraft of how intel agents are recruited,

processed, and manipulated is disclosed in step by step detail, which

itself is a major disclosure to the uninformed public who wants to

learn how this is done.

10---The book shows beyond any reasonable doubt the LHO was a

PROFESSIONAL INTEL OPERATIVE trained to use sex as a tool

to recruit and control (he did admit to JVB that he had sex with the

lady in Mexico for intel purposes). It shows how once one becomes

a professional intel operative, they can easily be reassigned (ie detailed)

to many other of the over 37 intel agencies of the US shadow govt,

many of which are now privatized (it has been estimated that approx.

80% of all US intel, psyops, and black ops have now been privatized).

LHO was recruited and trained by naval intel which owned him and

detailed him to his assignment in New Orleans which was probably

the FBI, although he likely worked with the CIA and Mob on a regular

basis too.

11--The book shows how sophisticated psyops was used to recruit and

manipulate Dr. Ochsner also and how he was pulled into the system

fighting communism. JVB's descriptions of INCA are important and

show how intel has infiltrated medicine, academia in the US and

foreign countries.

12--This excellent book shows how intel provides the rewards and

ego stroking needed to reinforcement commitment to their agenda

by the various players. All had to be promised a carrot on the end

of a stick which they could never quite each, consume or attain.

13--This excellent book shows that nothing has really changed since

the coup de etat surrounding JFK's murder brought in a whole

new form of govt (which is really the oldest form of govt, a military

dictatorship, only this time with hidden controllers buried in the

shadow govt). We now has a nazi/stasi fascist dictatorship that

is still in place with the same power groups pulling the strings and

all these groups are organized into what Ike called the "military

industrial complex", best referred to as the shadow govt (and

best described by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.).

After reading this excellent book it is easy to understand why intel

never wanted this information about their tradecraft exposed, and

never wanted the evidence that shows LHO was completely innocent

of the allegations he killed JFK to be available for all to examine.

Intel stopped "60 Minutes" and prevented the History channel from

re-broadcasting the "guilty men" segment as well as the segment

on JVB. This book explains why.

Why would an anonymous Psy Ops Expert have to say the book is "excellent" more than once.

He almost convinces me that Oswald was indeed a Lone Nut Case, if JVB is our only source.

Thank God she isn't.

Bill Kelly

[William Kelly]

So your annonymous PsyOps Expert is going to expose his true identity in endorsing JVB's excellent book for a cover jacket blub?

And I look forward to reading her book, and won't comment on it again until I do, except to say that I am impressed with all the graphics and photos and little tidbits that her editors and publisher have used in support of her story, which on the whole, is pretty good as love stories go.

The only better one is Kathleen Sullivan, Sylvia Odio's friend and competition for the affections of Father McChann, the priest assigned to take care of the spiritual needs of the Cuban refugees, which has been described as the "Harlequin Romance" version of the assassination. But JVB comes in as a close second. These stories almost inspire me to finish an article I started a few years ago on The Babes of Dealey Plaza, if I could only get Playboy or Penthouse to publish it.

As for JVB's new book, as Linda Miner suggests, I will read it hold it to the same standard I apply to others, and that is to see how much new information there is that can not only be independely confimed, but leads to new records, documents, evidence and witnesses. Posner even had a few, the significance of which he didn't even recognize himself.

And what your Psy Ops Expert says certainly is true, at least about favorably comparing JVB with Dr. Richard Boylan, the legally suspended doctor who promotes UFOs and the idea we are being visited by more than a dozen races of extra-terrestials from other worlds, including the Grays.

http://www.v-j-enter...m/boylintv.html

He talks about how this book will expose the "tradecraft" the "intel" used. Well that keeps this on subject, and I can't wait to read it now.

And I know your PsyOpsExpert is right about "Intel" sending fake researchers to disrupt the real research and inquries going on.

BK

Giving it more thought, I think he wrote it that way so what he

had to say could be used as stand-alone quotes or blurbs. I

suppose I would be more impressed if you had ever written

or said anything remotely as important as what he says here.

Just to suggest how shallow you come across as being, in lieu

of a cheap and thoughtless remark of a kind for which you are

increasingly known, why don't you ask if what he is saying is

TRUE? I am not the only one to see it didn't cross your mind.

I asked an expert on psyops to read ME & LEE. Here is what he

has just written back, which seems to fit squarely within the

subject of this thread. I recommend that you read this book.

Jim, I just finished reading "Lee and Me" by Judyth Vary Baker

which you sent me. I have many thoughts about it, but here are

my initial reactions:

1---This book is a monumental achievement that intel never

thought could happen and worked hard to see that Judyth's

story would never see the light of day. Cutouts, phony

JFK reserchers has also been used to try and discredit

JVB's story as well as vicious smear campaigns.

No matter what the critics can say or have said before it was

published, this book cuts through their lies like a red hot knife

through a block of butter. The evidence provided in this book and

available from other sources support it fully. So if critics can't

handle that, then too bad. Just like when Oliver Stone's movie

JFK was announced to be in production, the intel cutouts and

sympathizers started their campaigns to discredit the movie and

the evidence.

2---JBV is a survivor of unbelievably intense levels of manipulation,

processing and harassment using sophisticated psyops which has

continued ever since her days in New Orleans. She has most

likely always had a case officer assigned to watch her movements

and supervise her management by psyops, mini-psyops and

mini-cointelpro type actions.

This book is a celebration of the victory of JVB's life over evil.

She has beaten the deck stacked against her and has now

triumphed. This book is her victory celebration and confetti

parade all in one and is a big kick in the face to intel and those

that abused and persecuted her for so many years. Anyone who

is well informed about how intel uses psyops and mindkontrol to

manipulate their victims, will realize that everything JVB has written

about it in this book and her other postings on the internet fits 100%

with the way intel typically does business and harasses witnesses.

3---JVB is truly a genius and was selected by intel early on for special use

by intel. She was set to become a great American physician and

medical researcher for cancer, and her career was stolen from her

by evil, self serving men who used the war against communism and

the cold war to justify their rampant evil acts which culminated in the

murder of JFK, and the murders of LHO, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen

and many other witnesses.

4---JVB's meeting with LHO was not a chance occurrence and like all her

events in New Orleans was planned and manipulated by intel.

5---JVB was a young, immature girl who was played according to her

emotion needs and processed very cruelly in order to be manipulated

and used by intel. One use was to keep LHO occupied and distracted

so that he would cooperate with "the plan", and he was used also to

keep JVB occupied and locked into the plan.

6---The book is disturbing, grotesque and alarming in what it reveals about

the fusion between intel, the military, the mob, academia, federal and

local govt, the courts, and intel. It reveals the vicious, murderous

underbelly of how the govt really operates and documents how the

actual transformation of our nation from a Republic to

fascist/stasi military run dictatorship occurred.

7---This excellent book shows how some of the most vicious and evil acts

were rationalized under the "fight against communism" and how every

rule of law was violated with no respect for human rights.

8---This book fills in many of the blanks that show beyond any reasonable

doubt that JVB has been telling the truth about her relationship with

LHO, and that LHO never did try and kill JFK, that he was set up as a

mindkontrolled patsy, processed by use of sophisticated psyops.

9---For the first time, the tradecraft of how intel agents are recruited,

processed, and manipulated is disclosed in step by step detail, which

itself is a major disclosure to the uninformed public who wants to

learn how this is done.

10---The book shows beyond any reasonable doubt the LHO was a

PROFESSIONAL INTEL OPERATIVE trained to use sex as a tool

to recruit and control (he did admit to JVB that he had sex with the

lady in Mexico for intel purposes). It shows how once one becomes

a professional intel operative, they can easily be reassigned (ie detailed)

to many other of the over 37 intel agencies of the US shadow govt,

many of which are now privatized (it has been estimated that approx.

80% of all US intel, psyops, and black ops have now been privatized).

LHO was recruited and trained by naval intel which owned him and

detailed him to his assignment in New Orleans which was probably

the FBI, although he likely worked with the CIA and Mob on a regular

basis too.

11--The book shows how sophisticated psyops was used to recruit and

manipulate Dr. Ochsner also and how he was pulled into the system

fighting communism. JVB's descriptions of INCA are important and

show how intel has infiltrated medicine, academia in the US and

foreign countries.

12--This excellent book shows how intel provides the rewards and

ego stroking needed to reinforcement commitment to their agenda

by the various players. All had to be promised a carrot on the end

of a stick which they could never quite each, consume or attain.

13--This excellent book shows that nothing has really changed since

the coup de etat surrounding JFK's murder brought in a whole

new form of govt (which is really the oldest form of govt, a military

dictatorship, only this time with hidden controllers buried in the

shadow govt). We now has a nazi/stasi fascist dictatorship that

is still in place with the same power groups pulling the strings and

all these groups are organized into what Ike called the "military

industrial complex", best referred to as the shadow govt (and

best described by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.).

After reading this excellent book it is easy to understand why intel

never wanted this information about their tradecraft exposed, and

never wanted the evidence that shows LHO was completely innocent

of the allegations he killed JFK to be available for all to examine.

Intel stopped "60 Minutes" and prevented the History channel from

re-broadcasting the "guilty men" segment as well as the segment

on JVB. This book explains why.

Why would an anonymous Psy Ops Expert have to say the book is "excellent" more than once.

He almost convinces me that Oswald was indeed a Lone Nut Case, if JVB is our only source.

Thank God she isn't.

Bill Kelly

Edited October 30, 2010 by William Kelly

[John Dolva]

My PsyOpsExpert just suggested Hustler might run with it.

[William Kelly]

Yea, Tom, Al Hubberd is a really interesting guy, but how does he fit in again?

Meyer Lansky, who was also involved in bootlegging, also invested in Canadian mineral and uranium mine stocks.

And the procedure for busting Olmstead's conspiracy went by the books - bust a little guy in the line and get him to squeal on the others, take it to a Grand Jury, get indictments, and nail them at the trial.

Apparently the grand jury believed the squealers and the jury didn't.

I'd like to know more about Henry Rand and George Bookbinder.

BK

Okay Bill, Greg.... I am wondering why then life story of Al Hubbard has not been turned into a starring role vehicle for

Leonardo DeCaprio? There had to be an investment made in keeping this guy below the radar for the last 35 years.

http://books.google....udio%22&f=false

The Prankster and the Conspiracy: The Story of Kerry Thornley and ... - Page 181

Adam Gorightly - 2003 - 292 pages

Bucknell became so paranoid about this whole affair that for several years afterwards he lived under a series of assumed names. According to Kerry, both he and Bucknell suspected that "Oswald may already have been an Army Intelligence..

...At about the time all this happened, I began having vivid audio hallucinations, usually just before falling asleep." Later, Kerry came to believe that these audio hallucinations — encountered prior to REM sleep — were induced by way of a mind control device which had been surreptitiously implanted into the base of his neck by MK-ULTRA operatives. It was through these real or imagined implants that Kerry came to believe that mind control transmissions were beamed into his brain. as Kerry explained..."I am implying that dreams can be produced technologically, via low level microwaves and that, via UHF sound projections, thoughts can be planted."..

http://www.google.co...l=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Mind Control, World Control - Page 145

Jim Keith - 1998 - 228 pages - Preview

When Webster renounced his citizenship, he was accompanied by two Rand executives, Henry Rand and George Bookbinder, both of whom had been with the OSS. The Rand Corporation had been involved with American mind control research since at ...

http://pasttensevanc.../09/04/acid-al/

...Born a poor Kentucky hillbilly, Hubbard first found fame in Seattle in 1919 as the boy inventor of a coil contraption that, according to the Post-Intelligencer, generated electricity with no apparent power source.

Al Hubbard's relationship with Vancouver probably began while working for millionaire George Reifel's rum running operation in the 1920s. Hubbard operated a wireless shore-to-ship communications system out of a phony Seattle taxicab, allowing the rum fleet to stay one step ahead of the police and coast guard.

http://www.google.co...er+generator%22

Is This Boy A Super-inventor? .Seattle Lad Claims To Have Tapped The ...

Border Cities Star - Google News Archive - Nov 27, 1920

Seattle Lad Claims to Have Tapped the Earth's Hidden Energy SCRAP POWER PLANTS So Far He Has Driven a Boat With His Small atmospheric Power Generator ...

Related web pages

Electricity From Air Runs Motorboat .

Ellensburg Daily Record - Google News Archive - Jul 28, 1920

... here are puzzled by a demonstration trip madeby a boat said to have been propelled by what was described as anatmospheric power generator Alfred Hubbard ...

‎

http://news.google.c...bard+coil&hl=en

Milwaukee Journal - Sep 19, 1920

Launch driven by the mysterious coil and electric motor shown in center of boat Inset the boy inventor Alfred Hubbard.

http://www.mail-arch...m/msg31738.html

AL HUBBARD, THE ORIGINAL "CAPTAIN TRIPS"

by Todd Brendan Fahey

High Times, Nov. 1991

http://pasttensevanc.../09/04/acid-al/

Acid Al

September 4, 2010 by laniwurm

Al "Cappy" Hubbard was a mysterious fellow. His life was certainly fascinating, even extraordinary. Inventor, spy, adventurer, sea captain, pilot, doctor, snitch, and eccentric millionaire were all on his resume, but he is best known as the "Johnny Appleseed of LSD."

Born a poor Kentucky hillbilly, Hubbard first found fame in Seattle in 1919 as the boy inventor of a coil contraption that, according to the Post-Intelligencer, generated electricity with no apparent power source.

Al Hubbard's relationship with Vancouver probably began while working for millionaire George Reifel's rum running operation in the 1920s. Hubbard operated a wireless shore-to-ship communications system out of a phony Seattle taxicab, allowing the rum fleet to stay one step ahead of the police and coast guard. He was eventually pinched for this and after an 18 month prison stint switched sides and began helping the US government stem the flow of illicit booze.

During WWII, Hubbard's talents were utilized to secretly transport American ships and planes into Canada to aid the British war effort in the days before the US officially entered the fray.

Little is known about his work with the OSS during the war, but in a September 1980 article in Vancouver Magazine, Ben Metcalfe claimed that Al Hubbard had once shown him "photographs of himself accompanying the American-Canadian party into Port Radium to pick up the first shipment of uranium for the Manhattan Project."

Strengthening the theory that Hubbard continued his spy career with the CIA after the war (which he emphatically denied), these endeavours seem to have been as sketchy as his espionage and criminal activities. For instance, the mailing address of the Uranium Corporation was 500 Alexander Street, a residential building originally built as a brothel and now a skidroad rooming house – hardly an address befitting an important sounding company or its millionaire director. In any case, Hubbard's wealth enabled him to pursue his true passion: turning people on to LSD.

After his first acid trip in 1951, Hubbard was sold. He contacted Sandoz, the Swiss pharmaceutical company that discovered LSD, and became its main North American distributor. He soon became known as the "Johnny Appleseed of LSD" supervising literally thousands of acid trips and supplying others to do the same.

Hubbard became a doctor by purchasing a degree in biopsychology from a Tennessee diploma-mill. In 1957, he teamed up with Dr J Ross MacLean who had recently taken over Hollywood Hospital, a private mental health facility in New Westminster. Hubbard already had years of experience supervising acid trips under his belt, including those of Aldous Huxley, Vancouver Sun publisher Don Cromie, and Reverend JE Brown of the Cathedral of the Holy Rosary.

Thanks to Hubbard, Canada was already a top centre for LSD research. A 1953 meeting at the Vancouver Yacht Club with Dr Humphrey Osmond (the man who coined the term "psychedelic") resulted in Saskatchewan becoming one of the top LSD research centres in the world. Osmond relocated from Britain to take advantage of the supportive environment for experimental medical research in Saskatchewan under the Tommy Douglas government. Hubbard contacted Osmond after hearing about his work in exploring the potential of mescaline to better understand schizophrenia.

Hollywood Hospital carved out its niche by using LSD to treat alcoholism. The initial hypothesis was that an acid trip would be akin to the delirium tremens that alcoholics suffered when hitting rock bottom. Researchers instead found that alcoholics benefited from LSD, not by inducing rock bottom, but because the experience heightened their awareness of themselves and gave them insight into the nature of their problems.

http://en.wikipedia....Matthew_Hubbard

http://www.google.co...hives&scoring=a

The Bellingham Herald

Bellingham Herald - Oct 20, 2003

Olmstead's henchman Al Hubbard moved the station to Aberdeen where feds closed it down after catching Hubbard working with rumrunners off of Grays Harbor ...

http://www.historyli...fm&file_id=4015

Olmstead, Roy (1886-1966) -- King of King County Bootleggers

...Roy Olmstead divorced his wife, Viola, and on August 5, 1924, married Elise Caroline Parché, also known as Campbell, a vivacious young English woman he met in Vancouver, Canada. Olmstead bought a beautiful mansion, which they dubbed the "snow-white palace," at 3757 Ridgeway Place in the exclusive Mount Baker residential neighborhood, overlooking Lake Washington and Mount Rainier.

The Olmsteads founded the American Radio Telephone Company, and had Alfred M. Hubbard, a young inventor and business partner, build a large radio transmitter and one of Seattle's first commercial broadcasting studios, Station KFQX (later KOMO), in a spare bedroom at the residence. Prohibition agents speculated Olmstead was using the station's broadcasts of children's bedtime stories to send coded messages to his rumrunning boats.

Enforcement of prohibition in the Pacific Northwest was virtually impossible. There was too much border, too much water, and too many islands and remote locations to patrol effectively -- a smuggler's paradise. Olmstead's success was common knowledge and could not be ignored. It was the job of Roy C. Lyle, Prohibition Bureau Administrator for Washington State, and William Whitney, his chief assistant and legal counsel, to bring down Olmstead's organization. Their plan was to prosecute Olmstead and his confederates for conspiracy to violate the federal prohibition laws.

Closing In On Olmstead

Lyle and Whitney's first break came in September 1924, when Al Hubbard, one of Olmstead's trusted lieutenants, decided to become an informant in exchange for a job as a prohibition agent. Hubbard was extremely knowledgeable about Olmstead's organization and the rumrunning/bootlegging business. Lyle jumped at the chance to have an undercover agent in-place next to Olmstead, with access to the intimate details of his future smuggling and bootlegging ventures.

The next break for Lyle and Whitney came in October 1924, when Canadian Customs Officials seized the Eva B, one of Olmstead's rumrunning launches, arresting three men and confiscating 784 cases of liquor. During their interrogation, the crewmembers implicated Roy Olmstead and his gang....

..At 2:00 AM on Thanksgiving morning, November 26, 1924, federal prohibition agents arrested nine men, including Roy Olmstead, Al Hubbard, and a King County deputy sheriff. Agents seized five automobiles; a King County Sheriff's squad car; rumrunning launch No. M222, known as the Three Deuces; and 240 cases of contraband liquor at the Woodmont dock in Des Moines. Interestingly, Al Hubbard had been arrested the previous week in Snohomish County near Camano Island in connection with another liquor smuggling incident. Lyle and Whitney were certainly getting their money's worth from Hubbard.

On January 19, 1925, the Federal Grand Jury returned a two-count indictment against Roy Olmstead and 89 other defendants for violation of the National Prohibition Act and conspiracy. This proved to be the biggest trial for liquor violations in the country's history under the Eighteenth Amendment. Trial proceedings began on January 19, 1926, with 47 defendants present. Forty-three defendants either absconded to Canada before trial or became cooperating witnesses. During the trial, guilty pleas and additional dismissals by the government brought the number of defendants on trial, down to 29. ...

....Roy Olmstead was in and out of McNeil Island a few times during the appeals of his conviction to higher courts. In the interim, Olmstead stood trial on his arrest at the Woodmont Dock. It was very short, beginning on November 16, 1927, and ending the following day with his acquittal. The jury didn't believe Al Hubbard's testimony and the government failed to prove that the shipment of contraband liquor belonged to Olmstead.

http://www.rexresear...ard/hubbard.htm

Seattle Post Intelligencer (February 26, 1928)

Hubbard Believes Mystery Motor Based On His Own Invention

Ex-Dry Agent says he worked out secret of utilizing radium power in 1919

by R.B.Bermann

Alfred M. Hubbard, the youthful stormy petrel of the Seattle branch of the federal prohibition office, may possibly be the discoverer of at least the basic principle behind the [Hendershot] "fuelless motor" which was demonstrated for the first time in Detroit last week, and which is attracting the attention of such aeronautical experts as Col. Charles A. Lindbergh and Maj. Thomas G. Lanphier.

This was claimed by Hubbard himself yesterday. While he said that he has been able to learn none of the details in connection with the Detroit demonstration, he declared that he was inclined to suspect very strongly that the motor was simply a development of the apparatus which e himself demonstrated in Seattle as early as 1919.

Driven By Radium

In 1919 Hubbard represented the apparatus as being capable of extracting electrical energy directly from the air, but he admitted yesterday that this had been merely a subterfuge to protect his patent rights, and that, as a matter of fact, it had been a device for extracting electrical energy from radium, by means of a series of transformers which stepped up the rays.

He declined to go into detail in regard to the exact manner in which he managed to extract power from radium -- but said that, so far as he had been able to determine, there was no great difference between the Detroit machine and his.

"I never heard of this Lester J. Hendershot, the Pittsburgh electrical engineer who is demonstrating the motor", Hubbard said, "but it must be remembered that I worked on the invention for two years in Pittsburgh -- in 1921 and 1922. It was a Dr. Greenslade who represented the people who were financing me at the time -- but, of course, if the people who bought out most of my interest in the invention were to bring it out as their own machinery, they would probably do it through a man with whom I had never worked. I was employed by the radium Chemical Company at the time I was working in Pitsburgh".

Sold Interest

While Hubbard declined to disclose the exact amount that he had received for his invention, he made it clear that he had sold out a 75% interest in what may prove to be the greatest scientific revelation of the ages for little more than a mess of potage.

"When I made my discovery", he said, "I was only 16 years old and, until that time, I'd never even had an ice cream soda. So you can imagine that a couple of thousand dollars looked mighty big to me. I never hesitated for an instant when the people who were financing me insisted on taking a [missing text] kept demanding more and more of my rights.

Just Quit Cold

"But, at last, along in 1922, I suddenly came to the realization that if I acceded to their latest demand I'd have only 20% interest left, so I just quit them cold".

Hubbard asserted that he has no intention of bringing any legal action against Hendershot or his associates for the present, at least.

"If he really is using my idea", Hubbard said, "and if it proves practical, it's so big that 25% -- or 2% -- will bring in more money than I can ever possibly use. So I am not worried ... [missing text] when he went to work for the Pittsburgh people.

Hubbard went into retirement along with his motor for some time, but he made a dramatic return to Seattle and public attention a few years ago, when he was indicted for liquor conspiracy with Roy Olmstead, then acclaimed as the bootleg king of the Northwest. ...

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

Good, Bill. Read first, comment after. Then we can discuss it. And, just for the record, I don't think that you are a complete buffoon.

So your annonymous PsyOps Expert is going to expose his true identity in endorsing JVB's excellent book for a cover jacket blub?

And I look forward to reading her book, and won't comment on it again until I do, except to say that I am impressed with all the graphics and photos and little tidbits that her editors and publisher have used in support of her story, which on the whole, is pretty good as love stories go.

The only better one is Kathleen Sullivan, Sylvia Odio's friend and competition for the affections of Father McChann, the priest assigned to take care of the spiritual needs of the Cuban refugees, which has been described as the "Harlequin Romance" version of the assassination. But JVB comes in as a close second. These stories almost inspire me to finish an article I started a few years ago on The Babes of Dealey Plaza, if I could only get Playboy or Penthouse to publish it.

As for JVB's new book, as Linda Miner suggests, I will read it hold it to the same standard I apply to others, and that is to see how much new information there is that can not only be independely confimed, but leads to new records, documents, evidence and witnesses. Posner even had a few, the significance of which he didn't even recognize himself.

And what your Psy Ops Expert says certainly is true, at least about favorably comparing JVB with Dr. Richard Boylan, the legally suspended doctor who promotes UFOs and the idea we are being visited by more than a dozen races of extra-terrestials from other worlds, including the Grays.

http://www.v-j-enter...m/boylintv.html

He talks about how this book will expose the "tradecraft" the "intel" used. Well that keeps this on subject, and I can't wait to read it now.

And I know your PsyOpsExpert is right about "Intel" sending fake researchers to disrupt the real research and inquries going on.

BK

Giving it more thought, I think he wrote it that way so what he

had to say could be used as stand-alone quotes or blurbs. I

suppose I would be more impressed if you had ever written

or said anything remotely as important as what he says here.

Just to suggest how shallow you come across as being, in lieu

of a cheap and thoughtless remark of a kind for which you are

increasingly known, why don't you ask if what he is saying is

TRUE? I am not the only one to see it didn't cross your mind.

I asked an expert on psyops to read ME & LEE. Here is what he

has just written back, which seems to fit squarely within the

subject of this thread. I recommend that you read this book.

Jim, I just finished reading "Lee and Me" by Judyth Vary Baker

which you sent me. I have many thoughts about it, but here are

my initial reactions:

1---This book is a monumental achievement that intel never

thought could happen and worked hard to see that Judyth's

story would never see the light of day. Cutouts, phony

JFK reserchers has also been used to try and discredit

JVB's story as well as vicious smear campaigns.

No matter what the critics can say or have said before it was

published, this book cuts through their lies like a red hot knife

through a block of butter. The evidence provided in this book and

available from other sources support it fully. So if critics can't

handle that, then too bad. Just like when Oliver Stone's movie

JFK was announced to be in production, the intel cutouts and

sympathizers started their campaigns to discredit the movie and

the evidence.

2---JBV is a survivor of unbelievably intense levels of manipulation,

processing and harassment using sophisticated psyops which has

continued ever since her days in New Orleans. She has most

likely always had a case officer assigned to watch her movements

and supervise her management by psyops, mini-psyops and

mini-cointelpro type actions.

This book is a celebration of the victory of JVB's life over evil.

She has beaten the deck stacked against her and has now

triumphed. This book is her victory celebration and confetti

parade all in one and is a big kick in the face to intel and those

that abused and persecuted her for so many years. Anyone who

is well informed about how intel uses psyops and mindkontrol to

manipulate their victims, will realize that everything JVB has written

about it in this book and her other postings on the internet fits 100%

with the way intel typically does business and harasses witnesses.

3---JVB is truly a genius and was selected by intel early on for special use

by intel. She was set to become a great American physician and

medical researcher for cancer, and her career was stolen from her

by evil, self serving men who used the war against communism and

the cold war to justify their rampant evil acts which culminated in the

murder of JFK, and the murders of LHO, Jack Ruby, Dorothy Kilgallen

and many other witnesses.

4---JVB's meeting with LHO was not a chance occurrence and like all her

events in New Orleans was planned and manipulated by intel.

5---JVB was a young, immature girl who was played according to her

emotion needs and processed very cruelly in order to be manipulated

and used by intel. One use was to keep LHO occupied and distracted

so that he would cooperate with "the plan", and he was used also to

keep JVB occupied and locked into the plan.

6---The book is disturbing, grotesque and alarming in what it reveals about

the fusion between intel, the military, the mob, academia, federal and

local govt, the courts, and intel. It reveals the vicious, murderous

underbelly of how the govt really operates and documents how the

actual transformation of our nation from a Republic to

fascist/stasi military run dictatorship occurred.

7---This excellent book shows how some of the most vicious and evil acts

were rationalized under the "fight against communism" and how every

rule of law was violated with no respect for human rights.

8---This book fills in many of the blanks that show beyond any reasonable

doubt that JVB has been telling the truth about her relationship with

LHO, and that LHO never did try and kill JFK, that he was set up as a

mindkontrolled patsy, processed by use of sophisticated psyops.

9---For the first time, the tradecraft of how intel agents are recruited,

processed, and manipulated is disclosed in step by step detail, which

itself is a major disclosure to the uninformed public who wants to

learn how this is done.

10---The book shows beyond any reasonable doubt the LHO was a

PROFESSIONAL INTEL OPERATIVE trained to use sex as a tool

to recruit and control (he did admit to JVB that he had sex with the

lady in Mexico for intel purposes). It shows how once one becomes

a professional intel operative, they can easily be reassigned (ie detailed)

to many other of the over 37 intel agencies of the US shadow govt,

many of which are now privatized (it has been estimated that approx.

80% of all US intel, psyops, and black ops have now been privatized).

LHO was recruited and trained by naval intel which owned him and

detailed him to his assignment in New Orleans which was probably

the FBI, although he likely worked with the CIA and Mob on a regular

basis too.

11--The book shows how sophisticated psyops was used to recruit and

manipulate Dr. Ochsner also and how he was pulled into the system

fighting communism. JVB's descriptions of INCA are important and

show how intel has infiltrated medicine, academia in the US and

foreign countries.

12--This excellent book shows how intel provides the rewards and

ego stroking needed to reinforcement commitment to their agenda

by the various players. All had to be promised a carrot on the end

of a stick which they could never quite each, consume or attain.

13--This excellent book shows that nothing has really changed since

the coup de etat surrounding JFK's murder brought in a whole

new form of govt (which is really the oldest form of govt, a military

dictatorship, only this time with hidden controllers buried in the

shadow govt). We now has a nazi/stasi fascist dictatorship that

is still in place with the same power groups pulling the strings and

all these groups are organized into what Ike called the "military

industrial complex", best referred to as the shadow govt (and

best described by Richard Boylan, Ph.D.).

After reading this excellent book it is easy to understand why intel

never wanted this information about their tradecraft exposed, and

never wanted the evidence that shows LHO was completely innocent

of the allegations he killed JFK to be available for all to examine.

Intel stopped "60 Minutes" and prevented the History channel from

re-broadcasting the "guilty men" segment as well as the segment

on JVB. This book explains why.

Why would an anonymous Psy Ops Expert have to say the book is "excellent" more than once.

He almost convinces me that Oswald was indeed a Lone Nut Case, if JVB is our only source.

Thank God she isn't.

Bill Kelly

Edited October 30, 2010 by James H. Fetzer

[William Kelly]

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