Lee Forman Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Once we reached the bottom of the stairwell, we opened the door and rushed into the emergency room. There is always a commotion around trauma, but what I saw was sheer bedlam. As we flew by the nurses’ station, I yelled, "Which room?" A nurse with tears streaming down her face raised one finger.I looked to my left and saw a man in a suit running. To my amazement, another man in a suit jumped in his path and smashed a Thompson submachine gun across his chest and face. The first man’s eyes immediately turned glassy, and he fell against a gray tile wall, and slithered to the floor unconscious. When I heard that gun slam against his face, I just knew the man’s jaw was broken. Normally, I would have rushed over and treated the poor guy, but the president of the United States was waiting for me, and his condition was worse than broken bones. I was to learn later that the man with the gun was a Secret Service agent, and the one who had been hit was an FBI agent. (C. Crenshaw, et al, JFK: Conspiracy of Silence, 1992, p. 75) He's a Doctor - he knows that the jawbone has been broken. The man is unconscious. SA Vince Drain http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/history/the_d...need/Drain.html I wasn't up close to the body, but I could see fairly well the large amount of blood from the head wound. The head was badly damaged from the lower right base across the top extending across the top of the ear. It appeared to me as though the bullet traveled upward and had taken off the right portion of his skull. It may have been the security officer or one of the other officers who gave me a portion of the skull which was about the size of a teacup, much larger than a silver dollar. [Note from Larry Sneed: This skull fragment sounds very much like the fragment discovered by motorcycle patrolman Bobby Joe Dale. See Dale narrative, page 136.] Apparently the explosion had jerked it because the hair was still on it. I carried that back to Washington later that night and turned it over to the FBI laboratory.Apparently a problem developed at the hospital when a fellow arrived without knowing exactly where he was. He was in a restricted area and had gone through the swinging doors when he was confronted by the Secret Service. They then grabbed him and removed him from the building. I didn't know what was going on at the time because I was already in the trauma room where the President was. ... He said, "I think that's an excellent idea. Let's get it out of here within the hour." So I picked up the phone, called the office, and got eight agents and headed out of there within the hour. That was, I believe, on Tuesday. Then on Wednesday I took it back to Washington with a visiting agent who had been sent in to help us out, Warren DeBrueys, the head of the New Orleans Crime Commission. DeBrueys is sent up from Dallas, but doesn't seem to be the same as the 'fellow' Drain speaks of above in the Parkland incident. But Drain also doesn't seem to realize that the 'fellow' is a fellow FBI agent? Torbitt After the Bay of Pigs disaster, the Prio-Ruby group underBannister's direction continued to work with the Cuban exiles toward an invasion of the Cuban mainland. Bannister, as a free agent. worked with Warren DeBrueys, Division Five of the FBI's resident agent in New Orleans. DeBrueys was also a White Russian and a member of the Solidarists. DeBrueys' chief assignment in the summer and fall of 1963 was to maintain a close vigil over Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans and Dallas. This he did, and after Oswald's death, DeBrueys gathered all of Oswald's personal belongings and carried them to J. Edgar Hoover in Washington, D.C.94 On November 22, before it was known that Kennedy was dead, Warren Debrueys walked into Parkland Hospital and tried to force his way into the room where President Kennedy was being attended. Two Secret Service agents had a terrible fight with DeBrueys, before he was subdued in the room just outside of Kennedy's. He was held down by Secret Service agents until help arrived.95 Strong stuff. Debrueys, as an FBI Agent, is stationed in New Orleans. He has no reason for being in Dallas, and it is not possible for him to be there at this time, unless he arrived earlier in the day - which would really be suspicious. Gary Mack Gary Mack informed me that this was Dallas field agent Doyle Williams. Wiliiams wrote an official report of the incident which can be found at NARA, and was interviewed in JFK: The Torch Is Passed. I couldn't find the report - unless it is the one on Agent Hosty? That was the only report on file for 11/22. Out of 12 hits at NARA for Doyle Williams - none are classified, and all are reports by Doyle [as opposed to addressed to Doyle]. Notes from Shackelford on Hosty's book, Assignment: Oswald. http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/MS/1book.html At Parkland, agent Doyle Williams entered the secured area where LBJ waslocated, and was decked by Secret Service agents before he could identify himself.(pp. 63-64) ...'Decked' sounds like Crenshaw's account. Maybe that's the reason Doyle only wrote a single report that day. As opposed to being close to Kennedy, Hosty places him by where LBJ is located. By Nov. 25, the number of agents assigned to Dallas jumped from 40 to100. The office took over the building's 7th floor, and divided the agents into two groups. Agents investigating Oswald were located on the 11th floor; those investigating Ruby were located on the 7th floor. (p.65) Hosty and Warren DeBrueys, both with background on Oswald, are assigned instead to the Ruby squad. On the Oswald squad, Bob Barrett is put in charge of the Tippit shooting, and the office wiretapper (p. 110), Nat Pinkston, is put in charge of Dealey Plaza. Manning Clements heads the Ruby squad. (p. 68) 3 hours later, at noon, Hosty and DeBrueys are re-assigned to the Oswald squad.(p. 70) Shackelford again...Databitz 3 http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/MS/3data.html p. 54 note 12 Warren DeBrueys, New Orleans FBI agent transferredto Dallas to assist in JFK assassination investigation, was (per CIA release) part of a covert operation called Project SEAL; another SEAL member was Sergio Arcacha Smith, former New Orleans anti- Castro activist (with links to Banister)whom Texas refused to extradite for Garrison. Weberman Nodule #17: WARREN C. DeBRUEYS flew to Dallas shortly after the assassination. Since the second set of tramps were shuttled back and forth until approximately 5:00 p.m. DeBRUEYS could have released the tramps or verified their ID. Fetzer's Murder in Dealey Plaza, Catfeet press, Chicago, 2000, p70: FBI SAC J. Gordon Shanklin orders SA J. Doyle Williams to go to Parkland Hospital, locate the SS agent in charge, and inform him that Hoover has ordered all bureau resources to be at the ready to assist. Williams speeds to the hospital, finds Roy Kellerman and relays message. He then offers J. Edgar Hoover's condolences to Mrs. Kennedy. He then asks one of the nurses to help him find a telephone so that he can report to his superiors. When he returns from making this telephone call, reports of what happens next are confusing. Williams testifies that he is grabbed from behind by two SS agents and wrestled to the hall floor. Roy Kellerman steps in and asks Williams to leave. He does so and returns to the FBI office.NOTE: Hoover will eventually demote Williams for this incident.[/quote] We have multiple accounts of what transpired here. And they seem to differ in small degrees, one from another - but it still seems like we are missing something. Was he hit, or wrestled to the ground? Is it Doyle Williams, or Warren Debrueys? Why would Williams be demoted by Hoover for this incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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