Douglas Caddy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) Cleburnite Shaw closes book on mysterious JFK-era figure By Pete Kendall/reporter@trcle.com Jun 20, 2011 https://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/archives/cleburnite-shaw-closes-book-on-mysterious-jfk-era-figure/article_a798542b-0289-50fc-8470-76dfb6c6d8b9.html?fbclid=IwAR2jndwHVZwiNZYGjWfiaNO4yLxuNUrQXlHxF-WmkVEYm8eM2VGv80T8QgY [Note: it takes a minute or two for the article to be pulled up] Edited April 17, 2019 by Douglas Caddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) I did a lot of work on this with some help from Greg Parker. I am convinced that Ruby deliberately arranged the money transfer that morning so he could be at Western Union. The feds harassed Carlin and her hubby Bruce to go along with the whole charade so it would not look that way. I don't know what Gary means when he says that you could ask for a format WU and then fill it in and have it done the next day. The money transfer was time stamped. Edited April 18, 2019 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 So Karen Carlin traveled with Jack Ruby to see Santos Trafficante? Interesting, given her post assassination activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I'm happily surprised by what I stumbled across tonight. I've wanted to read Gary Shaw/Larry Harris book Cover-Up: The Governmental Conspiracy To Conceal The Facts About The Public Execution Of John Kennedy for several years. But it's $843.00 on amazon. I think an original run of 3000 copies may have been it. Wondered why no more if it's become that valuable. https://www.amazon.com/Cover-Up-Governmental-Conspiracy-Execution-1992-05-01/dp/B01JXTTQZ8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gary+shaw+cover+up&qid=1556330496&s=books&sr=1-1-spell The third of the three reviews provides a link to read it on line. http://whokilledjfk.net/coverup.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: I'm happily surprised by what I stumbled across tonight. I've wanted to read Gary Shaw/Larry Harris book Cover-Up: The Governmental Conspiracy To Conceal The Facts About The Public Execution Of John Kennedy for several years. But it's $843.00 on amazon. I think an original run of 3000 copies may have been it. Wondered why no more if it's become that valuable. https://www.amazon.com/Cover-Up-Governmental-Conspiracy-Execution-1992-05-01/dp/B01JXTTQZ8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gary+shaw+cover+up&qid=1556330496&s=books&sr=1-1-spell The third of the three reviews provides a link to read it on line. http://whokilledjfk.net/coverup.htm It was noted elsewhere this came out in 1976, when the Church committee was just getting started, before the HSCA. Looking for the above I came across this from 1992. Memoriam for Bud Fensterwald. Bill Kelly/John Judge article. http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/A Disk/Assassination Information Center/Item 05.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 2:41 PM, Douglas Caddy said: Cleburnite Shaw closes book on mysterious JFK-era figure By Pete Kendall/reporter@trcle.com Jun 20, 2011 https://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/archives/cleburnite-shaw-closes-book-on-mysterious-jfk-era-figure/article_a798542b-0289-50fc-8470-76dfb6c6d8b9.html?fbclid=IwAR2jndwHVZwiNZYGjWfiaNO4yLxuNUrQXlHxF-WmkVEYm8eM2VGv80T8QgY [Note: it takes a minute or two for the article to be pulled up] This brief interview of J. Gary Shaw is interesting. When the whole truth is out…. - WhoWhatWhy https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/20/when-the-whole-truth-is-out/ Nov 20, 2015 - One man who can cut through the confusion is Gary Shaw, a pioneering ... Was this the tipping point in our distrust of government and its institutions? ... His book Cover Up is one of the preeminent works on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: This brief interview of J. Gary Shaw is interesting. When the whole truth is out…. - WhoWhatWhy https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/20/when-the-whole-truth-is-out/ Nov 20, 2015 - One man who can cut through the confusion is Gary Shaw, a pioneering ... Was this the tipping point in our distrust of government and its institutions? ... His book Cover Up is one of the preeminent works on the subject. Great interview. Thanks for posting it Joe. Shaw does get to the heart of multiple matters, but most important, the most important matter, who could have covered it up all these years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 9:30 PM, Ron Bulman said: I'm happily surprised by what I stumbled across tonight. I've wanted to read Gary Shaw/Larry Harris book Cover-Up: The Governmental Conspiracy To Conceal The Facts About The Public Execution Of John Kennedy for several years. But it's $843.00 on amazon. I think an original run of 3000 copies may have been it. Wondered why no more if it's become that valuable. https://www.amazon.com/Cover-Up-Governmental-Conspiracy-Execution-1992-05-01/dp/B01JXTTQZ8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gary+shaw+cover+up&qid=1556330496&s=books&sr=1-1-spell The third of the three reviews provides a link to read it on line. http://whokilledjfk.net/coverup.htm The link is not the book per se. None of the pictures mentioned. It also seems to cut in and out at places randomly. E.G. Jackie's Warren COmission testimony, "at the point she was about to describe her husband's fatal head wound...…………….nothing. Skips to different subject. However there is interesting info in there. Keep in mind that Shaw had been to the clubs in Dallas as a young man and did personal interviews after the assassination. I never knew all of this. Jack Lawrence, the questionable car salesman, frequented the Carousel per the Babushka lady according to Shaw. He was a close friend of Ruby's roommate George Senator. He was a known ardent right wing speaker from LA. As I've read before and has been debated he was supposedly an "expert Airforce marxman". He left the borrowed car parked behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll. I'd read he left it just "downtown", stalled in traffic, and walked to work from it, muddy, sick enough to throw up. A suspicious co worker called the DPD, he was taken in, released, and left town the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) On 4/29/2019 at 10:02 PM, Ron Bulman said: The link is not the book per se. None of the pictures mentioned. It also seems to cut in and out at places randomly. E.G. Jackie's Warren COmission testimony, "at the point she was about to describe her husband's fatal head wound...…………….nothing. Skips to different subject. However there is interesting info in there. Keep in mind that Shaw had been to the clubs in Dallas as a young man and did personal interviews after the assassination. I never knew all of this. Jack Lawrence, the questionable car salesman, frequented the Carousel per the Babushka lady according to Shaw. He was a close friend of Ruby's roommate George Senator. He was a known ardent right wing speaker from LA. As I've read before and has been debated he was supposedly an "expert Airforce marxman". He left the borrowed car parked behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll. I'd read he left it just "downtown", stalled in traffic, and walked to work from it, muddy, sick enough to throw up. A suspicious co worker called the DPD, he was taken in, released, and left town the next day. I also never made the connection regarding Downtown Lincoln Mercury where Lawrence worked, briefly. That's the dealership where Oswald, who didn't drive, took a test drive with salesman Albert Bogard, exceeding the speed limit on Stemmons freeway. Told Bogard he'd be coming into money in 2-3 weeks, the credit manager that if he couldn't get a loan he might go back to Russia. Bogard passed a polygraph (fwiw) and co workers confirmed his story. If I remember right I think I've read Lawrence provided false references on his job application regarding experience as a car salesman in (?) New Orleans, and, that he only worked at the dealership a short time before the assassination. This has been discussed on some forum before in detail. I remember information about the owners of the dealership being discussed. Here we go. Edited May 1, 2019 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 "Bogard was found dead in his car in a cemetery in Hallsville Louisiana on February 14 1966. A hose had been connected to the exhaust and the other end in the car with windows up; it was ruled a suicide." I guess he killed himself over a broken heart on valentines day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I guess I was about the only one interested in this thread. I'm bumping it for the link to Gary Shaw's book Cover Up which I never did read. In just the first 2-3 pages he's talking about a new investigation in Dallas that should not include DA Henry Wade or Assistant DA Bill Alexander, "(a close friend of Jack Ruby)". Wade I understand. He and LBJ corresponded since at least March 2, 1950. "I really enjoyed seeing both of you while I was in Washington, and appreciate very much the invitation to your cocktail party, which was very successful." Copies of 14 of these letters going through 11/64 between them in the back of a book I don't agree with, Betrayal in Dallas by Mark North. LBJ addressed Wade as Hank. Wade fawned over LBJ. While I think I remember Alexander being antagonistic, I don't remember the part about him being a close friend of Ruby. Worth digging into/reading further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 '"The murder of Robert Kennedy made possible Richard Nixon's narrow victory in bloody 1968." An astute observation for 1976? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 CREEP... quasi-investigation... Attorney General Kliendeinist assured us that the entire matter had been investigated with the thoroughness of the Warren Commission (!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 10:17 PM, Ron Bulman said: CREEP... quasi-investigation... Attorney General Kliendeinist assured us that the entire matter had been investigated with the thoroughness of the Warren Commission (!). "thoroughness of the Warren Commission." Shouldn't that be listed in the dictionary as an example of "Oxymoron"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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