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The rifles were:

4 1903 Model Springfield rifles, serials 319961, 1371173, 367239, 803168

2 .22 calibre rifles

1 English rifle, serial 7/47 AB 5633

1 flare gun, serial 3971

1 .38 calibre revolver

1 sword

a quantity of ammunition

Ferrie said the firearms were purchased at Crescent Gun Shop in 1959 for the New Orleans Cadet Rifle Club. He said the flare gun was given to him by the CAP in Cleveland.

One of the devices mentioned may have been a Morse Code key with an amplifier and power supply. Ferrie said he needed this to maintain proficiency in MC as a pilot, and he apparently taught it to some of his CAP boys.

One of those boys does recall Ferrie having posession of a set of field telephones and using them in CAP and "IMSU" work.

What was the source of the list you posted?

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James,

Nice Photo. Is that also Ferrie's plane in the background, in the snapshot of him and Julian Buznedo?

Perhaps the one individual that appears in two of the photos was Jimmy Johnson, Ferrie's mechanic?

Meanwhile, out at New Orleans Lakefront Airport, Lou Ivon had located a former airplane mechanic of Ferrie's named Jimmy Johnson and had persuaded him to go back to work for Ferrie but to keep contact with our office. This airport stakeout on Ferrie produced an early dividend. Ferrie told Johnson that a package would be arriving for him shortly. A white compact sports car would be parked squarely in front of the airport administration building, with the windows up but with the door unlocked. Ferrie asked Johnson to check every ten or fifteen minutes to see whether such a car had arrived. When it did, he said, Johnson was to reach under the front seat where he would find — taped to the bottom of the seat — a brown package, which he was to bring to Ferrie.

  The car arrived, and Johnson followed the instructions. When Johnson brought the package into the administration building, Ferrie took it to the bathroom to examine the contents. He came out full of excitement and announced that he was going to buy a brand new car.

  This cash apparently coming to Ferrie from a mysterious source only made more intriguing another fact that Jim Alcock had uncovered. By serving a subpoena on Ferrie's bank, Alcock found that Ferrie had deposited more than $7,000 in cash to his account in the weeks immediately preceding Kennedy's assassination.

  One other lead about Ferrie yielded some provocative information. Ferrie, once a pilot for Eastern Airlines, had been investigated by a private detective agency. I obtained a copy of its report. The investigators had maintained a stakeout near his residence and found that Ferrie was visited frequently by a man named Dante Marachini.

Ryan,

I don't know what kind of rifles they were - I'll have to keep looking, unless someone else can answer that question? Trying to look at Ferrie requires wading through hundreds of stories about CAP and Oswald, his skating trip and his death - that appears to be the focus.

I thought I had seen a reference, but cannot locate it now. It would be great if all 4 of them were 7.65mm MCs B) . I saw a nice thread on Lancer about the possibility for a 7.65mm MC being fitted with sabots to mimic a 6.5mm. The Morrow account concerning the low frequency transmitters is interesting - but seems to imply a different set of equipment from the field telephones - probably still VHF.

From Spartacus.

One day later I received a second phone call. It was Eladio del Valle calling from, I assumed, Miami. He asked me to supply him with four transceivers which were not detectable by any communications equipment then available on the market. Although his request seemed impossible, I told him that I had an idea which might fulfill his requirement. I could provide him with sub-miniaturized units whose operation would be confined to a range of fifty or one hundred kilohertz. To operate any sizable distance, the units would require an antenna at least several feet in length. A wire taped to the user's leg would easily suffice for this purpose. The set-up would not be pretty, but I could assure him that no one would be monitoring these low frequencies.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/cap.txt

            OSWALD, DAVID FERRIE AND THE CIVIL AIR PATROL

While he lived in New Orleans, Oswald became a member of the Civil Air

Patrol there.  He had joined the student aviation organization at the

age of 15 and attended CAP meetings for an unknown period of trine,

generally believed to have been relatively brief.  In her testimony

before the Warren Commission, Marguerite Oswald stated that her son Lee

"joined the Civil Air Patrol" at "age 15 1/2 or so" and attended CAP

meetings with a high school classmate, Edward Voebel. The Warren

Commission Report touched only briefly on Oswald's CAP involvement,

noting in appendix XIII that, "He was briefly a member of the Civil Air

Patrol, and considered joining an organization of high school students

interested in astronomy."

Oswald's involvement with the CAP in New Orleans became the subject of

intense controversy, speculation and investigation within several days

of President Kennedy's assassination and has continued to attract

attention since then. The central question has been whether Oswald may

have met and known David W. Ferrie during that period. Ferrie was a

private investigator and pilot in New Orleans who has been widely

regarded as one of the more "mysterious" persons to figure in the

investigation of President Kennedy's death. Ferrie was briefly the

subject of investigation by the FBI, New Orleans District Attorney's

Office, and Secret Service during the week following the President's

murder. Later Ferrie also became subject of the controversial

investigation by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison during 1967-

69 that led to an abortive prosecution. This in turn led to serious

charges against Garrison for the questionable and careless nature of his

investigation. The brief FBI and Secret Service investigations of Ferrie

had not focused to any significant degree on Ferrie's background and

working associations, while the subsequent Garrison investigation

focused exclusively on Ferrie's personal associations with Cuban exiles

and purported links to the CIA. They left largely untouched important

aspects of Ferrie's background, in particular his activities and

associations during 1963, at which time he was employed by Carlos

Marcello's attorney, G. Wray Gill. Ferrie's investigative work for

Marcello had brought him into close personal association with the

organized crime leader.

The allegation that Oswald had been associated with Ferrie -- and that

Ferrie may somehow have been involved with Oswald in the President's

murder--was first set forth by a colleague of Ferrie's in New Orleans.

Jack S. Martin, a sometime private investigator and friend of Ferrie's,

notified various investigators during the days immediately following the

assassination that he suspected may have aided Oswald in the crime.

Martin had known Ferrie for over 2 years and had visited him

occasionally at the office of Carlos Marcello's attorney, where Ferrie

worked as an investigator. On November 24, 1963, Martin contacted New

Orleans District attorney Herman Kohlman to advise that he suspected

Ferrie may have known Oswald for some time and that Ferrie, years

earlier, may have been Oswald's instructor in the Civil Air Patrol.

On November 25, Martin was interviewed by FBI Agent Regis Kennedy in

New Orleans and provided further information.  He stated that he had

informed several people in the news media of his information about

Ferrie and Oswald and that he thought had once seen a photograph of

Oswald and other CAP members when he once visited Ferrie's home.  Martin

stated that he had heard on television that Oswald had in fact belonged

to the New Orleans CAP and thus began to think that Ferrie had probably

known him. According to the FBI reports of his interview, Martin went on

to voice other suspicions about Ferrie:

Martin stated that he observed in Ferrie's home a number foreign made

firearms and it is his opinion that Ferrie could have taught Oswald how

to purchase a foreign made possibly have purchased the gun that was

shown on television. He advised that he saw similar type weapons at

Ferrie's home when he visited there 2 years ago.

Martin further informed the FBI that he believed Ferrie was an "amateur

hypnotist" who may have been capable of hypnotizing Oswald.  Further,

Ferrie had once told him about a young friend who had witnessed an

alleged "crime against nature" that Ferrie had committed, a young man

who had left New Orleans "and subsequently joined the U.S. Marine

Corps." Martin stated that when he heard on television that Oswald had

been a Marine, he began to suspect that he was the young man Ferrie had

referred to. Martin cautioned, however that this might have only been a

coincidence.  Martin further told the FBI of Ferrie's past history of

homosexual arrests,  stating that "Ferrie is a completely disreputable

person, a notorious sex deviate with a brilliant mind.  Further, Martin

"suspected him of being capable of committing any type crime."  Martin

had concluded by stating  that he felt that Ferrie's possible

association with Lee Oswald should be the subject of close examination

as he personally believed that he could be implicated in the killing of

President John F. Kennedy.

The introduction of David Ferrie as a "suspect" or target of

investigation in the Kennedy assassination case was to result in the

development of a number of areas of information, allegations and

evidence. The FBI undertook a brief investigation into the question of

whether Lee Oswald had known Ferrie in the Civil Air Patrol.

interviewing several former CAP members, but did not make any final

determination. In an interview with FBI agents in New Orleans on

November 25, 1963, Ferrie denied he had ever had contact with Oswald in

the CAP.  He said he had served as a commandant of the CAP from 1953 to

1955 and that his unit had met at New Orleans Lakefront Airport. While

his CAP cadets were instructed in the use of rifles, he had not

participated in that training.  According to the FBI report of his

interview, Ferrie "stated that he does not know Lee Harvey Oswald and to

the best of his knowledge Oswald was never a member of the CAP Squadron

in New Orleans during the period he was with the group." The FBI report

continued:

Ferrie said that to the best of his knowledge he does not know any

individual named Lee Harvey Oswald nor has he ever known the individual

represented by photograph presented to him as that of Lee Harvey Oswald

in the CAP, in any business connection or in any social capacity.

Ferrie upon viewing the photograph stated that the profile view of the

photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald has a very vague familiarity to him but

the full face and full length photographs of Oswald are not familiar to

him.

Ferrie went on to state that he was in fact acquainted with Martin, who

first made the allegations about Ferrie and Oswald.  He had known Martin

as a private investigator for over 8 years, and that Martin had

"attempted to insert himself" into Ferrie's "personal affairs." Ferrie

further stated that Martin had once been diagnosed as a "paranoid" in

the psychiatric ward of a local hospital.  He had thrown Martin out of

the office of Marcello's attorney earlier that year, and Martin resented

him for that act.  The FBI report stated:

[Ferrie] stated that Martin began visiting him at the office of

Attorney G. Wray Gill and that Mr. Gill did not want Martin hanging

around his office. Ferrie claimed that in June of 1963 he put Martin out

of Mr. Gill's office in an undiplomatic manner and that since that time

Martin has bedeviled him in every manner possible.

The FBI and Secret Service investigation into the possibility that

Oswald and Ferrie had been associated in the Civil Air Patrol came to an

end a few days after the allegations were first reported. A Secret

Service report concluded that "information furnished by Jack S. Martin

to the effect that David William Ferrie associated with Lee Harvey

Oswald at New Orleans and trained Oswald in the use of a rifle" was

"without foundation."  It stated further that "Jack S. Martin, who has

the appearance of being an alcoholic, has the reputation of furnishing

incorrect information to law enforcement officers, attorneys, etc." It

also said that on November 26, 1963, the FBI had informed the Service

that Martin had "admitted to FBI agents" that his alleged information

about Ferrie and Oswald was "a figment of his imagination and that he

had made up the story after reading the newspaper and watching

television."  Actually the FBI had overstated the content of its

interview with Martin on November 26, when they reported it to the

Secret Service.  As noted earlier, Martin himself had cautioned the FBI

that he had no evidence to support his suspicions and noted that his

information was just that: suspicions that he thought merited

investigation.

The Secret Service report also stated that Martin, during an interview

with Secret Service agents, had acknowledged he did not have any

specific details to back up his suspicions.  Martin had admitted to

being a heavy drinker and stated that he may have exaggerated his

information and "told his story as though it was based on facts."  The

Secret Service report concluded by stating, "In view the above, this

phase of the investigation involving William David Ferrie will be

considered closed."

On November 28, 1963, in a Teletype to the Director and the Dallas

office the New Orleans FBI office reported that the investigation of

Martin's allegations was being concluded and noted that "all allegations

against Ferrie stem from Jack S. Martin who was previously confined to

the psychiatric ward of Charity Hospital, New Orleans, for character

disorder. Martin is well known to New Orleans office and is considered

thoroughly unreliable." The November 28, 1963, FBI Teletype also set

forth additional information obtained during second interview with

Ferrie from earlier that day.  In it, Ferrie had again denied that he

had ever had any contact with Oswald.  The FBI report of the interview

noted, however:

  David William Ferrie reinterviewed today and advised at time of Bay of

Pigs invasion of Cuba he was very much embarrassed and concerned over

lack of air cover provided and severely criticized President Kennedy,

both in public and private. Ferrie stated he has never made any

statement that President Kennedy should be killed with any intention to

do so and has never at any time outlined any plan or made any statement

how this could be done or who should do it.  Ferrie said he is very

outspoken and may have used an offhand or colloquial expression, "He

ought to be shot" in expressing his feelings concerning Cuban situation.

Ferrie said he has also been critical of any President riding in open

car and has stated anyone could hide in the bushes and shoot a

President.

Two weeks later, Ferrie furnished an additional statement to FBI agent

Regis Kennedy of the New Orleans office.  He disclosed that he had

conducted CAP sessions at New Orleans Moisant Airport in addition to

Lakefront Airport, as he had stated earlier:

  In 1955, or thereabouts, I assisted, for a time, the Moisant Squadron

of Civil Air Patrol, at Moisant Airport, New Orleans, La, though I

cannot establish through personal records or recollection the exact

dates of this connection. I have no records or recollection, to my

knowledge, to show that Lee Harvey Oswald was, or was not, a member of

this particular unit of the Civil Air Patrol. To my best knowledge and

belief do not know Lee Harvey Oswald, and have no personal recollection

of ever having met him. If I did ever meet him it was very casual and to

my best recollection have definitely not seen him in recent years.

The committee undertook an extensive examination of Lee Harvey Oswald's

involvement in the Civil Air Patrol and sought to determine whether

Oswald did in fact have any contact with Ferrie during that period. The

committee believed that the possibility that Oswald and Ferrie may. have

been in contact during that period presented significant questions that

needed to be resolved. A number of areas of information regarding

possible associations between Oswald and Ferrie in 1963 had been

developed by the committee, information that the committee believed to

be of important evidentiary value.  For example, the committee developed

new information about Ferrie's various activities on behalf of Carlos

Marcello in 1963, and his personal contact with the Mafia leader during

the fall of that year.

During the brief investigation in 1963 conducted by the FBI, Secret

Service, and New Orleans district attorney's office of allegations that

Oswald might have been associated with Ferrie, another witness had

provided information similar to that of Martin. Edward Voebel was a

former classmate of Oswald's who had attended the CAP meetings with

Oswald. Voebel, whom the Warren Commission had established was Oswald's

closest friend during his teenage years in New Orleans, had attended

Beauregard High School with Oswald and had actually been the friend who

first accompanied Oswald to the CAP meetings.  The Warren Commission

itself used Voebel's Commission testimony as a primary source of

information on Oswald's adolescent years.

Speaking of Voebel, Mrs. Marguerite Oswald told the Warren Commission,

"This young man and Lee were very friendly; he and Lee joined the Civil

Air Patrol together, and he often came to the house."  Oswald's cousin,

Marilyn Murret, further told the Commission that Voebel was "the only

one" of Oswald's classmates whom he was close to and that Voebel "got

him to join the Civil Air Patrol, in which he was very interested."

On November 25, 1963, at the same time that Martin's allegations about

Ferrie and Oswald were being investigated, Voebel was interviewed by the

FBI.  He stated that he had become a close friend of Oswald during the

period 1954-55, and that they used to play pool together after school at

a poolroom next to Oswald's home in Exchange Alley.  Oswald seemed to be

a typical teenage boy during the period of their friendship. Voebel said

that reports that Oswald was already "studying Communism" were a "lot of

baloney" -- Oswald commonly read "paperback trash."

During this first interview with FBI agents, Voebel spoke of his

involvement in the CAP with Oswald:

  Voebel stated that he and Oswald were members of the Civil Air Patrol

in New Orleans with Capt. Dave Ferrie during the time they were in

school.  Voebel at this time seemed to indicate clearly that there had

probably been contact between Ferrie and Oswald in the CAP. He became

uncertain about such contact during the course of a second interview

with FBI agents later that same day, November 25, 1963.  Then he stated

that he had persuaded Oswald to attend the meetings of his CAP unit at

Moisant Airport in 1955.  Oswald had "attended two or three drills and

possibly four drills at the most."  Voebel further stated that it was

difficult to recall how often Oswald was the CAP meetings because

"Oswald had a knack for being. there and not being noticed." The CAP

unit met once or twice a week and included 20 to 25 members, some of

whom were girls.  According to the FBI report of this second interview:

  Voebel stated that he could not recall if Capt. Dave Ferrie was

commander of the unit at the time Oswald attended meetings or whether

Oswald attended meetings prior to Captain Ferrie taking command.

Voebel stated that Ferrie was commander of his CAP unit during part of

1955, but that he could not recall precisely when or if it was during

the same period that Oswald attended the meetings. Voebel recalled that

Captain Ferrie was "very intelligent," reportedly held several degrees

and was then a pilot for Eastern Airlines.  He said that Oswald quit

attending the Moisant Airport CAP meetings sometime after being enrolled

as a member because another' CAP unit (at New Orleans Lakefront Airport)

would be closer to home.  Voebel further told the FBI that Ferrie had

once taken his CAP unit on an overnight "bivouac" in which Ferrie had

instructed the cadets to bring along rifles for shooting practice.

Voebel did not believe Oswald had participated in this outing. The FBI

report noted that Voebel received "a crank-type telephone call" during

the course of the interview, and had mentioned that he "had also been

frightened" by a person who came to his home earlier claiming to be a

news reporter. This man disturbed him and had "acted very suspicious? An FBI Teletype from the New Orleans office to Director Edgar Hoover on

November 26, 1963, summarized that "Voebel was unable to recall if

Oswald attended meetings under command of Ferrie or with previous

commander."

On November 27, 1963, 5 days after President Kennedy's murder, Voebel

was also interviewed by New Orleans Police Department officers.  In a

report of this interview, prepared for P.J. Trosclair, Jr., of the

department, it was noted that Voebel believed Oswald had attended the

Moisant CAP meetings for "only about 1 month."  During the course of

this police interview, however, Voebel also stated that while he could

not be sure, he thought that Oswald may once have attended a party given

by. Ferrie during their involvement with the CAP.  According to the

report:

  Voebel stated that he believed Oswald attended a party (not sure)

at the home of David Ferrie (captain) right after the members of

the CAP received their stripes.

Voebel did not elaborate on this event. Two days later, on November 29,

1963, in an internal FBI memorandum from Assistant

Director Alex Rosen to Associate Director Alan Belmont, Voebel's account

of his CAP involvement was again summarized:

  Edward Voebel, on interview, said he had been a member of the CAP, New

Orleans, for approximately 1 year, 1955-56. David William Ferrie took

over as commander of the CAP unit during this time. Voebel took Oswald

to one of the meetings and stated Oswald attended several meetings

possibly four meetings at the most.

On April 7, 1964, the testimony of Edward Voebel was taken by Warren

Commission senior counsel Albert Jenner in New Orleans.  While the

Warren Commission had not actively investigated t e possibility of an

association between Oswald and Ferrie, Ferrie's name came up briefly

when Voebel was questioned about Oswald's activities with the CAP.

Voebel recalled that he had first become a friend of Oswald's when he

witnessed him being beaten up one day after high school.  Two brothers

who had earlier gotten into fistfight with Oswald had sent a friend of

theirs to beat him up.  Voebel noted that their school "seemed to draw a

lot of bad characters" and that "it was almost impossible to go to

school without brushing against somebody or getting involved in a

fight." In his testimony, Voebel stated that Oswald had attended "two or

three meetings" of the CAP and "bought a uniform and everything, and

seemed to be very interested at the outset?

Toward the end of his testimony, Voebel was asked if he could recall

who had headed their CAP unit at that time:

Mr. JENNER. Who was the majordomo of the CAP unit that you attended ?

Mr. VOEBEL. I think it was Captain Ferrie. I think he was there when

Lee attended one of these meetings, but I'm not sure of that. Now that I

think of it, I don't think Captain Ferrie was there at that time but he

might have been. That isn't too clear to me.

The committee sought to locate Edward Voebel to take his testimony, but

learned from his father, Sidney Voebel of New Orleans, that his son had

died in 1971.  Sidney Voebel could not recall what his son had told him

regarding his past contacts with Oswald and Ferrie. While stating that

he doesn't "have any proof," Voebel said he believed that the

circumstances surrounding his son's death were "mysterious." He had

"died suddenly from a blood clot" at the age of 31 when he suffered an

attack of pneumonia.  The committee found that the incomplete and

disorderly state the registration and membership records of the New

Orleans Civil Air Patrol did not permit a clear determination of Oswald

and Ferrie's respective periods of involvement with the organization. In

an interview with the FBI on November 25, 1963, Alvin Meister, a

commander the New Orleans CAP, stated that the CAP cadet files were kept

for only 1 year after a cadet terminated his service.  In an FBI

interview that same day, a former executive officer of the CAP noted

another difficulty in trying to reconstruct the membership records from

the period of time in which Oswald had been involved.  Harold Tool then

of the St. Bernard Parish Sheriff's Office, informed the FBI that "most

of the records of the squadron were stolen in late 1960."

In an FBI interview on November 27, 1963, another CAP executive was

able to supply partial information regarding Oswald's involvement.

Joseph Ehrlicker told FBI agents that while he was unable to find a CAP

application by Oswald, he was able to locate a record indicating that

"Oswald was enrolled as a CAP cadet on July 27, 1955, at which time he

was given Serial No. 084965." Oswald was then enrolled in the cadet

squadron st Moisant Airport. The records did not indicate when Oswald

left the CAP unit. Also with regard to David Ferrie:

  Ehrlicker was able to determine that Ferrie's first period as Squadron

Commander was terminated December 31, 1954. He was working at Moisant

Airport at this time. It was later found out that Ferrie subsequent to

this date was working with the squadron at Moisant without official

connection with the CAP. As of late 1955 he was no longer with the

squadron.

As can be seen from the fragmented CAP membership documentation

provided by Ehrlicker, Ferrie was involved with the Moisant CAP unit (in

an apparently unofficial capacity) for an uncertain period of time

between December 31, 1954, and "late 1955?'  The same CAP documentation

indicated that Oswald had been involved in the same CAP unit in the

summer of 1955, having officially enrolled on July 27, 1955.  Thus,

while the CAP documentation available in 1963 did not permit a

conclusive determination, the records themselves lent substantial

credence to the possibility that Oswald and Ferrie had been involved in

the same CAP unit during the same period of time.  While Ferrie stated

during his November 25, 1963, FBI interview, that he had been a

commander of the Lakefront Airport CAP unit it was not until December

10, 1963, when he provided another statement to the Bureau, that he said

he had also worked with the Moisant Airport CAP.

During the course of its investigation of Oswald's involvement with the

CAP and his possible contact with Ferrie, the committee interviewed

O'Sullivan, a former high school classmate and friend of Oswald who had

also been involved with Oswald and Voebel in the CAP.  Fred O'Sullivan

had originally suggested to Oswald and Voebel that they might enjoy

attending CAP meetings and asked them to participate m his squadron.

O'Sullivan's past involvement with Oswald in the CAP unit first came to

the attention of the FBI on November 25, 1963, when New Orleans

Assistant District Attorney Herman Kohlman informed FBI Agent Regis

Kennedy that "An unknown police officer had told the Intelligence

Division of the New Orleans Police Department that he was in the Civil

Air Patrol with Lee Harvey Oswald and that Ferrie knew Oswald?'  Later

that day, the FBI was able to identify Fred O'Sullivan of the New

Orleans Police Department Vice Squad as the classmate.  In an interview

with Bureau agents that day, O'Sullivan stated that he had persuaded his

classmates, Lee Oswald and Ed Voebel, to attend his CAP squadron

meetings at the New Orleans Lakefront Airport. Oswald and Voebel had

come "to one or two meetings, but did not join." O'Sullivan stated that

Oswald thought the Lakefront CAP location was too far away and decided

to attend the Moisant Airport CAP squadron instead. O'Sullivan told the

FBI that Ferrie "was Squadron Commander" at the "approximate time" that

Oswald came to the Lakefront CAP meetings. He added, however, that he

"could not say for certain that Oswald ever met Ferrie" at the time.  He

further stated that Ferrie himself also subsequently began working with

the other CAP unit at Moisant Airport.

In a second FBI interview, on November 26, 1963, O'Sullivan further

advised that Ferrie might have had contact with Oswald at the Moisant

Airport CAP.  According to the FBI report of this interview, "Ferrie

transferred and assumed command of the CAP at Moisant Airport at about

the same time O'Sullivan thought Oswald might have joined." O'Sullivan

further informed the Bureau that he had only recently learned of

Ferrie's homosexual background.  He also noted that Ferrie "had acquired

a reputation for being able to hypnotize people," and that he had once

hypnotized a man following one of the CAP meetings.

In an interview with the committee on October 17, 1978, O'Sullivan

repeated the account of his contacts with Oswald and Ferrie that he had

provided the FBI in 1963.  Now a security director for Hilton Hotels, he

stated that he could not say with certainty that he ever saw Oswald and

Ferrie together, although. he believed they probably did in fact attend

the CAP meetings during the same period.  In an interview on December

15, 1978, O'Sullivan again told the committee that while "Ferrie ran the

unit then, and Oswald came a couple, or a few times," he could not

recall any more specific information about the matter.

In another interview with the committee on December 9, 1978, another

former CAP member recalled Oswald's participation in the New Orleans

unit. Collin Hamer, now an official of the New Orleans Public Library,

stated that he had attended "about ten or twelve meetings" of the CAP

unit during which Oswald was also present.  Hamer knew both Oswald and

Voebel and said that Oswald had begun attending the CAP meetings

sometime around the summer of 1955.  He stated that the 10 or 12

meetings that Oswald attended were held at the Eastern Airlines hangar

at Moisant Airport.  He further stated that Oswald had attended the

meetings for roughly 2 months,  during which the unit usually met twice

a week, on Friday nights and Sunday afternoons. Hamer commented that he

had never been interviewed by the FBI following the assassination of

President Kennedy. According to Hamer, David Ferrie had been present

during the CAP meetings that Oswald attended: "Ferrie was at all the

meetings during the time Lee and I were involved in CAP. He didn't

always do the teaching, but he was always there."  Hamer told the

committee that Oswald "was a real quiet kid" and that Ferrie "treated

Oswald just like the rest of us. He was just the teacher so to speak."

Hamer further stated, "I don't know anything about whether or not Ferrie

and Oswald had any contact outside of the CAP. All I know is that Oswald

was in our unit for about 2 months, and Ferrie ran it during that time."Hamer further recalled that Ferrie was "a tough commander" who became

irritated if the cadets "goofed around at all." Hamer also recalled

calling Oswald's home on one occasion to make sure that Oswald was going

to attend a CAP meeting.  Hamer did not know why Oswald left the CAP

unit.  Hamer also told the committee that he was aware that some CAP

cadets had "hung around" at Ferrie's house and engaged in outside

activities with him.  He did not know if Oswald ever had such contact

with Ferrie.  Finally, Hammer said that he, himself, had become an

adjutant of the CAP unit several years later and "weeded out a lot of

the old files then," but did not recall handling any files on Oswald.

The committee also interviewed a former commander of the Moisant

Airport CAP squadron, Mrs. Gladys Durr.  Mrs. Durr had been interviewed

by the FBI on November 25, 1963.  In that interview, she advised that

she had assumed command of the CAP unit in October or December 1955,

which would have been several months after the CAP records indicated

Oswald left.  Mrs. Durr stated that she did not recall knowing Lee

Oswald, but that David Ferrie had been "expelled" from the CAP squadron

"at about the time" she joined it.  While Mrs. Durr became commander of

the squadron subsequent to the time when Oswald was a member, her

recollection that Ferrie was still active in the unit until late 1955

would indicate that he probably was in fact with the unit during the

period that Lee Oswald was in it. The available records indicate that

Oswald was enrolled as a cadet on July. 27, 1955, and his CAP colleagues

generally recalled him being active in the unit for a couple of months.

Thus, with Ferrie's lengthy involvement in the CAP ending (temporarily)

in late 1955, according to Commander Durr, the likelihood of Ferrie's

service with the CAP unit during Oswald's membership in the summer of

1955 seems logical.

In her committee interview, Mrs. Durr stated that while she did not

know Oswald, she could recall other cadets remembering that he attended

the meetings. She further recalled that Ferrie had originally conducted

CAP classes at New Orleans Lakefront Airport, but had then begun

teaching at Moisant Airport where she was commander. She said Ferrie was

a magnetic and intelligent man who had a strong following among the

cadets.  He also had a reputation for having bad moral character, and on

one occasion some CAP cadets had become drunk at his home and engaged in

various activities in the nude.  Mrs. Durr stated that such incidents

were what led to Ferrie being expelled from that particular CAP unit.

The committee interviewed another former commander of the New Orleans

CAP, John Irion, active with the group from 1955 to 1959. Irion, a

management and public relations consultant, worked closely with Ferrie

during their years with the CAP. The two were personal friends for over

10 years, and Irion once testified on Ferrie's behalf during a legal

proceeding against him.  Irion, Ferrie, and the mayor of New Orleans

were once photographed together a CAP photograph later published by the

New Orleans Times Picayune.. Irion recalled that Ferrie was a "dynamic"

leader known for his intelligence.  He recalled being introduced by

Ferrie to Carlos Marcello's attorney, G. Wray Gill, on more than one

occasion. Irion told the committee that he recalled Lee Oswald going

through "basic training" with the CAP during the period in which he and

Ferrie were with the New Orleans squadron, but he could not recall any

specific personal contact between Oswald and Ferrie.  He believed that

contact was highly probable during that period.  Irion stated that he

did not recall Oswald continuing with the CAP for a significant length

of time following his participation in the unit's "basic training."

Irion said he was never questioned by the FBI during the investigation

of President Kennedy's death.

The committee was able to locate and interview Anthony Atzenhoffer, who

had served as the platoon sergeant for the Moisant Airport CAP squadron

in late 1954 and 1955. Atzenhoffer recalled helping coordinate the small

CAP unit at Moisant and noted that his duties had included calling the

roll at meetings and handling registration matters. He told the

committee that Ferrie was an instructor at the Moisant CAP meetings

during this period.  Ferrie had taken him on his first airplane flight

and kept his small private plane in a hangar at the Moisant Airport.

Atzenhoffer recalled attending a party with Ferrie and other CAP cadets

during that period; the party may have been at Ferrie's house. He also

recalled that Ferrie once tried to recruit his CAP cadets in the

squadron to participate in some kind of medical experiment.

Additionally, Atzenhoffer told the committee that Oswald was active in

the CAP unit during the period.  He recalled Oswald's membership in the

squadron and described him as being a quiet young man. He could not,

however, remember any specific details regarding Oswald's participation

in the unit or specific contact between Oswald and Ferrie, although he

believed both were involved in the CAP unit at the same time.

Atzenhoffer stated: "I can't recall seeing the two of them together. I

don't have that detailed of a memory. But I'm sure they were there

together at the same time."  Atzenhoffer said that he could not recall

any more specific information and added: "I can't say that I know

anything about Ferrie and Oswald being together anywhere else, except at

the CAP meetings."

The committee also interviewed George Boesch, another former CAP member

in New Orleans who worked with Ferrie during that period.  Boesch, now a

member of the New Orleans Fire department, had worked with Ferrie in the

New Orleans Lakefront Airport squadron of the CAP. He once accompanied

Ferrie to a national competition match of the CAP and had traveled with

him elsewhere.  He, too., recalled Ferrie as highly intelligent and of

good moral character, a man devoted to teaching flying to young men.

Boesch told the committee that he accompanied Ferrie when Ferrie left

the Lakefront squadron and began teaching the CAP squadron at Moisant

Airport.  He and Ferrie helped reorganize the Moisant CAP program, which

by then also included female cadets.  Boesch also remembered Lee Oswald

attending the CAP meetings at Moisant during the period when he and

Ferrie were there.  He could recall Oswald being there for 2 to 3 months

while Ferrie was the instructor.  Boesch stated that there were usually

not more than 15 cadets at these CAP meetings and that Oswald was

relatively quiet. Boesch did not recall anything in particular about the

relationship between Oswald and Ferrie, anything unusual; he did not

know of any other contact between them. Boesch stated that he was not

familiar with Ferrie's personal life and was unaware of his activities

outside the CAP.

The committee also interviewed Jerry Paradis, the former recruit

instructor of the New Orleans Lakefront CAP unit.  In confirming that

Oswald had attended the Lakefront squadron meetings (in addition to the

Moisant CAP meetings), Paradis corroborated the accounts of other Oswald

colleagues in the CAP.  Paradis, now a corporate attorney, told the

committee that Oswald attended the Lakefront CAP meetings for several

weeks or several months.  During the period that he had served as

recruit instructor, Paradis could recall that Oswald came to "at least

10 or 15 meetings," attending the CAP sessions "quite a few times."

Oswald was a quiet person and rarely discussed anything with him other

than CAP business and instructions.

Interestingly, when Ferrie was interviewed by FBI agents on November

25, 1963, in the aftermath of President Kennedy's murder, he recommended

Paradis as a CAP member who would be able to verify whether Oswald had

ever been involved in the CAP unit headed by Ferrie.  Ferrie told the

FBI agents that he had never known Oswald and that other witnesses could

confirm that Oswald had never attended CAP meetings during the period

that Ferrie was active with the group. According to the report of his

FBI interview, Ferrie stated that "during the period he was commander of

the squadron, Jerry C. Paradis was the recruit instructor and took all

the squadron recruits through their training?  Ferrie supplied the

Bureau with the home and business addresses of Paradis, so as to aid the

agents in interviewing him.

In his interview with the committee on December 15, 1978, Paradis

stated that he had never been contacted or interviewed by, the FBI about

his past involvement in the CAP with Oswald and Ferrie. He also stated

that no other investigators had ever interviewed him.  Paradis told the

committee that Oswald had attended numerous CAP meetings at which Ferrie

had been the instructor. Ferrie "was always there" during the period in

which Oswald attended the Lakefront squadron. Paradis repeated that he

believed there were "at least 10 or 15 meetings" during which Oswald and

Ferrie were present.  He told the committee, "Oswald and Ferrie were in

the unit together. I know they were there because I was there."

Further, "I specifically remember Oswald. I can remember him clearly,

and Ferrie was heading the unit then. I'm not saying that they may have

been there together, I'm saying it is a certainty."  Paradis noted that

he and Ferrie were good friends and he had always respected Ferrie, even

though Ferrie was somewhat "unusual."  Paradis stated that he had no

knowledge of any relationship between Oswald and Ferrie outside of the

CAP meetings and did not recall anything unusual about their contact at

the meetings.. He recalled that Ferrie was a "fairly stern, but

generally likable" instructor.  Paradis also stated that Ferrie and

others from the Lakefront CAP unit sometimes participated in the Moisant

CAP squadron meetings and that Ferrie later left the Lakefront unit to

instruct at Moisant full-time. Paradis recalled that he had been

surprised that he was not interviewed by the FBI following the

President's assassination, stating, "I sure could have told them when

Oswald and Ferrie were in the CAP. I could have given them what they

wanted?'  Paradis further told the committee that he did not believe the

personal contact between Ferrie and Oswald "mean[t] anything really,"

and that he never believed that Ferrie "was a bad guy or anything like

that."

Gary Mack informed me that indeed, Wray's The secretary was interviewed and that report is in CD75, pp. 213 & 220. He also informed me that Weisberg and Lane and many others investigated that and determined that Ferrie was in New Orleans at the time that Kennedy was assassinated.

Does anyone have the docuemtn concerning the interview with the Secretary, Alice Guidroz?

http://www.jfk-online.com/dbdfrubyfile.html

Richard Billings checked this story with the source, Bob Mulholland, and wrote on Februaury 14, 1967: "Mulholland said he did not speak to anyone in Dallas as he was busy with the NBC crew. He recalled that he probably heard [the Ferrie story] from John Corporan of NBC News in New Orleans." Corporan told Billings "We got an anonymous tip and one from a former assistant DA [probably Kohlman] about this man who had an airplane and that this man was in Texas on Nov. 22. This man, Ferrie, had known Oswald in the Civil Air Patrol. He was probably a homosexual. There was something about a rendezvous having been arranged to fly Oswald out of the country." Billings continues: "Corporan says he then called Garrison to find out about the tip. 'I didn't have too much success'. He then called Mulholland in Dallas...On Monday Ferrie called Corporan...Ferrie convinced Corporan that 'someone had very cleverly linked Ferrie to Oswald, knowing it looked believable. Ferrie was very upset.'"

Historically speaking, it would appear that the tipster was Suggs, aka Jack Martin, whose character was not of the highest caliber. But that tip is very interesting.

Had Oswald managed to escape to Cuba...
I love that line.

Is there anyway to get the records of all flights into all airports surrounding Dallas/Fort Worth and the Houston area on 11/22/63? Or are these records impossible to obtain.

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The rifles were:

4  1903 Model Springfield rifles, serials 319961, 1371173, 367239, 803168

2  .22 calibre rifles

1  English rifle, serial 7/47 AB 5633

1  flare gun, serial 3971

1  .38 calibre revolver

1  sword

a quantity of ammunition

Ferrie said the firearms were purchased at Crescent Gun Shop in 1959 for the New Orleans Cadet Rifle Club. He said the flare gun was given to him by the CAP in Cleveland.

One of the devices mentioned may have been a Morse Code key with an amplifier and power supply. Ferrie said he needed this to maintain proficiency in MC as a pilot, and he apparently taught it to some of his CAP boys.

One of those boys does recall Ferrie having posession of a set of field telephones and using them in CAP and "IMSU" work.

What was the source of the list you posted?

Thanks Stephen!

Mae Brussell.com site - excerpts from Paris Flammonde's book The Kennedy Conspiracy An Uncommissioned Report on the Jim Garrison Investigation

Among Ferrie's final possessions were found four rifles, an assortment of shotgun shells and .22 rifle blanks, a radio transmitter tuning unit, two Signal Corps field telephones, a 100-pound aerial-type practice bomb and—a sword.

Morse code - Three short notes and one long? B)

(96) Ibid., FBI report. Aug. 22, 1961. Note: It was also reported that Ferrie had applied for a visa to Venezuela on Nov. 15, 1961, which request was denied. Ferrie had also applied for a passport. His purpose is unknown. FAA, vol.5, attachment QQ.

(97) Ibid. The submarines were found in a Sept. 22, 1961 search of Ferrie's house. Also discovered among Ferrie's effects were: a Morse code key, four model 1903 Springfield rifles, two .22 caliber rifles, one rifle, a flare gun, .38 caliber revolver, a sword, a quantitiy of ammunition, three maps (of Havana Harbor, the coast of Cuba, West Indies, Cuba and North Coast), plus the two submarines. FAA, vol.4, attachments F through I. Ferrie said he purchased the guns at the Crescent Gun Shop, New Orleans.

That sounds like it was a search that was done years earlier?

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Is there anyway to get the records of all flights into all airports surrounding Dallas/Fort Worth and the Houston area on 11/22/63?  Or are these records impossible to obtain.

I tried to track the airport logs at Dallas Executive Airport, the former Red Bird Airport. I was informed that the Garland logs were contained in a box there, as well as the old Red Bird logs. I requested help from the airport manager and assistant manager, and was assured they would look into the matter. No response....

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Hello Tim.

I would almost place odds that the records from 11/22/63 were destroyed as a matter of routine - that they disappeared - or that they were burned in a fire. But best to maintain a positive attitude.

It would be interesting to know if a Fairchild C-119G-FA Flying Boxcar was at any of the surrounding airports and left around 1:00 - 1:30pm that afternoon.

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A fantastic article by Gaeton Fonzi.

The day after marcello's trial started, November 5, Ferrie purchased a .38 caliber revolver.

1961 search:

(97) Ibid. The submarines were found in a Sept. 22, 1961 search of Ferrie's house. Also discovered among Ferrie's effects were: a Morse code key, four model 1903 Springfield rifles, two .22 caliber rifles, one rifle, a flare gun, .38 caliber revolver, a sword, a quantitiy of ammunition, three maps (of Havana Harbor, the coast of Cuba, West Indies, Cuba and North Coast), plus the two submarines. FAA, vol.4, attachments F through I. Ferrie said he purchased the guns at the Crescent Gun Shop, New Orleans.

1967 final effects:

Among Ferrie's final possessions were found four rifles, an assortment of shotgun shells and .22 rifle blanks, a radio transmitter tuning unit, two Signal Corps field telephones, a 100-pound aerial-type practice bomb and—a sword.

That's 3 missing rifles and one missing .38 caliber revolver.

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XII. DAVID FERRIE

In connection with its investigation of anti-Castro Cuban groups, the committee examined the activities of David William Ferrie, an alleged associate of Lee Harvey Oswald. Among other contentions, it had been charged that Ferrie was involved with at least one militant group of Cuban exiles and that he had made flights into Cuba in support of their counterrevolutionary activities there.

On Monday afternoon, November 25, 1963, Ferrie, Moreover, voluntarily presented himself for questioning to the New Orleans police, who had been looking for him in connection with the assassination of President Kennedy.(1) The New Orleans district attorney's office had earlier received information regarding a relationship between Ferrie and accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald,(2) including allegations that: Ferrie may have been acquainted with Oswald since Oswald's days in the Civil Air Patrol youth organization in 1954-55, Ferrie may have given Oswald instruction in the use of a rifle and may have hypnotized Oswald to shoot the President, and that Ferrie was in Texas on the day of the assassination and may have been Oswald's getaway pilot.(3)

Ferrie denied all the contentions, stating that at the time of the Presiden's assassination, he had been in New Orleans, busy with court matters for organized crime figure Carlos Marcello, who had been acquitted of immigration-related charges that same day.(4) Other individuals, including Marcello, marcello's lawyer, the lawyer's secretary, and FBI agent Regis Kennedy, supported Ferrie's alibi.(5)

Ferrie also gave a detailed account of his whereabouts for the period from the evening of November 22, 1963, until his appearance at the New Orleans police station.(6) Interviews of Ferie's associates and the results of a field investigation verified Ferrie's statements.(7)

Ferrie's assertion that his Stinson Voyager airplane could not be flown at the time of the assassination was later verified by the FBI.(8) Jack martin, a New Orleans private detective and colleague of Ferrie, who had originally mentioned Ferrie to New Orleans officials, subsequently informed authorities he had no specific information to support his allegations.(9) Thus, the FBI and the Warren Commission concluded that the stories relating to an Oswald-Ferrie relationship were unfounded.

Ferrie died in 1967, shortly after New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison announced he was reopening the Kennedy probe and was interested in Ferrie's activities in 1963. While there was much speculation that his death may have been suicide, the New Orleans coroner determined the death was a result of natural causes.(10) Nevertheless, this further fueled suspicion about his activities.

The committee determined that Ferrie's activities during the months prior to the assassination of President Kennedy warranted examination. The committee was particularly concerned about the possiblity of a relationship between Oswald and Ferrie. Several parallels in the lives of the two emerged:complex personality and political beliefs; difficulty in achieving normal social adjustment; and a pattern of visiting the same locality at the same time, and engaging in similar activities.

A detailed record of Ferrie's life and associates is currently available. The committee examined FBI and Secret Service investigative reports generated immediately after the assassination and FBI and INS reports from before and after the assassination; it received information developed during the 1967-68 Garrison investigation; and it examined the files of the extensive investigation of Ferrie conducted by the Federal Aviation Administration, Eastern Airlines, and the New Orleans police from 1961 to 1963, an investigation that was the result of criminal charges against Ferrie filed in 1961. Additionally, the committee conducted its own field investigation.

Ferrie was born in 1918 in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of James Howard Ferrie, a police captain and an attorney.(11) Ferrie attended parochial grammar and high schools.(12) Although there are no indications that his childhood was anything but normal, numerous acquaintances and associates of Ferrie reveal that he grew to be a complex, even bizarre, individual. One aptly stated, "Not inappropriately, he(Ferrie) was described as a paradox."(13)

His unusual personal appearance was partially a result of the loss of his body hair induced by a rare disease.(14) He wore a makeshift toupee and exaggerated fake eyebrows affixed crudely with glue as compensation.(15) Persons who knew him considered him sloppy and unkept, with a proclivity for foul language.(16)

Ferrie was often described as "very aggressive" and "highly obnoxious."(17) He resented authority,(18) was opinionated, and often difficult to get along with.(19) Yet he was able to exert tremendous influence over his close associates, including many young men in his Civil Air Patrol squadron.(20)

Several of Ferrie's associates indicate he was a homosexual and a misogynist.(21) His sexual exploitation of younger men would eventually cause him numerous problems.

Although his formal education was not extensive, Ferrie was considered highly intelligent, even brilliant.(22) He had originally studied theology in the hope of becoming an ordained priest, but he left seminary school before graduation because of "emotional instability."(23) Later, in 1941, he received a bachelor of arts degree from Baldwin-Wallace College,(24) majoring in philosophy.(25) He also received, through a correspondence course, a doctorate degree in psychology from an unaccredited school, Phoenix University, Bari,Italy.(26) In August 1957, he traveled to Italy to take the final board exam.(27)

Ferrie spent considerable time studying medicine and psychology,(28) especially the techniques of hypnosis which he frequently practiced on his young associates.(29) Ferrie had even set up a labora-ory over his garage,(30) where he claimed he lost his hair, alternately attributing it to a radiation experiment, chemical explosion, and cancer research experiments.(31) He listed his name in the telephone book as "Dr." David Ferrie;(32) many friends did erroneously believe he was a medical doctor and a psychologist.(33) This veneer of respectability and achievement could be the reason Ferrie referred to his Ph.D. degree as his "most prized possession."(34)

Ferrie was also philosphically and politically complex. He considered himself a devout Catholic,(35) and made several attempts to become a priest,(36) even though he described himself as a "theological liberal."(37) He also claimed to be liberal in his civil rights attitude.(38) He was rabidly anti-Communist,(39) however, and frequently critical of each Presidential administration for what he perceived to be sell-outs to communism.(40)

Ferrie often spoke to business and civic groups about politics.(41) Ferrie associates told FBI agents in 1961 that Ferrie had been "critical of the Roosevelt administration * * * (as it) was trying to drive us into communism."(42) Associates also said Ferrie "was also critical of the Truman administration for the same reason."(43)

Ferrie was asked to discontinue his remarks at a speaking engagement in July 1961 before the New Orleans chapter of the Military Order of World Wars.(44) His topic was the Presidential administration and the Bay of Pigs fiasco.(45) The organization put a stop to Ferrie's remarks when he became too critical of President Kennedy.(46)

He apparently expressed his views to anyone who would listen. During an interview with an IRS auditor in 1960, Ferrie was "outspoken" in his derogatory comments about the United States.(47) He complained bitterly about his alleged tax persectuion to such an extent that the agent reported he thought Ferrie was actually deranged, a "psycho."(48)

Ferrie's major avocation and occupation was flying. Even associates who were critical of Ferrie's character considered him an excellent pilot.(49) An early acquaintance believes that Ferrie first started to fly at his father's suggestion to take his mind off of his failures at the seminary.(50) He took lessons at Sky Tech Airway Service in Cleveland, Ohio, between 1942 and 1945.(51) He then worked as a pilot for an oil drilling firm which had jobs in South America. (52) When the company went out of business, Ferrie tried teaching at Rocky River High School,(53) but he was fired in 1948 for psychoanalyzing his students instead of teaching them.(54)

In 1949, Ferrie left the Cleveland area after rumors, that he had taken several young boys to a house of prostitution, circulated through his neighborhood.(55) Although Ferrie's exact movements are not known, it appears he had gone to Tampa, Fla., where he received his instrument rating at Sunnyside Flying School.(56)

In 1950, Ferrie returned to Cleveland. He worked as an insurance inspector,(57) and joined the Army Reserve for a 3-year stint, leaving with an honorable discharge in 1953.(58)

Life started going well for Ferrie. In 1951, he submitted an application to Eastern Airlines, omitting details of his past emotional and occupational difficulties.(59) Eastern Airlines hired him in Miami, and soon transferred him to New Orleans.(60)

Internal Eastern Airlines memoranda indicated Ferrie was accepted for employment, but consideration was given to firing him almost immediately for falsifying parts of his application.(61) The New Orleans branch was advised to keep Ferrie only until a replacement could be found and a "close watch" on Ferrie's progress was recommended.(62) Initial reports, however, were favorable.(63) Ferrie was considered by his fellow pilots to be doing a good job, although he was "odd" at times.(64) Eastern decided to retain him.

Ferrie approached his job enthusiastically, devoting his own time to talking at schools and clubs to promote interest in aviation and travel in the Southwest area.(65) In 1953, the president of Eastern wrote him a letter personally commending Ferrie's efforts on behalf of the company.(66) This early record of dedication and competence may have accounted for Ferrie's longevity as an Eastern Airlines captain, despite complaints through the years.(67) Ultimately, the infractions became too serious, and, after a long investigation and a hearing process that lasted from 1961 until 1963, Ferrielost his job.

Ferrie had always been engrossed in activities related to flying, including the Civil Air Patrol, which he had first joined in Cleveland.(68) Over the years, his difficulties with the hierarchy and authorities of the Civil Air Patrol would increase, but Ferrie remained intensely popular with many of the members and enjoyed a reputation as a first rate instructor and organizer.(69) Jean Naatz, an aviatrix of national renown, stated, "He had done more for the Civil Air Patrol than anyone else and built up the squadron to one of the biggest squadrons in the State of Ohio."(70)

Ferrie also built the same reputation with many CAP cadets in the New Orleans area. One CAP commander said, "David Ferrie is a good organizer * * * he made the CAP at the New Orleans Airport everything it is today. He has a large following among the cadets of the CAP, and is an excellent flying instructor."(71) By 1953, there were about 80 cadets assigned to his squadron.(72) Ferrie spent about 6 hours a week in official CAP activity and much of his own time associating with his cadets.(73) Ferrie became known for his enthusiastic approach to cadet training, emphasizing tutoring in science and mathematics and putting cadets in charge of their own discipline.(74) Thesquadron had an award-winning drill team.(75)

His appeal to several young men may have been related to his taking an extraordinary interest in them: he gave them flying instruction and flight time in his own airplane;(76) he often gave parties at his residence where liquor flowed freely;(77) and he offered his home as a place for the boys to stay when they were unhappy at home.(78) He urged several boys to join the armed forces,(79) to begin careers in aviation,(80) or to join seminaries.(81) Many of Ferrie's cadets became involved in Ferrie's wide spectrum of other activities.(82)

Ferrie's tremendous influence and close assocaition with these young men eventually became a controversial subject with many parents.(83)

Ferrie did not bother to renew his CAP commander charter when it ran out in 1954,(84) although he continued to wear the insignia of the CAP on his fatigues.(85) He did renew his commander charter in 1959, when he augmented his cadet's standard CAP rifle training by instituting an association with the New Orleans Cadet Rifle Club.(86) Ferrie also started a group called the "Falcon Squadron," comosed of Ferrie's closest CAP associates.(87) A group within this group, the "Omnipotents," was allegedly started to train cadets in what to do in the event of a major attack on the United States.(88)

Ferrie's job and ownership of an airplane enabled him to travel around the country with relative ease. He told officials he frequently traveled to Texas and other parts of the South, including Miami.(89) He also visited New York on occasion.(90) The amount of time Ferrie spent in these other cities could not be determined. In August 1959, while in Miami, Ferrie was put under a 24-hour surveillance by customs agents who believed he was involved in gun smuggling.(91) Following a brief investigation, including a tapping of his telephone conversations, it was determined that Ferrie was not involved in any illegal activity, but merely planning an outing for his "scouts".(92) Theinvestigation was dropped.(93)

Ferrie also became involved in other activities. In 1959, he had found an outlet for his political fanaticism in the anti-Castro movement.(94) By early 1961, Ferrie and a young man whom Ferrie had first met in the CAP, Layton Martens, were working with Sergio Arcacha Smith, head of the Cuban Revolutionary Front delegation in New Orleans.(95)

Ferrie soon became Smith's eager partner in counterrevolutionary activities.(96) He reportedly built two miniature submarines, which he planned to use for an attack on Havana Harbor,(97) obtained several rifles and mortars for the proposed invasion,(98) and was reportedly teaching Cubans how to fly.(99) Further, several of Ferrie's cadets claimed to have taken trips to Cuba in Ferrie's airplane.(100)

Ferrie was also involved with Arcacha Smith, adventurer Gordon Novel and Layton Martens in a raid on a munitions dump in Houma, La.(101) In September 1961, the U.S. border patrol received information that Ferrie was attempting to purchase a C-47 airplane for $30,000 and reportedly had a cache of arms in the New Orleans area.(102) The report was never verified. There were also unverified reports that Ferrie provided Arcacha Smith with personal financial assistance.(103)

Arcacha Smith wrote Eastern Airlines then-president Eddie Rickenbacker on Ferrie's behalf requesting a 60- or 90-day leave with pay for full-time work for the CRC. The request was denied.(104) Nevertheless, Ferrie's vacation in April 1961 coincided with the Bay of Pigs invasion.(105) Ferrie's role, if any, is not known.

The CRC in New Orleans was affiliated with the main branch of the CRC in Miami, which had been receiving funds from the U.S. Government.(106) Some of these funds may have been disseminated to the New Orleans branch to cover operating costs. Nevertheless, there is no evidence Ferrie received funds from either the CRC or the U.S. Government and no evidence that Ferrie was connected in any way with the U.S. Government.(107) Ferrie's assistance and interest appears to have been completely voluntary.

During this time Ferrie had continued to have personal problems. In 1960, he had provoked the ire of other CAP commanders while on a cadet campout.(108) The incident ended with Ferrie withdrawing his cadets from the outing and eventually led to his permanent resignation from the CAP in 1960.(109)

Ferrie's troubles intensified when charges were brought against him by parents of boys who had run away from home.(110) In one instance, Ferrie had gained entrance to the New Orleans Detention Center to visit one runaway boy by signing himself in as a doctor.(111)

The parents of another boy complained to authorities that their son was staying with Ferrie.(112) As a result, Ferrie was arrested on August 8, 1961 for contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile.(113)

Cuban exile leader Arcacha Smith* intervened on Ferrie's behalf by telling police that the boy would be returned to his parents if they did not press charges against Ferrie.(114)

But Ferrie was arrested again on August 11, 1961, for crime against nature on a 15-year-old boy and indecent behavior with three others.(115)

An intensive New Orleans police investigation of the charges against Ferrie produced statements from several boys that Ferrie had committed indecent acts with them.(117) The boys also told investigators Ferrie had told them he had had homosexual relations with a married man in Houston.(118) On August 26, Eastern Airlines removed him from the payroll for an indefinite period (119) and the Federal Aviation Administration then opened its own investigation into the charges.(120)

With his problems mounting, Ferrie sought legal aid from New Orleans attorney G. Wray Gill, Sr.(121) Ferrie later testified that he and Gill had entered into an agreement in March 1962 that Gill would represent Ferrie in his legal difficulties in return for Ferrie's research and investigative work on other cases for Gill.(122)

Ferrie also testified that he also entered into a similar arrangement in February 1962 with Guy Banister,(123) a former FBI agent who ran a private investigative firm.(124) By the terms of the agreement, Ferrie's work for Banister included analyzing autopsy reports in payment for Banister's investigative services.(125) Banister stated he handled Ferrie's case "personally".(126)

Ferrie may have first met Banister late in 1960 or early 1961 when Banister, also a strong anti-Communist, was helping to establish the "Friends of Democratic Cuba" organization as an adjunct to Sergio Arcacha Smith's CRC.(127) At the time, Banister's investigative business and the CRC were both located in the Balter Building.(128) In February 1961, Banister was conducting background investigations of the members of the CRC from a list provided by Arcache Smith.(129) In early 1962, both moved their offices to the NewmanBuilding, which carried the two addresses for the two streets it faced: 531 Lafayette and 544 Camp Street.(131)

Jack Martin, a private investigator associated with Banister,(132) may also have been contacted by Ferrie for assistance on his case. Ferrie testified in August 1963 that he had helped Martin on a case involving a phony religious order in Louisville, Ky., in November 1961.(133) Later, Martin wrote letters to the FAA and Eastern Airlines on Ferrie's behalf.(134)

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*Arcacha Smith was having problems of his own. He had moved the office of the CRC to the Newman Building at 544 Camp Street in 1962, but lack of funds caused him to leave town in mid-1962, his reputation among anti-Castro Cubans tarnished by his assocaition with Ferrie. He was also accused by several Cuban exiles of misappropriation of funds.

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With this assistance, Ferrie was able to resolve many of his difficulties. At the end of February 1962, Ferrie was tried and acquitted of the charges of extortion.(135) The other charges were nolle prosequied in November 1962.(136)

Ferrie managed to stay afloat financially despite his loss of income from Eastern Airlines in 1961. Although he was categorized as a "poor" credit risk in October 1962 by the New Orleans Retail Credit Bureau,(137) Ferrie made payments on his car(138) and met living expenses.

Meanwhile, he was also attempting to be reinstated as an Eastern pilot. Attorney G. Wray Gill notified Eastern when the last of the charges against Ferrie had been nolle prosequied;(139) Eastern responded with a letter inviting Ferrie to discuss the charges at a meeting in Miami.(140) Ferrie did not go.(141) Instead, several individuals, including one of the boys who had been name din a sex offense charge against him,(142) wrote to Eastern to plead that Ferrie be reinstated.(143) Ferrie also filed a "grievance" against East-ern.(144) Then, in February 1963, he went to Miami with attorney Gill for the hearing regarding his dismissal.(145) Eastern ruled against him;(146) Ferrie filed another grievance.(147)

Hearing dates were scheduled and rescheduled.(148) During this period, Ferrie was often seen at Banister's offices in 544 Camp Street(149) as he prepared his case.

Ferrie's final grievance hearing was set for July 15, 1963, in Miami.(150) Ferrie, Gill and Banister were in Miami on July 15, 16, and 17 while Eastern Airlines presented its case against Ferrie.(151) The record of these hearings reveals that the company's charges were based on Ferrie's deliberate omissions and inaccuracies in his original application to the company; charges of Ferrie's moral turpitude; and his having misrepresented himself as a medical doctor and psychologist.(152)

The hearings were resumed on August 5.(153) Testifying in Ferrie's defense were former CAP cadet, John Irion; Ferrie's long-time friend, James Lewallen; Ferrie's investigator, Guy Banister; and Ferrie himself.(154) Layton Martens provided a sworn deposition in defense of Ferrie's character.(155) Banister testified to Ferrie's good character supposedly based on his own investigation of Ferrie.(156)

In cross-examination, Banister could not rationalize to the satisfaction of the hearing board the reasons for Ferrie's vituperative remarks in 1961 against President Kennedy(157) nor could he adequately explain Ferrie's involvement with a questionable church group.(158)

On September 30, Ferrie received the final decision from the Eastern appeal board:(159) it unanimously upheld his discharge.(160)

By the fall of 1963, Ferrie had become actively involved in the defense investigation of Federal charges of a fraudulent birth certificate against Carlos Marcello an alleged organized crime leader in New Orleans.(161) Ties to Marcello continued through Ferrie's lifetime. As late as 1966, 6 months prior to his death, Ferrie was working with known Marcello associate, Jacob Nastasi, in an aircargo service. (162) According to information developed during an FBI antiracketeering investigation of Nastasi, Ferrie had previously worked with Marcello associates in another airline company known as United Air Taxi Service.(163) Ferrie's involvement with Marcello may have begun as early as the spring of 1961.(164) An unconfirmed Border Patrol report of February 1962 alleges that Ferrie was the pilot who flew Carlos Marcello back into the United States from Guatemala after he had been deported in April 1961 as part of the U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy's crackdown on organizedcrime.(165) This may have helped Ferrie establish an enduring relationship with the Marcello organized crime family.

The return of Marcello to the United States coincided chronologically with Ferrie's activities with the Cuban Revolutionary Counsel.(166) According to Carlos Quiroga, a Cuban who had been involved with the CRC, Ferrie often provided Arcacha Smith with funds(167) stating, "Ferrie lent him(Arcacha Smith) money when he needed it for his family . . . He (Ferrie) had $100 bills around all the time," even after he had lost his job with the airlines.(168)

An FBI report of April 1961 indicated Marcello offered Arcacha Smith a deal whereby Marcello would make a substantial donation to the movement in return for concessions in Cuba after Castro's overthrow.(169) One explanation of Ferrie's ability to provide funds to Arcacha Smith may be that he acted as Marcello's financial conduit.

Another indication of any early Ferrie relationship with the Marcello organized crime family may be the legal assistance that Marcello's lawyer, Jack Wasserman,(170) provided to Ferrie associates, Layton Martens, who identified himself to police as Arcacha Smith's second-in-command,(171) and Andrew Blackmon.(172) Both had been arrested shortly after Ferrie's arrest for indecent behavior.(173)

Ferrie's ties to the Marcello organized crime family continued through his association with G. Wray Gill, Sr., who was also attorney of record for Carlos Marcello.(174)

Ferrie told the FBI that he had begun work on Marcello's case after his last Eastern grievance hearing.(175) In telling the Bureau about his work for Marcello, however, he mentioned only activities in October and November.(176)

Ferrie said he went to Guatemala on business for Marcello from October 11 to October 18 and from October 30 to November 1.(177) The day after marcello's trial started, November 5, Ferrie purchased a .38 caiber revolver.(178) On the weekends of November 9 and 16, Ferrie stayed at Churchill Farms, Marcello's Louisiana countryside estate.(179) He said he had gone there to map out strategy for Marcello's trial.(180)

New Orleans police records for November 22, 1963, indicate that Guy Banister pistol-whipped Jack Martin on the evening of the assassination in a heated argument over "long-distance telephone calls."(181) Although Marin reported the assault to the police, he refused to press charges against Banister.(182) Within 48 hours, however, Martin had the entire New Orleans police department hunting for David Ferrie.(183) He told the police that Ferrie may have been involved in the Kennedy assassination.(184) Specifically, he suspected, that Ferrie was in Texas on the day of the assassination; that he was supposed to have been the getaway pilot in the assassination; and that Ferrie had known Oswald from their days together in the Civil Air Patrol, when Ferrie had given Oswald instructions in the use of a rifle.(185)

In an attempt to locate Ferrie for questioning, police arrested two Ferrie associates, Layton Martens and Alvin Beauboeuf, at Ferrie's residence and charged then with vagrancy.(186) While Beauboeuf was uncooperative during the questioning,(187) Martens was more talkative.(188) He said Gill had come by to relay a message to Ferrie that his library card was found among Oswald's effects.(189) Martens' story was unsubstantiated.

Ferrie returned to New Orleans on the afternoon of November 25.(190) He and attorney Gill appeared at the district attorney's office around 4:30 p.m.(191) He was questioned by the New Orleans police, the U.S. Secret Service, and the FBI.(192) He denied ever seeing Oswald before.(193)

Ferrie also said that he had been in New Orleans until at least 9 p.m. on November 22, celebrating Marcello's trial victory at the Royal Orleans.(194) He said he then left the city with two friends for some rest and relaxation.(195)

Ferrie's account of his travels between November 22 and November 25 contained some contrdictions. Ferrie said he left New Orleans by automobile, bound for Houston and accompanied by Melvin Coffey and Al Beauboeuf.(196) The group checked in at the Alamotel early on November 23.(197) That date on the motel registrationcard was written over a November 22 notation.(198) The motel employee said that was because of the early morning hour of the checking, however, and that he was certain the correct date was the 23d.(199)

On the afternoon of November 23, Ferrie said he, Beauboeuf, and Coffey went figure skating at the Winterland Skating Rink.(200) The three then went to the Belair Skating Rink(201) before driving 1 hour to Galveston, Tex., where they arrived at 9 p.m. and a short time later, checked into the Driftwood Motel.(202)

Checkin and checkout times for the Houston and Galveston hotels conflict. Alamotel records in Houston indicate that Ferrie and his friends checked into the hotel early on November 23 and did not leave until 8 or 9 p.m. on November 24.(203) Yet the registration records and witnesses at the Driftwood in Galveston show the three registered late on November 23 and checked out at 10 a.m. on November 24.(204)

Records from the motels indicate the group made a number of phone calls.(205) Two calls made from the Alamotel went to radio stations WSHO and WDSH in New Orleans.(206) A collect call went to the Town and Country Motel, Marcello's New Orleans headquarters.(207)

Evidence indicated that Ferrie conducted his own investigation into the Kennedy assassination. Oswald's former landlady in New Orleans, Mrs. Jesse Garner, told the committee she recalled that Ferrie visited her home on the night of the assassination and asked about Oswald's library card.(208) Mrs. Garner would not talk to Ferrie.(209)

A neighbor of Oswald's, Mrs. Doris Eames, told New Orleans district attorney investigators in 1968 that Ferrie had come by her house after the assassination, inquiring if Mr. Eames had any information regarding Oswald's library card. Eames told Ferrie he had seen Oswald in the public library but apparently had no information about the library card Oswald used.(210)

Ferrie also talked with several former members of the Civil Air Patrol in an attempt to find out if any former cadets recalled Lee Harvey Oswald in Ferrie's squadron. Among those contacted was former cadet Roy McCoy, who told the FBI that Ferrie had come by looking for photographs of the cadets to see if Oswald was pictured in any photos of Ferrie's squadron.(211)

The implications of Ferrie's associations, his activities, and the allegations that Ferrie and Oswald had been seen together in Clinton,La., in the late summer, 1963, and were acquainted while both were active in the Civil Air Patrol in 1955, are discussed in the anti-Castro Cuban conspiracy and the organized crime conspiracy sections of the committee's report.

Submitted by:

GAETON J. FONZI,

Investigator.

PATRICIA M. ORR,

Researcher.

REFERENCES

(1) Memo from Sedgebeer to Giarmusso, New Orleans district attorney's office May 22, 1964, House Select Committee on Assassinations(J.F.K. Document 003840); see also New Orleans police report of Francis Martello, Nov. 25, 1963.

(2) FBI report, No.62-109060, interview of Jerry P. Stein, Nov. 25, 1963, p. 300); and FBI report, No.62-109060, interview of Jack S. Martin, Nov. 25, 1963 (p.309). Note: All FBI reports were obtained from file No.62-109060 unless otherwise specifically noted.

(3) Jack Martin letter to Robert Robey of FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, Nov. 25, 1963; FBI report, interview of Jack Martin, Nov. 25, 1963(p.309); and New Orleans police report, interview of Edward Voebel, Nov. 27,1963, FAA, vol.1 (J.F.K. Document 014964).

(4) FBI report, interview of David Ferrie, Nov. 26, 1963.

(5) Immunized testimony of Carlos Marcello, Jan. 11, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations, p.67; FBI report, interview of G. Wray Gill, Nov. 27, 1963; and FBI memo, May 18, 1967, No.62-109060-5255. Regis Kennedy, p. 2 Note: There are discrepancies about whether Ferrie was in the courthouse or in Gill's office on the day of the assassination. Marcello and Kennedy said Ferrie was in the courtroom (both statements were taken some years after the event). Gill said he knew Ferrie was in Gill's office at 12:15 p.m. on Nov. 22, 1963, because Gill had called his secretary at that time to tell her the federal jury had returned a verdict in favor of Marcello. Gill's secretary told Gill that Ferrie had left Gill's office at that time (12:15 p.m.) stating he would return at 1:30 p.m., which he failed to do. Gill's secretary, Aldic Guidroz, was not questioned as to Ferrie's whereabouts. Ferrie told the FBI he was in New Orleans "all day" on Nov. 11, 1963. The date, Nov. 11, may have been a typographical error meant to have been Nov. 22, 1963, since there is no significance to Nov. 11, 1963. See FBI report, Nov. 26, 1963, for interview with Ferrie. (6) FBI report, interview of David Ferrie, November 26, 1963.

(7) FBI report, interview of Melvin Coffey, November 20, 1973. Coffey told of trip planned since November 20, although he did not know the destination. He said Ferrie and Beauboeuf were particularly interested in ice skating, so they went to Houston.

(8) FBI report, interview of M. Coffey, November 30, 1963. Coffey said the plane had not been airworthy for some time. He last heard it was used February 1963:FBI report, interview of James Lewallen, November 27, 1963, p. 214; and FBI report, interview of David Ferrie, November 27, 1963, p.200 (Ferrie said the plane had not been airworthy since the spring of 1962). Note: While the evidence tends to show Ferrie's plane had not been in working order for some time, an FAA document indicated that Jack Martin believed Ferrie's Stinson was airworthy as of July 1963, or, at least, that a Stinson aircraft was available to Ferrie at that time. See memo to the file, July 18, 1963, FAA, vol. 1 HSCA (J.F.K. Document No. 014904).

(9) Secret Service Report No. CO-2-34, 030, December 13, 1963, p.5 (J.F.K. Document No. 014904); see also vol. 5, FAA news article, exhibit A, February 22,1967, Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

(10) Memo re: Autopsy of Ferrie from Jim Garrison to Jim Alcor (J.F.K. Document No. 003840); see also Newsweek, March 6, 1967, "Carnival in New Orleans" (file Ferrie, D.W.S.W.67.91) (J.F.K. Document No. 014904); see also Fort Worth Star-Telegram, February 23, 1967, "Death of Ferrie Stymies JFK Probe."

(11) FAA file, vol. 2, Southern Research Investigation, No. 11-N-224,January 25, 1963, p.10 (hereinafter SR-11-N-224 and date) (J.F.K. Document No.014904).

(12) Id. at p.23.

(13) Id. at pp.21 and 23.

(14) Ibid.; and Ibid., December 19, 1963, p. 20. A doctor who treated Ferrie said he suffered from "a disease causing emotional anxiety caused by nervous shock and thyroid deficiency."

(15) Ibid., SR November 19, 1962, p.10. (Meister said in an interview that Ferrie "wears a toupee, possibly self-mad.") FBI report, September 22, 1961, p. 5. Mrs. Nichols who knew of Ferrie said "he wears a wig." FAA, vol. 4, Robey report, p. 9, interview of Mr. T. W. Christiansen, p.10 and interview Col. Joseph G. Ehrlicker.

(16) Ibid., FAA, vol. 2, exhibit III, Statement of Cadet; FBI report, interview of Mrs. Dunn and Mrs. Nichols, September 22, 1961.

(17) See ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, November 19,1962, FAA, vol. 2, p.10, interview of Al Meister.

(18) Ibid., vol. 3, exhibit XX, Ferrie file from St. Charles Seminary, December 1, 1961. (Ferrie was described as "critical of authority," "careless about observing rules," "ignored authority," "indulges freely in criticism of his superiors"); see also FAA, vol.4, Robey report. p.10, interview of Col. Joseph G. Ehrlicker, "resented authority."

(19) Ibid., SR-1-N-224, November 19, 1962, FAA, vol.2, interview of George Piazza who told investigators "Ferrie is the type of individual who fancies himself an expert in all matters and, hence, believes himself infallible. To this end Ferrie would express his philosphical ideas in no uncertain terms." See also FAA, vol.III, exhibit XX, Ferrie file from St. Charles Seminary; FAA, vol.4, report of Robey,p.7. Rev. Francis B. Sullivan, professor of theology at St. Charles Seminary, feels Ferrie to be a "preconditioned psycho, impresses people by pretending to be an expert on everything, definitely has a talent for character assassination" (p.11). Douyear McGray called Ferrie "eccentric and dictatorial" (p.12). Al Meister described him as "officious and dictatorial."

(20) Ibid., FAA file, vol. 4, exhibit III, Statement of Cadet, Dec. 1, 1961. Ferrie seemed to "hold the cadets in the palm of his hand" (p.4). S. R. 11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1962,p.10, interview of Al Meister. He said Ferrie was very influential. Interview of Piazza. He said Ferrie "seemed to have a certain talent and background in the use of psychology and would use this as well as his philosophical ideas to influence some of the youths in the CAP squadron." See also interview of Bob Boyleston. Oct. 17,1978,House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. document No. 012865);FBI report, Oct. 30, 1961, "David William Ferrie," interview of John Harris, who said "Ferrie has a group of young boys whom he supports and controls completely;" FAA, vol.4, Robey report, p.9(J.F.K. document No. 014904), interview of Colonel Harry A. Webb: "I had ability to get affection of the cadets and that they would do almost anything for him."

(21) Ibid., SR 11-N-244, Nov. 19, 1962, p.10. Meister advised that he had heard through cadet sources "that subject is possibly a homosexual." and also that Ferrie "hated women;" FBI interview of A. Gifford. Nov. 25, 1963; FAA, vol.4, Robey Report, p. 11--Ferrie told Joseph Howard girls and women were no good and intellectually inferior to men, John Johnson said Ferrie thought women dense (J.F.K. document No. 014904).

(22) Ibid., SR 11-N-224, Jan. 25, 1963, p.16, Mrs. Jean Naatz; FBI report, Sept. 22, 1961, No. 105-104-340-3, p.4, interview of Joseph Lisman and interview of Mrs. Ruby Nichols, p.5.

(23) Ibid., SR-11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962, p.19, Ferrie was treated for emotional problems in 1944, FAA, vol. 2, letter of J.H.Ferrie to St. Charles Seminary.

(24) Id. at pp.18-19, FAA, vol.III, exhibit.

(25) Ibid., FAA, vol. III, exhibit, transcript of grades from Baldwin-Wallace College, Berea, Ohio, June 9, 1941; lists all courses.

(26) Synopsis of a Small Business Administration hearing, testimony of Ronald Hubner, Southern Research investigator, p.3 (J.F.K. Document No. 014930). See also vol. K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, EAL EXH No. 6, letter of Dec. 17, 1962, from U.S. Foreign Service to Mr. Risley, Southern Research (J.F.K. document No. 014904).

(27) SBA hearing, Ferrie testimony, synopsis, p.4 (J.F.K. document No. 014930).(Ferrie claims he also wrote a doctor's thesis for his degree on an aspect of the psychology of vision-the use of hypnotherapy in retinitis.)

(28) FAA, vol.4. Robert Robey Report, p. 11, John Johnson, Ferrie told them he had taken a premedical course, p.12 (J.F.K. Document No. 014904); Al Landry said Ferrie told him he was studying at Tulane University; Robert Morrell (FAA, vol.4, Robey Report, p.11) (Ferrie led people to believe he was studying medicine at Tulane University. Karl Koster said Ferrie told him he studied medicine. Ferrie also had a copy of a Ph.D. in psychology on his wall(p.15).

(29) SBA hearing, synopsis of testimony of John Irion(J.F.K. document No. 014930). FAA, vol. 4, Robey Report, p. 8, Edward W. Strubo advised Ferrie tried hypnosis on the students,p.10 (J.F.K. Document No. 014930); Robert E. Morrell said "he had seen David Ferrie use hypnosis."

(30) Interview of John Irion. Oct. 19, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations, p. 3 (J.F.K. document No. 012754); FAA, vol. 4, Robey Report, p. 8, FAA, vol. 4, report, Aug. 22, 1961, Jefferson Parish Police Department, Juvenile Division (J.F.K. document No. 014904).

(31) Ibid., FAA, vol. 4, Robey Report, p. 10. Robert Morrell said Ferrie claimed he lost his hair in an experiment with cancer serum. p. 12; Al Landry said Ferrie told him the loss was due to a chemical explosion; Landry's father was told it was due to radiation (p. 13); Larry C. Adams thought it had been "lost in a chemical experiment."

(32) Synopsis of SBA hearing, Dr. Isadore Yager, p. 2 (J.F.K. Document 014930), and of David Ferrie, pp. 4-5. Ferrie admitted using "Dr.," but for legitimate reasons. He claimed he had a Ph.D. degree from Phoenix University, Bari, Italy; vol. K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63-29-63, 48-63 (J.F.K. Document 014904) (EAL Exhibit 4a photocopy of telephone book with Ferrie listing).

(33) Ibid., FAA, vol. 2, exhibit III, statement of cadet-"he was believed to be a medical doctor and a doctor of philosophy"; SBA hearing, testimony of Dr. Isadore Yager, synopsis, p. 2 (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(34) Ibid., SBA hearing, Ferrie testimony synopsis, p. 4.

(35) FAA, vol. 2, exhibit III, p. 4 (J.F.K. Document 014904), statement of cadet-"Ferrie constantly preached to us on the subject of religion * * * insisted we attend church * * * and remember to pray."

(36) See SR-11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962 (J.F.K. Document 014904)-although Ferrie denies applying for ordainment to any church (SBA hearing, Ferrie testimony), he has shown such a desire since his youth. See FBI Report 51-109060-4595, Mar. 2, 1967, p. 1, interview of Carl John Stanley. "Archbishop of the Metropolitan Eastern Province, American Orthodox Catholic Church, told the FBI he consecrated Ferrie as bishop in July 1961 but deposed him in January 1962 when it was learned he had been discharged from his Eastern Airlines position because of homosexual activity." See also FAA, vol. 2, exhibit III, p. 4 (J.F.K. Document 014904), statement of cadet-"several times he (Ferrie) considered becoming a priest."

(37) SBA hearings, testimony of Ferrie synopsis, p. 4 (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(38) FBI report of SAE. Wall's and T. Viatel's interview of Ferrie, Nov. 27, 1963, 62-109060, supported Kennedy Civil Rights program.

(39) FAA, vol. 3 (J.F.K. Document 014904). Ferrie letter to Captain G. E. Greiner, Oct. 30, 1961, suggesting persecution of himself by Communists.

(40) FBI report, interview of Joseph Lisman, Sept. 22, 1961.

(41) Ibid.

(42) Ibid.

(43) Ibid.

(44) Vol. K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, EAL exhibit No. 7, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, title of talk-"Cuba"-April 1961 Present, Future (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(45) Ibid.

(46) Ibid.

(47) FBI report, Nov. 27, 1963, p.199, Ferrie later admitted that after the Bay of Pigs invasion, he severely criticized President John F. Kennedy, both in public and in private. He said he had also been critical of any President riding in an open car and had made the statement that anyone could hide in the bushes and shoot a President. He denied, however, ever making a statment that Kennedy should be killed with the intention that this be done. FAA, vol. 4, p.17, Robey report, interview of Charles Williams, IRS Agent (J.F.K. Docu-ment 014904).

(48) Ibid.

(49) Synopsis of SBA hearing, testimony of Cornelius Michael Kramer, p. 4 (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(50) See ref. 11, FAA, vol. 2, exhibit GGG, SR 11-N-224, Jan. 25, 1963, p.10 (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(51) Ibid., FAA, vol. 4, attachment J. Ferrie application for employment for Eastern Airlines, Apr. 6, 1951.

(52) Ibid., FAA, vol. 2, Jan. 25, 1963, p.15.

(53) Ibid., FAA, vol. 2, exhibit FFF, Dec. 19, 1962, p.20.

(54) Ibid.

(55) Id. at p.21.

(56) Ibid.

(57) Ibid., FAA, vol.2, exhibit GGG, Jan. 25, 1963, pp.13-14.

(58) Ibid., FAA, vol.3, exhibit SS, U.S. Civil Service Commission, report of record search, Sept. 29, 1961, for David Ferrie (gives military record).

(59) Ibid., vol. K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, No. 1563, 29-63, 48-63, legal brief of Eastern Airlines grievance of David W. Ferrie, pp.9-10.

(60) Ibid., vol. R, EAL file, Ferrie, D. W., personnel records, June 15, 1951, transferred to New Orleans "due to domicile preference."

(61) Ibid., FAA, vol.4, attachment L, memo from J. H. Halliburton to Captain J.F. Gill, May 23, 1951; Eastern Airlines received derogatory information from retail credit bureau, May 21, 1951.

(62) Ibid.; see also memo from J.F. Gill to Captain G. E. Thomas, June 26, 1951, attachment M; and memo from F.A. Stone to G.E. Thomas, July 5, 1951, attachment O.

(63) Ibid., FAA, vol.4, attachment Q; see also memo, July 13, 1951, from G. E. Thomas to Captain F. A. Stone-"I have had him with a couple of captains here and their reports are nothing but the best. They say he has excellent possibilities."

(64) Ibid., Attachment P, handwritten note from "George" to Captain John on memo from J.H. Halliburton to Captain G.E. Greiner, July 6, 1959.

(65) Ibid., FAA, vol.4, attachment T, memo, Mar. 19, 1959, A.T. Thornhill to Captain E. V. Rickenbacker.

(66) Ibid., FAA, vol. 4, attachment H, letter, E.V. Rickenbacker to D. W. Ferrie, May 23, 1953. Rickenbacker had noted to the file, "This man's efforts bear watching and his qualifications justify his being used and helped whenever possible in line of duty-and even beyond."

(67) Among the complaints against Ferrie: Ibid., FAA exhibit HHH, Sept. 7, 1960, letter to Ferrie from R. W. Tyler, acting regional counsel for Eastern, re: use of Ferrie's plane by student pilot carrying a passenger. Plane not properly certificated or registered; see ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1962, regarding allowing use of rider pass to George Piazza, who Ferrie claimed was his "ward"; see also FAA, vol. 3, exhibit EE; FAA, vol.3, exhibit II, memo to Captain P.L. Foster, Dec.19,1959, regarding a near miss of a mid-air collision, Nov. 24, 1959.

(68) Ibid., SR-11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962, exhibit FFF, p.21.

(69) FBI report No. 105-104-340-1, September 22, 1961, p.4.

(70) SR-11-N-224, Jan. 25, 1963, p.15 (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(70a) Ibid., FAA, vol. 3 exhibit YY, letter to Colonel D.H.Hass, Oct. 21, 1958, from Robert E. Morrell.

(71) FBI report No. 105-104-340-1, Sept. 22, 1961, p.4.

(72) FAA, vol.3, exhibit XX, letter, Oct. 21, 1958, Robert Morrell to Colonel D. Hass (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(73) FBI report No. 105-104-340-1, Sept. 22, 1961, p.4.

(74) Synopsis of SBA hearing, testimony of John Irion (J.F.K. Document

014930);FAA, vol.3, exhibit YY, letter, Oct. 21, 1978, from Robert Morrell to Colonel D.A. Hass(J.F.K. Document 014904).

(75) Ibid., FAA, vol. 4, Robey report, p.9, attachment XX, the CAP Drill Team once went to Dallas, according to Bob Boyleston (HSCA Interview, Oct. 18,1978). Ferrie made all the arrangements and appeared to have had contacts there. (Date of the alleged trip is unknown.) (J.F.K. Document 014904.)

(76) FAA, vol. 4, pp.14-15, Robey report, Interview of Ted Abernathy. He said flight instructions and flight time were forbidden to CAP cadets (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(77) Synopsis of SBA hearing, testimony of Ronald Hubner, synopsis p.3. (J.F.K. Document 014930); see also FAA, vol.2, exhibit III, statment of Cadet,p.2(J.F.K. Document 014904).

(78) Ibid., FAA, vol.2, exhibit III, statment of Cadet, p.2, Ferrie's house was a "center of operations for his group."

(79) Ibid., FAA, vol.4. Robey Report; p.10, interview of Robert Morrell.

(80) SBA hearing, Aug. 8, 1963, testimony of James R. Lewallen, p.8 (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(81) See ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1962, p.21 interview of Spontenelli (J.F.K. Document 014904); FAA, vol.2, exhibit III, statment of Cadet, p.6, Ferrie "encouraged the boys to become priests if they felt inclined in that direction." FAA, vol.4, Robey report. p.11, Father Ward, priest-Ferrie called him up and started sending him CAP members expressing a desire to go into the priesthood; p.13, Al Meister-Ferrie was instrumental in persuading him to go into the seminary.

(82) Contact report, Layton Martens, May 25, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 008629); see also (J.F.K. Document 003287).

(83) Synopsis of SBA hearings, testimony of John Espenan, father of Cadet (J.F.K. Document 014930);(See ref.11,SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1962, exhibit EEE. p.9(J.F.K. Document 014904)),ibid., FAA, vol.4, Robey report, p.10. Interview of Colonel J. Ehrlicker.

(84) Synopsis of SBA hearing, testimony of John R. Espenan, pp.2-3(J.F.K. Document 014930); testimony of David Ferrie, synopsis, p.6; and see ref.11, SR 11-N-224, Nov. 19,1962, exhibit EEE,p.9.

(85) Ibid., SR-11-N-224, vol. K, FAA file. ALBA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, brief of EAL on grievance of Ferrie, p. 13.

(86) Ibid., FAA, vol. 2, exhibit GGG, Dec. 19, 1962, p. 6.

(87) Synopsis of SBA, Hearing, Testimony of Ferrie, testimony of John Ernest Irion (J.F.K. Document 014930); FAA, vol.4, Robey report, p. 14 (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(88) Ibid., FAA, vol.4, attachment I, Oct. 30, 1961. FBI report: and ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962, p. 7. While would-be members claimed approaches were made to them to join the group, Banister testified there never was such a group by that name (SBA hearing, Banister testimony).

(89) Ibid.

(90a) Secret Service Report, Dec. 13, 1963. No.CO-2-34,030, p. 4, traveled to San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville (J.F.K. Document 003840).

(91) FAA, vol.3, exhibit FF, memo to C.J. Simons from S.J. Minnisale, Aug. 14, 1959(J.F.K. Document 014904).

(92) Ibid.

(93) Ibid.

(94) FAA, vol.3, letter to Captain G.E. Greicher, Oct. 30, 1961, from Ferrie (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(95) See ref. 82, FAA, vol.4, Robey report, attachment I. FBI report, Oct. 30, 1961, interview of Ferrie. Aug. 22, 1961, p.4 (J.F.K. Document 014904): FAA file, ALPA SBA, d. w. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63; EAL EXH; Juvenile Bureau Report, Aug. 18, 1961, item No. H8507-61, p.2.

(96) Ibid., FBI report. Aug. 22, 1961. Note: It was also reported that Ferrie had applied for a visa to Venezuela on Nov. 15, 1961, which request was denied. Ferrie had also applied for a passport. His purpose is unknown. FAA, vol.5, attachment QQ.

(97) Ibid. The submarines were found in a Sept. 22, 1961 search of Ferrie's house. Also discovered among Ferrie's effects were: a Morse code key, four model 1903 Springfield rifles, two .22 caliber rifles, one rifle, a flare gun, .38 caliber revolver, a sword, a quantitiy of ammunition, three maps (of Havana Harbor, the coast of Cuba, West Indies, Cuba and North Coast), plus the two submarines. FAA, vol.4, attachments F through I. Ferrie said he purchased the guns at the Crescent Gun Shop, New Orleans.

(98) Interview of Carlos Quiroga, June 2, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations, attached material. See also FBI report 62-109060, FOIA materials, interview of Quiroga by the New Orleans District Attorney's office (J.F.K. Document 008846).

(99) FAA, vol.4, Robey report, p.12, Michael Finney said Ferrie had been training Cuban pilots in the New Orleans area (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(100) Interview of John Irion, Oct. 28, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 012754); see ref. 30.

(101) FBI teletype, May 7, 1967, to Director from New Orleans, 62-109060-5237.

(102) FAA, vol.4, attachment I, FBI report, Oct. 30, 1961, New Orleans, Los Angeles, for David William Ferrie (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(103) FBI 62-109060, copy of New Orleans district attorney's interview with Carlos Quiroga, 1968; see also statement of Herbert R. Wagner of Herb Wagner Finance Service, Dec. 6, 1967, indicating that Ferrie assisted Arcacha Smith in obtaining a loan (J.F.K. Document 000834).

(104) FAA, Vol.5, exhibit BB, July 18,1961, letter from Arcacha Smith to Captain Eddie V. Rickenbacker (J.F.K. Document 014904).

Ibid., FAA, Vol.5, exhibit CC, letter to Arcacha Smith from J.P. Halliburton, Aug. 1, 1961.

(105) Ibid., EAL file, Ferrie, D.W., vacation information form, Apr. 17,1961. Request for leave for period April 16-31, 1961. The Bay of Pigs invasion began April 17, 1961.

(106) Staff review of CIA file for Sergio Arcacha Smith, May 1, 1978, Office of Security, memo from Raymond G. Rocca, May 31, 1961, item F; also, memo from Donovan E. Pratt, Sept. 28, 1967, items A, B, and C, regarding Arcacha Smith. The Sept. 28, 1967 Pratt memo also found in Office of Security file for David W. Ferrie. One local office did believe the group had the "unofficial sanction of CIA"-Lieutenant Martello, p. 10, 11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962, Exhibit FFF (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(107) Ibid., SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1963, p. 14; synopsis of SBA hearing, Ferrie testimony, p.7 (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(108) Ibid.

(109) See ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1963, p.14.

(110) SBA hearings, testimony of Roland P. Fournier, re: Ferrie involvement in Alexander Landry and Albert Cheramie cases, pp.1 and 2.

(111) Ibid.; and vol. k, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, No. 15-63, 29-63, 48-63. EAL exhibit, insert No. 1, Juvenile Bureau report, Aug. 18, 1961, item H-8507-01,p.6.

(112) Ibid., FAA, vol.D, vol.4, attachment C, investigative results-Jefferson Parish Police Juvenile Division, Aug. 29, 1961, Ferrie "suspected of harboring the juvenile and also encouraging him to run away from home"; ALPA No. 48-63, letter from William G. Bell to Capt. V.O. Rowland, May 2, 1963; and vol. K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, EAL exhibit, insert No. 1, juvenile bureau report, Aug.18,1961, item No. H-8507-61.

(113) See ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19,1962, exhibit EEE, p.3 from the Louisiana State Police criminal record for David W. Ferrie, ALPA No.48-63, letter from Bell to Rowland, May 2, 1963.

(114) Ibid., ALPA file No. 48-63, letter from William Bell to Capt. V. G. Rowland. May 2, 1963; FAA file, ALPA SBA. D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, EAL exhibit, insert No. 1, juvenile bureau report, Aug. 18,1961, item No. H-8507-61,p.4.

(115) Ibid., SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19,1962, exhibit EEE, p.3, from Louisiana State Police records for David W. Ferrie, news article. Times-Picayune, New Orleans, La., Aug. 22, 1961, attachment B; Faa, vol.4; FAA, vol.4, attachment C. Jefferson Parish Police Department investigative report.

(116) Ibid., SR-11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962, exhibit FFF, p. 10. Lieutenant Martello, pp. 9-10; Secret Service interview of Arnesto Rodriquez, Dec. 9, 1963, by SA's Gerrets and Rice (J.F.K. Document 003759).

(117) Synopsis of SBA hearing, testimony of Sgt. Roland P. Fournier, New Orleans Police-juvenile bureau (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(118) FAA, vol.4, attachment C, investigative report of Jefferson Parish, Police Department, New Orleans, Aug. 22, 1961(J.F.K. Document 014904).

(119) Ibid., FAA, vol. 3, exhibit HH, Aug. 26, 1961, Eastern Airlines to FAA informing them Ferrie had been removed from the payroll; and exhibit JJ, Aug. 29, 1961, Greiner to Ferrie.

(120) Ibid., FAA, vol. r, exhibit A, case of "Good Moral Character," opened Sept. 8, 1961, by Richard E. Robey, summary of the report; and FAA, vol.3, exhibit KK, Eastern Airlines opened investigation also.

(121) Synopsis of SBA hearings, testimony of David Ferrie (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(122) See ref. 11, SR-11-N-224, Nov. 19, 1962, p.6 (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(123) Ibid., EAL file, grievances of David W. Ferrie, Aug. 5, 1963, vol. 3, testimony of Banister, p. 840.

(124) Ibid., p.825.

(125) Ibid., p.855.

(126) Ibid., p.855.

(127) Ibid., p.840; see also staff summary of FBI file for Guy Baniser, House Select Committee on Assassinations(J.F.K. Document 012799).

(128) Guy Banister file, Garrison papers, Aug. 14, 1977 (J.F.K. Document 100189).

(129) Staff summary of FBI file for Guy Baniser, House Select Committe on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 012799). (Note: Banister explained before the airline pilots board about his work with "Arcacha Smith and others." Banister said, "I had high-ranking Cuban refugees in my office asking me how to go underground and I gave them diagrams for that. I have talked to military and political leaders from the various provinces of Cuba that have slipped out and slipped back." Vol.5, EAL file, grievances of David W. Ferrie, Aug. 5, 1963, vol.3, testimony of Banister, p.841 (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(130) Secret Service file No. CO-2-34, 030, Dec. 3, 1963, SA. A. Vial, p. 1 4, regarding telephone interview of Sam Newman.

(131) Interview of Jack Martin, Dec. 5 and Dec. 6, 1977, House Select Commit-tee on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 005212 and 005213); and interview of Sam Newman, Mar. 2, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 005962).

(132) See ref. 131, Martin interview, Dec. 5, 1977; and Martin interview, Dec. 6, 1977.

(133) Synopsis of SBA hearing, Ferrie testimony, House Select Committee on Assassinations, pp.5-6 (J.F.K. Document 014930).

(134) FAA, vol. 1, correspondence from Jack Martin (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(135) Ibid., SR 11-N-224, Dec. 19, 1962, p.14.

(136) Ibid.

(137) Ibid.

(138) Ibid.

(139) Ibid., ALPA No.48-63, letter from G. Wray Gill to Capt. George Greiner, Jan.8,1963.

(140) Ibid., FAA, vol.3, exhibit KK, letter from Capt. Greiner to Ferrie, Sept. 1, 1961.

(141) Ibid., FAA, vol. 3, exhibit LL, letter from Ferrie to Capt. Greiner, Sept. 5, 1961.

(142) Ibid., FAA, vol.2, exhibit AAA, letter of Eric Michael Crouchet to FAA, Oct. 22, 1962.

(143) Ibid. Among those who intervened on Ferrie's behalf were Congressmen Morrison and Long, old friends of G. Wray Gill.(see ALPA No.48-63, letter from William G. Bell to J. O. Jarvard. May 2, 1963) (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(144) Ibid., ALPA No. 48-63, letter from EAL, Apr. 11, 1963 to Ferrie, grievance No. 15-63, filed Jan. 21, 1963.

(145) Ibid., vol. K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, minutes of meeting, Feb. 18, 1963, Miami.

(146) Ibid.

(147) Ibid., grievance No. 29-63, filed Feb. 18,1963, and grievance No.48-63, filed Feb. 13, 1963; ALPA No. 29-63, June 4, 1963, to J.B. Railsback from Charles H. Ruby, Airline Plots Association; letter from Ferrie to EAL, Feb. 15, 1963, in ALPA 29063.

(148) Ibid., see ALPA files for correspondence; ALPA No. 29-63, ALPA file No. 48-63, letter to Capt. J.T. Robertson from J. B. Railsback, ALPA 45062, and letter to D. W. Ferrie from R. W. Rivenbark.

(149) Interview of Vernon Goerdes regarding Louise Decker, Feb. 15, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 005807); interview of Carlos Quiroga, Feb. 22, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. Document 006190); and ref. 131, Martin interview, Dec. 5, 1977.

(150) Vol. S-miscellaneous, letter to Capt. George W. Youngerman et al., from J.B. Railsback, EAL Pilots System Board of Adjustment, July 8, 1963 (J.F.K. Document 014904).

(151) Ibid., vol. T, EAL file, grievances of David W. Ferrie, Miami, transcript of hearing, July 15, 16, 17, 1963, vol.I.

(152) Ibid., vol.K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D. W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, brief of EAL on grievance of David W. Ferrie, pp.9-10.

(153) Ibid., vol. U, EAL file, grievances of David W. Ferrie, Miami transcript of hearing, vol.II.

(154) Ibid., vol. V, EAL file, grievances of David W. Ferrie, transcript of hearing, Aug. 5, 1963, vol.3, pp.461-743.

(155) Ibid., vol.K, FAA file, ALPA SBA, D.W. Ferrie, 15-63, 29-63, 48-63, brief of EAL on grievances for David Ferrie, p.10 (ALPA Exhibit 24).

(156) Ibid., vol. V, EAL file, grievances of David W. Ferrie, Aug.5,1963, vol.3, testimony, pp.856-857.

(157) Ibid., pp.842, 858.

(158) Ibid., p.8.

(159) Ibid., FAA, vol.4, Robey report, p.17, July 30, 1963, attachment DDD, letter from William G. Bell; vol.M, EAL file, D.W. Ferrie, ALPA 15-63, filed Jan. 21, 1963, decision of the board, Sept. 25, 1963.

(160) Ibid., vol. M, EAL file, D.W. Ferrie, ALPA 14-63, filed Jan. 21, 1963, decision of the board, Sept. 25, 1963. (Note: Ferrie was awarded $1,635.90 in full settlement of all claims. See memo from T.J.Kennedy to Capt. C. F. Hamner, Oct. 11, 1963, Ferrie, D.W.,file.)

(161) FBI report, interview of David W. Ferrie, Dec. 5, 1963.

(162) FAA, vol.1, attachment L. Ferrie was reportedly fired from his job with Space Airfreight following complaints by FAA officials that operations under Ferrie's direction were not being carried out according to FAA regulations (J.F.K. document 014904).

(163) FBI Report 92-10976-2, Nov. 27, 1968, pp.1-4.

(164) Staff summary of Immigration and Naturalization Service file for David Ferrie, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. document 012305).

(165) Ibid.

(166) Ibid.; FAA vol.4, Robey report, attachment I, FBI report, Aug. 22, 1961, interview of David Ferrie (J.F.K. document 014904).

(167) FBI report, interview of Carlos Quiroga by New Orleans District Attorney's Office, 1968.

(168) Ibid.

(169) Staff summary of FBI file for Sergio Arcacha Smith, House Select Committee on Assassinations (J.F.K. document 004110). 121

(170) Outside contact report, House Select Committee on Assassinations, Mar. 13,1979 (J.F.K. document 014933).

(171) Ibid.

(172) Ibid.

(173) Ibid.

(174) FBI report, interview of G. Wray Gill, Sr., p.2.

(175) FBI report, interview of David Ferrie, Nov. 26, 1963, p.3.

(176) Ibid.

(177) Ibid.

(178) Receipt of purchase, Oct. 16, 1978 (J.F.K. document 012523).

(179) FBI report, interview of David Ferrie, Nov. 26, 1963, p.3.

(180) Ibid.

(181) Guy Banister file, item GB-2, Garrison papers, New Orleans Police report, Nov. 22, 1963 (J.F.K. Document 001986). Note: There are conflicting reports as to why Banister attached Martin. Martin has told the committee that it was over a remark he (Martin) had made in jest about the Kennedy assassination. Banister's secretary, Delphine Roberts, who was also present, told the committee the two men came to blows when Martin tried to remove certain files from the office (see interview of Jack Martin, Feb. 15, 1978, House Select Committee on Assassinations,p.3(J.F.K. Document 000212) and interview of Delphine Points Rober

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