Items from the assassination that eat at me!

[Blair Dobson]

The Essentials; thanks, Stephen...I want to add, as others will of course, at least one more - one that has bugged ME no end: how did the team members on the Sixth Floor get out of the building? This has not been postulated to a sufficient degree anywhere of which I'm aware. I'm talking about a serious breakdown.

Regards, JG

Even notice you NEVER see pictures of the wooden loading dock (no longer there) in the back of the TSBD?

In fact, you never ever hear of it mentioned in the Warren Redact either.

The fire escape on the building. Very little info on this as well.

The roof of the TSBD was never searched or investigated to any great degree..

A few of my "peeves" are:

Who unlocked the parking lot (as the DPD had the keys to the gate) to let the shooter team in? Why was this never investigated to any great degree?

Why were none of the trunks of the cars in the TSBD/DPD parking lot ever searched or opened?

Why was there virtually no forensics on site (with the exception of the "nest" which is of course telling) ?

Why did they allow such easy access to Oswald? (well we know why now)

[Thomas H. Purvis]

Bubble bursting most appreciated, Tom. It's a pleasure to read from you on these historical issues. I am describing a part of the picture. I have noticed that the more organisational MSC documants point to a power center in New Orleans, so I know your summation is fuller.

MS did seem to contain a lot of ready and able though? (One account about a separate issue (an MSC document) describes an interview with a MS farmer who says something to the effect that if Bobby came to them he would get what they gave Kennedy in Dallas.)

# Elsewhere you have discussed the owner of Greyhound. Is (was) that a national company or by state. Who owned the Greyhound that ran from New Orleans to Jackson MS for example?

# Also Tom, can you comment on what 'Patsy' may have meant to Oswald, please? one source makes 'tricked' or cheated an acceptable definition. What would it have meant in the 1960's to Oswald?

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As far as the question of Butler goes, I know one can likely check your previous postings on this and find the answer, but a guess for now is Beauregard.

MS did seem to contain a lot of ready and able though? (One account about a separate issue (an MSC document) describes an interview with a MS farmer who says something to the effect that if Bobby came to them he would get what they gave Kennedy in Dallas

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Typical "redneck" talk. The "smart" one's do not run their mouth off about such things, they merely agitate the dumb one's into action, for which the dumb one's are usually caught and punished.

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Elsewhere you have discussed the owner of Greyhound. Is (was) that a national company or by state. Who owned the Greyhound that ran from New Orleans to Jackson MS for example?

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The reference to "Greyhound" was in regards to the acquisition of various commuter (city transportation systems) through a conspiracy which included the Greyhound Bus Company, Firestone Tire Company, Standard Oil Company; and Mack Truck (manufacturer of diesel engines for the bus's).

This "conspiracy" was found out and the Government interveined on the "monopolies" which were being formed.

Thereafter, to avoid the Government oversight, these entities went to private party individuals and financially backed their acquisition of such commuter services.

Such was the acquisition of the Miama, FL commuter system by William D. Pawley and conversion to Bus Service (elimination of electric cable cars which burned no diesel, had no rubber tires, and utilized no diesel engines).

Thereafter, Pawley, no doubt with the same financial backing, did the same thing with the Havana, Cuba commuter transportation system, and immediately coverted it from electric cable car to diesel bus transportation.

Since we have again broached the subject of William D. Pawley and his association with such as this, one should also not additional contacts of William D. Pawley:

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http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

La Gorce was completed in 1927, and within a year, received nationwide prominence when the Miami Beach – La Gorce open was played here, with Johnny Farrell, the winner.

In those early days, as well as those that followed, celebrities from throughout the country played La Gorce: Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Tex Rickard, John Golden, Babe Zaharias, Betty Hicks, Patty Berg, Eddie Rickenbacker, Will Rogers, Harvey Firestone, Gar Wood and Edgar Guest,

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

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# Also Tom, can you comment on what 'Patsy' may have meant to Oswald, please? one source makes 'tricked' or cheated an acceptable definition. What would it have meant in the 1960's to Oswald?

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PURE SPECULATION:

During the mid-50's and extending into the early 60's, our TV stations were flooded with a variety of shows which dealt with the "communist" threat as well as the "organized crime" element. This of course also extended into the movie network as well.

Most of which included the FBI in some way/shape/form, in which they were searching out for these criminals.

The term "Patsy" was a common term which was utilized throughout these movies when the "communist" and/or organized criminal was finally apprehended.

Therefore, considering LHO's particular likes for shows such as "I Led Three Lives" which dealt with Communist Spys, I personally find nothing that unusual in regards to his usage of what many (unfamiliar with this) would deem as quite unusual.

In fact, my (slightly old & frequently failing) memory seems to recall the absolute EXACT statement in one of these old TV shows.

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As far as the question of Butler goes, I know one can likely check your previous postings on this and find the answer, but a guess for now is Beauregard.

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http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/guides/...omen/swmna8.asp

By 1827 New York had two hundred lottery offices

By 1835 anti-lottery provisions had been written into the penal codes in many states and legal lotteries largely became a thing of the past

Into the new constitution of Louisiana, impoverished by the Civil War, was written: "The legislature shall have power to license the selling of lottery tickets and the keeping of gambling houses." The ball began to roll and on August 11, 1869, the Louisiana Lottery Company was chartered and entitled to operate for twenty-five years, provided that it paid the state $40,000 a year toward the maintenance of the Charity Hospital in New Orleans.

The popularity of the Havana Lottery, which sold as many tickets in New Orleans as at home, was such that carrier pigeons flew from Cuba each month with a list of the drawings and the names of the eleven winners of big prizes. The state had tried to get in on a share of this business, but ticket sellers did not keep strict or honest records and avoided paying more than they had to. Now, to protect the home lottery from Cuban competition, Louisiana prohibited sale of all outside lottery tickets.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Lottery

The Louisiana State Lottery Company was a private corporation that in the mid-19th century ran the Louisiana lottery

The company, initially a syndicate from New York was chartered on August 11, 1868

Charles Howard served as the first president, having previously worked for the Alabama Lottery and Kentucky State Lottery

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metairie_Cemetery

Metairie Cemetery

This site was previously a horse racing track, Metairie Race Course founded in 1838.

According to a story well known locally, one Charles T. Howard, a "new money" wealthy gentleman who came to the city from Baltimore, Maryland, was refused membership in the track's exclusive "Louisiana Jockey Club". In revenge, he purchased the track grounds and converted it into a cemetery. Some local historians accept the story, others say that the race grounds were sold due to financial stress. Either way, the cemetery was opened here in 1872, and the tomb of Charles T. Howard is prominently placed in the center.

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Notables buried in Metairie Cemetery include:

P.G.T. Beauregard, Confederate military officer

John Bell Hood, Confederate military officer

(See Civil War)

Marguerite Clark, stage & film actress

(See George DeMohrenschildt)

Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney

(See Circus)

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Davis, Jefferson Finis [original burial site] b. June 3, 1808 d. December 6, 1889

Civil War Confederate States President. He was the unrepentant highest ranking confederate leader of the South. The only Southern leader shackled in a dungeon and sacrificed as atonement for the sins of many. He refused to apply for a pardon because, he said, "I have not repented." Jefferson Davis maintained the right of the Southern cause to the end. In 1978, the United States Congress posthumously restored Davis's citizenship. By the time he died in New Orleans, he was the symbol of the...[Read More]

Metairie Cemetery, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, USA

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[James Richards]

Even notice you NEVER see pictures of the wooden loading dock (no longer there) in the back of the TSBD?

In fact, you never ever hear of it mentioned in the Warren Redact either.

The fire escape on the building. Very little info on this as well. (Blair Dobson)

Blair,

This image below gives us a look at the loading dock and the fire escape.

James