Evan Burton Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 You nailed it, Andy: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sh...read.php?t=2213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Someone lies. My original posting consisted of this line only: http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-0...attack-job.html until someone added the rest. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Someone lies. you possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Rigby Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I think there is a line which can be crossed between conspiricism and psychosis. The psychotic or someone experiencing a psychotic episode will by definition be unable to distinguish between reality and their imagination - they will passionately believe things that are not true. There is a sustaining'heat' which surrounds groups of psychotics fuelled by a community validation which sustains their delusions.This goes some way to explain their desire to inhabit groups where 'non believers' are excluded. I think you've found an example of this phenomenon there Evan. Argument and reason are no help to psychotics instead what is required is proper professional help. "Psychosis" - and all that other anti-conspiratorial psychobabble - just where did Andy come up with that, I wondered? Ah yes, Charlie Krauthammer, apologist for mass murder and torture: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15201 The Mysterious Collapse of WTC Seven Why NIST’s Final 9/11 Report is Unscientific and False by Prof. David Ray Griffin 57. I am referring to the fact that Van Jones, who had been an Obama administration advisor on “green jobs,” felt compelled to resign due to the uproar evoked by the revelation that he had signed a petition questioning the official account of 9/11. The view that this act made him unworthy was perhaps articulated most clearly by Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer. After dismissing as irrelevant the other reasons that had been given for demanding Jones’s resignation, Krauthammer wrote: “He's gone for one reason and one reason only. You can't sign a petition demanding ... investigations of the charge that the Bush administration deliberately allowed Sept. 11, 2001 – i.e., collaborated in the worst massacre ever perpetrated on American soil – and be permitted in polite society, let alone have a high-level job in the White House. Unlike the other stuff ... , this is no trivial matter. It's beyond radicalism, beyond partisanship. It takes us into the realm of political psychosis, a malignant paranoia that, unlike the Marxist posturing, is not amusing. It's dangerous....You can no more have a truther in the White House than you can have a Holocaust denier – a person who creates a hallucinatory alternative reality in the service of a fathomless malice” (Charles Krauthammer , “The Van Jones Matter,” Washington Post, September 11, 2009 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/conten...9091003408.html Andy Walker, the neocon plagiarist and transmission belt. What a shock. Then again, perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I think there is a line which can be crossed between conspiricism and psychosis. The psychotic or someone experiencing a psychotic episode will by definition be unable to distinguish between reality and their imagination - they will passionately believe things that are not true. There is a sustaining'heat' which surrounds groups of psychotics fuelled by a community validation which sustains their delusions.This goes some way to explain their desire to inhabit groups where 'non believers' are excluded. I think you've found an example of this phenomenon there Evan. Argument and reason are no help to psychotics instead what is required is proper professional help. "Psychosis" - and all that other anti-conspiratorial psychobabble - just where did Andy come up with that, I wondered? Ah yes, Charlie Krauthammer, apologist for mass murder and torture: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15201 The Mysterious Collapse of WTC Seven Why NIST’s Final 9/11 Report is Unscientific and False by Prof. David Ray Griffin 57. I am referring to the fact that Van Jones, who had been an Obama administration advisor on “green jobs,” felt compelled to resign due to the uproar evoked by the revelation that he had signed a petition questioning the official account of 9/11. The view that this act made him unworthy was perhaps articulated most clearly by Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer. After dismissing as irrelevant the other reasons that had been given for demanding Jones’s resignation, Krauthammer wrote: “He's gone for one reason and one reason only. You can't sign a petition demanding ... investigations of the charge that the Bush administration deliberately allowed Sept. 11, 2001 – i.e., collaborated in the worst massacre ever perpetrated on American soil – and be permitted in polite society, let alone have a high-level job in the White House. Unlike the other stuff ... , this is no trivial matter. It's beyond radicalism, beyond partisanship. It takes us into the realm of political psychosis, a malignant paranoia that, unlike the Marxist posturing, is not amusing. It's dangerous....You can no more have a truther in the White House than you can have a Holocaust denier – a person who creates a hallucinatory alternative reality in the service of a fathomless malice” (Charles Krauthammer , “The Van Jones Matter,” Washington Post, September 11, 2009 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/conten...9091003408.html Andy Walker, the neocon plagiarist and transmission belt. What a shock. Then again, perhaps not. You're off your head Paul. Because I oppose your conspiracy drivel I am a neocon and plagiarist??? And who on earth is Charlie Krauthammer? My views on psychosis originate from my interest in psychology - a subject I have taught to advanced level. All your rantings just confirm my initial diagnosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Someone lies. you possibly? I posted ONLY the URL. Someone else thought it should be summarized, but will not admit it. Not that I object to the addition. I object to the hypocrisy. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 See what passes for research on the train wreck that is killclown's forum:http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174 Those clowns say it will "...go down in history as a cornerstone of our era". Yeah - of the rampant idiocy that is the truther movement. I think there is a line which can be crossed between conspiricism and psychosis. The psychotic or someone experiencing a psychotic episode will by definition be unable to distinguish between reality and their imagination - they will passionately believe things that are not true. There is a sustaining'heat' which surrounds groups of psychotics fuelled by a community validation which sustains their delusions.This goes some way to explain their desire to inhabit groups where 'non believers' are excluded. I think you've found an example of this phenomenon there Evan. Argument and reason are no help to psychotics instead what is required is proper professional help. I agree that some here require proper professional help for their misguided and misinformed phobias. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Someone lies. you possibly? I posted ONLY the URL. Someone else thought it should be summarized, but will not admit it. Not that I object to the addition. I object to the hypocrisy. Jack There is no record of any editing of this thread in the board logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 See what passes for research on the train wreck that is killclown's forum:http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174 Those clowns say it will "...go down in history as a cornerstone of our era". Yeah - of the rampant idiocy that is the truther movement. I think there is a line which can be crossed between conspiricism and psychosis. The psychotic or someone experiencing a psychotic episode will by definition be unable to distinguish between reality and their imagination - they will passionately believe things that are not true. There is a sustaining'heat' which surrounds groups of psychotics fuelled by a community validation which sustains their delusions.This goes some way to explain their desire to inhabit groups where 'non believers' are excluded. I think you've found an example of this phenomenon there Evan. Argument and reason are no help to psychotics instead what is required is proper professional help. I agree that some here require proper professional help for their misguided and misinformed phobias. Jack A phobia is defined as a persistent fear of a situation, person or activity. Phobias cause the individual to go to great lengths to avoid that person situation or thing, so I don't think anyone is suffering from phobias here. Not least because you keep coming back for more! What I was talking about Jack is psychosis - the passionate belief in things that are not true. Psychosis is not a condition in its self rather it is a symptom of a variety of other causes - alcohol abuse, stroke, bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, hysteria (the repression of strong emotions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Turner Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 [ What I was talking about Jack is psychosis - the passionate belief in things that are not true. Psychosis is not a condition in its self rather it is a symptom of a variety of other causes - alcohol abuse, stroke, bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, hysteria (the repression of strong emotions). Hey Andy, this is my turf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 [ What I was talking about Jack is psychosis - the passionate belief in things that are not true. Psychosis is not a condition in its self rather it is a symptom of a variety of other causes - alcohol abuse, stroke, bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, hysteria (the repression of strong emotions). Hey Andy, this is my turf! And I thought you were in charge of the mercy killing of neocons NHS style!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tribe Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I have thought for quite a while that the forum would provide a rich field for any researcher into abnormal psychology... There's a PhD in there somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Turner Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 [ What I was talking about Jack is psychosis - the passionate belief in things that are not true. Psychosis is not a condition in its self rather it is a symptom of a variety of other causes - alcohol abuse, stroke, bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, hysteria (the repression of strong emotions). Hey Andy, this is my turf! And I thought you were in charge of the mercy killing of neocons NHS style!! Tomorrow belongs to us. How refreshing to witness someone who has railed against every conspiracy theory on this board, become supportive of the silliest one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I think that any psychology student seeking thesis material should look at either the untruth movement, or a number of Moon hoax believers. Rich ground, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 See what passes for research on the train wreck that is killclown's forum:http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174 Those clowns say it will "...go down in history as a cornerstone of our era". Yeah - of the rampant idiocy that is the truther movement. I think there is a line which can be crossed between conspiricism and psychosis. The psychotic or someone experiencing a psychotic episode will by definition be unable to distinguish between reality and their imagination - they will passionately believe things that are not true. There is a sustaining'heat' which surrounds groups of psychotics fuelled by a community validation which sustains their delusions.This goes some way to explain their desire to inhabit groups where 'non believers' are excluded. I think you've found an example of this phenomenon there Evan. Argument and reason are no help to psychotics instead what is required is proper professional help. I agree that some here require proper professional help for their misguided and misinformed phobias. Jack A phobia is defined as a persistent fear of a situation, person or activity. Phobias cause the individual to go to great lengths to avoid that person situation or thing, so I don't think anyone is suffering from phobias here. Not least because you keep coming back for more! What I was talking about Jack is psychosis - the passionate belief in things that are not true. Psychosis is not a condition in its self rather it is a symptom of a variety of other causes - alcohol abuse, stroke, bipolar disorder, depression, schizophrenia, hysteria (the repression of strong emotions). An irrational fear of being exposed to the truth is a PHOBIA. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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