Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

[Bill Brown]

Housekeeper Earlene Roberts, to a radio reporter on the afternoon of the assassination, stated that Oswald was wearing a "short gray coat" as he left the rooming house.  She told the FBI that she remembered Oswald putting on a jacket and zipping it up as he went out the front door, adding that it was the type of jacket that zips up in the front.

Helen Markham, standing at the northwest corner of Tenth and Patton, testified to the Warren Commission that the cop-killer (who she positively identified as Lee Oswald) had on a short jacket that was open in the front and was grayish-tan in color.

Domingo Benavides, passing by in his pickup truck, saw Tippit's patrol car stopped near the curb and stated that the officer (Tippit) was talking to a man on foot.  Benavides heard the shots and saw the killer run from the scene.  Benavides testified to the Warren Commission that the killer was wearing a light-beige jacket, and that the jacket was lightweight.

William Scoggins, sitting in his cab (facing north on Patton towards the intersection with Tenth Street), was eating lunch when he noticed Tippit's patrol car travel from west to east on Tenth Street, crossing through the intersection with Patton.  Scoggins saw the patrol car come to a stop and noticed the officer having a conversation with a man who was walking on the sidewalk.  Scoggins heard the shots, looked up and saw the man running towards his cab.  Scoggins got out of his cab and hid beside it as the cop-killer passed.  He (Scoggins) testified that the man (who he positively identified as Lee Oswald) was wearing a jacket.

Barbara Davis was inside her house on Tenth Street (400 East Tenth St.) at the corner of Patton Avenue when she heard the gun shots.  She went to her front door and noticed a man (who she positively identified as Lee Oswald) cutting across her front yard, heading towards Patton with a gun in his hands.  She testified to the Warren Commission that the cop-killer had on a dark coat as he cut across her yard.

Virginia Davis was inside the same house on Tenth Street as was her sister-in-law, Barbara, when she heard the shots.  Virginia went to the door and saw a man cutting across the yard with a gun in his hands.  Virginia testified to the Warren Commission that the man (who she positively identified as Lee Oswald) had on a light-brown-tan jacket.

Ted Callaway was on the front porch of his office near the alley between Tenth and Jefferson when he heard the shots come from the vicinity of Tenth Street.  He saw a man (who he positively identified as Lee Oswald) cutting across the yard of the house on the corner (Barbara and Virginia Davis) and noticed William Scoggins ducking beside the cab as the man passed, running down Patton from Tenth, holding a gun in his hands.  Callaway stated that the man had on a light tannish-gray windbreaker jacket.  Callaway testified to the Warren Commission that CE-162 (the jacket found on the ground under a car at the Texaco lot) looked like the jacket that the man was wearing as he was running from the scene.

Sam Guinyard was on Patton Ave. when he heard the shots.  Like the others, Guinyard saw the man (who he positively identified as Lee Oswald) cut across the yard of the Davis house on the corner of Tenth and Patton.  Guinyard testified that the man was running down Patton with a gun in his hands.  Guinyard testified to the Warren Commission that Oswald was wearing sort of a light-gray-looking jacket as he ran from the scene.

Warren Reynolds was inside the office at Reynolds Motor Company, located on the corner of Patton and Jefferson.  Reynolds saw a man running down Patton with a gun in his hands and turn the corner onto Jefferson.   Reynolds stated that he followed the man, who he believed in his own mind was Lee Oswald, and saw him go behind the Texaco Station on Jefferson.

A light colored jacket (CE-162) was found on the ground under a car in the parking lot behind the Texaco station.

Johnny Brewer was working in his shoe shop on Jefferson Boulevard.  He noticed a man duck into the recessed area of the storefront, looking nervous and appearing to avoid the police cars that were racing up and down Jefferson with sirens blaring.  Brewer stated that the man, who he identified as Lee Oswald, was NOT wearing a jacket.

Why did Lee Oswald ditch his jacket?

[Sean Coleman]

…….because it wasn’t him was it? I reckon he was busy watching Cry of Battle/War is Hell….

[Bill Brown]

38 minutes ago, Sean Coleman said:

…….because it wasn’t him was it? I reckon he was busy watching Cry of Battle/War is Hell….

According to Helen Markham, Barbara Davis, Virginia Davis, William Scoggins, Sam Guinyard, Ted Callaway, Pat Patterson, Warren Reynolds, Harold Russell and Mary Brock... Oswald was most definitely NOT inside the Texas Theater watching movies.

[Paul Cummings]

32 minutes ago, Bill Brown said:

According to Helen Markham, Barbara Davis, Virginia Davis, William Scoggins, Sam Guinyard, Ted Callaway, Pat Patterson, Warren Reynolds, Harold Russell and Mary Brock... Oswald was most definitely NOT inside the Texas Theater watching movies.

The problem is you started with Helen Markham and I lost all interest.

[David Von Pein]

58 minutes ago, Paul Cummings said:

The problem is you started with Helen Markham and I lost all interest.

And I guess you also have no interest in the other nine witnesses that Bill mentioned....i.e., witnesses who place Oswald out on the street in Oak Cliff and not inside the Texas Theater between 1:15 and 1:20 PM CST on Nov. 22nd.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JD-Tippit

Edited July 8, 2022 by David Von Pein

[Paul Cummings]

Just now, David Von Pein said:

And I guess you also have no interest in the other nine witnesses that Bill mentioned....who are witnesses who place Oswald out on the street in Oak Cliff and not inside the Texas Theater between 1:15 and 1:20 PM CST on Nov. 22nd.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JD-Tippit

Yes it fits your narrative doesn't it.

[David Von Pein]

1 minute ago, Paul Cummings said:

Yes it fits your narrative doesn't it.

Explain please...

[Paul Cummings]

Just now, David Von Pein said:

Explain please...

You've got Oswald killing Tippit.  No matter the credibility or accuracy of the witnesses you need this event to fit your narrative. That's as far as I'll go with you on this subject. 

[David Von Pein]

13 minutes ago, Paul Cummings said:

You've got Oswald killing Tippit.  No matter the credibility or accuracy of the witnesses you need this event to fit your narrative.

The funny part about that is: I don't even need a single witness to know beyond all doubt that Oswald murdered Tippit. And you know why that is so, don't you Paul?

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by David Von Pein

[Ron Bulman]

Read this Dave and get back to me.  You do know there were two Oswald's In the Texas Theater, right?

Into the Nightmare: My Search for the Killers of President John F. Kennedy and Officer J. D. Tippit: McBride, Joseph: 9781939795250: Amazon.com: Books 

[David Von Pein]

13 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

You do know there were two Oswalds in the Texas Theater, right?

And you do know that that is a totally unconfirmed theory, right?

Moreover, it's a really silly theory too. And for a very obvious reason. Because why would anybody who was setting up LHO want to risk having TWO different "Oswalds" being seen at the very same location at the very same time? Were the plotters TRYING to expose their patsy plot right away? It's just stupid.

Edited July 9, 2022 by David Von Pein

[Ron Bulman]

25 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:

And you do know that that is a totally unconfirmed theory, right?

Moreover, it's a really silly theory too. And for a very obvious reason. Because why would anybody who was setting up LHO want to risk having TWO different "Oswalds" being seen at the very same location at the very same time? Were the plotters TRYING to expose their patsy plot right away? It's just stupid.

So, I'm stupid?  Stupid is as stupid does.  It's not a silly theory, it's a documented fact in the DPD records.

Your no James Douglass yourself Dave.  Read Unspeakable and get back to me.

 

[David Von Pein]

3 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

So, I'm stupid?

I wasn't calling YOU stupid, Ron. I was calling the theory stupid. And I was calling any plotters stupid who would have been engaged in such a "Let's Allow TWO Oswalds To Walk Around The Texas Theater At The Exact Same Time And Potentially Blow To Bits Our Plot To Frame LHO" scheme.

 

3 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

It's not a silly theory, it's a documented fact in the DPD records.

You actually think the DPD records prove as a "documented fact" that there were 2 "Oswalds" in the Texas Theater on 11/22/63?

You're dreaming.

[Ron Bulman]

18 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:

I wasn't calling YOU stupid, Ron. I was calling the theory stupid. And I was calling any plotters stupid who would have been engaged in such a "Let's Allow TWO Oswalds To Walk Around The Texas Theater At The Exact Same Time And Potentially Blow To Bits Our Plot To Frame LHO" scheme.

 

You actually think the DPD records prove as a "documented fact" that there were 2 "Oswalds" in the Texas Theater on 11/22/63?

You're dreaming.

Yep.  Not dreaming.  Read the thread.  Jim Hargrove, myself and others provide the links and quotes.  DPD documents prove one "Oswald" was arrested in the balcony.  Testimony and statements support he was taken down the back stairs and out the back door.

Maybe you're dreaming the Warren Omission is the Truth.  Everybody's got their dues in life to pay.  Dream om.

 

[David Von Pein]

10 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

DPD documents prove one "Oswald" was arrested in the balcony.  Testimony and statements support he was taken down the back stairs and out the back door.

Utter B.S.

Never happened.