Bernice Moore

JFK - Civil Rights - June 11, 1963 - Part 1/2

Search on dennis's site for all available powell documents, and perhaps his photo which i have lost or the gremlin ate another...??? b

http://jfkassassinationfiles.com/other_powell_documents thanks to dennis..morrisette..( sp)

Nagel fpcc..

From Dallas Newspaper...

james powell.mi the Millitary Intelligence.....

robert e.jones hsca.......http://www.history-m...jones_0001a.htm

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When it emerged in the 70's that the Army had been conducting serveillance and keeping files on thousands of American citizens ,in the name of national security....Congressman Richardson Preyer soon after the Assassination Committee learned that the records on the Oswald "Hiddell: file had been destroyed and that this file had existed before the assassination..when contacted he stated that "There have been instances of files being, I guess you could say maliciously witheld or even destroyed..We don't know what the motive is and it's this kind of problem we run into.The Pentagon had destroyed it's Kennedy assassination files, the Army file on the Kennedy assassination has been destroyed,and we don't know why it was done.' For some this raises the spector that by their conduct the American Intelligence agencies were involved in the assassination. of the President, and that his murder was a Coup d'etat..There is doubt though ,that it's leadership would have had involvement as a group .

In 1979 the A.C concluded bluntly in fact, that neither the SS nor the FBI nor the CIA were involved as organizations..It made no reference in it's main findings to the military.The Committee did though consider evidence that individual members of the agencies might have had prior covert associaions with Oswald and even played a role in the assassination...

The Warren Commission simply stated " Close scrutiny of the records of the Federal Agencies involved and the testimony of the responsible officials of the U.S.Government establish that there was absolutely no type of informant or undercover relationship between and agency of the U.S. Government and Lee Harvey Oswald at any time"...

Today we see with the wake of Watergate and a stream of CIA scandals....the WC did not see all the records, and as we know now some of the "responsible officials," consulted have been exsposed as being extremely irresponsible..and may I use the word criminal in their actions.

As an example:

Allan Dulles ..in the transcript from one of the WC executive meetings

realeased only in 1975..gives a good exposing light on the CIA's attitude on the ethics of public esposure..on how he as a former Head of the CIA would deal with agents that had been recruited:

""Dulles:.........he wouldn't tell.

Chief Justice Warren : Wouldn't he tell it under oath?

Dulles: I wouldn't think he would tell it under oath, no.

Chairman: Why?

Dulles: He ought not to tell it under oath. Maybe not tell it to his own government, but wouldn't tell it any other way.

Chairman: Wouldn't he tell it to his own chief ?.

Dulles" He might or he might not.""(1)

A Warren Commission story ,associated with document 1133..

In 1975...Seth Kantor a Washington newspaper correspondent ,discovered that the FBI was still holding back this 1133 document ..he found out that this information was in reference to his own record of telephone calls he had made from Dallas the afternoon of the assassination.

He found out that the reason why stated that this state secret might "reveal the identity of confidential sources of information"...Kantor was then instilled with the desire to find out exactly what his information would reveal..and having his own notes from that afternoon saved, he began to cross check ...after time he was given the document ,which contained the information that he had placed some phone calls drom the Dallas City Hall, Parkland Hospital and the airport at Love Field....of course the FBI said that it was a beaurocratic blunder ,that it had not been released......But when checking all Kantor found there was a call he had made from the City to a Florida number, Coral Gables MO 5-6473....and it was the phone number of one Hal Hendrix..he was a Miami journalist and did work for Kantor's newspaper group. Hendrix had offered information on Oswald,and so on the afternoon of the assassination, in Dallas...Kantor received information on his past, his defection to Russia, ,his involvement with the pro-Catro activists ,when he had returned and such..now this information would become known soon enough, but this shows that Hal Hendrix was no ordinary journalist..He had even won a Pulitzer in 1963 for his work on the coverage of the Cuban Missile Crissis in 1962......

But on Sept 24th,1963.... he was scathingly brilliant by describing the coup that busted pro-Kennedy President Borsch of the Dominican Republic....The brilliance of his reporting was that he described and justified this coup in his article ........24 hours BEFORE it happened.....

Hendrix had a source at Homestead Airforce Base, south of Miami...a CIA source.As the years passed, Hendrix became know to be the "Spook" amongst his Washington colleagues.because of his known relationship with American Intelligence...But it became known publicly and in 1976 he pleaded guilty to witholding information in relation to a Senate Committee investigation that linked multinnational corporations in co-operation with the CIA.He lied to the Senate Committee in collusion with the CIA concealing his access to them and their information....This man who knew too much about LHO the afternoon of the assassination was protected by the FBI for 12 years..till Seth Kantor had his information released.....(2)

As has been related previously we know that within the file the US Army Intelligence had on Oswald "Hidell" before the assassination ,contained information re the address of 605 Elsbeth and within a very short time of the assassination...this information became known to Lt Jack Revill DPD.

Military Agents were present in Dealey Plaza that Friday, it is now stated in some books that they had been requested as back up for the SS.

On Nov.22/63 in San Antonio, a Lt. Colonel Robert Jones was on duty as operations officer ,for the 112th Military Intelligence Group and as he heard the report of the assassination, he urgently asked for information from his men for any information from the men at the scene of the killing. He received an early afternoon phone call "advising that a A.J.Hidell had been arrested..." ..Published information does not suggest that the name "Oswald" was used..though both names were on id cards within Oswald's wallet..Jones states that he soon found the file on "Hidell" within military intelligence and it cross-referenced with a file on "Lee Harvey Oswald"..also know as A.J.Hidell.....It contained the information about his past including Russia, and New Orleans....

According to Jones testimony ,the summary of such within the Assassinations Committee, he states the file had been opened in mid-63 "under the names Lee Harvey Oswald and A.J.Hidell, following a NOPD report of his activities in support of Castro..Lt Jones, got on the phone and spoke to FBI Agent-in-Charge Gordon Shanklin..(3)Jones then wrote his report and as far as his work was concerned that summarized all...on his end. The AC said it found his testimony "credible:....however there is a flaw.of all the known facts about LHO's use of the Hidell name .......Jones states that "Hidell" was a name used by Oswald and therefore that is why the intelligence file contained both names. However ............Oswald did not use the name Hidell as an alias in New Orleans..nor anywhere is it found in the massive documentation of his life .(4).there are no references to that name until a "rifle" was ordered from Klein's ,and the pistol he is accused of using to kill Officer Tippit..Therefore if his testimony is correct the Army Intell had knowledge of the separate use of the name "Hidell" by Oswald or they knew of the name being used to buy the guns before the assassination....but the file had been destroyed........and without access the knowledge of Oswald's' affiliations with them is conveniently gone....

*** "FBI..records show Jones telling the FBI that Hidell was an associate of Oswald ,not a name used as an alias."

It is also now clear and certain that the CIA had interest and involvement in the left wing groups..but that Army Intelligence also had "operational interest" in these groups as well, including the FPCC .The Intelligence Committee found at least one case that a government informant was "fronting" as a Castro supporter. while being a source of Army Intelligence.

After the assassination of the President these agencies the FBI, CIA and AI all failed to make accessible any information to the official inquiry..The AI deserved special attention seeing that the AC revealed it had a file on Oswald and Hidell...and had destroyed all.(5) The Army of course said that it was destroyed along with the normal file management .Congressman Richard Preyer Chairman of the Assassination Committee in 1978 ,when he spoke to the author related that........."Secretary ( Melvin R.) Laird in 1971, after all the charges concerning Army spying, ordered that the spying be stopped and those files destroyed ...

Perhaps as a part of that destruction, the Kennedy files were also destroyed at that time.".....The report on the AC stated that the Army's actions had made it impossible to correlate from documentary evidence whether LHO had an "affiliation with army intelligence" It did not though say anything about the "spying" that the Congressman had mentioned to the author..

"Conspiracy:: Anthony Summers: 1980,81,89.with updsate 91..pages: 60-61,104-5-6,275-6-7,

1:Preyer author interview..Dulles: WC Exec Session,Jan27/64

2:Kantor and Hendrix:"Kantor" p.198 .."Bayo Pawley Affair", Soldier of Fortune,1976.

3: "Hidell" and the Military Intelligence: Paul Hoch memo on "Army Intelligence, A.J.Hidell, and the FBI," Oct.8.1977" FBI document 10582555 ( unrecorded) ( original) in 62-109060-811): "Dallas Morning News", March 19,1978:HSCA Report p.221..( Oswald both names in wallet: V1.228.

4:Oswald does appear to have used the name "Hidell" while living in New Orleans however not as an alias.The name A.J.Hidell does appear as chapter president on his FPCC card which he did show to police after his arrest there .It also appears on an FPCC leaflet distributed in New Orleans .Handwriting experts on the HSCA (V111.238) were of the opinion that the signature was of Marina Oswalds..The point being that Oswald was using the Hidell .....whether he existed or not....as someone other than himself ?? The name was also found in his index cards along with his cards for real people..(Meagher page 197)..However in WC X 52..Oswald was not carrying any Hidell ID when questioned in NO..

See discussion of this in "Blind Man's Bluff In New Orleans" Chapter 17..

5 :Army Intell.file: HSCA Report page 224.

6: Hearings of Committee on Un American Acitivites Nov.19,1963, John Glenn.

Congressman Richard Preyer: Chairman of the Assassination Committee

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Secretary of Defence Melvin R Laird..under President Richard Nixon

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possible powell photo information on the corner was done by dave williams..thanks..

robert e.jones hsca.......http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/unpub_testimony/Jones_4-20-78/html/jones_0001a.htm

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james powell..

powell documents...b

The Guns of Dallas by 112th. 315th army.. Army Aid to Help Protect President Kennedy Was Refused

Trained U.S. Army Intelligence Units were told their assisstance was not needed in Dallas during the JFK visit. William McKinney, a former member of the crack 112th Military Intelligence Group at 4th Army Headquarters, Fort Sam Houston, Texas, has revealed that both Col. Maximillian Reich and his deputy, Lt. Col. Joel Cabaza, protested violently when they were told to "Stand Down" rather than to report with their units for duty in augmentation of the Secret Service in Dallas. McKinney said, "All the Secret Service had to do was nod and these units [which had been trained at the Army's top Intelligence school at Camp Holabird, Maryland] would have performed their normal function of Protection for the President in Dallas."

The 315th, the Texas unit which would have been involved if its support had not been turned down, had records in its files, according to McKinney, on Lee Harvey Oswald. The 315th had a Dallas office and its records were up to date.

McKinney added that, "Highly specialized classes were given at Camp Holabird on the subject of Protection. This included training designed to prepare this army unit to assist the Secret Service. If our support had not been refused, we would have been in Dallas."

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6/29/05

7/3/05

"You must wonder when it is all going to end.

And when we can come back home.

Well, it isn't going to end...

We have to stay at it,

We must not be fatigued...

...John Fitzgerald Kennedy

... November 1963....

Captain James W.Powell Army intelligence ..

There are conflicting stories in regard to this man... I am finding..???

Lillian Mooneyham, a clerk of the 95th District Court told the FBI that she watched the motorcade moving west, on Main St. from windows in the Dallas Criminal Courts Building ,then she ran to the west side of the building with two others ..She heard what she thought was a "fire-cracker " then there was a " slight pause and then two more shots were discharged, the second and the third shots sounding closer together.."..according to a FBI report of Jan.10/64..

She left Judge Henry King's courtroom..that it was about four and a half to five minutes following the shots fired by the assassin ,that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in the sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes ..This man appeared to Mrs.Mooneyham to be looking out the window ,however the man was not close up to the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs.Mooneyham could not make out his features."

Adding support to her account of the man standing in the sniper's nest window minutes after the shots...are photographs taken by military intelligence James Powell and news photographer Tom Dillard...Dillard who was riding in the motorcade, stated he took a photo of the TSBD seconds after the shots..Powell estimated his photo was made thirty seconds after the final shot..

A comparison by the HSCA of photos taken just prior and just after led photographic experts to come to the conclusion that "There is an apparant arranging of the boxes within two minutes after the last shot was fired at President Kennedy." Obviously,it could not have been Oswald as he was meeting Baker and Truly in the lunchroom while the boxes were being re-arranged.....

Mrs. Mooneyham was never called as a witness....(1).....Powell's photo along with Dillard's therefore are both very important when looking into this aspect of the shooting...( See Complexities post below in General for photographs )

...Seeing that James Powell seemingly zeroed in immediately on the 6th floor window of the TSBD and took his photo within 30 seconds...either another lucky coincidental happening that day, or a deliberate action in having his camera focused on the exact spot that it would be reported the shots had come from ,that had killed the President according to the WC...is not known.....or...could the AIC have had their man there, having received previous information, and warnings of the assassination...did they try to present some information that would prove that LHO could not possibly have fired the rifle, leading to the knowledge of a conspiracy ? if so, the WC ignored such and found LHO the lone assassin...but he did provide a stone in the works, as he did make the photo available...??

Mr.James Powell; has seemingly disappeared into history,( though he was found and contacted in 1996 by the ARRB ) there is very little on this man in the research....he simply was not followed it appears...and though I am still searching this is all I have found so far...These two conflicting stories...of what he did, where he went and was he in the TSBD as he states, and was there another in the Dal-Tex...and or was he taken to the DPD to be questioned..or does some of this lead to another un-named Army Intelligence officer...?..

A" curiously intriguing somewhat obscure photographer "

Powell took his photo less than half a minute after Dillard's from a position only some 100 feet from the TSBD at the southwest corner of Elm and Houston Sts. There also are very few references to his photo and name in the Commission records..

and what there is ,is fragmentary and contradictory..

James W.Powell was a Special Agent of Region 11, 112th INTC, ( the 112th had been told to stand down the day of the President's visit to Dallas : according to Colonel L.Fletcher Prouty ) the Army Intelligence Corps, had their offices at 912 Rio Grande Building in Dallas..Their official role of the Army Intelligence that day is unclear..as another representative of the protective service people that day was in the motorcade he being Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer , US Army Dallas Sub-Action Commander..Powell was completely silent in his brief post-assassination interviews..as to what was his official role that day..if any..and of just where he was at the time of the shooting ...(2)

In the FBI report taken by George T.Binney..Jan.3/64 is states, "that Powell was approximately one half block east of the intersection of Elm and Houston ,and the presidential motorcade had already turned west on Elm ,when he heard two shots and possibly a third fired at President Kennedy. He then ran to the southeast corner of Elm and Houston Street intersection and, seeing some people pointing to the TSBD he took the picture...."(3)

In a Secret Service Report from an interview on Jan.28/64...his statement is...

That "Mr.Powell was interviewed relative to his location at the time of the assassination and his actions subsequent to the assassination . Mr.Powell stated that he had been watching the parade from a postion near the corner of Houston and Elm Sts., the site of the assassination. Mr.Powell stated further that he heard shots and then joined a group of Sheriff's Deputies ,who were heading towards the rear of the Texas School Book Depository on the basis of the information that the assassin had shot from the railroad yards".(4)

Did he watch from the corner of Houston and Elm, and as soon as the President passed ,but was not out of site, then quickly walk easterly ,or was he watching from the corner itself..? There is a Photograph by Altgens #5..of the President's limo on Houston that does show a young man at the northeast corner of Houston and Elm Sts. wearing an Army uniform with what seems to be a private's single strip on the tunic..Only one of his hands can be seen and it does not hold an object like a camera...he may be with a woman beside him, it is not known if Powell was in uniform that day..military in sensitive situations often are not in uniform..

His camera was a Minolta 35mm camera loaded with Kodachrome X slide film with an ASA 64.The shutter was set at 1/25th of a second focused on infinity and set at F-11, and his picture was taken approximately 20 seconds after the last shot..(5).

There is no mention of any other photos he took, but wouldn't he ??..His sketchy interviews show that whether on purpose or not Powell's actions, location ,and his photo or photos taken is not clear..The Secret Service nor the FBI bothered to follow up on any information in relation to him. It can also been seen in his photograph, some windows on the west side, that do not show in the Dillard wide angled photo..Also showing are two additional windows on the west end of the 6th floor as being open along with the three seen in Dillard...An open window also ,on the 5th floor at the west end ,a young woman peering out on the 4th floor ..and Bonnie Williams on the 5th floor ,are still both in place as in Dillard's...

In checking the interviews it would appear that he then followed the Sheriffs Deputies and worked with them for 6 to 8 minutes..( Powell told this also to researcher Penn Jones )..He questioned a man near the entrance of the TSBD..who he thought was a beer company employee whom the police took into custody for questioning..He entered the front door of the TSBD saw WFAA-TV reporter Pierce Allman and another man with him, using the phone in the lobby, as he wanted to use the phone to call his office..and..According to other information ,he ordered the man to hang up the phone.Upon entering the building he did not meet anyone nor was he asked for identification...He remained long enough "to be trapped inside...after the Depository doors had been sealed".....Thus forcing him to show his ID and that knowledge becoming public....In the Secret Service Report it states " Mr.Powell has submitted a report of his activities immediately subsequent to the assassination of the President and states that his report will be available to this office upon request." The report may be the earlier FBI interview report, but it sounds like a report filed with the Army, and if so it is not available..(6..7..)

In testimony given to the WC by DPD detective V.J.Brian ,it makes mention that following a search in the TSBD , at about 2pm , DPD Lt.Revill , a supervisor in criminal intelligence ,brought Brian and other detectives back to the city hall .Also in the car was one man Revill knew and who Brian believed to be some type of military agent..."I, don't remember whether he was a CIC agent or a CID or OSI ,he was some type of Army Intelligence man." The agent was dropped off around Field Street . So it is unclear if this man was Powell....if so he was present when the search was done of the TSBD..(8)..He had his photo developed at the Cardinal Card & Camera Store in Dallas .."though he could see not anything otherwise signifigant in this picture." ..""other than the Negro male on the fifth floor ,he apparently turned it over to Lt.Col.E.E.Boyd who, in turn, made the transparency available to the FBI""...on 1/8/64..(9)...Powell's photo came to public light in a black and white form in 76..and was first published in Gary Shaw's "Cover Up" ..But in 77 FBI Director Clarence M.Kelly was informing researchers that the photographs "( yes he used the plural) ...were only available to the FBI temporarily. The photographs had been returned to the Army Intelligence Corps"..FOIA requests in the mid 80's to the FBI resulted in colour, and black and white copies being made available ,though print copies of the photograph are invariably cropped..(10).

During the HSCA in 77-78...the photographic panel, with reports prepared by Rochester Institute of Technology and the Stanford Research Inst.Inc. showed that the shadows on both Dillard and Powell were taken at the same approximate time...Though Dillard's two were made first..A major item revealed in the Dillard was a circular light fixture including a light bulb hanging from the ceiling of the 5th floor room ....there were no signs of any human faces or forms in the open 6th floor window or adjacent window..Though it was noted ( through a trigonometric calculation ) that concerning the placement of the boxes in the 6th floor window ......the additional boxes visible in the Powell photo were moved during the interval between the Dillard and the Powell photos...Thus if the report is accurate, following the last shot sounding ,someone moved some of the boxes into a different pattern within less than a minute and a half of the shots..."Subsequent examinations of these photos ,the box locations and sunlight patterns would indicate that there is no inconsistency".?.(11)

Note: on the Dillard Photos:The HSCA was requested by the SRI International to be allowed at a cost of $5,000.00 to enhance by means of state of the ark equipment to find possible hidden information within the negatives of the Dillard photos....of the TSBD...Dillard had custody of his original negatives, but he co-operated and turned over twelve of the negatives..four eventually being processed....SRI would not accept liability and made this clear...in early 78 the study resulted in the findings above.

Unfortunately ,the negatives, particularly frame 24, "........became detached from the agitation apparatus and the gelatine was abraded during the time it was freely agitated without support"....in otherwords they ruined it.....they blamed it on a malfunction of equipment ...they extended apologies and regrets to the Committee and Dillard....

Robert Groden who was the HSCA independent consultant was asked to comment ..on the damage...He found that negative # 8 also had been damaged by a coating not originally on the negative...but now evident...negative # 24 suffered also from this problem...( this is the negative that showed the 6th floor window ) also part of this negative appeared to have had it's emulsion rubbed off from the film base....To a lay person, the negative looks terrible .....the emulsion on the negative appears to have run down and melted into a pool of taffy like, a pool below.... The left side of the sniper's double window in badly affected, though the lower part of the snipers window escaped serious damage ...the whole negative looked like it was worn and crackled...and in otherwords the negative also had a tear (hole) in it......Dillard in 1979 received back his damaged goods , and copies of the SRI report, and a letter and the Groden comments...Blakely lamely wrote Dillard that the Committee was assured the process was safe and regretted the damage...." These two historically signifigant frames had been irreversibly harmed by experts."....(12)

There is an error in the information about Powell....In searching to find any information related to the statement that he was taken out of the Dal-Tex along with Braden, I managed to trace him to " Six Seconds In Dallas" where it appears the information is first mentioned...on page 312.(3&4).in a document form ..ComDoc 354..SS Report by SA Roger C.Warner from the NA..including in the report on LHO ....of information given by Det. Jack Brian DPD..to SAIC Forrest V.Sorrels, by Captain Will Fritz....(13).

""Harvey Oswald --- 12:35 pm When interviewed by Captain Fritz on 11/22/63, Oswald said "as he was leaving the TSBD buildng, two men (one with a crew cut) had intercepted him at the front door; identified themselves as Secret Service Agents and asked for the location of a telephone" (CD 354). Oswald was probably mistaken as to the identity of these men. Mr.Pierce Allman, who had brown crew cut hair, and Terrence Ford, of WFAA TV, ran into the TSBD a few minutes after the shooting. They entered the front door of the building, emerged into a hallway and there met a white male who they could not further identify. Allman asked this person for the location of a telephone. Oswald watched as Allman used the phone and Oswald then left the TSBD and walked east on Elm.""''

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In this report Brian "stated that he had interrogated Mr.James Powell ,Army Intelligence, who was trapped inside the Texas School Book Depository after the Depository doors had been sealed."

I have found in the book "High Treason" Livingstone: Groden:1980:89&98...page 160....what I believe could be an error ?.It states, "An Army officer, James Powell ,was trapped in the Dal Tex building after it was sealed off following the assassination. By coincidence, this is also where another suspect, Jim Braden was arrested ." he notes this information is found in J.Gary Shaw's " Cover-Up"..1976-92...page 194: Shaw states..."It is both interesting and ominous that an Army Intelligence Officer was found trapped inside the Texas School Book Depository after the building had been sealed off. He was Special Agent James Powell."(CD 354 (cited in Thompson's "Six Seconds In Dallas "1967 (3&4)...So if you have this book, you may want to correct this information...or add to it. ...I then followed this to "Six Seconds."..and from there, hopefully to the next book or books to continue on with any new found information about Powell...this led me to...two books that seem to have delved further into the Powell information........."Legacy of Doubt":Peter Noyes:1973 and

"They've Killed The President".Robert Sam Anson:1975.....Apparently in Noyes he goes into infomation pertaining to Braden...it will arrive by snail mail, one day....

Even though the following may repeat some of the known information and also some of what I have previously posted, the following is pertaining to James Powell , so for your input:

From Anson...

"Not long after the shell cases were found a high-powered rifle,mounted with a telescopic scope,was discovered near an opposite wall, wedged between some packing cases. The Book Depository was quickly sealed ,trapping three men who were not employees inside.Two were newsmen..(there were four :Dallas Morning News:Kent Biffle :WFAA TV reporter Tom Alyea:and WFAA Radio Pierce Allman and James Powell )(15)

The other was Captain James W.Powell,an army intelligence officer."

"Moreover, Oswald's apparently having been an agent does not necessarily mean he was a CIA man.Part of the common misunderstanding of the nature of intelligence derives from the assumption that all spies work for the CIA.The CIA ,in fact is only one member of a much larger intelligence community,and when compared to such giants as the National Security Administration ( whose chief stated function is the monitoring of Intelligence gained from ELINT,( Electronic Intelligence) COMINT,( Communications Intelligence) and "spy-in-the-sky" (satellite sources) ,the Defense Intelligence Agency ,the Office of Naval Intelligence ,Army Intelligence ,and Air Force Intelligence ,(the CIA) is a relatively weak sister at that.

Army Intelligence in particular has nearly as large a budget as the Agency, and more than three times as many agents. Long before the CIA ever dreamed up Operation CHAOS (see below),army intelligence was busy spying on thousands of Americans. The army paid particular attention to domestic dissidents like Lee Harvey Oswald. Moreover ,in June 1961, Kennedy ,in a memorandum to the Joint Chiefs of Staff ,set new rigid guidelines for the Agency's covert operations .Theoretically ,at least ,the Agency was supposed to clear and coordinate with the Defense Department it's paramilitary activities against Cuba, a requirement that brought the army into the picture (telephone interview with John Marks, Sept.26/75) .Finally, far better than the CIA,Army Intelligence was in a position to know the arrangements for the President's trip to Dallas ,as well as the security precautions the Secret Service was taking to ensure his safety. Chronically short-handed ,the Secret Service worked with army intelligence as a matter of routine. ............. .Secret Service Agent Winston Lawson ,who was responsible for the choice of the motorcade route had been a member of the army intelligence reserve,(WC 4 H 318). So was Captain W.P.Gannaway,the head of the Dallas police special service bureau ,which used Ruby as an informer. (WC .C.D 1426). So, was James W.Powell ,who was present on the sixth floor of the School Book Depository when the Mannlicher-Carcano was found,and was later "trapped inside" after the doors had been sealed.(WC.C.D 354)

The police pilot car which preceeded the motorcade contained the commander of the local army intelligence reserve and possibley one other agent.(Stevenson Exhibit 5053:WC 21 H 578).(14) ( the commander was Lt.Colonel George Whitmeyer..(15)

(On Main Street forty-five minutes before the assassination an Army Intelligence officer was in the company of FBI agent James Hosty..(16)

(Hosty was the FBI agent who had been to see Marina Oswald: his name and car plate number were in Oswald's notebook, and he destroyed a note written to him by Oswald. ( Hosty was also a bridge-playing companion of General Edwin Walker's aide ,Robert Surrey,( Surrey printed and distributed the "Wanted For Treason" pamphlets against JFK (17).).. An Army Intelligence agent turned up that afternoon this time riding with ,from the assassination site with DPD Lt. Jack Revill of the criminal intelligence division .(WC 5 H 57)..( Detective V.J.Brian ( WC 5 H 47 )

"we let him out a couple of blocks ,if I recall up about Field Street....Revill knew who he was ) ...

"Except for Brian, none of the other men who drove back with Powell mentioned him in their testimony..After they dropped off Powell, Revill and Brian,who pretty much comprised the Dallas Red Squad ,met with FBI Agent Hosty at Police Headquarters .

These were the men who were supposed to keep track of radicals and their activities in Dallas .It was their job to warn the Secret Service about "characters like Osawld"..

Powell was not the only Intelligence agent to appear on the scene..There were Treasury agents and at least one Army Major who helped search for the tramps ,Jack Crichton another Army intelligence agent, may also have been there..bm.A few hours later he would call upon one of the members of the Dallas White Russian Community

to act as interpreter for Marina Oswald.(WC 9 H 102).....(20)

..DPD:Lt Jack Revill wrote a memo re subject Lee Harvey Oswald ,605 Elsbeth Street..Oswald never lived at that address, but he had lived at 602.Though he had not lived on Elsbeth since March 63....If the police did not have a file on Oswald then where did Revill get the Elsbeth address? When asked by Allen Dulles when he appeared before the WC, he gave no answer regarding his source.Also, that afternoon a list of employees of the TSBD was made up and submitted by Revill, Oswald's name was on the top with the address at 605 Elsbeth.

Where did he get this address , most likely from the unidentified Army Intelligence officer who rode with him from Dealey Plaza. For the 112th Military Intell Group, which had a field office in Dallas, carried in it's files information on "Harvey Lee Oswald" residing at 605 Elsbeth St.in Dallas. (WC 5 H 57.)(18)

The night of the assassination a secret cable ( finally declassified in 1975) went out from the 4th Army Command in Texas to the US Strike Command at MacDill air force base in Florida.USSTRICOM ,which is known as an army-airforce operation set up in 1961 and designed to be a quick-reaction strike force.It's location in Florida

would have made it the logical vehicle for any attack on Cuba .And the cable that went from Texas to USSTRICOM the night of Nov.22/63 seemed to favor just such an eventuality..It read;(14)

"Don Stringfellow ,Intelligence Section, Dallas Police Department ,notified 112th Intelligence Group, this headquarters ,that information obtained from Oswald revealed that he had defected to Cuba in 1959 and is a card carrying member of the Communist Party."(19)

All of which was untrue. But at that moment ,with US forces on worldwide alert and the Secret Service fearful of a Communist conspiracy,( they said) few people knew it was untrue.If pressure was building for a post-assassination invasion of Cuba, the incendiary cable from Texas was an important element in furthering the plot ."(14)

Perhaps it was all just another of a thousand coincidences :The Army's cable :and it's ties with the exiles: it's spying on innocent citizens: also spying on dissidents: and also the Army's Military Intelligence ties that day on Nov.22/63...it's presence in Dealey Plaza and it's ties with the Secret Service, the FBI,and the Dallas Police..

All I can think of is the man who wasn't there.....!!.....All for now.....B..

DPD..Detective V.J.Brian testimony:WC

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/brian.htm

DPD..Lt.Jack Revill..testimony:WC: HSC

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/revill.htm

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/revill2.htm

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo2/jfk4/hscarevl.htm

History of Operation Chaos

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/lyon.html

Scroll down to Photos & Films:

Dennis Morrisette on his site has new James Powell Documents...

They were in touch with Powell in April 1996..ARRB..

about his photo (s) negatives (s)...see below...

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/5439/Documents.html

1: "Crossfire"..Jim Marrs: 1989, p: 53

2: "Pictures of the Pain"..Richard B.Trask,1994: pp:448-449-450.

3:& 4:" Six Seconds in Dallas p:312-313..Josiah Thompson

FBI interview of James W.Powell by Geroge T.Binney ,CD 354 1/3/64/

5: "FBI interview of Lt.Col.E.E.Boyd by S.A. Wallace R.Heitman 1/2/64.CD 206.interview of Powell..."

6: " Crossfire"...Jim Marrs: 1989:p: 309

7: Secret Service Inv.by S.A.Roger,C.Warner,CD 354 2/3/64..reproduced by Thompson p:313..and FBI interview of Powell cited.

8: WC: Hearings V 5 pages 48-49-57..V.J.Brian..

9: see 5...

10: "Cover Up"..J.Gary Shaw: 1976-1992:p.31

11: "Appendix to Hearings V6 ": p: 110-115, 133-135.

12: "Pictures of the Pain" Richard B Trask, 1994:p: 452 (note 38) p:469

13:"Six Seconds in Dallas" Josiah Thompson: 1967:p:312

14: "They've Killed the President" Robert Sam Anson:1975:pp:31-284-285

15:"JFK:Breaking the News" Hugh Aynesworth:2003:pp:28-202-203

16:"Cover Up"..J.Gary Shaw:1976-1992:p:194..( Stevenson Exhibit 5053:WC 21 H 578)

17:"Forgive My Grief 1"..Penn Jones Jr..and "Cover Up"..J.Gary Shaw p:167

18:""High Treason"..Livingstone:Groden 1980-89-98: p: 158-159-160 : "Cover Up "Shaw p:194: ""They've Killed The President" Robert Anson p: 175

19:" "Government Documents and the John F.Kennedy Assassination".unpublished at this time...1975: Peter Dale Scott.

20: " Coup D'etat In America"...Alan J.Weberman: Michael Canfield..revised edition 1992..p:67-68

Conspiracy theory still surrounds JFK

http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20101002/NEWS01/10020339/1002/Conspiracy-theory-still-surrounds-JFK

b

hi fellas, i found this cheque made out to l.h.o from the new orleans public service , i wondered if perhaps it was a rebate he never cashed but then he was so supposedly poor, he would have, or was it perhaps for some work he had done for them, i have never read of him being employed by them anywhere, and am just tossing this in the thread hoping, perhaps you can give me a reply as you are so knowledgeable in this area of lho in n.o........thanks much carry on, best b

ROSEMARY...

The History of the Secret Intelligence Service 1909–1949 by Keith Jeffery http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/oct/02/mi6-secret-service-jeffery-review

- Blackwater firm partners with State Dept., CIA insidershttp://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/10/blackwater_firm_partners_with.html

Book on spy agency MI6 highlights Canadian's exploits and Joe Kennedy's

http://www.theprovin...9500/story.html

As blatant as the assassination was, I find no reason for an assassin to be that exposed as to be in front of the fence and at the end of the wall and I'd have to think the likes of Craig Roberts would agree that a shooter worth anything would never put himself there... but I am only expressing an opinion... I am not a shooter of any kind.

I'm not a shooter, either, but it makes sense to me to put a guy dressed as a cop

in that location, have a very loud round fired from the TSBD to distract attention,

then claim that BDM was returning fire should anybody see him.

After all, the HSCA identified a "very distinct straight line feature" in the region

of BDM's hands...did the Mom also bring her broom with her and the baby??

On what basis do people impeach the testimony of Rosemary Willis and the HSCA analysis?

http://www.history-m...Vol12_0006a.htm

I've yet to see any sort of rebuttal to this.

hi cliff, i have not read of any impeaching her testimony on this f, i could have missed such though if, i believe the witnesses saw and said what they did and do not need others to put it into their words, cause they need to make it fit their theory..

i recall altgens mentions dpd in the area of the wall.......take care b...

LIFTON's book, "Best Evidence."

The following is from a 01NOV65 telephone conversation between LIFTON and

"Associated Press photographer/news photo editor/wire photo operator, JAMES

"Ike" WILLIAM ALTGENS,

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He was friendly on the phone and mentioned quite casually that just before the

motorcade came by, a number of people suddenly appeared behind the wall on the

knoll. (84) He added that he thought it was an odd place to watch the parade

from since the car would speed up right there as it entered the Stemmons

Freeway. This was new, exciting information, but I was worried that Altgens

might be confusing this recollection with his description of people on the

overpass, which was mentioned in his Warren Commission testimony. But he

assured me he was talking about the wall on the grassy knoll--to the right of

the stairs when one faced the knoll.

When I asked Altgens if there were any police among the "people" he saw, he

replied, "I seem to remember that there were. (85)

(84) Author's memo, 11/1/65 conversation with Altgens

(85) Ibid

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john dolva, i believe you are interested in photos of the wooden floor of the tsbd in nov.63....i came across these, fwtaw...found in the texas achives...

also notice the hanging light fixture in no.6 and the dr.pepper no.8..

take care b

Bernice:

This is great information.The fact that DPD had a special recording room also makes me believe it is more likely that Oswald's interrogation would have been recorded and that the evidence has been hidden or destroyed.

Doug Weldon

Fritz never "talked" publically, but according to the

late Mary Ferrell revealed to some close to him that

the interrogation room had a hidden microphone for

taping ALL suspects...but that he would never make

the LHO recordings public.

He also testified that he KEPT no notes of the LHO

questioning, which implies that he did TAKE notes.

The WC did not push him on this, knowing that

LHO probably revealed "national security" secrets.

Jack

thanks michael, jack, all we have of the fritz notes are here,

http://www.jfk-info.com/fritztit.htm

b

thanks for the info, i thought you would know about the settings..?? take care b

STARS AND STRIPES.Nam.... thanks fellas for the assassination political. conversation, that article certainly proved good to get one going... putz or not... b

Doug and Jerry:

Did Oswald have his rights read to him? When? Where?

IN VB's book ALexander says that Texas already had a statute similar to Miranda on the books. Did they?

Jim:

I don't know what Jerry's response might be but I believe it is clear that Oswald asked for an attorney but was not provided one as they(DPD) continued to interrogate him. I am not aware of a Texas statute but if there was one it was not being followed. Many people have been critical of the DPD not recording their conversations with Oswald. However, it remains a common police practice in many jurisdictions today NOT to record interrogations.

Best,

Doug Weldon

Even so, it's intriguing to know that a stenographer was present at the original interviews of Leon Czolgosz (McKinley's assassin) in 1901. That the DPD failed to use one in 1963, and relied instead on Fritz's notes scribbled sometime later, is an embarrassment beyond words. According to Manchester, the WC's staff--mostly big city prosecutors--considered the DPD the "keystone cops". I think this reflected their bias, and that many of the DPD's purported screw-ups, e.g. its failure to photograph the brown paper "gun case"in the building, were not so innocent.

Pat:

You know where I stand on the conspiracy issue. However, I can only reply again that it is NOT an uncommon police practice today to not record OR have a stenographer present during a police interrogation. If a confession is made it would be common to write down the essence of the confession and have the defendant review and sign it. Unless there is a state statute mandating the recording or transcription of a confession it is a very risky process to do so. The first test for the admissibility of a confession is voluntariness and to record or transcribe something can only be beneficial to a defense attorney to dissect it and tear it aprt. The other difficulty is that it is rare that a person can tell the same story twice in the exact same manner and if there are multiple defendants, etc. their stories are going to differ, at least slightly.This can usually be used by a sharp defense attorney for tthe benefit of their client. I have both prosecuted and defended serious crimes. I have been present during police interrogations that you or any citizen might find appalling. We do often see cameras on a defendant on television reality news shows as they are questioned or waiting to be questioned so yes, it does happen in many instances. However, this is often done during a polygraph examination so that the actions of the defendant can be observed when noone is there, i.e., is he/she trying to practice their answers, control their breathing, etc. Since polygraphs are not admissible in any state, most people do not realize that a polygraph is simply an interrogation tool. The person is Mirandized, questioned, attacked with inconsistencies, and any admissions can be used. It is very artful but to sit through the hours of watching a polygraph is one of the most laborious things I have ever done. As critical as I am of many of the procedures I am not critical that there was no recording or transcript. However, I have always been bothered that a transcription was, in fact done, and may have disappeared.

Only my opinion,

Doug Weldon

DOUG, FELLAS I AM ATTACHING A PHOTO COPY OF THE DPD OFFICES, IT WAS POSTED AND CREDIT TO TOMLIN, YOU WILL NOTE THERE WAS A RECORDING ROOM, WHICH I BELIEVE MEANS THEY MAY HAVE OR DID HAVE TAPE RECORDERS AVAILABLE AND THAT THERE IS WAS MORE THAN LIKELY TAPES OF HIS INTERROGATIONS, BUT BY NOW MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE BEEN DESTROYED OR BURIED WITHIN A VAULT SOMEWHERE NEVER TO BE HEARD, HEAVEN FORBID...THANKS FELLAS FOR THE LEGAL INFORMATION APPRECIATED...BEST B PLEASE EXCUSE CAPS, THANKS..SEE' Y' ON PHOTO COPY///.

Gary Mack says that John Simpkin should appologize to Dale Myers for offending him for posting his PRIVATE discussion on a public forum.

Hell, here's what he says:

Hi Bill,

John Simkin is leaving out important information, and so is Bernice. There were a group of researchers conducting a PRIVATE discussion and someone added Simkin's name to the list. He chose to publish on the Education Forum some of that PRIVATE discussion without asking permission, so I merely warned the others that he was doing so. Dale Myers had every right to be offended at the publication of a PRIVATE discussion. Simkin should apologize to ALL of us for making our PRIVATE discussion public. Gary Confidentiality Notice: This message may contain confidential information and is intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, forward, distribute, use or copy this email or its contents. If you are not the named addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return email that you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system.ng

MY RESPONSE:

Gary,

Dale Myers should appologize to John Simpkin for trying to keep him from publicly discussing his theories.

Bill Kelly

Dale Myers should appologize to everybody for writing shoddy work, having such radical and extremist theories and publishing such an intentionally deceptive book as With Malice.

If Dale Myers doesn't appologize to Simkin I will start a web site With Malice In Wonderland, aimed at correcting Myers falsehoods and start shadowing him around like Tink Thompson does with Professor Fetzer, correcting him everywhere he goes.

I just might do that any way, whether he appologises or not.

Bill Kelly

RIGHT ON BILL; TELL YOU WHAT, HOW ABOUT DALE MYERS AND GARY MACK APOLO GIZE TO ALL FOR THEIR TRYING TO MANIPULATE THE EVIDENCE IN THE DOCUMENTARY, AS IF THEY DID NOT KNOW BETTER..SHAME ISN'T IT, GARY SEEMS TO END UP IN THE MIDST OF THESE DISCORDS MANYS A TIME, PERHAPS IF HE TOOK A SECOND THOUGHT AND STOPPED INTERFERRING AND THINKING WHAT HE HAS TO SAY IS SO RUDDY IMPORTANT, HE MIGHT NOT,HE SNITCHED IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID SO NOW HE HAS EXPOSED ANOTHER PART OF HIS CHARACTER, I RECALL A STUDY DONE ON RICH'S FORUM SOME YEARS BACK, HE CONTACTED SOME LAWYERS WHO WERE MEMBERS AT THE TIME TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE WEB LAW WAS IN THE STATES COVERING EMAILS, I HAVE NOT GOT THE STUDY PERHAPS ANOTHER MAY ?? BUT I DO RECALL THE FINAL FINDING WAS, THAT ONCE YOU SEND THAT EMAIL TO WHOMEVER IT NO LONGER BELONGS TO YOU, NOR ANY INFORMATION WITHIN...IT IS WHY WE ALSO SEE TODAY HISTORICAL LETTERS THAT WERE WRITTEN MANY YEARS AGO, POSTED LEGALLY ON WEB SITES ....BUT HOLD ON THERE GARY, ONE OF YOUR EMAILS MAY MAKE IT INTO HISTORY YET, BUT IMO I STILL BELIEVE THAT NO ONE CAN MAKE OR REQUEST WITH PRESSURE OR NOT,ANYINE ELSE TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE, I AM ALSO SOMEWHAT SURPRISED THAT CONSPIRACIST RESEARCHERS WOULD ALLOW ANYONE SNITCHING BE THEY AN LNR OR NOT, TO OBSTRUCT THEIR CONTINUING EFFORTS, AND SERIOUS INPUT BY SUCH AS J.S , AND BOW TO THEIR WISHES I STILL THINK THIS SMELLS , BUT DO NOT HOLD YOUR NOSE YET, I IMAGINE IT WILL GET WORSE, AND AWAIT MORE EXCUSES GIVEN AS REASONS....I HAVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES ON FORUMS, CTRS ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMIES, WE AT TIMES ARE CANIBALS WE EAT OUR OWN, WE DO NOT NEED ANY LNRS TO DOWN US, OR RUIN RELATIONSHIPS, RE ARGUING, OR CHASE AWAY THROUGH ATTACKING THEM ON THE WEB, WE DO SO MUCH OF THAT OURSELVES WE ARE VERY GOOD AT IT, JUST ASK A FEW OF THE TOP REASEARCHERS WHY THEY DO NOT DO FORUMS, THEIR REASON IS NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE TARGETTED BY LNRS THEY ARE MORE SO PUT OFF BY THEIR SO CALLED COMPATRIOTS, TOO MANY SUFFER FROM THE AAM DESEASE ALL ABOUT ME, AND BE DAMNED WHO GETS IN THE WAY, PERHAPS JOHN WAS RUFFLING A FEW FEATHERS I HAVE NO IDEA, WHAT WAS IN ANY EMAIL, NO THANKS, SEEN ENOUGH OF THAT CRAP OF THE BACK AND FORTH IN THE PAST, IT GETS VERY RARELY ANYWHERE AND AAM IS THE REASON WHY......TAKE HEART JOHN, THERE ARE MANY HERE THAT HAVE GREATLY APPRECIATED WHAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED AND STILL DO,ASIDE FROM THE FORUM, AS WITH ANY GROUP YOU WOULD STAND PRETTY WELLON YOUR OWN ANY DOUBTERS JUST DO A SEARCHFOR JOHN'S POSTS, NOW GARY POO GET OFF THE POT, AND YES YOUR EMAIL WENT DIRECTLY TO DELETE AS ALWAYS......AND AS YOU HAVE BEEN INFORMED MANYS A TIME,IN THE PAST, MANY PEOPLE YOU THINK YOU KNOW DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO WASTE ON YOUR GAMES YOU SNITCHER, ADD THAT NOW OUR BIO AS WELL......HOW CAN ANYONE BELIEVE ANYTHING ANY LONGER OUT OF YOUR MOUTH OTHER THAN PRINTEDBRESEARCH INFO THAT CAN BE VERIFIED, IS BEYOND ME, GET LOST IMO....B BILL ALL PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS MY HANDS ARE CRAPPY TODAY.. THEY ARE NOT WORKING CORRECTLY SORRY...TAKE CARE ALL,AND GET DIGGING...THANKS B..

bill sorry to read you and john have lost a freind, colleague and copa supporter, i appreciated this "His slogan for Avenging Angels, Inc. was 'It's time for the better angels of our nature to start kicking ass!'" we really could do with more angels.... .and i will remember the slogan ...take care best b

The "Dead" Secret Service Agent Saga

and the Agent(s) on the Knoll

by Vince Palamara

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This article by DPQ Associate Editor Vince Palamara originally appeared in the October 1997 issue of JFK Deep Politics Quarterly. Used by permission of the author.

All rights reserved.

In the July, 1997 JFK Deep Politics Quarterly article "Jim Fox and the Dead Secret Service Agent Story," Mark Crouch raised some fascinating possibilities. In fact, I was so inspired by that article that I finally decided to do something I should have done a long time ago: namely, detail every scrap of data concerning this mystery, as well as the one concerning the "agent(s)" of unknown repute spotted in Dealey Plaza immediately after the assassination.

First things first, however -- here is every known reference to the dead agent I could find as reported in the media on November 22, 1963. Eddie Barker, KRLD-TV, a CBS affiliate, noted, "The word is that the President was killed, one of his agents is dead, and Governor Connally was wounded." ABC News in Washington reported, "A Secret Service agent apparently was shot by one of the assassin's bullets." ABC's Bill Lord report included, "Did confirm the death of the secret service agent... one of the Secret Service agents was killed...Secret Service agents usually walk right beside the car." ABC Washington also noted, "One of the Secret Service agents traveling with the President was killed today."

The Associated Press (AP) was quoted on WFAA (ABC):"A Secret Service agent and a Dallas policeman were shot and killed some distance from where the President was shot." At 12:45 p.m. CST, KRLD-TV, a CBS affiliate, reported that a Secret Service agent had been killed along with the President.

At 1:23 pm, CST, CBS's Walter Cronkite reported, "A Secret Service man was also killed in the fusillade of shots." Seth Kantor, a reporter for Scripps-Howard, would write in his notebook, which was published by the Warren Commission [20H 410] "They even have to die in secret." At 2:14, the AP again made note: "A Secret Service Agent and a Dallas policeman were shot and killed today. The Dallas Police radio, channel two, also carried the story: (2:40 p.m.) "One of the Secret Service men on the field--Elm and Houston, said that it came over his Teletype that one of the Secret Service men had been killed." The Dallas Times Herald , dateline November 22, 1963, added, "From the Secret Service office in Dallas--a spokesman could neither confirm or deny the report: 'All I've heard is the same reports you've heard [sic]'." At 3:40 p.m. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Robert A. Wallace reported, "No Secret Service man was injured in the attack on President Kennedy," a denial of sorts, but it does not indicate if one was killed, or if there was violence away from "the attack on President Kennedy."

Beyond this, several authors, this one included, have come upon information that, in one way or another, appears to corroborate the story to a certain extent. What follows is a listing of these findings. In High Treason 2 (p. 439), DNC advance man Marty Underwood said to Harry Livingstone-- "There were a couple of suicides in the thing, with the Secret Service and everything..." Livingstone: "Do you remember who committed suicide?" Underwood: "I don't remember. I think there were a couple...." [He is then cut off by Livingstone.]

Secondly, inthis author's book The Third Alternative (p. 36): "While all three major television networks reported that "A Secret Service agent and a Dallas policeman were shot and killed' on 11/22/63, only to be officially corrected later by Secret Service officials, this author learned from Crouch, [Mark Crouch,friend and confidante of PRS agent/photographer James K. "Jack" Fox] that Agent Fox stated that the story was true!! According to Crouch, Fox was working in theExecutive Office Building on 11/ 22/63 (where

the PRS office was), when he was asked by SAIC of PRS Robert Bouck to get ready a detail of four to six agents to assist in retrieving the body and casket of the unnamed Secret Service agent. Fox told Crouch, "We lost a man that day- our man ,' and qualified his remarks by stating that he was not referring to JFK! This was a deathbed confession of sorts, -- Fox died not long after telling Crouch this in the early 1980's [ed. note: Fox died in 1987]. (Interestingly, although having heard the news reports that stated that the President's limousine raced to Parkland Hospital after the shooting, Mrs. Bill Greer thought for several hours that her husband had perished that day! Since she knew that Greer was the driver of JFK's car, this appears to be a strange admission. See Death of a President, p. 354, 1988 edition; interview of Richard Greer, 10/7/91)";

Third, from Richard Trask's Pictures of the Pain, (p. 50): Mrs. Cecil Stoughton had similar concerns about her husband to those of Mrs. Greer cited above, no doubt due to these same reports.

These tidbits, seemingly corroborative data concerning this mysterious, unnamed "dead" agent, tantalize us with the sheer volume of their credibility. With this in mind, I decided to "get specific" and try to FIND this deceased Secret Service Agent. Initially, I thought I might have found him: ATSAIC Stewart G. "Stu" Stout , stationed at the Trade Mart on November 22, 1963, died--cause unknown--immediately after Dallas, according to Agents Sam Kinney and Floyd Boring (author's interviews, 1994). In fact, Boring initially doubted that Stout was even in Dallas ("Gee, I don't think so...then again, I guess I should have known he was there because he died shortly thereafter.") Ironically, S/A Stout rode in the hearse [JFK's] (presumably upright, and breathing) from Parkland Hospital to Love Field on November 22, 1963!! [stout had also been involved in protecting Truman at Blair House during the assassination attempt on November 1, 1950 along with Floyd Boring, as well as having been with Vice President Nixon in Caracas, Venezuela, in 1958.] However, three items of data appear to quash this initial identification of the "dead" agent: First, Stout's report of his activities, dated 11/29/63 (18H 785); secondly, Stout's report, dated April 29, 1964, concerning the infamous drinking incident (18H 680); finally, an actual film clip of Stout with LBJ in California in 1964 as depicted in the 1992 PBS video "LBJ." Reports of Stout's demise apparently were, at least initially, exaggerated.

So the use of the word "immediately" by Kinney and Boring appears to be a slight case of hyperbole on their part. So I then focused on the other two agents, Emory Roberts, and Henry Rybka, who always aroused my suspicions in regard to this matter.

Fellow ATSAIC Emory P. Roberts died of unknown causes, the very same time an unnamed agent took his life in the... "Sixties, in Washington, with his own weapon. There were signs he was beginning to buckle," as former agent Chick Rochner explained to fellow former agent Marty Venker ! ("Confessions of an Ex-Secret Service Agent," pp. 216-217) As for Agent Rybka, the only written confirmation of his appearance after November 22,1963, is his alleged report found on 25H 787. However, unlike every other report found in volumes 18 and 25, save Agent Greer's, it is undated. In addition, there is a strange lack of detail and content, and there is no approval stamp by SAIC Behn. Keeping in mind the three documents that place him in the follow-up car on November 22, when he actually was left behind at Love Field (see JFK/Deep Politics Quarterly , October, 1996), something appears to be amiss.

Unfortunately for this specific quest, Roberts and the "unnamed" agent died in the late 1960s, while Rybka's presence as late as November 27 is confirmed by S/A Roy Kellerman in his WC testimony (2H 86), ...so much for that. Still, there HAD to be something to these tales of the "dead" agent; I decided to look still further. After an exhaustive examination of EVERY agent even remotely associated with the Texas trip (using the Warren Report, the 26 volumes, the HSCA materials, newly released interviews, plus Secret Service shift reports as sources), I have come to the conclusion I feel I can state most firmly: the only agent who is a real viable candidate for possibly being the dead agent is Dennis R. Halterman, a White House Detail agent who, as the shift reports bear out, was in San Antonio with the President on November 21 but who, for all intents and purposes, "disappears" from the record after that date. In essence, there is no written record of if, when, how, or where he went after that stop on the Texas tour: to Houston? Dallas? Austin? Washington? Halterman's name was known to me before I obtained the shift reports last year, as he is listed as being a member of the WH Detail in an alphabetical listing provided by Fred Ciacelli of the traveling JFK Museum to me in late 1993. It was also from this list that I asked Sam Kinney if Halterman--along with several heretofore unknown agents of the WHD present on this list--were still alive back in March, 1994. Kinney told me Halterman was deceased, but did not say when or how he died, mainly because I did not ASK him at that time. I have since tried to ask the question to former S/A Kinney, but have not been able to contact him.

But that is it--no other reference is made to Halterman anywhere else, and he is the only agent who could possible be a candidate for the "dead" agent, based on my personal research.

Equally intense was my search for the "agent" of unknown repute who appears in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963. Was he real? Was he an illusion? Was it a case of mistaken identity? Was he a fake agent? Was he a real agent? These were the questions I had to answer, or try to, to the best of my ability. As we shall see shortly, I chose the last option as being the correct choice.

As a precondition, we shall discard the problematic "identifications" of Jean Hill, as she testified to being encountered by a Secret Service agent who was most likely Dallas Times Herald reporter Jim Featherstone; equally valueless was the statement of Lee Oswald (see 24H 479), as the "agent" he pointed to a phone booth in the TSBD after the shooting was most likely WFAA newsman Pierce Allman or the more commonly identified Robert MacNeil after all. We do not need to rely on these accounts, as there are other sources. The following people stated that they encountered an "agent" in Dealey Plaza, or they gave information that definitely tends to strengthen the accounts of others on this issue.

Law enforcement officers noted the presence of an agent in the plaza: Joe Marshall Smith, who even saw credentials (7H 535), D.V. Harkness (6H 312), Constable Seymour Weitzman (7H 107), and Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig (cited in Crossfire, 330). Spectators Malcolm Summers (quoted on "Nova," November, 1988), Gordon Arnold, (Dallas Morning News, August 27, 1978), and Ronald Fischer (6H 196), all saw or corroborated other "sightings."

What does the "official" record reveal about these alleged 'sightings'? Yeah, we know...or do we? Going back to the original "official" statement, or party line, was quite an

eye opening experience: "All the Secret Service agents assigned to the motorcade stayed with the motorcade all the way to the hospital. None remained at the scene of the shooting, and none entered the School Book Depository at or immediately after the time of the shooting." (Commission Document 3, p. 44--emphasis added)

So, in actual fact, this statement, drafted by Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon and General Counsel G. d'Andelot Belin, only accounts for the sixteen agents traveling in the motorcade--two in the lead car (Lawson and Sorrels), two in the limousine (Greer and

Kellerman), eight in the follow up (Kinney, Roberts, Hill, McIntyre, Ready, Landis, Bennett, Hickey), one in LBJ's car (Youngblood), and the three in the VP follow-up car (Johns, Taylor and Kivett)!! Discarding the notion that "Lem" Johns was the agent (he was left behind VERY briefly on the ROAD and hitched a ride in one of the camera cars as verified by the film record), and stipulating that the other WHD agents assigned to the Trade Mart, Love Field, Austin, and other places, based on the "official" record, really were there the whole time, what does that leave us with?

For one thing, there were, "officially"speaking, seven agents in the Dallas field office of the Secret Service: SAIC Sorrels, as noted, in the lead car; Robert Steuart and John Joe Howlett, at the Trade Mart; Roger C. Warner, and William H. Patterson, both stationed at Love Field. But, as you note, that is only five of the seven agents. And there's the rub--the Secret Service reports in Volume XVIII alone confirm what five of the seven of the Dallas agents were doing on November 22--what about the other two--Charles E. Kunkel and James F. "Mike" Howard?

There are NO reports from these two men in the volumes (quite a strange departure), and NO testimony was taken from them either (although with no testimony taken from seven of the eight SS agents in the follow up, that should not surprise us). Coincidentally, both of these agents would go on to guard the Oswald family after the assassination and subsequent death of LHO; in fact, good old Marguerite Oswald felt that these agents were involved in the actual conspiracy itself (1H 169-170)! Howard, who would go on to join the WHD onMarch 29, 1964, was interviewed in an AP story related in the "Fresno Bee" on 11/22/93, the 30th anniversary of JFK's murder. Despite the obvious need to focus on the assassination, there was no mention in that interview of where either Howard (or Kunkel..) were during the critical time of the shooting in he middle of Elm Street! Are there any candidates from the WHD who are "eligible" to have been the "real agent" In Dealey Plaza on November 22? Yes, the aforementioned Dennis R. Halterman, and for the very same reasons, another new and obscure name: Ronald M. Pontius. Pontius, in Houston on November 21, also "disappears" from the detailed, written record and, like Halterman, this omission stands out noticeably from the shift reports and other documents--if one applies Peter Dale Scott's "negative template" hypothesis: if something is not there that SHOULD be there, something's amiss. Interestingly, during my interview of Houston DNC advance man Marty Underwood, he mentioned that the one agent I should contact about these matters was none other than Pontius himself, a completely unknown name to be then (Oct., 1992), and still a pretty obscure name now. Finally, as readers of my book, The Third Alternative, know, former agent Abraham W. Bolden, Sr., expressed much suspicion about fellow former agent Harvey Henderson as being a possible candidate for the "agent" in Dealey Plaza. At that time, Henderson was "removed" from the WHD-- if you believe Bolden, because he was extremely bitter towards JFK, and this removal happened shortly before Dallas. I have been unable to confirm or deny the story conclusively, as Henderson passed away in early 1994 just as I was seeking to interview him.

One final clue to both the mystery of the "dead" agent and the "unknown agent" in Dealey Plaza on November 22 may come from the statements of former Dallas agent Robert A. Steuart, as revealed in Bill Sloan's 1993 work, JFK--Breaking the Silence (pp 1-5). Although the agent who spoke to Sloan was unnamed in the book, Sloan confirmed to me the agent's identity based on my firm conviction that this agent HAD to have been Steuart. Why? Because, as I told Sloan, the agent used the identical language with me during my two "attempted" interviews with him in 1992 and 1993; in any event, Sloan confirmed my suspicions. So, just what did Steuart say to Sloan (and me)? Sworn to absolute secrecy about the "Kennedy thing," Steuart went on to say, "I can't talk about it...There are so many things I could tell you, but I just can't... I can't tell you anything... I'd like to, but I can't.... It

was a very heavy deal, and they would know. Someone would know. It's...too dangerous, even now."

This, from a local agent, stationed at the Trade Mart on November 22, 1963.

Were the stories about the "dead" Secret Service agent true? Quite possibly, for there is one viable candidate. What about the "agent" in Dealey Plaza? He most likely was a GENUINE agent, for there are five potential candidates: two local agents, two Washington agents, and one bitter renegade agent, whereabouts unknown, on that fateful day in Dallas. One thing is sure: if the man on the knoll was the renegade, it was one hell of a conspiracy, and if an agent was killed, why the silence?

A special note and addendum from the author (November 28, 1997)

I have received a lot of acclaim for my article in the the October 1997 JFK/DPQ, which is very much appreciated. While I still stand behind all the documentation in the article (and feel especially strong about the agent-in-the-plaza info), one major correction and one addition should be noted. I just returned from the JFK/Lancer conference in Dallas to discover over 300 pages of Secret Service survey reports and many Secret Service agent letters in my mail!

One of the documents, RIF-154-10002-10424, eliminates Secret Service Agent Dennis R. Halterman as being a candidate for the "dead" agent (but not the agent in the plaza, along with the four other candidates). However, while at the conference, researcher John Armstrong gave me a Treasury Department document regarding a U.S. Customs Official's allegations that a "[fnu] Mr. Robertson" of the Secret Service disappeared on 11/22/63 (Robertson was stationed in the Dallas/Fort Worth area). I am currently checking up on this new lead.

Also, Mrs. Hazel Kinney wrote me, telling me that her husband Sam Kinney (the driver of the follow-up car on 11/22/63 and a member of the Secret Service from 1950 to 1967) passed away on 7/21/97 while they were traveling in Iowa. I am the only person to have gotten Sam on the record in detail (even more so than the 1996 HSCA release). I am in the process of developing a list of surviving Secret Service agents to bring to the Review Board; needless to say, this was a great loss. I am forever grateful to the extended time Sam gave me in 1992 through 1994.

Recently, I've received letters from agents Floyd Boring, Bill Livingood, G. d'Andelot Belin, and others; hopefully there's many more to come as the research continues...

Thank you.

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