Bill Brown

Perhaps make a legitimate case all in one post; beginning to end.

500 E. Jefferson was the location of the Johnny Reynolds Motor Company. L.J. Lewis called the police from there after hearing the shots. When you read the transcripts, you see that there was confusion over the correct address. One address given was 501 E. Tenth (Mary Wright's address, she called the police immediately after hearing the shots). I'm interested in your claim, regarding law enforcement personnel gathering around the area of the library ahead of time. Care to elaborate further? Make a case for it.

It's interesting and telling that you feel McBride has to be defended for his comment.

Beginning at the 25:15 mark... "And then even Tippit's gun was taken away from the scene. There was a witness who was kind of out of control, a former Marine named Ted Callaway, who took Tippit's gun which he [Tippit] fell on top of when he [Tippit] got shot.... So Tippit's gun could have been swapped out for another gun too and that's important because if he shot Kennedy from the grassy knoll maybe they didn't want the actual gun to be anywhere near the evidence at that point." Is McBride really saying that anyone, Tippit or otherwise, would be using a service revolver in an attempt to shoot the President from roughly one hundred feet away? @Joseph McBride https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pivIGJXjxg&t=1472s

Nothing else in the car is thrusted a tad forward except for the President's head. A bullet striking the head from the right front will NOT toss the body hard back and to the left. You're acting like Kennedy was struck with a baseball bat.

Fact: A bullet fired from the right front and striking the head will NOT cause the body to be pushed violently back and to the left.

500 E. Jefferson was the location of the Johnny Reynolds Motor Company. L.J. Lewis called the police from there after hearing the shots. When you read the transcripts, you see that there was confusion over the correct address. One address given was 501 E. Tenth (Mary Wright's address, she called the police immediately after hearing the shots).

I believe Oswald removed the spent shell casings from his revolver as he was making his way to the corner of Tenth and Patton in order to have a fully loaded revolver in case another cop was around the corner. Remember, Dallas Sheriff's Deputy Unit #109 reported that he was very nearby once news of the Tippit shooting went out over the police airwaves. If 109 was nearby AFTERWARDS, he could have been there shortly before. Point being, I believe Oswald saw 109, reversed direction and soon afterwards encountered Tippit. These two "encounters" (if you will) would definitely give Oswald concern to proceed further without a loaded weapon. If you're Oswald, once you've seen two patrol cars in a matter of two minutes, you'll want to be sure your weapon is fully loaded before turning the next corner.

So then you do believe that Tippit's body was lying in the street for as much as nine minutes before anyone called the police.

You're not making any sense. No one has said that Bowley handed off the mic to Callaway. This is a figment of your overactive imagination and it is not required (at all) in the scenario I've laid out in the OP. It appears that you don't wish to discuss the case in an honest manner. The police tapes tell you that Markham was NOT approaching the corner at 1:06.

You're trying to have the best of both worlds. Either Bowley's call was at 1:16 and Callaway two and a half minutes later at 1:19... Or... Bowley's call was at 1:17 and Callaway's was two and a half minutes later at 1:19/1:20. Neither scenario has Bowley handing the mic to Callaway. Let me explain it to you this way (so you don't go on insisting that you're correct while being grossly incorrect like you have done before)... If Bowley's call was at 1:17:41, then Callaway's was not at 1:18. Your mistake is in believing that the two reports (Bowley's and then Callaway's) were one minute apart. They weren't.

"I'm interested in the evidence. The Dallas Police produced call sheets for every phone call received. They were cards that were stamped by a timeclock. ( 13 H 91-92 ) Why did the Commission fail to produce the Dallas Police call sheets for the phone calls made by Mary Wright and someone at Ted Callaway's car lot ? In all the confusion, both their addresses were broadcast as locations for the shooting, ( 501 E Tenth and 501 East Jefferson ) proof that those calls were received." If you're really interested in the evidence, then why not learn it? The "someone" you're referring to who called the police was L.J. Lewis and he certainly was NOT at Callaway's car lot. Lewis was across the street from Callaway's lot at the Johnny Reynolds Motor Company (as was Warren Reynolds, Pat Patterson and Harold Russell). By the way, since I have your attention, if you're interested in the evidence as you claim, then please support your (mistaken) statement that William Scoggins didn't see the killer's face because he (Scoggins) was lying in the street. Or... you could simply admit that you said something stupid.

"Gil I understand your point but there is another way to look at this. The fact is there was no “1:15” bus yet that is what Helen Markham said. “1:15” could be the time Helen had in mind she should be there, in time for the 1:22 actual bus time. Since the time she gave is not any actual bus time, either she was mistaken (which could agree with either 1:12 or 1:22 actual bus times) or she had in mind a time she needed to be there (which would be for the 1:22, not the 1:12)." Bingo! We have a winner.

Ted Callaway testified that after hearing the five gun shots, he ran out to the sidewalk on Patton. This was a little over a half block south of the shooting scene. Callaway saw a man (who he later identified as Oswald) cutting across Patton as he (Oswald) made his way south on Patton (towards Callaway's position). Callaway hollered out to the man as the man continued south on Patton past Callaway's position. Callaway testified that the man was running and holding a gun. Callaway saw the man head west on Jefferson (the same direction as the theater). Once the man turned west onto Jefferson, Callaway ran a "good hard run" up to the corner of Tenth and Patton. Callaway, noticing the stopped patrol car, went to the car and saw the officer (Tippit) lying dead in the street. Callaway said the first thing he did was to grab the police car radio and report the shooting. He said he didn't know if anyone had reported it yet, so he decided to report it himself. To recap, Callaway hears the shots. Runs to the sidewalk. Sees the gunman run south on Patton the entire block from Tenth to Jefferson. Runs the two-thirds of a block up to the shooting scene. Goes over to the police car and the first thing he does is grab the radio and report the shooting to the police dispatcher. How much time do you believe passed from the time Callaway heard the shots to the time he reported the shooting on the police radio? Let's say two minutes pass from the time Oswald shoots Tippit to the time Oswald turns the corner from Patton onto Jefferson. This is a little over one block and Oswald was running. Let's say it takes Callaway one minute when he made the "good hard run" the two-thirds of a block from his location to the patrol car. If these two time estimates are anywhere close to being correct, then Callaway is at the patrol car roughly three minutes after the shots rang out. Let's add another full minute for error. So we have Callaway at the patrol car using the police radio about four minutes after the shots rang out. Here's the thing... Callaway's report to the dispatcher while using the patrol car radio took place at 1:19/1:20. Do the math and work it backwards. At 1:19/1:20, Callaway makes the call. If four minutes have passed (and that's being generous, in my opinion) since the shots rang out, then the shots rang out around 1:15.

"Consider this: Helen Markham was on her way to catch her "1:15 bus" that was scheduled to arrive at the corner of East Jefferson and Patton Ave. at 1:12 pm." Nonsense. There was a 1:12 bus and there was also a 1:22 bus. You have no idea which bus she was going to be boarding. "If this murder occurred at 1:17 or 1:18 pm as Mr. Brown suggests, then Helen Markham never saw it. Because she had already caught her bus and was on her way to work." I have never claimed that the Tippit murder occurred as late as 1:17 or 1:18.