FBI, the mob, and 9/11

[Duane Daman]

Here is the original CNN video showing the explosion of WTC 6 , with the dust plume rising up high into the sky BEFORE WTC 1 and 2 collapsed !

This video was aired only ONCE live before it was pulled ( pun intended ) ... So the video stills that Kevin and Len have posted here is cobbled together government disinformation created after the fact .

This video clip also contains the audio of Larry Siverstein making the decision to "PULL IT " , in reference to WTC 7 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsdglv3dS8

[Matthew Lewis]

Watched the video. Only one tower is in the clip. Both are not still standing. The dust cloud is from the first tower collapsing. It doesn't matter how many times they say both are still there, there is still only one. Len Colby's analysis is right on. Before either tower collapsed the smoke only came from higher up in each tower. The image in question shows only one tower and in the area where the second tower was, smoke and dust from far below where the impact zone was. This is dust suspended in the air shortly after the collapse. There is no tower there.

Edited September 22, 2007 by Matthew Lewis

[Jack White]

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Jack

[Craig Lamson]

Watched the video. Only one tower is in the clip. Both are not still standing. The dust cloud is from the first tower collapsing. It doesn't matter how many times they say both are still there, there is still only one. Len Colby's analysis is right on. Before either tower collapsed the smoke only came from higher up in each tower. The image in question shows only one tower and in the area where the second tower was, smoke and dust from far below where the impact zone was. This is dust suspended in the air shortly after the collapse. There is no tower there.

Of course there is only one tower standing. As usual White's ability to understand what is in a photograph is p--s poor.

First he claims the two views are 'virtually identical.' They are not. In the river view the camera is far more to the right. You can see this due to the fact that the base of the closest tower is overlaped by the spired building in front of it. The Helicopter shot is far more to the left. You can see this due to the fact that the closest tower now has a gap between it and the spired building in the foreground. If you use the principal of the lever and the spired building as the fulcrum, the lateral distance of between the two camera positions can be measured in city blocks...many city blocks! Strick one for WHite.

Second he claims to see the edge of the second tower beyond the edge of the first tower in the heilcopter shot. Remember in this shot wew can see the gap between the closest tower and the spired building. In this gap the image is very light colored, much lighter than the color of the tower. If we reference back to the river shot, we can see that the tone of BOTH towers are so similar that White has attempted "enhance" the image to show both towers. So, if both towers are the same tone, why in the helicopter shot is the second tower now so much lighter that the first? Simple, its because its not the second tower but rather dust remaining from its collaspe. Strike two for White.

Finally WHite tells us about his ability...

"There are none so blind as those who refuse to see."

Jack White

Strike three.

Edited September 22, 2007 by Craig Lamson

[Craig Lamson]

Watched the video. Only one tower is in the clip. Both are not still standing. The dust cloud is from the first tower collapsing. It doesn't matter how many times they say both are still there, there is still only one. Len Colby's analysis is right on. Before either tower collapsed the smoke only came from higher up in each tower. The image in question shows only one tower and in the area where the second tower was, smoke and dust from far below where the impact zone was. This is dust suspended in the air shortly after the collapse. There is no tower there.

Sorry, not even close. When the tower fell things were much more chaotic and dustclouds many more places. Nice dreamland you are living in....too afraid to face the reality of what some in OUR government have done, to lie about the events of 9-11 and allow it to happen or, perhaps, do it themselves.....time will tell. For now, the official version as a true a tale as that the same Government gave us about Dallas or Tonkin or a thousand other things they misled the public on. Sorry, we don't live in the same reality......yours is self-delusional IMO [out of a fear to see what really happened - and the implications]. You are not alone, there. May you see the light..all one needs to do is to open your eyes. Watch any film of the tower collapse...any one of many. Until then, Pleasant dreams.

I've long suspected you don't live in the real world Peter. The tower was GONE!. Building 6 was STILL STANDING! For anyone to say otherwise is simply silly. They are living in a fantasyland. Now if the shoe fits Peter, WEAR IT!

[Matthew Lewis]

Len's link to the CNN archive of 8:48 – 9:29 shows that the footage in question was definitely not from 9:04. Further, this page with the archive footage from 11:34 am - 12:16 pm shows that the footage in question is in fact from shortly after the collapse of the first tower.

http://www.archive.org/details/cnn200109111134-1216

Clancy was interviewed starting at 11:51 AM, they showed the collapse of the towers from multiple viewpoints. The footage in question starts at about 19:10 in the video. It was not aired at 9:04 as shown by the archive. It was aired much later when they interviewed Clancy. In the footage you can see WTC 2 dropping as the dust cloud in question rises.

[Duane Daman]

Watched the video. Only one tower is in the clip. Both are not still standing. The dust cloud is from the first tower collapsing. It doesn't matter how many times they say both are still there, there is still only one. Len Colby's analysis is right on. Before either tower collapsed the smoke only came from higher up in each tower. The image in question shows only one tower and in the area where the second tower was, smoke and dust from far below where the impact zone was. This is dust suspended in the air shortly after the collapse. There is no tower there.

LLPOF !

Or are you just playing the same game that Lamson , Colby , West and Burton are ?

BOTH towers were standing in the original CNN video that was pulled off the air and replaced by the crap you promote .

How sad that the same handful of members here feel the need to try to refute every single study that Jack posts here .... You all couldn't be any more transparent than if you were made out of window pane glass .

[Matthew Lewis]

No they weren't still standing. As I showed in the post above, the footage was aired much later (not the 9:04 that was claimed) and the full clip clearly shows WTC 2 dropping.

[Duane Daman]

No they weren't still standing. As I showed in the post above, the footage was aired much later (not the 9:04 that was claimed) and the full clip clearly shows WTC 2 dropping.

Watch it again then because BOTH towers are standing ... They have NOT begun to collapse ... and it has been CONFIRMED by CNN that this clip was aired at 9:03 AM , immediately after the South tower was hit .

Do you have a video clip showing the dust plume rising from WTC 6 as the south tower is collapsing ? ... Because if you do , I would like to see it .

Maybe you should watch ALL of this documentary to see what kind of goevernment lies you are defending .

[Jack White]

I have posted a photo showing that BOTH TOWERS WERE STANDING at the

time of the CNN frames. Those who fail to see this are visually handicapped.

Besides, the South Tower was far removed from Vesey Street, the location

of the CNN dustcloud. Too, William Rodriguez was in a basement of the

building and experienced the explosion. Defenders of the official story are

in a tough spot...they have to convince you to not believe your own eyes.

Jack

[Craig Lamson]

I have posted a photo showing that BOTH TOWERS WERE STANDING at the

time of the CNN frames. Those who fail to see this are visually handicapped.

Besides, the South Tower was far removed from Vesey Street, the location

of the CNN dustcloud. Too, William Rodriguez was in a basement of the

building and experienced the explosion. Defenders of the official story are

in a tough spot...they have to convince you to not believe your own eyes.

Jack

ou have done NO SUCH THING!

What you have posted is your MISTAKEN view that both towers were standing. Detailed analysis of your CNN image shows that there is only ONE tower standing and a dust trail left by the other tower as it fell.

The one in the tough spot is you and the other half-truthers. The images don't lie, thats the domain of the half-truthers

You have struck out again WHite.

[Craig Lamson]

I have posted a photo showing that BOTH TOWERS WERE STANDING at the

time of the CNN frames. Those who fail to see this are visually handicapped.

Besides, the South Tower was far removed from Vesey Street, the location

of the CNN dustcloud. Too, William Rodriguez was in a basement of the

building and experienced the explosion. Defenders of the official story are

in a tough spot...they have to convince you to not believe your own eyes.

Jack

The highlighted portion the very definition of magic - a magic show.....the suspension of belief in what you see with your own eyes......that describes Dallas and 911 perfectly, more so the cover-up and cover-upees. Do you believe in Magic?!?!?!

Considering you can't even UNDERSTAND what you see, how can you believe in anything? Do you believe in reality? It appears not.

[Len Colby]

Jack can you please post a copy of (or link to) your highest resolution copy of the CNN frame which you claim was shot at 9:04?

[Duane Daman]

I have posted a photo showing that BOTH TOWERS WERE STANDING at the

time of the CNN frames. Those who fail to see this are visually handicapped.

Besides, the South Tower was far removed from Vesey Street, the location

of the CNN dustcloud. Too, William Rodriguez was in a basement of the

building and experienced the explosion. Defenders of the official story are

in a tough spot...they have to convince you to not believe your own eyes.

Jack

The highlighted portion the very definition of magic - a magic show.....the suspension of belief in what you see with your own eyes......that describes Dallas and 911 perfectly, more so the cover-up and cover-upees. Do you believe in Magic?!?!?!

Some truths are just worth repeating ! ...

Peter ... If I wasn't reading some of the nonsense posted on this thread with my own eyes , I might not believe what I'm seeing .

The defenders of the official government version of 9/11 are clearly more delusional than I ever suspected ... When looking at a photograph and a video which clearly shows BOTH WTC towers standing there , while the dust plume coming from WTC 6 is below it , and then to insist that only one building is standing there when the tape shows TWO buildings , is beyond magic ... It's downright mind blowing .

The study that Jack posted here , plus the article I posted here , plus the video 'In Plane Sight' shows that the dust plume from WTC6 billowed up at 9:04 AM . ... This footage has been CONFIRMED as being the live footage that was aired at 9:04 AM .

So to continue to argue with the the type of insanity which claims otherwise is a complete waste of our time .

[Matthew Lewis]

It is amazing that this is still being argued. It has been shown that the clip was not aired at 9:04 but rather at around 11:53 when they were talking to Tom Clancy. The link to the video at that time has been posted. It shows one tower standing as the dust cloud rises and and only dust in the place of the second tower. If you look closely you can see the dust in the area where the second tower was gets lighter and you can actually see light coming through from the other side. This would not be possible if there was still a tower there.