Cliff Varnell Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) What's the most efficient user-friendly proof of conspiracy in the murder of JFK? The bullet holes in his clothes -- 4" below the bottoms of the collars -- are too low to have been associated with the throat wound. What does this proof tell us specifically about how JFK was murdered? The shot in the back did not exit. The shot in the throat did not exit. There were no bullets recovered from those wounds during the autopsy. The Million Dollar Question is: What happened to the bullets that caused the throat and back wounds? Edited January 17, 2015 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Addendum Re: Walker.... There is also Marina Oswald's never-wavering account concerning the murder attempt against General Walker -----> 1978 HSCA AUDIO EXCERPT WITH MARINA OSWALD PORTER PORTER ??? PORTER ??? @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17063 +++++++++++++++++++++ Mather's employer, Collins Radio, had a tenuous connection to LeeHarvey Oswald. Oswald, in the company of his friend, George De Mohrenschildt, once visited the home of retired Admiral Henry Bruton, an executive of Collins Radio. The HSCA printed this information in an appendix to their Final Report; it is contained in De Mohrenschildt's unpublished manuscript, I Am a Patsy! Bruton and his position with Collins are also mentioned in Edward Jay Epstein's Oswald biography, Legend. Bruton had been a lawyer in Virginia before becoming a Naval Intelligence officer. Bruton's specialty was electronic surveillance, and this expertise is what he was bringing to Collins Radio. "In March 1963, Collins Radio was awarded a two-million-dollar-plus contract from the CIA-connected United States Information Agency (USIA) to build nine short-wave transmitters to be used in Southeast Asia. Two weeks later, however, the work had to be postponed when President Kennedy requested a cut in USIA funds. By October, it appears, the contract had turned into a scandal. Assistant Secretary of Defense BeLieu was charged with giving false data to the House Human Resources subcommittee on a 'sole source' contract awarded to Collins. Despite his denials, subcommittee members urged that BeLieu be dismissed if he did not give a satisfactory explanation. One week later, however, this heated debate would be eclipsed by a bigger scandal involving Collins Radio and the CIA. It also involved a ship with sophisticated electronic -- installed while Ken BeLieu was Assistant Navy Secretary for Installations and Logistics under Navy Secretary John Connally" (Richard Bartholomew, *Possible Discovery of an Automobile Used in the Kennedy Assassination,* available on-line; see below for URL). In April 1963, The Wall Street Journal announced that Collins Radio would construct a modern radio communications system linking Laos, Thailand and South Vietnam. On November 1, 1963, the New York Times reported that Fidel Castro had captured a 174-foot ship called the Rex that was based in the Port of Palm Beach, flew a Nicaraguan flag, and was being leased to Collins Radio by a Dallas oilman named J. A. Belcher. The next day, one of the captured Cuban exiles aboard the Rex confessed that the boat had been used to ferry arms into Cuba, and that "the CIA organized all arms shipments" (New York Times, November 3, 1963). "Montero Carranzera said he had 'once landed twelve infiltrators on the North Coast of Matazzas Province from a yacht which had a crew of American CIA agents.' The US government did not deny Castro's charges. The Rex mission was not the first time Collins had provided cover for CIA operations. Two weeks after Kennedy's death, the Rex and another mystery ship called Leda again left their Florida ports" (Richard Bartholomew, Ibid.). According to Bill Kelly (*Back Channels,* Summer 1962), the Rex was the flagship of the JM/WAVE fleet, the CIA's anti-Castro super station in Miami. According to Kelly, Castro announced that the arms shipments were meant for an assassination attempt on top Cuban leaders not an unlikely possibility. What a striking coincidence: five blocks from Oswald's arrest we have an Oswald double in a car with plates traced to a close personal friend of J. D. Tippit, who had just been murdered by an Oswald double less than an hour before and the friend also happens to work for a CIA-affiliated company that plays a role in the highly sensitive plots against Castro and Cuba and one of the company's directors had met at his home with CIA asset George De Mohrenschildt and alleged CIA asset Lee Harvey Oswald in April 1963. Another striking coincidence: Within a year of the assassination, Collins Radio employee Kenneth Porter quit his job, left his wife and children, and immediately following his divorce, announced his engagement to Marina Oswald, now Marina Oswald Porter (Ibid.). Bartholomew's manuscript is available on-line in *Fair Play* #17: Click Here"> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) 9. Is it possible in your view that someone other than Oswald prepared the note? Not a chance. "Commission Exhibit No. 1 was written by Lee Harvey Oswald." -- James C. Cadigan (FBI); 1964 Warren Commission Testimony [7 H 437] Your other questions, Jon, are irrelevant given the above determination made by handwriting expert James Cadigan and also when factoring in this additional impossible-to-sidestep fact revealed to the world by Mrs. Marina Oswald.... "When he [Lee Oswald] came back I asked him what had happened. He was very pale. I don't remember the exact time, but it was very late. And he told me not to ask him any questions. He only told me that he had shot at General Walker." -- Marina Oswald; 1964 Warren Commission Testimony [1 H 16] Why fight the obvious, Jon? Oswald wrote that note to Marina just before he went out to kill Walker. How can you possibly believe anything else? Edited January 17, 2015 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 David, Did James Cadigan write or speak Russian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Cliff, Can one be sure no bullets or fragments of bullets attributable to the back wound or the throat wound were recovered at the autopsy? Didn't some SS or FBI agent sign a receipt for a "missile", sign the receipt in the autopsy room? If so, could not the missile in question have been attributable to one or the other of the wounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Greg Burnham, I agree. Who benefited? Here's my immediate list: 1) LBJ 2) those who wanted Israel to get nuclear weapons 3) those who disfavored the Arab nationalism represented by Nasser of Egypt 4) those who favored imposition of U.S. power across the globe 5) those who favored civil rights in the U.S. (bearing in mind LBJ was able to get civil rights legislation through congress that JFK for whatever reason could not and did not) Am I suggesting all parties indicated by this list conspired to kill JFK? No. Do I suggest the top planner(s) for the hit may be found on this list? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Didn't some SS or FBI agent sign a receipt for a "missile"...? jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-james-sibert.html jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/interview-with-francis-oneill.html Edited January 17, 2015 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Cliff, Can one be sure no bullets or fragments of bullets attributable to the back wound or the throat wound were recovered at the autopsy? Didn't some SS or FBI agent sign a receipt for a "missile", sign the receipt in the autopsy room? If so, could not the missile in question have been attributable to one or the other of the wounds? Jon, I believe it was a fragment from the head wound. The throat wound wasn't examined and the back wound was found to be shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Thanks, DVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Did James Cadigan write or speak Russian? Irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schwartz Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 #'2 and # 5 in your list are wrong and reveal more about you than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 David, When used as a verb, "irrelevant" is transitive. It takes a direct object. Irrelevant to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just think about it for a minute, Jon. It'll come to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Chuck Schwartz, Please speak your mind. I don't understand your comment because there is a line drawn through it, suggesting to me it is deleted. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 David, I will not be drawn in this thread to discussing in details the Walker note, I asked you questions in the hope of furthering my understanding of the note. In a separate diary I'll post what I know about the note, Before I do so, I had hoped to have the benefit of your knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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