It Never Stops: Castro killed Kennedy

[James DiEugenio]

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/destitute-cuban-studies-institute-on-the-jfk-assassination

Pedro Roig is the latest entrant in this piece of mythology.

Just recall, Castro made two speeches within five days explaining in detail why the assassination had to be the work of a domestic plot with Oswald used as some kind of decoy.

He even hinted that one of the aims of the plot was to blame Cuba for the killing of Kennedy.

[W. Niederhut]

33 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/destitute-cuban-studies-institute-on-the-jfk-assassination

Pedro Roig is the latest entrant in this piece of mythology.

Just recall, Castro made two speeches within five days explaining in detail why the assassination had to be the work of a domestic plot with Oswald used as some kind of decoy.

He even hinted that one of the aims of the plot was to blame Cuba for the killing of Kennedy.

 

     Had to laugh when I read your comment about Roig being a "fugitive from history."   Good one...   🤣

     I do recall reading the text of Castro's remarkable speech shortly after 11/22/63, in which he managed to solve the Oswald decoy mystery in one swell foop.

[Joe Bauer]

If our highest legislative government, military and intelligence officials really believed Castro was behind JFK in Dallas on 11,22, 1963, does anyone really think they would have not done more to punish him than simple economic sanctions we initiated on Cuba even before then?

Castro's killing of JFK would have been considered an "act of war" to the highest degree.

Outside of a straight on major military retaliatory strike against Castro for taking out our President, the least our leaders would or should have done was to punish him, his regime and his country with economic, political and even Psy Op strangleholds so massive and severe in every way as to create a living hell on that Island.

Well beyond the ones we had already imposed and that helped make life in Cuba difficult and materially poor ( but not so crushing as to foment constant rebellious society unrest) for decades.

However, on a hugely increased, pounding and deserved act of war retaliatory level we did not.  

Despite his country's material poverty, relatively speaking, Castro and his regime hold flourished after JFK and for most of the rest of his life.

The absence of highest war crime punitive action against Castro tells me that either our powers to be gave Castro a pass for doing JFK, or they really didn't think he did it.

One would expect super aggressive Curtis LeMay and other Joint Chief generals pounding tables in personal grief and anger about Castro eliminating their beloved Commander In Chief and shouting "CASTRO WILL PAY" for this dastardly, cowardly ultimate act of war against our nation.

But we know they didn't react like this.

Same with LBJ, Hoover, super patriots William Harvey, Frank Sturgis, David Morales, David Phillips, E.Howard Hunt, William F. Buckley Jr., our oil barons Hunts, Murchisons, General Edwin Walker and the far right JBS and Minutemen ( and even our Mafia heads who loved to say they really were patriotic to our nation - look at what they did for their country during WW II) and every other JFK/RFK hater.

It's a sick thought ... but for the most rabid JFK haters you have to wonder whether they thought Castro did them a favor? 

No, if Castro really did JFK, our vast government, military and intelligence power structure would have known this fact... and been "forced" to do more against Castro than they ever did ... IMO.

Edited January 10, 2020 by Joe Bauer

[James DiEugenio]

Two comments on this.

First, as everyone should know here, when Hardway and Fonzi confronted David Phillips with a color coded chart of all of his assets who supplied BS stories linking the JFK case to Cuba, Phillips lit up another cigarette, even though he had two going.

Second, I have never been able to figure out what LBJ was thinking when he used that atomic end of the world scenario to get Russell and Warren to  join the Commission.  Because Hoover had told him that the tape did not match Oswald's voice and the photo did not either.

It is interesting to note the two different reactions to the nuclear holocaust warning.  Warren was so intimidated he did not even want to do any inquiry at all.  Russell was not.  He actually did his own inquiry and came to a conclusion contrary to what the Commission did.  He thought the whole thing was so rigged, he stopped going to meetings and wrote a letter of resignation.

The Cuba ploy served as a really neat diversion for its adherents.

[Joe Bauer]

4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Two comments on this.

First, as everyone should know here, when Hardway and Fonzi confronted David Phillips with a color coded chart of all of his assets who supplied BS stories linking the JFK case to Cuba, Phillips lit up another cigarette, even though he had two going.

Second, I have never been able to figure out what LBJ was thinking when he used that atomic end of the world scenario to get Russell and Warren to  join the Commission.  Because Hoover had told him that the tape did not match Oswald's voice and the photo did not either.

It is interesting to note the two different reactions to the nuclear holocaust warning.  Warren was so intimidated he did not even want to do any inquiry at all.  Russell was not.  He actually did his own inquiry and came to a conclusion contrary to what the Commission did.  He thought the whole thing was so rigged, he stopped going to meetings and wrote a letter of resignation.

The Cuba ploy served as a really neat diversion for its adherents.

Exactly.

[W. Niederhut]

4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Two comments on this.

First, as everyone should know here, when Hardway and Fonzi confronted David Phillips with a color coded chart of all of his assets who supplied BS stories linking the JFK case to Cuba, Phillips lit up another cigarette, even though he had two going.

Second, I have never been able to figure out what LBJ was thinking when he used that atomic end of the world scenario to get Russell and Warren to  join the Commission.  Because Hoover had told him that the tape did not match Oswald's voice and the photo did not either.

It is interesting to note the two different reactions to the nuclear holocaust warning.  Warren was so intimidated he did not even want to do any inquiry at all.  Russell was not.  He actually did his own inquiry and came to a conclusion contrary to what the Commission did.  He thought the whole thing was so rigged, he stopped going to meetings and wrote a letter of resignation.

The Cuba ploy served as a really neat diversion for its adherents.

Jim,

      One possible explanation is that LBJ was in the loop on the CIA/Joint Chiefs' JFK assassination plot, and needed to convince people like Earl Warren to participate in a sham investigation-- presumably to prevent a nuclear holocaust.

     How else do we explain LBJ lying to Earl Warren about the Oswald data?

[James DiEugenio]

I really don't know why.

Except to add that Hoover understood this also, namely that CIA had lied to him about LHO  in Mexico City.  And he went along with it in public too. 

This would tend to align with the whole Peter Scott scenario: namely that the actual perpetrators wanted an invasion of Cuba, but Hoover and LBJ did not.  Recall, LBJ had Carter call the DPD and tell them not to say Oswald was a part of a commie plot.  And recall, LBJ also did not buy the Single Bullet Fantasy.  And by 1967, he believed that the CIA was part of the plot.

Hoover understood this much more early, by late summer of 1964.  Since he had a much better grasp on what Ochoa and Echeverria had done down in Mexico.