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A YOUNG AND SUPER SKINNY JFK WITH JAMES FORRESTAL.

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Just thought I would share the part of this You Tube video that shows JFK in his more youthfully awkward,  skin and bones and wilder hair days. 

It's really a charmingly fun early JFK pic worth seeing imo.

And the speaker also adds an intriguing speculation comment regards his suspicion that JFK was in Naval Intelligence.

You don't have to watch the entire video.  Just start watching at the 9:00 minute mark and the next couple of minutes thereafter.

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Kennedy at Forrestal's grave, 1963 - this link

Repaying old favors, Kennedy brought James Forrestal's son Mike into the NSC circle, under Bundy.  Unfortunately, the younger Forrestal is accused by some of helping Lodge and Harriman do the famous weekend end-run around Kennedy's wishes for the Diem deposition in Vietnam.

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Forrestal was a mentor to JFK and told him about the Alien Presence as much as he could without violating classified material. I do think JFK was a member of Naval Intelligence.

The researcher who spoke in the above video about Forrestal's life mentioned how Forrestal was a troubled person his whole life and how his marriage was a strain on both him and his wife. The researcher in his talk mentioned how on one occasion Stuart Symington confronted Forrestal in a private conversation in a public arena and how visibly shaken and upset Forrestal was afterwards. Forrestal carried two immense burdens: early knowledge that the Alien Presence was interacting with Planet Earth and being blackmailed by those who had proof of what bothered him all his life. It was a different era and certain conduct was condemned if uncovered and the person destroyed.

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35 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Forrestal was a mentor to JFK and told him about the Alien Presence as much as he could without violating classified material. I do think JFK was a member of Naval Intelligence.

The researcher who spoke in the above video about Forrestal's life mentioned how Forrestal was a troubled person his whole life and how his marriage was a strain on both him and his wife. The researcher in his talk mentioned how on one occasion Stuart Symington confronted Forrestal in a private conversation in a public arena and how visibly shaken and upset Forrestal was afterwards. Forrestal carried two immense burdens: early knowledge that the Alien Presence was interacting with Planet Earth and being blackmailed by those who had proof of what bothered him all his life. It was a different era and certain conduct was condemned if uncovered and the person destroyed.

Doug, what do you think Forrestal's "second" immense burden was?

You mentioned his first immense burden being his knowledge of the alien ET presence.

Was it Forrestal's sexual orientation? Did he have a great affair while married?

I think knowing what this 2nd immense burden might have been is important in understanding more of the truth about Forrestal's end of life mental breakdown and perhaps even murder.

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On ‎1‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 7:37 PM, Joe Bauer said:

Doug, what do you think Forrestal's "second" immense burden was?

You mentioned his first immense burden being his knowledge of the alien ET presence.

Was it Forrestal's sexual orientation? Did he have a great affair while married?

I think knowing what this 2nd immense burden might have been is important in understanding more of the truth about Forrestal's end of life mental breakdown and perhaps even murder.

Retired NYPD Detective James Rothstein, who had access to intelligence files, told me that the brilliant and patriotic Forrestal was a pederast (the term employed in those days.) This was used by the Alpha Males in the top levels of government to destroy him. It was an era different from today. Since then there has been a successor who was also a fiercely patriotic U.S. Secretary of Defense who has the same sexual inclination. In his case he was appointed because having been compromised he could be controlled to do the bidding of the elite of the elite in government, especially as to the awarding of lucrative Defense Department contracts, primarily no-bid contracts. Today it is all about compromise and control of the victim afterwards (President Trump comes to mind.) The FBI arranged for Robert Merritt to have gay sex with over 100 prominent targets/victims at the Dupont Plaza Hotel in Washington in the 1970s in a room that was wired so that the events could be recorded.

This particular film is not precisely relevant but is an eye-opener nevertheless. Here is a perceptive comment by one viewer: "Please notice the BACKGROUND, which Kubrick also directs..... -Two old well dressed men are discussing a teddy bear. then -The Hartford's girl child walks toward the men, looks back one last time, to be sure she is doing the correct thing, and walks further toward the old men. -Mommy and Daddy do not even know where she has gone. -Daughter is simply one more female captured or groomed and used by the wealthy elite."

Kubrick died suddenly before the film was finished. Cruise and Kidman not long afterwards divorced. This whole subject is untouchable. Just think of the current Epstein scandal that involves the names of the elite of the elite. It has been alleged that this was a Mossad compromise operation. Bill  Clinton once said that he would gladly die for Israel. He has never said that he would gladly die for the United States.

 

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On 1/12/2019 at 9:24 AM, Douglas Caddy said:

Retired NYPD Detective James Rothstein, who had access to intelligence files, told me that the brilliant and patriotic Forrestal was a pederast (the term employed in those days.) This was used by the Alpha Males in the top levels of government to destroy him. It was an era different from today. Since then there has been a successor who was also a fiercely patriotic U.S. Secretary of Defense who has the same sexual inclination. In his case he was appointed because having been compromised he could be controlled to do the bidding of the elite of the elite in government, especially as to the awarding of lucrative Defense Department contracts, primarily no-bid contracts. Today it is all about compromise and control of the victim afterwards (President Trump comes to mind.) The FBI arranged for Robert Merritt to have gay sex with over 100 prominent targets/victims at the Dupont Plaza Hotel in Washington in the 1970s in a room that was wired so that the events could be recorded.

This particular firm is not precisely relevant but is an eye-opener nevertheless. Here is a perceptive comment by one viewer: "Please notice the BACKGROUND, which Kubrick also directs..... -Two old well dressed men are discussing a teddy bear. then -The Hartford's girl child walks toward the men, looks back one last time, to be sure she is doing the correct thing, and walks further toward the old men. -Mommy and Daddy do not even know where she has gone. -Daughter is simply one more female captured or groomed and used by the wealthy elite."

Kubrick died suddenly before the film was finished. Cruise and Kidman not long afterwards divorced. This whole subject is untouchable. Just think of the current Epstein scandal that involves the names of the elite of the elite. It has been alleged that this was a Mossad compromise operation. Bill  Clinton once said that he would gladly die for Israel. He has never said that he would gladly die for the United States.

 

Oh wow!

I just recently watched "Eyes Wide Shut" for the first time.

Yes, it was disturbing.  

Deep Freudian bad dream stuff.

The Epstein scandal does seem to possibly fit into the kind of scenario the film depicts.

So many high profile partakers of Epstein's social invites.

We live in a world often manipulated and controlled through temptation and compromise, especially among the highest echelons of elitist power, wealth and influence and the never ending obsession and agenda of maintaining and increasing such by it's most immoral and corrupted members.

For sure, it will always be a great struggle to find our human rights common good and moral way through it all.

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After reading this story in today's New York Times, one has to wonder if the Times has cast its lot with those who believe in UFOs and the Alien Presence. JFK was informed about the matter even before he became president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/arts/television/project-blue-book-history-true-story.html

 

 

 

 

 

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Can't access the article Doug unless you register with the Times.

I watched the first episode of "Project Blue Book."

It seemed quite hokey and the characters and their lines stereotypical stiff and unreal.

I am not sure regards the true agenda of creating this series. Perhaps it's simply a money making one as there is for sure a huge audience of the UFO / ET SUBJECT.

Will watch the show a couple of times more to see if it gets better.

Leslie Kean

Just a gut feeling that she is a planted disinformation person.  I may be wrong...who knows.

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This picture has a haunting quality to me. Just finished reading  The Assassination of James Forrestal by David Martin published this year. It's not the best edited work one will find, but it has all the essentials. His "suicide" reminded me of Epstein's--new night time watch, confusing stories about timeline and strange conclusions based on finding the body. He was found with a bathrobe belt around his neck as if he tried to hang himself from a nearby radiator but no robe was ever found; he was allegedly suicidal, but placed on the 16th floor with easy access to open windows. There was no autopsy. There was a ridiculous report of him copying out a portion of a Greek poem about Ajax, right before "jumping" yet the handwriting bears no resemblance to Forrestal's. Pictures of broken glass near his bed were suppressed; his priest was denied access to him; his brother found him lucid and ready to return home. He had been viciously attacked from both the "right" - Walter Winchell, and the "left" - Drew Pearson, for not supporting the creation of an Israeli State within the Arab lands and population. Pearson in particular made up stories of his "numerous" suicide attempts to help cushion the main stream version of his death. A report on the unlikelihood of suicide was suppressed for 50 years. All this happening at that bastion of post-mortem truth - Bethesda Naval Medical Center. He was the first Secretary of Defense when the services were combined and was replaced, by Truman's chief fundraiser Louis Johnson who managed to visit him at the hospital. A former executive at Dillion Reed and friend of Robert Lovett, he appeared to be a man of integrity and conviction who rubbed some of the people in power the wrong way. That he took a liking to JFK and brought him to the Potsdam Conference adds to the poignancy of it all.

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