Denis Morissette
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Sorry Kathleen. I often confuse both men.
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Interesting thread.
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There is a colour photo of George Bush at the Kiwanis Club in Tyler on November 22, 1963.
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Thanks for reading my posts and and thanks to those who have posted interesting posts. I'll see you on the Lancer Forum.
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Thanks for this message, Don. It's our turn to question motives of people like John S., Andy and others.
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Thanks guys. I think we have enough documentation to make up our minds. Reading about extermination of human beings is not my favorite thing, but I'll do it for the sake of knowing for sure what happened.
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When I have time to read the links you provided, I will comment.
No, I'm not a Nazi. I have never been and never will. And stop labeling Don and I as racists. I understand your motivation, though.
I am not denying the Holocaust. I am just wondering if it is possible to exterminate 4 million of people in less than three years. If I am shown it is possible, I will admit it right away and shut up. Both Andy and John need to have a training on how to treat forum members.
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Let's start with a statement of fact.
Over six million innocent people were murdered by the Nazi Party before Berlin was captured in 1945.
Jews, leftists, intellectuals, gay men, Gypsies, Poles and the developmentally disabled were herded to forced labor camps and worked to death or murdered.
As I say, this is an indisputable fact and the key to understanding the nationalist race ideology of the Party, which aggressively initiated the second world war.
Shanet, you claimed in your post that it is a, "indisputable fact" that 6 million people were murdered by the Nazi Party. Yet, Don reports this:
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It was also reported, and in fact had been reported before, that the commemorative plaque at Auschwitz, remembering those who died there, had revised the old figure of 4 million-which had been on the plaque for decades-and now stated the new "official" figure of 1.1-1.5 million.
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An "undisputable fact"? Anything to say about that? You have been very silencious in this thread, Shanet. What do you think? How many people were killed in Auswitch? You think it is possible to murder 4 millions of people in a little more than two years in Auswitch?
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Andy,
I have made this point pretty clear in a few posts. Recently, the major media, including CNN, reported that the death toll at Auschwitz, from all causes, had been lowered from the previous estimate of 4 million to between 1.1-1.5 million.
How could such a mistake happen? A honest mistake or a lie? If a lie, then we should ask the question, "W-H-Y?". And John S. who who claims to be so knowledgeable in history. Why did he not mention to us the 1.5 million number? Once again, the question is "W-H-Y?".
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I received emails from three members who said that they also question the Holocaust story. They say they are afraid to show their skepticism because they may be called names like "racist" by John S. and others. You have to look at your way of thinking, John.
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The film was known long before. The HSCA even studied it, even though Cooper may not have given the full version to them. I have two documents about it on my website:
http://www.geocities.com/denismorissette/P...0104-10435.html
http://www.geocities.com/denismorissette/P...0087-10413.html
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YHowever, I am not willing to read books by historians who question the existence of the Holocaust. To me, someone who does that, given the evidence we have, must be doing this for some racist reason.
You're wrong. There is another reason: People who don't swallow everything they read.
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If only there were writers alive today like H.L. Mencken and George Orwell; one can only imagine what they'd do with this subject.
Neither of course if alive today would be so crass as to question the historical fact of the premeditated murder of millions of people by the Nazis.
The Holocaust is extremely well documented.
What of course we should be questioning are the motives of those who seek to "deny" it.
Andy, instead of attacking people -namely Don and I- provide us with evidence. Enough of your blah-blah-blah.
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No debate has ever been allowed on this subject,
Who the heck cares about debating the subject Don? If you are onto something about how the holocaust never existed. Document it. Write it down and provide the evidence of how this horrific example of mass deception has occured.
Raymond, as the Warren Commission members noticed it, it is hard to prove a negative.
Raymond, can you provide us with the number of trains that arrived in Auswitch a day between Spring 1942 and November 1944? How many people contained each train?
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You seem to have a fair and independent mind. Have you ever considered reading one of the books by historical revisionists?
I read about six history books a week. Virtually all these are linked to what I am doing on my website at the time. Currently, this means American foreign and domestic policy (1945-1968). I am of course interested in reading historians who question the way the past is normally presented. However, I am not willing to read books by historians who question the existence of the Holocaust. To me, someone who does that, given the evidence we have, must be doing this for some racist reason.
John,
I hope you don't really think that everyone who questions the validity of the holocaust is doing it for racist reasons.
Don, that's another tactic that those people use: Label everyone who question the Holocaust of racism. This way, you will scare away people who might research the subject. "If you open that book -books questionning the Holocaust- then you're a racist". That's not the kind of attitude you would expect from someone who runs an education forum.
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Salvador Astucia has been removed from this Forum. Not because of his postings, although the moderators had to edit out his racist comments. He has been removed because he has used his website to make libellous attacks on Forum members. He is also urging people to complain to the UK Department of Education in order to get the Forum taken down (he is under the mistaken impression that this Forum is funded by the UK government). A tactic previously employed by the other supporter of free speech, Bob Vernon.
He got very angry a few weeks ago when Gibson revealed the true identity of Salvador Astucia. His research was obviously correct. As he has published pictures of several members of the Forum on his website, maybe we should publish his real name and photograph on this Forum. What do people think?
I think he deserves to have his name and photo published after learning what he is trying to do to you. That's a sweet revenge for you, I guess.
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I think the man in black who passes by the pool of something is Buddy Walthers. I would be surprised he did not mention to the WC the blood if it had been blood. But maybe it's not even Walthers.
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Mike, I am just trying to figure out if it is possible to have a Holocaust in the Auswitch camp alone. It looks like you don't want me to do that. Why?
I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Who even suggested that the Holocaust only happened there? There were, as you know, many, many camps... Or did none of them exist? Just a figment of the collective imagination? Or a creation of the a shadowy "International Jewish Conspiracy"? Is that the same Jewish conspiracy which controls Canada, by any chance?
Mike, it is said that 4 million of people were killed in Auswitch ONLY. 4 million IS a holocaust, so l did mean that the Holocaust happened only at Auswitch. Pamela provided a quote of 8,000 people gassed a day. If you consider that they did not do any gassing between 10M and and 5AM, we come up with a number of maybe 10,000? You think it is possible?
I would be interested in getting more data like the number of trains that arrived daily in Auswitch, the number of people by train, the number of German employees at the camp, the time to force people in the gas chamber, the time to gas them, the time to get them out of that chamber, the time to dig the holes to put the bodies in, etc. And where do you take the space to burry 10,000 a day!
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This gets creepier and creepier... Does it really make any difference whether 6,000,000 or 5,500,000 were killed? Do we really need to delve into the number of minutes it takes to remove a pile of ashes from a crematorium, or the number of hours worked by Nazi murderers? Perhaps we need to take into account the weather conditions because it would have taken longer to dig mass graves if the ground was frozen, and the absentee rate of Nazi camp guards would have been higher it if were raining...
I hate to join in the general atmosphere of paranoia, but it does seem to me that the Deniers tactics seem to involve a dual strategy of belittling the issue by urging us to examine minute details about which exact information will probably have been lost (or destroyed by the International Jewish Conspiracy) in the intervening 60 years and which in any case are only marginally relevant. At the same time, one regularly runs into completely untrue statements proclaimed as fact, like the recent claim that anyone outside to the good ole USA who denied the Holocaust would immediately be incarcerated...
I'm still worried about the effect hosting the sort of comments we've been getting in this "discussion" will have on the Forum as a whole...
Mike, I am just trying to figure out if it is possible to have a Holocaust in the Auswitch camp alone. It looks like you don't want me to do that. Why?
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The floor is open…..
Fair enough. It would seem that if we can list the camps that had facilities for extermination, then determine how many could have been killed in a day, we would have a basis for analysis.
There may be another point -- namely, that those who died in the camps because of illness, malnourishment, overwork etc, are also vicims of the 'final solution'.
Auschwitz-Birkenau
Treblinka
Bergen-Belsen
Sobibor
Belzec
Madjanek
Do you consider this quote accurate?
That comes down to 80+ per hour, per chamber, or app. 3M/year.
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The largest extermination camp was Auschwitz-Birkenau, which by spring 1943 had four gas chambers (using Zyklon B gas) in operation. At the height of the deportations, up to 8,000 Jews were gassed each day at Auschwitz-Birkenau in Poland. Over a million Jews and tens of thousands of Roma, Poles, and Soviet prisoners of war were gassed there by November 1944.
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http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=...duleId=10005145
Pamela
Thanks for those numbers. I don't think the Germans were killing people around the clock. That would make the number of people killed an hour much higher. How many people were there in average at the Auswitch camp, and how many Germans were killing people? Consider the time it takes to remove the bodies out of the gas chambers and the time to dig holes to put the bodies.
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Denis, what do you mean by "questioning the holocaust"? What is there to be questioned? What are the questions?
Referring to your previous posting: Does it really matter how many people were murdered every day in Auschwitz?
The number of people killed each day is one of the most basic questions you can ask. If you come, say to a number of 2000 people each day. Is it possible to kill that many people? I don't know. If it's not, then who is behing that lie? If I tell you than I can run 200 miles a day, you have to options: To idiotly believe it, or to wonder if it is possible. Your choice.
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I will read the link provided by Bernice before labeling Ian and her as extremists. This way I won't have to apologize to them!
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I look forward to reading why Ian agrees on sending a man to jail this guy.
Was Dubya in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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No, there is no substance to that claim.