Dawn Meredith

If he did, he did so from heaven. Welch gave that speech on March 9, 1974. Although Welch quotes himself from 1958, the speech was given at the JBS Council Dinner in 1974, as the video clearly states. Phelps got his description word for word from the person that posted it on YouTube. I'm not sure that Phelps even watched the video. ========== Yawn... Robert W. Welch died on 6th January, 1965 ========== Best find your spectacles, Jim. Welch died on the 6th of January, 1985. I've put this in a larger font in case you can't find your specs. Michael Hogan is one of the most detail driven members of the board. And very respected. Yawning at his corrections to your blatant errors is not very smart... I agree, Mike and a few others are the primary reason I still keep up with this forum. Someone's death is so easily verified on so many sites that I wonder about Mr. Phelps. Dawn

Did this ever occur? I wonder if rather would be willing to stand up for the truth about the assassination of JFK now that he is no longer doing CBS' bidding. Dawn

Thanks, Monk. Shelby had originally posted that it would be "open" till the end of the month. If it ever has to shut down, someone needs to find a home for Rich's archives. Jack Thanks Jim. There are many serious JFK assassnation researchers at this forum who will be glad to know the location of Rich's archives. Thanks from everyone at DPF. Dawn

Did The Mob change the route, stop the autopsy from happening in Tx., tell the SS to stand down, get them drunk on 11/21, set LHO up as patsy??? Did the Mob hire the CIA to conspire to kill Castro? On and on, this is the new version getting ready to roll out for the 50th anniversary. Blame Blakey and Co. And all the disinfo writers since. Dawn

Darn, I was hoping someone would do a REAL investigative show on the assassination. Not a coverup. We've had enough of those. Dawn

That is where I first saw it too. I still have the interview, which I read for the first time in 1974. Dawn

Thank you Greg. Wonderful news. Godspeed Jack. Yes great news. Dawn

I totally agree, Jack. Name one other former pol who is talking about this stuff? Jesse is getting airtime all over and shining the light on the truth that MSM works overtime to deny. He could be retired and surfing in Mexico full time. Jesse is a true patriot. Dawn

I have signed and will forward it. Dawn

Joan: These segments are available via utube, all three hours. Dawn

Thanks for posting this Bill. More proof that there was Harvey and Lee, two separate people. No one who reads Armstrong can doubt this. Dawn Hi Dawn, I dug that out of the archive for John, and he's preparing an interesting series of talks for Hawaii conference. I don't think it is that simple however, and there's more to it than just "Harvey" and "Lee." BK __________________________________ I wish I could go to this conference but by the time I found out when it was my court calander had settings,and we had already made vacation plans. Jim D kept saying spring vacation, wherever that was. Hurt was an interesting fellow. His book was really quite good, except for the foolish Easterling chapter and the disinfo in chapter 11. He and I had lengthly correspondance over this. I do not think there is anything "simple" about Harvery and Lee. But I hope you expound more on this subject. And post this piece at DPF. Are you going to Hawaii? Dawn

Thanks for posting this Bill. More proof that there was Harvey and Lee, two separate people. No one who reads Armstrong can doubt this. Dawn

I plan on writing a book on the theory that Bobby was not a natural-born Kennedy but was adopted by the Kennedys as a child. Growing up watching his promiscuous father and brothers, Bobby often asks himself, "What kind of family have I gotten into?" After becoming attorney general, Bobby goes to a shrink because of a recurring problem that he can't deal with: "Marilyn Monroe keeps throwing herself at me." (The shrink says, "That's a problem?") Later Bobby comes back to the shrink, saying "Now Jackie is doing it too." I hope to find living witnesses to confirm my theory of this longstanding secret. If I can't find any, I'll just interview some dead people. Ron: Thank you, you just made my day. B. too. Dawn

Terrific review Bill. I also posted on your blog. So won't repeat myself here. I'd like to hear more abuout the agents who do beieve there was a conspiracy. Thanks, Dawn

Thank you BK and Jim D, the voices of reason here. Morrow is not able to write a post that does not get into sex. Great advice from both of you. I am sooo sick of the Kennedys being trashed. Atlantic Monthly? That bastion of truth on these matters. Shame on the media. They sould do some real investigative work. But why bother, it's far easier to blame the victims. Dawn

His middle name "Lee" jumped out at me and according to Jack White his last name sounds like the word "loner" ...On his utube there is mind control stuff....All this is starting to take on a deeper politcal meaning than just the tea party hate stuff... I agree Evan, the whole gun thing has always given me the creeps. Gun violence in this country has been out of control as long as I can remember. I am a former Canadian but I am sure I would feel the same about the gun craze no matter where I was from. Dawn

He has been a friend of mine for years. I will call him and let hm know. He may still be on tour. He is also not online. I can email you his snail mail address if you like. Dawn I have forwarded the email to you for James Douglass. I will pass it on to him. (I have also sent you an email with his phone number and address). I had a lovely talk with him yesterday and he asked me to thank everyone for getting his book and all the wonderful comments that have been made. He is one of THE nicest persons in the research community. Devoid of ego and lives his faith. His book is my favorite on this subject. I plan to order many copies of it this week and send them to friends and family. Dawn

He has been a friend of mine for years. I will call him and let hm know. He may still be on tour. He is also not online. I can email you his snail mail address if you like. Dawn

Indeed. Now if HBO would just do the same. I wonder why the change of heart. Perhaps they decided that accuracy is more important than ratings. Dawn

Gary I think you understand it quite incorrectly. I never once said Robert was an "informed JFK researcher". Quite the opposite. He is newbie. He is passionate.... Dawn Sincerest apologies Dawn and I mean that. I was going from memory and without checking, then or now, thought a phrase including 'informed' was used. Which is ironic and embarassing considering the context of my post which I can amend if you would like and apologise again. More generally, of course, the greater point being the difficulty in running and moderating a forum with concerted campaigns being waged from armchairs. What is going on at Spartacus? is not helped by campaigns baiting and ill informing members privately and publicly, the legal threats by ambulance chasers acting in the same way governments use the threat of National Security to conceal the truth. Threats to contact administrators workplaces (and when this is a school you can imagine how serious this can be viewed and the subsequent actions better understood if not agreed with) and research into peoples background because you don't like them and wish to demonise, victimise and harass. It is all unseemly, no one wins. To be sure, in my opinion, Myra and Peter Presland's accounts of what happened seem well evidenced and to be true - they both have different chronological start points which change the context of their truths, though not the ultimate actions and neither is classy or covered in glory, but that is understandable especially in the critically important area of the deep political war eh!? No-one here or anywhere had to ask what's going on at DPF? Everyone knew and those who didn't were quickly brought up to speed. It is admirable how well the constituency of the DPF was controlled during that period and I mean that as a compliment. Jim DiEugenio went over there knowing (If he didn't know he should do now) people like the founders of the DPF would want to take his side in any abuse of the EF. And man did they ever. Now there are too many threads on this messy issue. Which has nothing to do with Kennedy's death. John Simkin may be missing in action for personal reasons on occasion (God forbid! he has a life too). Whilst every single person who uses email has things, if made public, would embarrass them; but I doubt anyone can produce a private mail from John with the levels of vitriol, hatred, lack of integrity and dripping in treachery the type of which have been published elsewhere from other forum leaders. Whilst I doubt John ever wore gloves to have to take them off - I know who I would want beside me in the trenches. No problem Gary. No-one can be expected to remember the amount of info all the mods here and at DPF have to keep stored. FWIW Robert is actually a friend of mine and I do hope he continues to study this case in ernest. That and all deep political issues. He knows I take issue with his need to be sexual. He's a thick skinned person. I just wish he'd read JIm DIEugenio's wonderful article re JFK's alleged sexlife. If I appear to be "on here" or on DPF at length is is becasue everytime I open either place the phone rings. I'm in the office working and just take a moment here and there to look at the forums and facebook. I have said since day one at this forum: It is my desire that people who care about the murders of the 60's and other dark political events would be well-served to focus on all that we do agree on. All the infighting in the critical community has driven me to tears many times in the now almost 48 years I have been studying this stuff. Healthy debate is fine, but mudslinging serves only our common enemies: The conspirators. Dawn

well, at least they haven't shut a thread down as you've been known to do when it strikes your fancy..... and frankly, Mr. Morrow and his incessant LBJ opines are muchado about nothing... this board seems to be the only place he's gets positive attention... As I understand it Mr Morrow was championed into the JFK community as a passionate and informed JFK researcher by one of the co-founders of the DPF. I suppose not calling people xxxxtards, telling them to xxxx off, calling them idiots and saps, etc. must obviously mean they get positive attention here. The moderators and administrators on this board don't pick and choose which members are deserving of our civility - that attriubute, like good manners, is free. As to your other misinformed notion that the DPF don't shut down threads or make them disappear, I suggest you do a little more fact checking. Your distaste for this forum, for whatever reason, is apparent in your and one or two other members postings of late. I would be interested to know if you have any constructive views which would help improve the running of this forum. Simply saying get rid of Burton, Colby and everyone you disagree with isn't really sensible - lest we turn into a forum where we post views and heartily agree with one another until you're told not to do so??? Gary I think you understand it quite incorrectly. I never once said Robert was an "informed JFK researcher". Quite the opposite. He is newbie. He is passionate and buys a lot of books on the subject but it has become increasingly clear that he is not interested in anything but the sex lives of people, espicially JFK and LBJ. That is very sad. On the JFK case he has a very limited understanding. Indeed he is a one note wonder: LBJ did it, and he is entitled to his opinion even when he is shown evidence to the contrary. This is not to say that I believe LJB was not deeply involved, just not any "mastermind". He has been asked to cease the sex talk at DPF, both on the forum and privately, by me. If he presists there will be consequences. We are not a porn site. Many members have already complained both privately and on the forum. Dawn

As did C.S. Lewis, which was also overlooked in the press. Dawn

Hi Bernice, I got your email and sent the 2600 Euros as requested. I hope everything worked out OK. No need to hurry with the repayment, as I am expecting a BIG SCORE from a deal I am working on with a gentleman from Nigeria! That is funny Ray!!! Dawn