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16 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

      Netanyahu has now killed more than 4,000 children in Gaza, while bombing residential apartment buildings, schools, and numerous hospitals and healthcare facilities.   These are blatant war crimes.

 

Not necessarily, William:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-war-crimes-international-law-explainer-intl/index.html

 

16 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Basically, you're denying genocide and ethnic cleansing-- despite the fact that Netanyahu and some of his Likud Party associates have openly called for ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the West Bank.

 

Netanyahu has called for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza? Citation please.

 

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9 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Not necessarily, William:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-war-crimes-international-law-explainer-intl/index.html

 

 

Netanyahu has called for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza? Citation please.

 

Sandy,

1)  Netanyahu recently cited the genocidal Bible verse from 1 Samuel in which the Israelites were commanded by Yahweh to wipe out the Amaleks.  

Netanyahu declares a Holy War of Annihilation on Civilians of Gaza, Citing the Bible (juancole.com)

2)  In his recent criticism of Obama, Bill Maher inaccurately referred to Israel's serious war crimes in Gaza as "collateral damage."  The deliberate bombing of residential apartment buildings, schools, and hospitals-- and the mass murder of 11,000 Palestinians, including 4,000 children-- is not "collateral damage."  It's a war crime.  Maher is denying Netanyahu's war crimes.

Bill Maher slams Obama's 'moral equivalency' on Israel-Hamas (nypost.com)

 

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Israel hasn't taken any hostages, as Matt points out.  

Instead, they've simply opted to bury Palestinian bodies under piles of rubble.

Thousands of bodies lie buried in rubble in Gaza. Families dig to retrieve them, often by hand
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apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-buried-rubble-airstrikes-89c0e8d0934d573d94d2fbfeba44d933


Updated 1:45 PM EST, November 17, 2023

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The wreckage goes on for block after devastated block. The smell is sickening. Every day, hundreds of people claw through tons of rubble with shovels and iron bars and their bare hands.

They are looking for the bodies of their children. Their parents. Their neighbors. All of them killed in Israeli missile strikes. The corpses are there, somewhere in the endless acres of destruction.

More than five weeks into Israel’s war against Hamas, some streets are more like graveyards. Officials in Gaza say they don’t have the equipment, manpower or fuel to search properly for the living, let alone the dead.

Israel says its strikes target fighters and the infrastructure of Hamas, the militant group behind the deadly Oct. 7 attack that killed about 1,200 people in Israel. Hamas often operates in residential areas, and Israel accuses it of using the civilian population as human shields, though it does not explain specific targeting reasons for most strikes.

 

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18 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

 

I'm pretty sure that the title of that article is a lie. Netanyahu hasn't declared a war on the civilians of Gaza... he has declared a war on Hamas. Hamas just happens to live and operate in Gaza. They use the civilians there as human shields.

 

18 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

2)  In his recent criticism of Obama, Bill Maher inaccurately referred to Israel's serious war crimes in Gaza as "collateral damage."

 

I agree with Bill Maher.

It's an exceedingly sad state of affairs in Gaza, with all the deaths and suffering going on. In retrospect, something should have been done years ago to eradicate Hamas from Gaza. And the Palestinians should have been given U.S. aid decades ago. (Not to mention aid from other rich nations, and from Arab countries.) But it's too late now and we are left with Israel experiencing their 911 equivalent and responding to it by declaring war on Hamas.

My hope is that once this is over, the U.S. and other countries will rebuild Gaza and then do everything possible to imperilment the two state solution.

 

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19 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Updated 1:45 PM EST, November 17, 2023

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The wreckage goes on for block after devastated block. The smell is sickening. Every day, hundreds of people claw through tons of rubble with shovels and iron bars and their bare hands.

They are looking for the bodies of their children. Their parents. Their neighbors. All of them killed in Israeli missile strikes. The corpses are there, somewhere in the endless acres of destruction.

More than five weeks into Israel’s war against Hamas, some streets are more like graveyards. Officials in Gaza say they don’t have the equipment, manpower or fuel to search properly for the living, let alone the dead.

Israel says its strikes target fighters and the infrastructure of Hamas, the militant group behind the deadly Oct. 7 attack that killed about 1,200 people in Israel. Hamas often operates in residential areas, and Israel accuses it of using the civilian population as human shields, though it does not explain specific targeting reasons for most strikes.

 

Yes, that's a fair assessment of the situation.

 

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