Revenge?

[Roger Odisio]

To attribute the JFKA to personal revenge is the trivialize what happened.  It requires ignoring the string of political murders of the 60s, of which it was the centerpiece:  Lamumba, Hammarskjold, JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, RFK, and Fred Hampton to mention a few of the victims.

 

No, the murder was about who would control America's relationship with the rest of the world. It was about the forces for war and peace.  It was about destruction of opposition from the Left.

 

JFK established which side he was on at American University when he said the kind of peace he was seeking was *not* a Pax Americana enforced by American weapons of war.  But that is exactly what his killers wanted.

 

You can draw a straight line from the Dulles brothers through Cheney and Rumsfeld to the band of fools running Washington today trying to enforce the latest version of that Pax Americana.

[W. Niederhut]

2 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

To attribute the JFKA to personal revenge is the trivialize what happened.  It requires ignoring the string of political murders of the 60s, of which it was the centerpiece:  Lamumba, Hammarskjold, JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, RFK, and Fred Hampton to mention a few of the victims.

 

No, the murder was about who would control America's relationship with the rest of the world. It was about the forces for war and peace.  It was about destruction of opposition from the Left.

 

JFK established which side he was on at American University when he said the kind of peace he was seeking was *not* a Pax Americana enforced by American weapons of war.  But that is exactly what his killers wanted.

 

You can draw a straight line from the Dulles brothers through Cheney and Rumsfeld to the band of fools running Washington today trying to enforce the latest version of that Pax Americana.

It's a good point.

The larger issue obviously, had to do with the Cold War and the military industrial Pax Americana.

But personal vendettas may have also played a role in motivating the murder.

Allen Dulles, General Charles Cabell, Lemnitzer, Burke, LeMay, Cord Meyer, William Harvey, the JMWave personnel, and even Ed Lansdale had axes to grind.

[Leslie Sharp]

2 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

To attribute the JFKA to personal revenge is the trivialize what happened.  It requires ignoring the string of political murders of the 60s, of which it was the centerpiece:  Lamumba, Hammarskjold, JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, RFK, and Fred Hampton to mention a few of the victims.

 

No, the murder was about who would control America's relationship with the rest of the world. It was about the forces for war and peace.  It was about destruction of opposition from the Left.

 

JFK established which side he was on at American University when he said the kind of peace he was seeking was *not* a Pax Americana enforced by American weapons of war.  But that is exactly what his killers wanted.

 

You can draw a straight line from the Dulles brothers through Cheney and Rumsfeld to the band of fools running Washington today trying to enforce the latest version of that Pax Americana.

The quagmire is that you can also draw a through line from America First Committee of the 1930s, through Dallas and those assassinations you so appropriately include, to Trump's attempted coup in 2020.  We're not confronted with a choice between the two; we're confronted with finding a Third Way.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Leslie Sharp

[Roger Odisio]

8 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

The quagmire is that you can also draw a through line from America First Committee of the 1930s, through Dallas and those assassinations you so appropriately include, to Trump's attempted coup in 2020.  We're not confronted with a choice between the two; we're confronted with finding a Third Way.

I

The JFKA is not a quagmire; it only seems that way because of the plethora of relatively unimportant rabbit holes people choose to focus on.  See almost any of the many talks and writings of Vince Salandria.

In order to find a "Third Way", or anything substantially different than the current mess, you have to first understand how we got here and the JFKA's role in that.  That means who did it and why.

 

[Leslie Sharp]

5 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

I

The JFKA is not a quagmire; it only seems that way because of the plethora of relatively unimportant rabbit holes people choose to focus on.  See almost any of the many talks and writings of Vince Salandria.

In order to find a "Third Way", or anything substantially different than the current mess, you have to first understand how we got here and the JFKA's role in that.  That means who did it and why.

 

That means who did it and why.

We are in full agreement.

[Benjamin Cole]

6 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

The quagmire is that you can also draw a through line from America First Committee of the 1930s, through Dallas and those assassinations you so appropriately include, to Trump's attempted coup in 2020.  We're not confronted with a choice between the two; we're confronted with finding a Third Way.

"The quagmire is that you can also draw a through line from America First Committee of the 1930s, through Dallas and those assassinations you so appropriately include, to Trump's attempted coup in 2020."--LS

 

So the Puppet-Dictator in Chief Biden did a snuff job on the JFK Records Act...to help cover up a Nazi-fueled JFKA? 

And now Biden sends cluster bombs to be deployed by the swastika-emblazoned Azov battalion? 

Why did Biden declare the "final certification" has been performed on the JFK Records? The words "final certification" have a Nazi-esque ring, no?  

Was that a secret signal to modern-Nazis? 

 

Tulsi Gabbard rips U.S president ahead of midterms | Details

 

Oct 19, 2565 BE — Former Congresswoman and the first Hindu American to run for the White House in 2020 - Tulsi Gabbard has compared Joe Biden to Adolf Hitler.

An accusation is a good as the truth in modern-day media and politics.

Biden=Hitler!

 

[Benjamin Cole]

 

#405 | JOE BIDEN IS THE HITLER OF AMERICA FOR NEW WORLD ORDER

September 11, 2021

 

14 min

 

In this video-based podcast episode, I discuss how Joe Biden has become full-blown Fascist Hitler of Modern Times in America. His new executive order is lawless and dangerous for all humanity in America and the world as it will cripple America and take all of our allies down with them and the world.

 

Or...

 

You can sub in the name "Trump" for "Biden." 

 

This is modern political discourse. 

 

[W. Niederhut]

Mods,

    Is there any way to get Ben Cole's MAGA spam off of this forum?  It belongs on the MAGA Water Cooler thread.

    Ben's latest redundant anti-Biden MAGA spam is reminiscent of his "patriot purge" MAGA spam about J6 that ruined the 56 Years thread.

[Leslie Sharp]

10 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Mods,

    Is there any way to get Ben Cole's MAGA spam off of this forum?  It belongs on the MAGA Water Cooler thread.

    Ben's latest redundant anti-Biden MAGA spam is reminiscent of his "patriot purge" MAGA spam about J6 that ruined the 56 Years thread.

Mods, Hear! Hear!

Perhaps mention of the continuity of the coup in Dallas  and the through line to Trump contributed to the distraction; or, perhaps Mr. Cole is just hovering to make sure no one mentions that Trump failed to release the files when he had the obligation and the opportunity in 2017.

Edited August 6, 2023 by Leslie Sharp

[Benjamin Cole]

1 hour ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Mods, Hear! Hear!

Perhaps mention of the continuity of the coup in Dallas  and the through line to Trump contributed to the distraction; or, perhaps Mr. Cole is just hovering to make sure no one mentions that Trump failed to release the files when he had the obligation and the opportunity in 2017.

LS--

I have mentioned innumerable times that Trump unilaterally and illegally extended the deadline for the release of the JFK records. That is an excellent reason to hold Trump in contempt, and to not vote for Trump. 

However, the Puppet-Dictator in Chief Biden is the President now, and has executed what appears to be a permanent snuff job on the JFK Records---indeed, Biden himself called his grotesque act the "Final Certification."  Has a ring to it, no?

You have never answered the question: Why would Biden, who sat on and then chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for decades, who was the  D-Party veep for eight years and then President, do a snuff job on the JFK Records?

Biden is "Mr. D." 

Moreover, Biden's illegal snuff job has engendered zero resistance in the entire D-Party. Not a whimper! 

How to explain that?  

Your explanation is...Trump is a Nazi? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2023 by Benjamin Cole

[Mark Knight]

Revenge.

It's the path to a multitude of rabbit holes.

Mafia. Anti-Castro Cubans. Pro-Castro Cubans.

"And the beat goes on; yeah, the beat goes on."

Because, to a degree, all these revenge seekers have both motives and resources.

If you want to tie up ALL the political assassinations on US soil in the '60s and early '70s in a neat little package, consider...Richard Nixon.

After the '62 California gubernatorial election, "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore" was Nixon's pouty response. Yet 6 years later, he's POTUS. MLK's assassination didn't benefit the Democrats, but it helped Nixon's campaign by removing a charismatic pro-Democratic Party leader. RFK's assassination helped Nixon by...yep, you guessed it...removing a charismatic Democratic leader. After RFK's death, Gene McCarthy folded his campaign and the anything-but-charismatic Hubert Humphrey became the Democratic Party nominee, handing the Presidency to Nixon.  Fast-forward to '72. Even though McGovern's campaign imploded, George Wallace's campaign as an independent raised the possibility that the three-way race might not be decided by the Electoral College, but by the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives. So George Wallace is shot. Cui buono? Who benefits? Nixon.

But Watergate showed us that Nixon wasn't at the head of the pyramid. Once Nixon had served his masters' purpose, the skids under him were greased with the release of the flood of Watergate evidence, and Nixon's time as POTUS was done.

Figure out who was behind all of Nixon's pre-Watergate "good fortune," and I believe you'll discover the persons behind not only the JFK assassination but the others as well. Because I don't believe that history occurs in a vacuum. I think the JFK assassination was their first "success" on US soil, and that emboldened them to continue right through '72, if not beyond.

 

[Ron Bulman]

18 minutes ago, Mark Knight said:

Revenge.

It's the path to a multitude of rabbit holes.

Mafia. Anti-Castro Cubans. Pro-Castro Cubans.

"And the beat goes on; yeah, the beat goes on."

Because, to a degree, all these revenge seekers have both motives and resources.

If you want to tie up ALL the political assassinations on US soil in the '60s and early '70s in a neat little package, consider...Richard Nixon.

After the '62 California gubernatorial election, "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore" was Nixon's pouty response. Yet 6 years later, he's POTUS. MLK's assassination didn't benefit the Democrats, but it helped Nixon's campaign by removing a charismatic pro-Democratic Party leader. RFK's assassination helped Nixon by...yep, you guessed it...removing a charismatic Democratic leader. After RFK's death, Gene McCarthy folded his campaign and the anything-but-charismatic Hubert Humphrey became the Democratic Party nominee, handing the Presidency to Nixon.  Fast-forward to '72. Even though McGovern's campaign imploded, George Wallace's campaign as an independent raised the possibility that the three-way race might not be decided by the Electoral College, but by the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives. So George Wallace is shot. Cui buono? Who benefits? Nixon.

But Watergate showed us that Nixon wasn't at the head of the pyramid. Once Nixon had served his masters' purpose, the skids under him were greased with the release of the flood of Watergate evidence, and Nixon's time as POTUS was done.

Figure out who was behind all of Nixon's pre-Watergate "good fortune," and I believe you'll discover the persons behind not only the JFK assassination but the others as well. Because I don't believe that history occurs in a vacuum. I think the JFK assassination was their first "success" on US soil, and that emboldened them to continue right through '72, if not beyond.

 

Prescott Bush?  His backing of Nixon "greased the skids" for GHWB? Just a thought.