How many potential witnesses dropped dead before testifying to the HSCA in the 1970s, especially witnesses from the FBI and CIA? From an actuarial perspective, can these deaths, if accurately described, possibly be normal?

[Joe Bauer]

Dave, E.Howard Hunt was voice recording his JFK tale by reading from a written script.

Debunkers of the Hunt tape propose that Hunt's son St. John crafted that script either totally or to a great degree.

It's hard for me to accept that premise without some doubt.

Just the wording of the script seems more like Hunt himself ( he had a well documented literary style in his multiple spy novel portfolio )  than his son although I am assuming such because I have never read anything written by St. John Hunt.

But the specific naming of LBJ and Meyer and Hunt's cohort team as the main conspirators in the JFK event is so intriguingly thought provoking imo.

Why implicate these specific political figures in the most treasonous criminal act in America's history?

If Hunt's story was ever officially accepted, LBJ's name would be forever known in annals as the most despicable criminal President in American history.

And his later generations would have to bear the awful reputation burden that family name would conjure up for a long, long time.

Remember "his name is Mudd?'

Side story:

There is a mountainous tract of land right on the Coast here, on the Southern border of the City of Carmel and at the ocean/Carmel Bay front facing beginning of Carmel Valley that for many years was titled "The Mudd Ranch."

I believe the owner was a direct descendant of Dr. Samuel Mudd who treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg and was imprisoned himself as a co-conspirator in Lincoln's assassination but who was pardoned by President Andrew Johnson and released from prison in 1869.

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Joe Bauer

[David Andrews]

Why implicate these specific political figures in the most treasonous criminal act in America's history?

Because his son needed money.

Because they were all dead, and they were all hot on the internet that year.

Who would know Cord Meyer in 2007, if not for the internet, and perhaps Ed Forum itself?

Why doesn't the mysterious French assassin have a name?  Because the internet hadn't decided on one.

 

[Joe Bauer]

10 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

Why implicate these specific political figures in the most treasonous criminal act in America's history?

Because his son needed money.

Because they were all dead, and they were all hot on the internet that year.

Who would know Cord Meyer in 2007, if not for the internet, and perhaps Ed Forum itself?

Why doesn't the mysterious French assassin have a name?  Because the internet hadn't decided on one.

 

Fair enough.

[David Andrews]

A more fulsome edit of the tape than on the Morley site:

I would like to hear the entire tape, to study just what kind of introduction he gives to Morales and Harvey, among the rest.  There's a hint that Hunt's talking about conspirators because they've become familiar characters in JFKA research, and not strangers from the intelligence community of 44 years ago that he has to give background on.

They certainly don't seem like strangers to St. John at his first glance.  From the Rolling Stone article, emphasis added:

'That time in Miami, with Saint by his bed and disease eating away at him and him thinking he’s six months away from death, E. Howard finally put pen to paper and started writing. Saint had been working toward this moment for a long while, and now it was going to happen. He got his father an A&W diet root beer, then sat down in the old man’s wheelchair and waited.

'E. Howard scribbled the initials “LBJ,” standing for Kennedy’s ambitious vice president, Lyndon Johnson. Under “LBJ,” connected by a line, he wrote the name Cord Meyer. Meyer was a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK; later she was murdered, a case that’s never been solved. Next his father connected to Meyer’s name the name Bill Harvey, another CIA agent; also connected to Meyer’s name was the name David Morales, yet another CIA man and a well-known, particularly vicious black-op specialist. And then his father connected to Morales’ name, with a line, the framed words “French Gunman Grassy Knoll.”

'So there it was, according to E. Howard Hunt. LBJ had Kennedy killed. It had long been speculated upon. But now E. Howard was saying that’s the way it was. And that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn’t the only shooter in Dallas. There was also, on the grassy knoll, a French gunman, presumably the Corsican Mafia assassin Lucien Sarti, who has figured prominently in other assassination theories.

'“By the time he handed me the paper, I was in a state of shock,” Saint says. “His whole life, to me and everybody else, he’d always professed to not know anything about any of it. But I knew this had to be the truth. If my dad was going to make anything up, he would have made something up about the Mafia, or Castro, or Khrushchev. He didn’t like Johnson. But you don’t falsely implicate your own country, for Christ’s sake. My father is old-school, a dyed-in-the-wool patriot, and that’s the last thing he would do.”'

Even the reporter (amid calling Hunt "E. Howard" throughout, like that was Hunt's around-the-house name) seems to be helping the story along by presuming Lucian Sarti is the French gunman.  "Sarti - He's Hot, He's Sexy, and He's Dead!" as RS once headlined Jim Morrison.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/the-last-confession-of-e-howard-hunt-76611/

The article also presumes that "Oswald wasn’t the only shooter in Dallas."  Hunt states that David Atlee Phillips "[met] with Oswald in Mexico City."  So we're down to only two (semi-)identified shooters, one of them Oswald.  No Cubans in sight.

The RS article broke Saint's version of the confession.  Is there a version in St. John's own words?

Edited September 5, 2019 by David Andrews

[Joe Bauer]

E. Howard Hunt says on the recorded tape, "I had a reputation for honesty"  ???

The Sarti thing in my mind is a purposeful sidetracking  distraction.  

We just want to know if the people Hunt mentions in his end of life confession actually organized this plan.

Cord Meyers estranged JFK mistress wife dies by gunshot on a morning hike?  Ben Bradlee and his wife Tony are in competition against James Angleton to get to Mary Meyers studio within hours of her death to find "her diary?"

Nothing unusual about her death and this dairy hunt by Bradlee and Angleton?  No connection of the two events? Please.

Hunt isn't the only one to characterize  LBJ's obsession to be president as so extreme, Hunt describes it as a "maniacal urge."

There is video ( on You Tube if you want to access it ) of Richard Nixon suggestion cryptically and with a suspicion indicating smile that "Johnson never liked being number 2"  heh heh.

Nixon in an interview by Part Buchanan of Crossfire in 1982 is recorded off camera as mentioning a Caro book on LBJ were Nixon says "xxxx, it makes him ( LBJ) appear to be a G#d D#amn Animal!" And a second later Nixon laughingly adds to Buchanan, "which he was."

Ha, ha, ha.

LBJ was capable of something as dastardly as organizing a coup against JFK...imo.

 

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Joe Bauer

[Jim Hargrove]

In a thread about Marita Lorenz, Douglas Caddy posted the following:

From the lengthy Village Voice article beginning half way down the first column:

 “Late on Monday evening, Paul Meskill introduced Marita [Lorenz] to a couple of detectives from police intelligence, James Rothstein and Matthew Rosenthal. The four of them had some drinks at a bar on 43rd Street. Since May, Rothstein and Rosenthal had been assigned to the New York Senate Select Committee on Crime, which was conducting a massive investigation in to pornography. Marita was supposed to give the detectives information concerning child prostitution; she also told them that Frank Sturgis had threatened to kill her. They accompanied her back to 88th street and arrested Frank Sturgis when he turned up at her apartment around 11 o’clock.”

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1299&dat=19771121&id=_ABOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=94sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6366,3812556

I think, but of course can't prove, that Sturgis was probably involved in any number of these suspicious deaths.