Lyndon Johnson and Dick Cheney

[John Simkin]

Guns don't hurt people, vice-presidents do.

Cheney, like LBJ, believes that you're not a real man until you've been hunting for dangerous animals like quail and deer. His only complaint is that these animals don't greet him as a liberator.

[Tim Gratz]

Whittington, of course, was the first person shot by a sitting vice-president since Aaron Burr nailed Alexander Hamilton. But he was aiming for him!

All I can say is that it sure is a good thing that Mr, Cheney got draft deferments given his marksmanship. Talk about friendly fire!

I understand there is a hilarious Cheney game at the Huffington web-site. I don't want to give it away. Check it out.

Edited February 14, 2006 by Tim Gratz

[Guest Stephen Turner]

Guns don't hurt people, vice-presidents do.

Cheney, like LBJ, believes that you're not a real man until you've been hunting for dangerous animals like quail and deer. His only complaint is that these animals don't greet him as a liberator.

I notice, that like his president, he was conspicous by his abscence when he had a chance to fire at targets that actually fire back.

[Tim Gratz]

Stephen, who says the attorney could not have fired back at Cheney?

[Jim Hackett II]

Dick Cheney would be found only out of the "beaten zone" ---- particularly IF anyone were able to send rounds back towards him.

Chickenhawk to the core.

Like his boss draft dodger oh so willing and able to send other people's children into a war WHEN NONE OF THEM KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PERSONALLY GOING IN HARM'S WAY FOR A NATION.

That is how I define CHICKENHAWK, but chckenhawkism is old territory to the GOP Elite as well as the Democrat Elite. That cannon fodder stuff is for the other class and only benefits the Elite CHICKENHAWKS.

$3.50 a gallon gasoline make the point about Elite values while other die for Empire. And these lunatics are talking of attacking Iran! Sure in 1980 no problem if whole hearted effort followed, but now?

A tougher fight than any imagine in the US - except for those that have been there and done that war thing.

Only one son or daughter of Congress Critters serves in Iraq. ONE... that is chickenhawkism on a CLASS Scale ignoring the party but only the class matters. One just one --- IF this is even true now, maybe NONE not even one!

Elite Chickenhawkism is nothing new just ask any player in the SE Asian wargames while the Empire made profits on opiates sold to US troops. Traitors that fear no prosecution EVER. Empowered by whom? More elite Chickenhawks.

All been done before and Dick Cheney is no different than Dick Nixon and Lyndon Johnson, but Johnson had more character as he did express regret before he died.

Bu$h/Cheney don't EVER MAKE MISTAKES right? They told us so repeatedly. CRIMINALS LYING FOR WAR.

Why am I not surprised by this? Been there and done that before.

Jim

Edited February 14, 2006 by Jim Hackett II

[Nancy Eldreth]

What laws did Cheney break in the hunting sport that he was into?

First of all can't say he could not see the man in front of him? Also with his face spattered that means his face was showing toward Cheney.

I am sure that proper colors were worn by Whittington hat and coat, to help people know he is not a bird he is very human?

Also if these so called rich guys do this sport where in the world is their hunting dogs with them? If a dog were

used then there would be no accident?

I bet more break into laws are done than that that Cheney who is so skilled at this sport has done?

I know the dogs are extra and not a law but I am sure that shooting low in hunting is also a break into law

if it is a thicket they are firing into?

I do hope that this does go to court and for once is not hidden.

Because what my real question here is this, "what is it that Cheney does not want Whittington to release?"

[Robert Howard]

When I think of Dick Cheney, (and Donald Rumsfeld for that matter) I think of Dr. Frank Olson 0f MKULTRA infamy and how when the late Dr.'s son and wife visited Pres. Ford, after telling them he would help them get to the bottom of the circumstances surrounding Dr. Olson's macarbe death, Messr's Cheney and Rumsfeld helped maintain the cover-up, they were honing their skills back then. I guess that's my basic view.

As far as Dick Cheney's weekend misadventures, he might have discovered a title for the President and himself and the other members of the administration once they leave office, in light of their other 'issues,' Where's the WMD's, We Don't (We Do!) Torture, We didn't know about the levee's (We did!) - "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight."

[Tim Carroll]

What laws did Cheney break in the hunting sport that he was into?

Cheney's behavior was typical of an avoidance of scrutiny to conceal alcohol consumption. He evaded any contact with authorities for fourteen hours. He knows all about this, given his multiple drunk driving convictions.

This long time hunter supposedly didn't know that he needed a certain hunting license. Bush and Cheney began this administration by circumventing the constitutional prohibition against both coming from the same state.

These guys have at their core a root disregard for the law and the normal rules of civilized society. They personify the kind of psychopathology that was LBJ's hallmark. Texas, man!

T.C.

[Douglas Caddy]

The shooting took place on a ranch in south Texas.

No news was leaked out about it for 18 hours and then only to a local newspaper.

The news was leaked by a lobbyist who has represented a company that is the second largest contractor in Iraq, having U.S. contracts worth $5.2 billion.

The sheriff of the county in which the shooting took place waited 14 hours to investigate.

The sheriff's investigation did not include interviewing the shooting victim.

The victim is the owner of the building in Austin that housed the Bush gubernatorial campaign headquarters and the private office of Karl Rove.

The office of the Vice President did not release a statement until two days after the shooting.

The White House press secretary, one of Barr McClellan's sons, purposely misled the press about the event and declared it was time "to move on."

The hospital administrator where the victim is being treated said that he did not know what all the fuss was about.

Everyone involved in keeping mum about the exact details of the shooting.

The victim is 78 years old and may die from the pellets permanently lodged in his body.

In short, it's Texas corruption and politics all over again.

(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)

[Nancy Eldreth]

Douglas,

Your last sentence I hope you are correct on it abou news travels to fast these days. It does

but when it comes to what suits Bush's it is with a lot of limits.

They tried to brainwash the press even to make it sport for the jokes on certain TV shows. Yeah,

they sort of did do that but when it comes to something serious they put it down fast NO JOKING.

Good it at least has got some credit now by the actions that goes onto TV. When Bush's didn't get the

jokes as they hoped now they take what little they can from the NO JOKES on TV triing to live it up on

what little they got for the jokes and make it their own backwall crutches for their own lame story version.

Also Cheney said that he talked to his victum. Said he is OK with it. God, I hope this man lives to tell

another version on how fine he is and or is not intimadated by the Bush's.

Thank you for some leading backgrouund on Whittington. That maybe a must needed looking into part of what he knew about (something) in his own life that Bush would not wish to have out to the public. Sad, they will do this the same and IS there anyway to MAKE things go another direction COURT, LAW, LEGAL SYSTEM?

Tim,

Also thank you but how does one know if Cheney was drunk at that time? His backlog may not be a

present condition that he would choose that day. Personally, I don't and can't see how Cheney could

manage a football team if he were to be had of one to make orders for them, let alone a country.

[Terry Mauro]

The shooting took place on a ranch in south Texas.

No news was leaked out about it for 18 hours and then only to a local newspaper.

The news was leaked by a lobbyist who has represented a company that is the second largest contractor in Iraq, having U.S. contracts worth $5.2 billion.

The sheriff of the county in which the shooting took place waited 14 hours to investigate.

The sheriff's investigation did not include interviewing the shooting victim.

The victim is the owner of the building in Austin that housed the Bush gubernatorial campaign headquarters and the private office of Karl Rove.

The office of the Vice President did not release a statement until two days after the shooting.

The White House press secretary, one of Barr McClellan's sons, purposely misled the press about the event and declared it was time "to move on."

The hospital administrator where the victim is being treated said that he did not know what all the fuss was about.

Everyone involved in keeping mum about the exact details of the shooting.

The victim is 78 years old and may die from the pellets permanently lodged in his body.

In short, it's Texas corruption and politics all over again.

(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)

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"(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)"

But, rest assured the neocons have their proverbial asses covered on this one, regardless of how fast news travels via the internet, today. After all, they can always counter that Attorney Whittington, was a colleague, and possibly a little doddering at his age of 78 years. Apparently the news services here on the Left Coast have already begun accusations that Whittington, "unwittingly" placed himself in the line of fire by walking diametrically ahead of Cheney, instead of diagonally, or however hunters are supposed to disperse themselves into the field. Operation Mockingbird in its finest form, at work! Oh, and it's a good thing they hadn't taken any dogs with them. They'd have to answer to PETA had Cheney shot one of the pointers, as well.

[Guest Stephen Turner]

The shooting took place on a ranch in south Texas.

No news was leaked out about it for 18 hours and then only to a local newspaper.

The news was leaked by a lobbyist who has represented a company that is the second largest contractor in Iraq, having U.S. contracts worth $5.2 billion.

The sheriff of the county in which the shooting took place waited 14 hours to investigate.

The sheriff's investigation did not include interviewing the shooting victim.

The victim is the owner of the building in Austin that housed the Bush gubernatorial campaign headquarters and the private office of Karl Rove.

The office of the Vice President did not release a statement until two days after the shooting.

The White House press secretary, one of Barr McClellan's sons, purposely misled the press about the event and declared it was time "to move on."

The hospital administrator where the victim is being treated said that he did not know what all the fuss was about.

Everyone involved in keeping mum about the exact details of the shooting.

The victim is 78 years old and may die from the pellets permanently lodged in his body.

In short, it's Texas corruption and politics all over again.

(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)

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"(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)"

But, rest assured the neocons have their proverbial asses covered on this one, regardless of how fast news travels via the internet, today. After all, they can always counter that Attorney Whittington, was a colleague, and possibly a little doddering at his age of 78 years. Apparently the news services here on the Left Coast have already begun accusations that Whittington, "unwittingly" placed himself in the line of fire by walking diametrically ahead of Cheney, instead of diagonally, or however hunters are supposed to disperse themselves into the field. Operation Mockingbird in its finest form, at work! Oh, and it's a good thing they hadn't taken any dogs with them. They'd have to answer to PETA had Cheney shot one of the pointers, as well.

I heard today (BBC news) that Whittington had been rushed to the emergency dept, after suffering a minor heart attack. Lets hope when he's discharged they dont take him out through the basement..

[Nancy Eldreth]

The shooting took place on a ranch in south Texas.

No news was leaked out about it for 18 hours and then only to a local newspaper.

The news was leaked by a lobbyist who has represented a company that is the second largest contractor in Iraq, having U.S. contracts worth $5.2 billion.

The sheriff of the county in which the shooting took place waited 14 hours to investigate.

The sheriff's investigation did not include interviewing the shooting victim.

The victim is the owner of the building in Austin that housed the Bush gubernatorial campaign headquarters and the private office of Karl Rove.

The office of the Vice President did not release a statement until two days after the shooting.

The White House press secretary, one of Barr McClellan's sons, purposely misled the press about the event and declared it was time "to move on."

The hospital administrator where the victim is being treated said that he did not know what all the fuss was about.

Everyone involved in keeping mum about the exact details of the shooting.

The victim is 78 years old and may die from the pellets permanently lodged in his body.

In short, it's Texas corruption and politics all over again.

(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)

*****************************************************************

"(If the victim dies, there will be an attempted cover-up at the local level that will ultimately fail because news travels too fast these days via the Internet in contrast to the 1960's.)"

But, rest assured the neocons have their proverbial asses covered on this one, regardless of how fast news travels via the internet, today. After all, they can always counter that Attorney Whittington, was a colleague, and possibly a little doddering at his age of 78 years. Apparently the news services here on the Left Coast have already begun accusations that Whittington, "unwittingly" placed himself in the line of fire by walking diametrically ahead of Cheney, instead of diagonally, or however hunters are supposed to disperse themselves into the field. Operation Mockingbird in its finest form, at work! Oh, and it's a good thing they hadn't taken any dogs with them. They'd have to answer to PETA had Cheney shot one of the pointers, as well.

Hunting laws are sort of like like driving a car laws. Anyone that is behind anyone regardless of what direction they come

from are responsible for someone in front of where the gun is pointed, aimed and fired.

So therefore Cheney is in the wrong no matter how anyone cuts any dice. Just like a car accident.

Back one can not in any way stiick anyone in front of them they are responsible.

The other fact if it was only 60 feet in distance from them an a man face is turned looking at you,

one should be able to notice who the person is from that distance I WOULD THINK SO.

IF that is the case and can be proven then Cheney should be faced with criminal charges.

Edited February 16, 2006 by Nancy Eldreth

[Nancy Eldreth]

Tim,

Curious how did you know Cheney drank? You are right, he did. Now to his amount of what

he claims well who knows?

Again he broke a law. They do seem to add up.

Any American Citizen that even got caught by a game warden would be fined on just the drinking

and game hunting combined. Guess he thinks and or is above the law because of who he is.

[Shanet Clark]

Cheney admits to "one beer"......... Tim Carroll is right,

this looks like a classic juvenile cover up.......