Robin Unger Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) Edited: Over the weekend i downloaded Costella's Zip file containing the 486-Frames I then spent most of the weekend adjusting the over color saturation on each individual frame. I then spent the last two days " UPLOADING " all 486 - frames to my image galleries. http://www.jfkassass...ls.php?album=92 Sample of color adjusted frames. Edited February 9, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Who is "Costello" -- perhaps Abbott's partner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Who is "Costello" -- perhaps Abbott's partner? Whos on first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Who is "Costello" -- perhaps Abbott's partner? Post edited Monk. I was going a little cross eyed, after laboriously adjusting the color of 486 -frames 1-frame at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I can see you worked extremely hard to put this together. I just thought the typo was kinda funny...so did John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Thanks, Robin, for all your hard work! Kathy Thanks Kathy. Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Scally Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Robin: Great work, as always. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Robin: Great work, as always. Chris. Thanks Chris. Robin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Edited: Over the weekend i downloaded Costella's Zip file containing the 486-Frames I then spent most of the weekend adjusting the over color saturation on each individual frame. I then spent the last two days " UPLOADING " all 486 - frames to my image galleries. http://www.jfkassass...ls.php?album=92 Sample of color adjusted frames. Nice work, Robin. But why do you say Costella OVERSATURATED the color? I worked for many years with KODACHROME film. Kodachrome was known for intense color saturation (bright reds and yellows especially, with blues and greens truer to natural. What you have done looks good and MELLOW in color...but how do you know that your "corrections" match the characteristics of Kodachrome? Nice work, anyway...but I think you should get Costella's explanation for what you call OVER SATURATION. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 quote: What you have done looks good and MELLOW in color...but how do you know that your "corrections" match the characteristics of Kodachrome? Hi Jack I never attemptedt to match exact Kodachrome film. I much prefered Costella's original early frames.( the ones with the blue border ) to my eyes they had a very nice coloring . I don't know why he changed that version, and replaced it with the new frames, perhaps you could ask him for me. No other version of the z-frames have that color saturated look, MPI frames and the 6th floor museum Zapruder frames closer match the frames i posted, than the new costella frames I'm sure that in the early days Costella must have thought the same way as i do, his earlier blue border frames, were much more pleasing to my eye. Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 quote: What you have done looks good and MELLOW in color...but how do you know that your "corrections" match the characteristics of Kodachrome? Hi Jack I never attemptedt to match exact Kodachrome film. I much prefered Costella's original early frames.( the ones with the blue border ) to my eyes they had a very nice coloring . I don't know why he changed that version, and replaced it with the new frames, perhaps you could ask him for me. No other version of the z-frames have that color saturated look, MPI frames and the 6th floor museum Zapruder frames closer match the frames i posted, than the new costella frames I'm sure that in the early days Costella must have thought the same way as i do, his earlier blue border frames, were much more pleasing to my eye. Robin. Thanks, Robin. I am not "putting down" your work at all, and the coloration is not extremely important. And we have NO way of knowing whether the color should be mellow or bright. I do remember discussions with John where he said he thought the colors of the MPI version did not match what he knew of Kodachrome. I will be glad to give you an email address for John if you want to consult with him. He likely would be interested in your MELLOW version of his frames. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) quote: What you have done looks good and MELLOW in color...but how do you know that your "corrections" match the characteristics of Kodachrome? Hi Jack I never attemptedt to match exact Kodachrome film. I much prefered Costella's original early frames.( the ones with the blue border ) to my eyes they had a very nice coloring . I don't know why he changed that version, and replaced it with the new frames, perhaps you could ask him for me. No other version of the z-frames have that color saturated look, MPI frames and the 6th floor museum Zapruder frames closer match the frames i posted, than the new costella frames I'm sure that in the early days Costella must have thought the same way as i do, his earlier blue border frames, were much more pleasing to my eye. Robin. Thanks, Robin. I am not "putting down" your work at all, and the coloration is not extremely important. And we have NO way of knowing whether the color should be mellow or bright. I do remember discussions with John where he said he thought the colors of the MPI version did not match what he knew of Kodachrome. I will be glad to give you an email address for John if you want to consult with him. He likely would be interested in your MELLOW version of his frames. Jack I already sent the link to John yesterday. He was curious as to why you (Robin) "shifted the color back to MPI?" Edited February 9, 2011 by Greg Burnham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 quote: What you have done looks good and MELLOW in color...but how do you know that your "corrections" match the characteristics of Kodachrome? Hi Jack I never attemptedt to match exact Kodachrome film. I much prefered Costella's original early frames.( the ones with the blue border ) to my eyes they had a very nice coloring . I don't know why he changed that version, and replaced it with the new frames, perhaps you could ask him for me. No other version of the z-frames have that color saturated look, MPI frames and the 6th floor museum Zapruder frames closer match the frames i posted, than the new costella frames I'm sure that in the early days Costella must have thought the same way as i do, his earlier blue border frames, were much more pleasing to my eye. Robin. Thanks, Robin. I am not "putting down" your work at all, and the coloration is not extremely important. And we have NO way of knowing whether the color should be mellow or bright. I do remember discussions with John where he said he thought the colors of the MPI version did not match what he knew of Kodachrome. I will be glad to give you an email address for John if you want to consult with him. He likely would be interested in your MELLOW version of his frames. Jack I already sent the link to John yesterday. He was curious as to why you (Robin) "shifted the color back to MPI?" Hi Greg. In the end it comes down to the fact that i just find the MPI style of Zapruder Frames more pleasing to look at. I guess it's just a personal preference thing. Jack prefers the new Costalla frames. That's OK I WOULD be interested to know why John changed the coloring from the "blue border version" of the frames to the current style Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Hi Robin, I just got this from John: "In the original set (2002) I had masked out the edges and ghost panel shapes. That blue was my standard mask colour. But then I realised that by doing so I was preventing people from seeing the edges of the frames and the edges of the sprocket holes. So for the 2006 re-analysis I just left the rectangular ghost panels there. The registration was also much improved in the 2006 set. Washing out the colour prevents people from noticing that there's no blood in the film except for those few painted-in blob frames around 313. Couldn't imagine why anyone would want to revert to that. Cheers J" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the information. I realize that John has put a lot of work into his frames and may feel slightly offended that i changed the appearance. Frames z-310 to z-317 stabilized on kennedy and Jackie ( color comparison between the frames ) Two GIFs 1.3MB each Edited February 10, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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