David Von Pein Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) ...today the crime is now solvable in a genuine way. It's "solvable" from DiEugenio's conspiratorial point-of-view, even though Jimmy has no idea who the assassins really are. You've got a great case there for sure, Jim. A "solvable" case with nobody to arrest. Lovely. ---------- "The dreadful illogic and superficiality of the conspiracy theorists' modus operandi has inevitably resulted in the following situation: Though they have dedicated their existence to trying to poke holes in the Warren Commission's findings, they have failed abysmally to tell us (if the Warren Commission was wrong) what actually did happen. In other words, other than blithely tossing out names, they have failed to offer any credible evidence of who, if not Oswald, killed Kennedy. Nor have they offered any credible evidence at all of who the conspirators behind the assassination were. So after more than forty years, if we were to rely on these silly people, we'd have an assassination without an assassin (since, they assure us, Oswald didn't kill Kennedy), and a conspiracy without conspirators. Not a simple achievement." -- Vincent Bugliosi Edited February 8, 2013 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) imo, the evidence in JFK's murder points to a clear person of interest -- Mitchell WerBell III. If the FBI had been on the up and up WerBell would have been visited 11/23/63 to inquire as to high tech weaponry. FBI agents would have swarmed over Fort Detrick that afternoon ...or so I reasonably speculate... "The specific subject today concerns the CIA's involvement in the development of bacteriological warfare materials with the Army's Biological Laboratory at Fort Detrick, CIA's retention of an amount of shellfish toxin, and CIA's use and investigation of various chemicals and drugs." --William Colby before the Church Committee 9/16/1975 The evidence of the JFK cover-up points directly to McGeorge Bundy, W. Averell Harriman, and Jock Whitney as leaders in the "rush to judgement" to point at Oswald as a lone nut. The possibility of those men being indicted for anything was nil. Those guys were untouchable. Edited February 8, 2013 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Jim DiEugenio, In light of what's happening to this thread (i.e., being mired in the swamp), I think Jim has pointed a way out of the swamp -- a discussion of a Grand Jury. Does anybody have anything on Felix Rodriguez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Since Weaver shows that the shirt was flat on JFK's back, Simply amazing, now cliffy claims the ability to see under JFK's jacket...IN A PHOTOGRAPH...to ascertain the condition of a shirt. My oh my cliffy, you have really been reduced to a shadow of your former self. Oh wait, I take that back. This is exactly what you are, as proven by your complete untruth about the slack in a dress shirt. Cilff Varnell, "overseller of the decade". Is there any lower level you can seek to try and defend your silly claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Jim DiEugenio vs. David Von Pein Assassination Porn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Cliff... Kinda like DAVEY DOES DALLAS: The man swallows the WCR whole. - a must see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Don't ya just love watching an Anybody-But-Oswald conspiracy clown like DiEugenio get all worked up about a person (that'd be me) whom he thinks isn't worth even one second of his ultra-valuable time? What a pathetic (albeit hilarious) sight to behold. Edited February 8, 2013 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) ...you indefatigable, peripatetic modern day Harold Weisberg. Anyone who thinks it's a compliment to be compared to that God among Gods, Harold Weisberg, should listen to this hilarious audio clip featuring Weisberg from the 1980s: JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/Harold Weisberg After hearing such outrageous silliness from the lips of Mr. Weisberg himself, it's no wonder DiEugenio puts Harold up on a mile-high pedestal. After all, Jimbo (like Weisberg) thinks Oswald never fired a shot, and also thinks it's quite possible that NO SHOTS AT ALL were fired from the Depository's sixth floor: "I'm not even sure they [the real killers of JFK, not Lee Harvey Oswald, naturally] were on the sixth floor. I mean, they might have been. But what's the definitive evidence that the hit team was on the sixth floor? .... If they WERE on the sixth floor, they could have been at the other [west] end." -- James DiEugenio; February 11, 2010 Tell me again, Jimmy, why anyone in this world should take anything you say seriously after reading the mind-numbing hogwash that exists in that quote printed above? Edited February 9, 2013 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Cliff... Kinda like DAVEY DOES DALLAS: The man swallows the WCR whole. - a must see. It wouldn't be right to let this go without pointing out that Craig Lamson and I used to produce Assassination Porn -- arguing back and forth with no apparent redeeming social value. But since I put the Lowe and Weaver photos together even David Von Pein stipulates to the basic facts. Edited February 9, 2013 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Cliff... Kinda like DAVEY DOES DALLAS: The man swallows the WCR whole. - a must see. It wouldn't be right to let this go without pointing out that Craig Lamson and I used to produce Assassination Porn -- arguing back and forth with no apparent redeeming social value. Oh there was LOTS of redeeming social value. It showed how woefully incompetent cliff varnell really is, and that he had it all wrong...all along. Not to mention seeing him reduced to a complete "overseller"... and that itself is worth the price of admission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Lamson vs Varnell: Assassination anesthesia. LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Lamson vs Varnell: Assassination anesthesia. I'm not engaging Craig Lamson, but for a few tweaks of his nose. All he spews are insults, non sequiturs and bald faced whoppers. Jim, you act as if Craig has a legitimate argument. Care to repeat his argument in your own words? You, on the other hand, continue to engage David Von Pein even after you say it's crazy to do so. I got David to concede the basic facts of the clothing evidence in two brief, fairly agreeable discussions. It would appear that the T3 back wound/clothing evidence is the most efficient case for conspiracy. Jim, you'll never get Von Pein to concede anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Morrow Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 "It would appear that the T3 back wound/clothing evidence is the most efficient case for conspiracy." Add to that the Zapruder Film with it's back head and it is all you need to know. Those two things together are also a prima facie proof of a coup d'etat. Proof of multiple shooters of John Kennedy and the government making Rube Goldberg attempts to say it is one shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 "It would appear that the T3 back wound/clothing evidence is the most efficient case for conspiracy." Add to that the Zapruder Film with it's back head and it is all you need to know. Those two things together are also a prima facie proof of a coup d'etat. Proof of multiple shooters of John Kennedy and the government making Rube Goldberg attempts to say it is one shooter. No one is going to post a fact-based counter-argument to the above, Robert. No one. Not Craig Lamson. Not David Von Pein. And not Jim DiEugenio (who should know better but mysteriously doesn't.) In fact, Jim DiEugenio expresses outright hostility to the prima facie case for conspiracy -- T3 back wound/clothing evidence. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Jim DiEugenio vs. Cliff Varnell A debate of the question: "What is the most efficient case for conspiracy in the murder of JFK?" Not much of a debate now, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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