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#16 Dawn Meredith

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:23 PM

Dawn,

I was given some information on this matter of lack of security recently: Some time back, on a different thread someone asked if there was any source aside from Prouty as to any official  "stand down" order. There is now, but he's "off the record" at this time:Lumpkin, I was told,  had far more power then was hereto fore known. It was he who told Reserve Ltd. Whitmore and other necessary men (out of San Antonio) that their services would not be required, in other words " To stand down". Lumkin, had this authority "over the entire state of Tx" .  More later as I learn same from an unnamed source who was there, and in a capacity to know these matters. 

Thank you for this. It reinforces something that I have long suspected about Lumpkin.

Would you do me a favor?

Around 11:00 PM on November 22nd, a cable was sent from The Commanding General U.S. Continental Army Command to the Commander in Chief, U.S. Strike Command in Fort Macdill, FL. This cable summarized a telephone call between a Captain Saxton in U.S. Strike Command and a Lieutenant Colonel Fons in the 4th Army Headquarters, Fort Sam Houston, TX. Part of the information in this phone call contained the following:

"Assistant Chief Don Stringfellow, Intelligence Section, Dallas Police Department, notified 112th Intelligene Group, this Headquarters that information had been obtained from Oswald revealed he had defected to Cuba in 1959 and is card carrying member of Communist Party."

Now, we know that Don Stringfellow was just a Detective and not an Assistant Chief, but could you ask your source if Don Stringfellow was a liason from the Dallas Police Department to military intelligence?

Thanks,

Steve Thomas

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Steve:
I will ask. I am in an all day long continuing legal ed class for the next 3 days, 8-5 an hour north of me, so may not get to post much, but will ask re this.

Also, I did not post that last entry 3 times on purpose, when I tried to post it I kept getting "that page cannot be opened" showing that the site may be down, but I wanted this to be posted as I am about to walk out the door to my class. Sorry.

Dawn

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 11:56 PM

Hi Steve.

I find this to be a very interesting thread.

When you mention the lead car, does this reffer to the white car seen in the altgens photo. ?

Or is there another car some distance in front of that one. ?

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 01:57 AM

Shanet, Steve pointed you to my comments in the Lancer thread so you've got that - but to throw in a couple more observations:

1. Puterbaugh was introduced in various ways at various times by people who really didn't know him....he was an Ag Dept employee who was officially borrowed by the DNC and represented the DNC and by generalization the administration e.g. the White House staff although he was in no way attached to it. Whether all that is suspect is a completely different story and I happen to think it may have been even without Puterbaugh's knowledge...that takes you back to Cliff Carter who was standing behind the scenes coaching him (logically Carter himself would have been the logical political advance man and performed that function for Johnson both before and after the Texas trip....very experienced in that). However it does make sense that people introduced Puterbaugh in different ways - given that he traveled with Lawson and attended all the advance planning meetings, I expect many people assumed he was actually Secret Service.

2. No matter what we would all have wished, the DPD did not regard the motorcade as a security matter, they regarded it as a parade and as a traffic control challenge. You can see that in the morning instructions to the force, you can see it in many of Sneed's interviews with officers long after the fact. Its clear that security worries were about crowds and demonstrations at the Trade Mart - the DPD security chief was at the Trade Mart not with the motorcade and arrests had already been made there before the assassination. Previous violence in Dallas had all been when political targets were "on the street" in front of crowds - and there were special security precautions for that, we know that DPD built photo files of protestors and did special briefs for the door guards at the Trade Center. Based on history that made sense, as I have said repetitively (sorry) neither the Secret Service or DPD or likely any other law enforcement group had any history or experience with covert operations against public figures. You can see that in the primitive and pitiful way the SS handled threat intelligence - if somebody made a public threat against the President it got investigated, but only for that city, apparently the thought of even a lone nut "stalking" a President from place to place did not occur to them prior to Dallas.

3. Having mentioned my study of the 112th / MI which is available on CD I won't bore anybody but I think if you want to pursue that track you really ought to either check it out or get copies of the extensive investigation of the 112th conduced by the ARRB for yourself.

-- Larry


Steve,
Great stuff, as usual. Could you go over all that again and give
us your conclusions or hypothesis about what was going on?

From a first look, it seems that Whitmayer may have been
"out of the loop" a reserves MI guy who was not linked to
the 112th and the suspicious Texas MI/Ed Walker connected
Captain Sidwell.

What do you think was really going on?
Anybody else who has looked into this is encouraged to comment.

(great material lately --- thanks, everybody)

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 06:17 PM

Jim Marrs "Crossfire":

"A pilot car, which preceded the motorcade by a quarter of a mile
checking for 'motor accidents, fires and obstructions along the route'
contained Dallas Deputy police chief G.L. Lumpkin, two Dallas homicide
detectives, and Lt. Col. George Whitmayer, commander of the local
Army Intelligence reserve unit."

This, to me, is a very intriguing statement of fact. Has anyone looked
into this farther or developed any information concerning this car and its
official party of motorcade scouts?


Russ Baker's new book, Family of Secrets, has some information on Whitmayer. In 1956 Jack Crichton, a close friend of George W. W. Bush, started up his own spy unit, the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment. Crichton served as the unit's commander under Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer, who was in overall command of all Army Reserve units in East Texas.

According to Fabian Escalante (The Secret War: CIA Covert Operations Against Cuba, 1959-62), in 1959, Crichton and Bush raised funds for the CIA's Operation 40. Originally it was set up to organize sabotage operations against Fidel Castro and his Cuban government. However, it evolved into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed: "this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally, assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if necessary some of your own members who were suspected of being foreign agents... We were concentrating strictly in Cuba at that particular time."

In November 1963 Jack Crichton was involved in the arrangements of the visit that Kennedy made to Dallas. His close friend, Deputy Police Chief George L. Lumpkin, and a fellow member of the Dallas Army Intelligence Reserve Unit, drove the pilot car of Kennedy's motorcade. Also in the car was Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer.

In the Warren Commission Report it stated that Jack Crichton arranged for a member of the local Russian community, Ilya Mamantov, to work for the Dallas Police Department as a translator for Russian-born Marina Oswald shortly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Crichton's volunteer translated for Oswald during her initial questioning by the Dallas authorities in the hours immediately after her husband Lee Harvey Oswald had been arrested. According to Russ Baker, the author of Family of Secrets (2009), there "were far from literal translations of her Russian words and had the effect of implicating her husband in Kennedy's death."

Jack Crichton died in Dallas last month.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 09:52 PM

When the Advance Car stopped at Houston and Elm, which Dallas police officer did those in the car talk to? - W.E. Barnett, Edgar L. Smith or Joe M. Smith?

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 12:54 PM

When the Advance Car stopped at Houston and Elm, which Dallas police officer did those in the car talk to? - W.E. Barnett, Edgar L. Smith or Joe M. Smith?

Bk


Is there any mention of the stop the advance car made at Houston and Elm in any of the reports?

Why did the car stop?

Who did they talk to? One of the three cops - Barnette, EL Smith or Joe Smith?

And what did they say?

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 06:54 AM

Shanet, Steve pointed you to my comments in the Lancer thread so you've got that - but to throw in a couple more observations:

1. Puterbaugh was introduced in various ways at various times by people who really didn't know him....he was an Ag Dept employee who was officially borrowed by the DNC and represented the DNC and by generalization the administration e.g. the White House staff although he was in no way attached to it. Whether all that is suspect is a completely different story and I happen to think it may have been even without Puterbaugh's knowledge...that takes you back to Cliff Carter who was standing behind the scenes coaching him (logically Carter himself would have been the logical political advance man and performed that function for Johnson both before and after the Texas trip....very experienced in that). However it does make sense that people introduced Puterbaugh in different ways - given that he traveled with Lawson and attended all the advance planning meetings, I expect many people assumed he was actually Secret Service.

2. No matter what we would all have wished, the DPD did not regard the motorcade as a security matter, they regarded it as a parade and as a traffic control challenge. You can see that in the morning instructions to the force, you can see it in many of Sneed's interviews with officers long after the fact. Its clear that security worries were about crowds and demonstrations at the Trade Mart - the DPD security chief was at the Trade Mart not with the motorcade and arrests had already been made there before the assassination. Previous violence in Dallas had all been when political targets were "on the street" in front of crowds - and there were special security precautions for that, we know that DPD built photo files of protestors and did special briefs for the door guards at the Trade Center. Based on history that made sense, as I have said repetitively (sorry) neither the Secret Service or DPD or likely any other law enforcement group had any history or experience with covert operations against public figures. You can see that in the primitive and pitiful way the SS handled threat intelligence - if somebody made a public threat against the President it got investigated, but only for that city, apparently the thought of even a lone nut "stalking" a President from place to place did not occur to them prior to Dallas.

3. Having mentioned my study of the 112th / MI which is available on CD I won't bore anybody but I think if you want to pursue that track you really ought to either check it out or get copies of the extensive investigation of the 112th conduced by the ARRB for yourself.

-- Larry


Steve,
Great stuff, as usual. Could you go over all that again and give
us your conclusions or hypothesis about what was going on?

From a first look, it seems that Whitmayer may have been
"out of the loop" a reserves MI guy who was not linked to
the 112th and the suspicious Texas MI/Ed Walker connected
Captain Sidwell.

What do you think was really going on?
Anybody else who has looked into this is encouraged to comment.

(great material lately --- thanks, everybody)



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Posted 22 January 2011 - 06:41 AM

Can anyone supply an obit for Lt. Col. George Whitmeyer (and will an administrator please correct the spelling in the topic heading?) Thanks,

BK

RIP April 18, 1978

Also need obit for George L. Lumplin (RIP July 15, 1994)

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 08:48 AM

VERY interesting topic going on here. Thanks a ton guys for the research and sharing. I remember learning how close Bush and Crichton were and of course Crichton serving under Whitmayer.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:16 AM

VERY interesting topic going on here. Thanks a ton guys for the research and sharing. I remember learning how close Bush and Crichton were and of course Crichton serving under Whitmayer.

Lt Col George L Whitmeyer's obituary seems a little hard to come by.


Orlando Sentinel, The (FL) - October 13, 1993
Deceased Name: IRA GEARHART
IRA GEARHART, 83, 900 Canada St. N.E., Palm Bay, died Sunday, Oct. 10. Mr. Gearhart was a cryptographer for the civil service. Born in Plumville, Pa., he moved to Central Florida in 1964. Mr. Gearhart was retired from the Army. Survivors: daughter, Sally Gearhart Gillmore, Chesterland, Ohio; four grandchildren; three great-grandchildren; sister, Olive Gearhart Fuller, Akron, Ohio; brother, Russell, Arkon. Brownlie & Maxwell Funeral Home, Melbourne.



Washington Post, The (DC) - May 22, 1994
Deceased Name: PERDUE W. LAWRENCE -- Kennedy Motorcade Officer
Perdue W. Lawrence, 82, the Dallas police captain who was in the lead car of the presidential motorcade the day President Kennedy was assassinated, died May 15 in Cleburne, Tex. The cause of death was not reported.
Capt. Lawrence kept meticulous notes of the day's events and was one of the first witnesses before the Warren Commission. He retired in 1966

Dallas Morning News, The (TX) - July 18, 1994
Deceased Name: Services today for George Lumpkin , 40-year member of Dallas police force
Retired Dallas police Capt. George Lumpkin, 84, died Friday of cancer. Services will be at 4 p.m. Monday at Restland Memorial Chapel in Dallas.
Mr. Lumpkin served for 40 years in the Police Department and played a significant role in the investigation of President John F. Kennedy's assassination, his family said.
"Dad was in the lead car of the motorcade," said his daughter, Maureen Stone. "He was also one of the first to reach the hospital when Kennedy was shot."
He also served 39 months in the Army during World War II, receiving the Bronze Star for taking part the capture of 30 prisoners, his daughter said.
"He captured them without killing them," Mrs. Stone said. "My father believed in not using guns unless necessary."
He retired as a colonel from the Army Reserves and was awarded the Legion of Merit for his service as commandant of the Dallas Area Army Reserve School.
Other survivors include his wife, Katherine Lumpkin; son Michael Lumpkin of Dallas; sister Mildred Bunch of Arlington; six grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren.


There are several Whitmeyer's listed here
http://www.rootsweb..../fairmount.html
although something tells me that is another branch of the family,
from what I can tell I believe his obituary would turn up near
Tyler, Texas.

According to a very detailed article on the website below the pilot car
was a "White Ford Sedan," it should definitely be noted that the Lead car,
according to the same article was "an unmarked white Ford police sedan"
See
http://www.worldling...y_assassination

It may come as a surprise, but Jim Bishop's The Day Kennedy Died
seems to have more passages related to the pilot car than
Manchester's Death of A President.......
Even though I believe DOAP is an infinitely better book......
I was looking through it today, and there are passages
that are amazing, even for someone who
knows a lot regarding the assassination.
Although the following does not have to do with the pilot car,
I had never heard of the following, I think it deserves to be included
in the Air Force One Transmissions thread.

The Day Kennedy Was Shot Jack Jove cited pages 121-123, 318; by Bishop, Jim (1968)
Jack Jove stood in the glass octagonal tower and watched the Clipper coming, head on, with about 20-degree flaps, like a dragonfly trailing a dirty veil.
It was over the skyscrapers of downtown Dallas, dropping steadily. The overhead speaker crackled and the first officer gave his call letters and said, " . . . . on final 31 right."
Jove, chief of FAA at Love Field, watched five of his men work the consoles. A radar man below had the plane on scope and said: "Okay, Pan American Clipper 729."
It was obvious to Jove that, in flight, the three presidential planes had spread further apart. They had taken off from Carswell at two-minute intervals but radar showed that the Clipper had come in a little faster; the Vice-President's AF-2 had swung wide to the right, which gave it additional space; and Colonel Swindall had climbed to 7,000 feet to ease the moderate turbulence and held the speed down to a minimum.
Mr Jove liked that. A little spacing never hurt any aircraft. He was a dark wavy-haired man with an office below the tower, but he wanted to be in the tower this time. Two weeks ago, the Air Force had sent Major Charles Nedbal to Jove to work out the entire procedure. It was a nothing flight, from nowhere to nowhere in no time, but Nedbal wanted to know where the fire trucks and ambulance would be stationed, whether they could follow the plane on an apron runway without being hit by jet blast, who would man the "Follow Me" jeep, what turns would be made, and where each of the three planes would come to rest.
He also had to know and report on departure procedures when the President had finished his Trade Mart speech; what gate; what minute of what hour; what commercial jets might be taking off or landing at Love Field at 2:45 P.M.; when he could have a weather projection for Nov. 22, 1963, and what would be the three favored flight plans direct to Bergstrom Air Force Base at Austin, Texas
..........There was a parking area for 1,666 automobiles, but it was not enough and there was contention between the police and the residents. Love was used by several airlines the main ones were American, Braniff, Delta, and Eastern. Mr Jove used his binoculars and could see mechanics on the opposite side of the field dropping work to come out on the apron.





Has anyone ever heard of this guy, Jack Jove?

Edited by Robert Howard, 22 January 2011 - 10:29 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:02 PM

The Day Kennedy Was Shot Jack Jove cited pages 121-123, 318; by Bishop, Jim (1968)
Jack Jove stood in the glass octagonal tower and watched the Clipper coming, head on, with about 20-degree flaps, like a dragonfly trailing a dirty veil.
It was over the skyscrapers of downtown Dallas, dropping steadily. The overhead speaker crackled and the first officer gave his call letters and said, " . . . . on final 31 right."
Jove, chief of FAA at Love Field, watched five of his men work the consoles. A radar man below had the plane on scope and said: "Okay, Pan American Clipper 729."
It was obvious to Jove that, in flight, the three presidential planes had spread further apart. They had taken off from Carswell at two-minute intervals but radar showed that the Clipper had come in a little faster; the Vice-President's AF-2 had swung wide to the right, which gave it additional space; and Colonel Swindall had climbed to 7,000 feet to ease the moderate turbulence and held the speed down to a minimum.
Mr Jove liked that. A little spacing never hurt any aircraft. He was a dark wavy-haired man with an office below the tower, but he wanted to be in the tower this time. Two weeks ago, the Air Force had sent Major Charles Nedbal to Jove to work out the entire procedure. It was a nothing flight, from nowhere to nowhere in no time, but Nedbal wanted to know where the fire trucks and ambulance would be stationed, whether they could follow the plane on an apron runway without being hit by jet blast, who would man the "Follow Me" jeep, what turns would be made, and where each of the three planes would come to rest.
He also had to know and report on departure procedures when the President had finished his Trade Mart speech; what gate; what minute of what hour; what commercial jets might be taking off or landing at Love Field at 2:45 P.M.; when he could have a weather projection for Nov. 22, 1963, and what would be the three favored flight plans direct to Bergstrom Air Force Base at Austin, Texas
..........There was a parking area for 1,666 automobiles, but it was not enough and there was contention between the police and the residents. Love was used by several airlines the main ones were American, Braniff, Delta, and Eastern. Mr Jove used his binoculars and could see mechanics on the opposite side of the field dropping work to come out on the apron.





Has anyone ever heard of this guy, Jack Jove?

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Guess Not.......

A Followup.........

Whitmeyer, Frances Raby was born February 21, 1922 and passed away April 4, 2009. Frances was born in Athens, Alabama to S.W. and Donna Raby. She graduated from Alabama Women's College in Athens. She moved to New Orleans and worked for the Lykes Steamship Co. and also for the City of New Orleans helping to translate French law into English. She later married George Whitmeyer and they moved to Germany where he was stationed after the war. They moved to Fort Worth in 1961 and then to Dallas in 1963. She pursued her love of antiques by first working for a silver dealer and eventually opening her own business in the 1960's on Sale St. and Dickason. She later moved her shop to Milam and N. Henderson. She loved the antique business and made so many friends during those years. She also was an estate appraiser. Her husband George, Sr. and her youngest son, Glenn, preceded her in death. She is survived by her son George, Jr., daughter-in-law Cindy and granddaughters Lindsey and Allison. A graveside service will be held Tuesday, April 7, 2009 at 1:00 p.m. at Restland Memorial Park.
END





DMN April 19, 1978
Whitmeyer, George L., Sr., 5301
Mockingbird Lane, Survived by
wife, Frances Whitmeyer; Son,
George Whitmeyer, Jr., Glenn
Whitmeyer, Dallas; brothers
John Whitmeyer, Roselle Park, N.J.,
Victor Whitmeyer, Cranford N.J.,
sisters, Helen Arthur Kenilworth,
N.J., Louise William,
Philadelphia, Pa., Services 2:00 pm
Thursday RESTLAND WILDWOOD
CHAPEL, Greenville Ave. at
Restland Rd., Internment Restland
Memorial Park Full
military graveside service
Restland Laureland
Greenville Ave. at Restland Rd
238-7111
END

mary ferrell's website bio of Whitmeyer,
is reposted here, "WC Vol 21, p. 578; WC Vol 24, pp. 295, 323; CIA 1642-1092 re "military assistant" to
J. Walton Moore of CIA; Dallas Morning News, Wednesday, April 19, 1978, p. 5-D.
Mary's Comments: He rode in Pilot Car in 11/22/63 motorcade. Was he the "military assistant" assigned to
assist J. Walton Moore in running the Dallas CIA office? 1963-1964 City Directories list him as
Area Commander USA Reserve Training Center. In 1963, his wife Frances Raby Whitmeyer had a gift shop
in [the Dallas] Trade Mart. There was a rumor that FBI set up command post in her shop on 11/22/63.
[Robert: i could really go places on this rumor business, if anyone really knows the name of the shop.]


FBI 62-109060 JFK HQ File, Section 8 pg 28

Found in: FBI JFK Assassination File (62-109060)
At 3:25 pm November 24, 1963 Supervisor J.W. Burns telephonically contacted SAC Harry Maynor
of the New Orleans office with reference to the allegation of Airman Second Class Palmer McBride
who had worked with Oswald as delivery boy for Pfisterer Dental Laboratory, New Orleans, Louisiana,
from 1957 to 1958 at which time according to McBride Oswald was preaching the communist doctrine
and stated he would like to kill President Eisenhower in view of "Eisenhower's exploitation of working
people."
http://www.maryferre...58&relPageId=28


Defector [pfc.] Bruce F. Davis from 18 August 1960 to 19 July 1963
after leaving the Soviet Union he was given a lie-detector test on August 9, 1963 while at
the Frankfort Post Stockade, the INTC groups are clearly shown in the document referenced
when Oswald was in the Soviet Union, he had been primarily at Minsk, whereas Davis
was at the Kiev Institute of Technology for some 34 months.
below.....
Frankfurt Joint Interrogation Center (JIC) and the 513th INTC Group APO (757) U S Forces.
this document was prepared by Clay R Sturn 66th INTC Group
http://www.maryferre...16&relPageId=86

Robert: Palmer McBride had met a "Lee Oswald" in 1956;
(references Warren Report, 360; CE 1386; CD 75, pp. 16, 251-254, 325, 495-498; Lee, Robert Oswald, 76)
At the time of the assassination he was "an Airman Second Class in the United States Air Force at Patrick
Air Force Base in Florida." Without expounding on the possibility of whether McBride knew "the" Lee
Oswald, or an Oswald double, what I believe can be proven to a degree, is that the document in which
McBride is referenced as saying Oswald wanted to kill Eisenhower was forwarded by the San Antonio
office of the 112th MI Group, to Dallas within a very short time after Oswald was in the custody of the
Dallas Police Department.


DMN 11-16-1965
10 Dallas reserve Units Included In Inactivation
By Gene Ormsby
Fourteen Army Reserve units in Dallas, including 10 in the 90th Infantry Division,
are scheduled to be inactivated immediately, Major Gen. William R. Calhoun
commander of the Eighth U.S. Army Corps said Monday in Austin.
Some 1,000 reservists are attached to these units, but one local military
source said other units may be moved in from other areas to help absorb
the personnel.
Dallas bases with the 90th Infantry Division which would be inactivated
by the Pentagon order include:
HEADQUARTERS DIVISION ARTILLERY; Headquarters and Headquarters
Co., 3rd Infantry Brigade; 90th Division Band; Military Police Co.;
Headquarters and Service Battery, Battery A and B of the 3rd Howitzer
Battalion, 12th Artillery; Co. D of the 790th Maintenance Battalion;
Headquarters and Headquarters Co. and Co. A of the 1st Battalion,
359th Infantry; Co. A of the 2nd Battalion 359th Infantry;
All of these units are based at the Muchert Reserve Center
10031 E. Northwest Highway, and include about 800 reservists.
Other units expected to get the ax include the 363rd Engineering
Group's Headquarters and Headquarters Detachment;
the 327th Military Intelligence Detachment (Armed Forces
Censorship) the 406th Military Intelligence Detachment
(Armed Forces Censorship) and Co. B of the 719th
Transportation Battalion, all based at the Herzog Reserve Center
at 4900 S. Lancaster.
Lt. Col. George L. Whitmeyer, deputy East Texas sector commander
said the same units were listed more than a month ago by
Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara as the ones to be disbanded.
McNamara announced at that time that the 90th Infantry Division
would be disbanded
Whitmeyer said he had not received confirmation of the orders from
Gen. Calhoun, but said they could take place in the next two to three
months. The Colonel speculated that in another location where the
unit is sharing facilities with a 90th Division unit which is being
disbanded the remaining outfit might be moved to another location,
hopefully Dallas.
"I hope they have something in mind to offset the loss," Whitmeyer
said.
Dallas personnel in the abolished units may be able to transfer to
remaining reserve units to complete their military obligation,
Calhoun said.
Other alternatives include enrollment in an Army Reserve school
or transfer to National Guard units or to a ready reserve
reinforcement pool.
Calhoun said the ready reserves or "select force"
will qualify members for a 50 per cent increase in drill pay
as announced by the Pentagon.
150,000 reservists and Guardsmen will compose the
full strength force.
"I do not anticipate that all Dallas personnel will find a vacancy
in other reserves of the Guard." Calhoun added. "If they cannot,
school courses leading to retirement will be made available."
Col. George Lumpkin, a member of the Dallas police force is head of the Dallas
Reserve School.



google books The Eccentric Genius, Trammell Crow
and How He's Changed the Face of America.
by Joseph Nocera

Texas Monthly Aug 1984
page 202, By the mid-fifties Crow was the biggest warehouse builder
in Dallas and on his way to becoming the biggest in the country. But a
little of the thrill was gone; so he turned to other pursuits:
he made an ill fated attempt to build a bus line;
he began building parking garages with Eugene Locke, the well-known
attorney who would later become US Ambassador to Pakistan; he constructed
a small decorative center in the Trinity Industrial District to house a
number of rug manufacturers. And in 1956 he got involved in the project
that would mark the next big turning point in his career.
He decided to build the Homefurnishings Mart.
Robert: Comment;
The Homefurnishings Mart was a unique concept for the time, the article
mentions his travels to Chicago and North Carolina; the idea which translated
to a cost of 5.6. million dollars, was so successful that by 1958,
he had to build the Dallas Trade Mart.


And on and on and on........

see google books mojo on the edge
Mother Jones Magazine May/June 1995
Help Wanted Spying on Allies
"The CIA's economic spies are currently
active in Japan, Western Europe and key
developing countries like Mexico, Brazil
India and the countries in the Middle East.
The recent spy scandal in France exposed
four U.S. diplomats and a NOC*— an American
woman working as a public relations executive
for the Dallas Market Center owned by
international real estate mogul Trammell Crow.
She was accused of trying to recruit and bribe
French corporate and government officials
to pass technology secrets to the CIA."
* Non-official cover
Also See
The CIA Crosses Over
http://motherjones.c...ia-crosses-over

Pondering the future, while wondering what became of George Orwell or
Does anyone remember that the "1984" Republican Convention was held in Dallas.



As a final point to consider, insofar as
just how well the circles of who knew who
back in those days specifically pre-1963
Dallas, consider Jack Ruby and the whole
Atomic Energy issue, the following
excerpt reveals just how essential
at least a rudimentary knowledge
of Warren Commission documents
are.
What can be gleaned is that the complexity
of understanding Lee Harvey Oswald
and Jack Ruby is made more confusing
by the lack of objective accounts
of what their motivations were,
according to their own words.
For Instance, There are multiple
assertions that "Oswald said,
he wanted John Abt to represent
him," but if you pay attention to detail
you will discover, the only assurance
we have of this is "what other people
said Oswald said;"
I believe it is far from certain that Oswald
even said that, nevertheless
the same point should be kept in mind when
reading the following excerpts from CD 732
:
Jack Ruby is simply a contact point for these
persons, what I believe is really interesting
is the fact that Chance-Vought is not exactly
unheard of in JFK lore
CD 732 - FBI Letter from Director of 07 Apr 1964 with Attachments; 24 pages
Letter to Lee Rankin from J Edgar Hoover
In response to your letter of March 3, 1964, a thorough search was made of all FBI records. Copies of all the records located wherein mention is made of Ruby prior to Nov. 23, 1963 have been prepared and are being forwarded to you.
Item 1 Information indicating that in March 1962 Ruby was the owner of the Carousel Club. This information was developed in connection with a survey of crime conditions in the Dallas Division.
Item 2 Information obtained from a confidential source during the course of an investigation concerning Ralph Eugene Young [3110 North Clybourn, Chicago, Ill.] which related to a possible violation of the Atomic Energy Act. The investigation was conducted in 1950.
Item 3 Information furnished by Bunny Breen.....
Item 4 Information obtained from Lt Jack Revill on July 9, 1959......
Item 5 Information obtained from......
Item 6 An interview with Jean Bostick on September 25, 1961.
Item 7 An interview with Mrs. Sue Brown on November 13, 1962
Item 8 Information submitted by Special Agent Ralph J Miles .......
Item 9 Information obtained from a confidential source.....
Item 10 The description of Jack Ruby.......
He did not furnish any information and further contacts with him were discontinued
A confidential source exhibited the records of the Ambassador Hotel which reflected that Ralph Young 3110 North Clybourn, Chicago, Ill., was registered in apartment 321, John E Wahl Engineering Co., and Russ Products Co., The source stated that had been brought to Dallas along with R. M. Piper, Fred N. Ruic, Charles Campbell, Donald Henry Mars, Leo Stukas, and Pat Henry Roethe by L. A. Robinson. It was the source's understanding that these individuals had been brought to Dallas by Robinson for employment with the Chance Vought Company.
Joyce Skillman R. H. Hopkins
LO-2841 Barba Carden, 4113 Hyer, Apartment 26
(It is to be noted that this call was to the original informant in instant matter and was dated Oct. 3, 1950 which substantiates the allegation of informant that she was called by Ralph E. Young on the morning of Oct. 3, 1950, from the Ambassador Hotel, Room 321.
also see DMN 12/16/1951
Engineering Company Leases Industrial District Building;
also see CD 1100 where it states:
1950 relative to Ralph Eugene Young who was suspected of violating the Atomic Energy Act.
In October and November 1950 investigation was conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation concerning a possible violation of the Atomic Energy Act by Ralph Eugene Young and Joyce Skillman, both then residing at the Ambassador Hotel in Dallas, Texas. This investigation was instituted when one Barba Carden, 4113 Hyer Street advised Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that she and Skillman had been hired as stenographers by a private contractor at Los Alamos, New Mexico and were leaving Dallas soon thereafter to take up this employment. Miss Carden advised she had learned through Skillman and Young that the latter was endeavoring to ascertain information concerning various activities at Los Alamos, New Mexico. On October 6, 1950, Lillian Louise Kness, room clerk at Ambassador Hotel
in Dallas, advised agents she suspected Joyce Skillman and Ralph Eugene Young of engaging in the obtaining of secret government information, based on Skillman's unusual interest in servicemen and engineers staying at the hotel and Skillman's friendliness with Young. Max Moore, Plant Protection Division, Chance-Vought Aircraft Company, Grand Prairie, Texas, advised during the course of the investigation that Young was one of several employees hired through the John E Wahl Company of Chicago, an employing agency for engineers hired by Chance-Vought. Young was hired as a draftsmen.
Ralph Eugene Young was interviewed by a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on October 27, 1950. He said his interest in Los Alamos was prompted by a desire to promote the formation of a new company at Los Alamos, similar to the John E. Wahl Company of Chicago. The purpose of such a company would be to furnish engineers to various companies at Los Alomos, and, in order to promote the formation of such a business, he had attempted to secure the identities of the companies at Los Alamos which were doing work which required the service of engineers. He said he had asked Joyce Skillman to obtain this information for him, as she was to be employed at Los Alamos.
Young stated he had no desire to violate any of the laws of the United States and had no interest in Los Alamos other than as stated. During the course of the above investigation it was learned that among telephone calls made by Ralph Young
was one made to HA-3654.* It was further determined that this number was to the Silver Spur Club
* For a long time I thought that there was a missing digit regarding this phone number, but what I believe
is the case, is that in this time frame [1950], phone numbers in the Dallas area, were actually only six digits.
I am still not 100% about that, but I believe that is the case........
It also is good to remember "Oswald's alleged signature on a register at the Atomic Energy Museum, wonder
where the inspiration for that came from....I believe it had something to do with the above lol
I have several irons in the fire, but the Tippit thread and others will be updated......

Edited by Robert Howard, 11 February 2011 - 04:55 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:51 AM

Who is George Stratemeyer? On another thread he is mentioned as being in the pilot car. Does anyone have any info on this?




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