Frank Agbat

I really don't know what it is. In the later frames of that sequence, another object enters the field of view and is obviously someone's arm/shoulder. The textures between the two objects look similar to me (cloth), but I can't be certain that this is really the case. <edit -- hit Post too soon> It seems to be motionless during the frames where it appears. We first see it in frame 19, and it is off by frame 83 as Nix pans left. It re-appears as Nix pans back to the right to pick up LBJ's car.

Here are better copies of the frame in question. Later on, the "mystery object" reappears with a friend: I see nothing in these frames (the pairs are from a first and second generation copy from the NFV video) that indicates anything other than something (someone) in Nix's line of sight. The textures look like cloth, at least on initial glance.

Those MM frames are from the restored version that was taken from a 16mm "pre-splice" "pre-damage" copy. It was restored by a British company, but the version shown by the Discovery channel was incorrectly telecined. I fixed this problem a little over a year ago and posted the repaired frames. I think the frames that Duncan referenced are probably copies of these. Most of the You Tube variants are copies from Groden's video, which contains the damaged/spliced frames.

I like the idea of a repository -- verifiable images using a known, documented hi-res scanning technique and stored in a lossless format. I would like to see the same for the films, but not in MOV format. I'd recommend using the avi container and a lossless codec like HuffyUV. I know there are numerous issues (copyrights, etc), but if it is never started it will most certainly never be completed. Without such a repository, there are simply too many opportunities for well meaning (but misguided) research efforts to drift onto the rocks of poor image quality, compression artifacts, mpeg blocking, loss, aspect ratio issues, and the like. With a few (VERY few) exceptions, most of the commonly available digital format images and films are simply not useful for anything except macroscopic analysis.

While I still contend the "mallet" is most likely a false attachment, it could possibly be a thermos. Oh -- and I must confess that I thought it looked like Milteer, too...

The mallet/mug-o-brew/coffee cup... Two words... False Attachment.

One thing that must be taken into account when considering Z313 is that it is one of the (many) z-frames that suffers from motion blurring. Note the elongation of the bright-spot on JBC's forehead. Also note the elongation of the bright reflection spot on the seat (near the crosshatch that Miles added). This motion blurring adds some degree of uncertainty when attempting to ascertain and fix certain positions. The crosshatches and lines seem to be "left aligned" from one frame to the next. But consider, for a moment, how the premise could change if the crosshatches and lines were placed at even the *midpoint* of the motion blur.

Sit back and relax.... We'll be looking at "two-elevator monte" next .... As Greg pointed out, I'd said "all that Jack said he did dovetails exactly with what a suspected assassin - or assassin's assistant - might be expected to do." I suspect him more as an "inside man" than a "mastermind," a facilitator and look-out, and as a shooter only for the sake of having a rifle fire - well-aimed or otherwise - and thus to make him absolutely complicit and possibly feed his ego. More on all of that later.... Duke, An extremely interesting article and developing hypothesis. I eagerly wait additional installments. There is a lot of contentious behavior on the forum these days. It is sad that the other arguments (which are, in no way, advancing the case) have to some degree overshadowed this research. Work like this is precisely what this forum is all about. Bravo!

Well said, Stephen! Disagreement is a necessary part in finding the truth in any endeavor. It is from the examination of many points of view that accepted facts are challenged and ultimately proven, either true or false. Without challenge, nothing changes -- this can be demonstrated from history time and time again. However, the vitriol on this forum, especially for the past 6 months or so, is neither conducive to research nor to education. John and Andy have been patient and generous hosts, and I fully support their administration of this forum as they see fit.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z314.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z315.jpg What say you Frank? Thomas, You've dragged me out of a self-imposed mini-retirement... At one point, I was looking for the Moorman Polaroid alignment. Note, of course, that the lack of surrounding frames taken at known intervals makes it more difficult to pinpoint a "true" point of synchronization. In looking back at some of my work, I uncovered a work-in-progress picture that seemed to indicate that Moorman was taken somewhere between MS (Muchmore Sequence) frames 46 and 47... (Sequence frame 1 is where she restarted her camera and captured the assassination). I lean toward it being very close to MS-46. John Dolva and I did not reach consensus on the alignment of Muchmore with either of the other two films. However, I remain convinced that the best sync point between Muchmore and Zapruder is at Z291 (which corresponds to Muchmore Sequence 20)... Assuming I'm not completely out of it with Moorman = MS-46 this leads to: Moorman (10.039) = slightly before Z317 (10.055) = Slightly before NS 27 (Nix Sequence 27) (10.059) (Times given are in "Z-Time" where 0.00 is Z133). Guess I'm kinda un-retired, huh?

Let me know if I can lend a hand. Oh -- the pun opportunities are endless --- If too many projects fall into my lap, I'll certainly call on you to lend a hand... (For the record, John, my volunteering is limited in the same way as is Ron's.) And Charlie -- well done! The spirit is alive and well. (okay, it is alive -- not so sure about well).

It was worse for me. I taught (or did not teach) dozens of girls like Myra. The main aim was to be the centre of attention. Being told off was what they wanted. OOoooooo John, you knooooow what I want. I want to be disciplined by a stern British schoolmaster 'cause I talk dirty. Tell me I'm a naughty naughty girl... Spank me John. I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that the volunteer spirit of this forum has not stepped forward. John is a VERY busy man and simply cannot be expected to handle everything. I certainly do not mean to construe that he is in any way unable (or even unwilling) to competently perform all duties that befall a forum leader. However, I am aware that from time to time, there may be aspects of this duty that need to be dispensed to willing volunteers... I was so inspired by Ron's volunteer spirit, that should such a time arise where the above request cannot be diligently handled directly by John, I would be willing to provide the assistance necessary. Accent and all.

Even if we were able to detect that of which you speak, the bullet would have to be within the field of view of the photograph in order to do so (or perhaps be just outside the fov). There is no guarantee that this would be the case. For example, a while back on Lancer, I showed that if Z313 is the precise moment of impact (and we now know that it probably isn't), the bullet would not be within the FOV in Z312 due to the distance traveled and the velocities involved. However, other films (for example) have a wider fov per frame and may warrant further study.

... or could he be reacting to a sharp blow to the back that knocked the wind out of him? (i.e. a bullet that fired short and didn't penetrate very far)

Not to derail the thread here, but if it was local, why the obvious sham investigation (WC) and various aspects that seem to point to a cover-up at the Federal level?

I find Tom Wilson's work to be very interesting, although I do not have sufficient technical detail to comment from any perspective other than as an interested observer. I read Jack's message above, and I believe I followed the idea of it. From a programming perspective, it doesn't sound terribly complicated. Several other notions came to mind, though. 1) We would need to understand his method for converting analog to digital. In other words, the shades of gray that are seen by the program are somewhat dependent on the method used to generate them. 2) Critical to the entire process is the database, which we do not have... 3) The application and system he was using on TMWKK is rather dated, and systems capable of distinguishing far more than 256 shades of gray are widely available. Resolutions are better, too. It would be interesting to study greater depths of gray scale and their impact on a method such as this. 4) The algorithm sounds a little like that which is used to colorize black and white movies. I'd love to learn more about what he was working on from a technical perspective.

...I think it is reasonably certain that the events occurred in Dallas, Texas...

Charlie, From the point of view of physics, your statements above about forces is absolutely, 100%, A-one, CORRECT. Hollywood has gotten various pictures in our minds about people being blown through windows, etc, with various hand held weapons. This simply isn't accurate. The shooter would ALSO get propelled with the same force in the opposite direction. Momentum must be conserved in this system. Large weapons, of course, which are more massive themselves (as are their mountings) can produce such large forces. The M-C carbine hardly qualifies for this. But... We are not talking about moving the entire body as Hollywood does. We're really only talking about moving a portion of the body - the head.

Hi Mark, I'm not 100% convinced that his head moves forward slightly. Z313 is actually a motion-blurred frame, so it is possible that the eye is being deceived by the blur. On this point, I'm far from certain. I'm not completely ready to "concede" forward movement -- not yet. Your point is good, however, and is probably what lead the genesis of the "jet effect". Ejecta appears to go forward, head backwards; Sir Isaac Newton's equal but opposite reaction; head moves backwards. On this, I'm not convinced, either!

Regarding the 'head snap'... It really comes down to a decision point. We are either: A) Not seeing what really happened or Seeing what really happened. If A is true, then we are chasing a white rabbit down a hole conjecturing about why the motion is as it is. There are dozen of Z-Alteration threads where this line of inquiry can continue. On the other hand, if B is true then we've got a separate issue. To understand motion, one must understand ALL of the forces acting on an object. If motion remains unexplained, it is probably because we don't understand all of the forces involved. Even in the world of classical mechanics, it can be difficult to fully predict and explain various internal forces that exist in collisions. For me, headshot conjecture is incomplete without understanding the forces exerted by the back-brace. It seems that we know all sorts of infinitesimal details in many areas, yet know very little about this rather macroscopic object that surely had to come in to play.

This is most interesting... Notice the chalk area on the jacket of the stand-ins for JFK and JBC. Now compare to the location of Specter's pointer... vis: Interesting...

The document is certainly a forgery -- and not even a very good one at that. However, John, I don't know that I agree with your statement about "does not have English as a first language." Misuse of the apostrophe has become rampant, especially in the USA, in recent years. I've seen such errors in places one would not traditionally expect such (magazine advertisements, billboards, even in newspapers). Of course, one could take the Henry Higgins approach to the language and merely say, "in America, we haven't spoken it in years."

I think it is long past due for America to not only end the embargo, but to normalize relations with Cuba. The oft-ballyhooed claim of "Cuba's record on human rights" by those who favor the boycott may hold some truth, but compared to some of the regimes with which the American government has crawled into bed, Cuba is far from the most egregious offender. There are also those that say that there is little to be gained for America to normalize relations and end the embargo. I respectfully disagree with this. A free and open trade policy with Cuba would provide American business another source of its beloved "cheap labor" with far fewer costs associated with long overseas transport (as is the case with China and other far-east providers). In the end, both economies would benefit. And, perhaps most important of all, Cuban cigars would again be available in the 'states... And Pat, I wouldn't count on any tax increases anywhere except in the middle class...

I have, on several occasions, opined that the vitriol that seems to be the inevitable result of virtually every photographic thread (and many, many others) contributes to the inability to "solve" the case. I stand by these comments. When the majority of the threads on which I can provide meaningful participation inevitably end in a shouting match, it makes one less than eager to participate. It becomes tiresome sorting through the myriad of replies -- most of which could qualify as cut-and-paste from a dozen other threads -- attempting to find anything either germane or new. This has, on several occasions, caused me to ponder taking my leave from this forum. I can't help but wonder how many other people have quietly left (or never joined at all) for this reason alone. And, while we are all speaking our minds, I find the anti-American sentiment that occasionally rears its head on this forum to be an unfair generalization. While it may be true that the majority of complaints on this forum are about American participants, it is a breach in logic to extrapolate this behavior to all (or even the majority of) Americans. On the question of moderation and rules, I generally view this as the domain of those who operate the forum. I will support whatever rule set or guidelines they wish to implement. On the question of moderation, this too is a good idea. I would recommend, however, the selection of several moderators perhaps spanning several time zones. Prerequisite to this selection, though, is a published set of rules and guidelines so that there are no questions as to the expected forum policy and moderator actions. I would also recommend mandating that images must be hosted off-site and linked. This may reduce some of the bandwidth that the forum uses (and the associated costs). John -- I offer my best wishes to you and your wife.