James DiEugenio

From my understanding, Nasaw saw everything. BTW, for many years that hack/plagiarist/fabricator Steve Ambrose tried to say that somehow there was this great effort from both NARA and the JFK Library to conceal documents. When in fact it was really the Nixon Library that was doing this; in other words Ambrose's guy, who he wrote a three part biography about. With the coming of the ARRB, there is almost no modern president who has as much openness about his administration than Kennedy. And the thing is, the more we find out about Kennedy, the better he looks. The more we find out about Nixon, the worse he gets. Which is the opposite of what Ambrose said. I know this since I did that four part review of the worthless Burns/Novick documentary about Vietnam. Nixon, quite literally, fought any declassification of documents from his papers with a fleet of lawyers in court. He did this until his death in 1994. To my knowledge, no other president ever did this to the extent he did. And this was really bad for Ambrose since his three volume set was all published before RMN died. Same with Oliver Stone since his film came out in 1995, just one year after Nixon passed on. Once he died, there was a concerted movement to declassify Nixon's papers. Unfortunately, Ambrose's trilogy has already been published and most of the work on Oliver Stone's film Nixon had been done. Because with the declassification of these documents, Nixon looks much worse than he was depicted in both of those works. Let me give credit to Professor Jeff Kimball of Ohio University for this. It is one thing for an archives to declassify documents. It is another for someone to be willing to sit in a cubicle and read the papers and listen to the tapes for hours on end. Kimball did that. What Nixon and Kissinger did in Indochina, from the beginning, was simply a disgrace. By the beginning I mean the first October Surprise back in 1968. That move literally stopped any hope for a settlement for five more years. And let us not forget, Nixon dropped more bomb tonnage on Indochina than Johnson did. And he extended the war into Cambodia and Laos. The former caused the fall of Sihanouk and one of the worst genocides of the modern world. The idea that both Nixon and Kissinger were these sophisticated and visionary foreign policy leaders has been demolished by this declassification process. They were nothing but dressed up Cold War fruitcakes. (For an example of Kimball's fine work exposing this click here https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/40336)

Nice one Steve. Pattern.

I have little doubt that the order came from Hoover. But I could not trace it to him. Which is not surprising. About your other point concerning the CIA. One of the most fascinating documents the ARRB declassified was a memo from Helms to Hoover in very early March. If you stripped away its inter office etiquette it said: keep your blasted nose out of Mexico City. We are supposed to be doing that investigation. The truth was that the CIA did not do any inquiry about Mexico City, at least after the first couple of weeks. The new documents reveal that the CIA was tearing their hair out trying to find proof Oswald was there. They couldn't do it. They turned it over to Secretary of Interior Echeveria and his aide de camp Ochoa, as David Josephs found out. Even the Warren Commission was puzzled as to why the FBI started its inquiry so late. As most people know, Echeveria would not even let the Commission lawyers talk to Duran. As far as I know, the only CIA guy they talked to was Scott. Scott played them a tape he said was of Oswald. Slawson later said this was so, many, many years later. He then backed off of it. Three questions about this matter: 1. If it was Oswald on the Scott tape, then what tape did the FBI send up to Dallas within 24 hours, a tape that was clearly not Oswald? 2. If it was Oswald, then why did Angleton sweep down on Mexico City right after Scott's death and steal the tape from his safe? A tape of Oswald would help the CIA against charges that they faked LHO being there. 3. Lopez and Hardway went through the transcripts of all the alleged Oswald calls that the CIA transcribed. There is a table in the Mexico City report on this. They concluded that none of them were LHO. IMO, this is why Helms did not want Hoover investigating Mexico City. What the CIA did there in cahoots with Echeveria and Ochoa essentially forced Hoover into a box. If he investigates what happened down there, he unravels a cover up, perhaps a conspiracy. If he accepts what the CIA gave the WC, he goes along with the cover up. No brainer. He chose the latter. As he admitted in the marginalia of that memo I showed in my presentation as uncovered by Newman.

Thanks ST. I am actually getting a lot of that. Ron: The Walter Telex is in Garrison's book (220-21)

Rob: I should reply to your query about doing something like a slide show on JFK's foreign policy I have done that. As you can see below: https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/introduction-to-jfk-s-foreign-policy-a-motive-for-murder

That is correct William. When Garrison was arrested on those phony charges, he told the Justice Dept agents who handcuffed him, "I thought I was going to be shot." Garrison later concluded that this was the idea, to discredit him. And like I said in my presentation, to have Connick incinerate his files. Or the ones he could. Thank God, Garrison took some with him. The ones he gave to his pal Steve Bordelon for safekeeping mysteriously disappeared.

BTW, I added some things during the presentation. Angleton was very upset because Garrison came off so well in the Playboy interview. It was the first time really that he had a chance to discuss his ideas at length without being obstructed or interrupted (compare to Carson). So Angleton made Gordon file a lawsuit against Playboy and Garrison. David Krupp was the attorney for Playboy. Krupp kept on asking Gordon about his relationship with Allen Dulles. Gordon kept bobbing and weaving and would not give him a straight answer. So Krupp says, well, I guess we have to write a letter to Mr. Dulles, and he mentions the address he has for him. Gordon interjects and says, oh no, that's his old address, and he then gave him his new one. 😁 Dulles and Angleton, no the CIA was not worried about Garrison were they?

In the version I saw at the theater, it did not have an intermission. GWTW was a piece of middle brow schmaltz that Hollywood tried to sell as some kind of work of art, which it was not. Lawrence of Arabia is a really fine film in every way: the writing, direction, editing, photography. And what can one say about that cast that has not been said already? I really admire the ending of that film. It is beautifully done. The kind of directing that Scorsese will never be able to match if he lives to be a hundred. I wouldn't even call The Irishman a decent film. Its a bloated 160 million dollar mediocrity. A product of that economic pac man Netflix. Which is the only way it could have been financed. Because with Netflix, it does not matter if each and every film makes money on its own. The selling point they have is a wide variety of choices and genres. In fact, Hulu, Amazon and Netflix combined make more films per year than the studios. Who could have predicted that ten years ago?

Thanks Rob. That is what another attendee said to me. He liked the conversational tone. There were several things I said that were not included in the talk. Like Novel knowing the current address of Dulles' office and correcting the lawyer for Playboy on that.

Shackleford is a historian? Really? They met Marcello at the 500 club? How, why? They asked Debra to film this and she came away not buying the whole thing. Platzman wanted her to publish a book at the time. Conway refused. Platzman sent me that manuscript back then also. I think he wanted me to excerpt it in Probe. I had the same reaction as Debra.

Debra Conway says this was even worse than that. I think this was when that goof Platzman was promoting her. Debra said it was pretty clear that it was scripted, and every once in awhile Anna lost her lines. The whole thing is that Baker had nothing to corroborate her story at first. But her so-called Team at that time, I think it was Shackleford and Platzman and one other person, went out and tried to find something--anything. So this embarrassment was one of the results. If I recall, this was before Haslam changed his mind about her. Carol Hewett was surprised that he did that. Carol, a good lawyer, worked on her case for Sixth Minutes. She recommended against it. But then somehow, some way, Haslam changed his mind on her.

Ron, In my view I do not think she is talking about regime change wars in the historical sense, that is going back to say WW I. I think she is mainly addressing the more recent ones. Perhaps since Reagan. Is anyone going to say that Nicaragua was not designed as regime change?

This was my presentation at CAPA. I had not been to one of these in about three years. But since Oliver went, so did I. As most of you know, I have been working on Kennedy's foreign policy for about the last 5-6 years. Since Oliver was there, I switched back to my old topic. There are some things in this that I had never brought up at any conference. https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-fbi-jfk-and-jim-garrison

FYI: Judy Baker is not in the documentary I am writing. He and I disagree about her.

I should have mentioned Shane's book about Watergate. That one and Gray's book are the recent ones worth reading.

If anything shows you you he was , this does. If you recall he tried to say in his book that the two never knew each other. HAHAHA

Warren, is almost as bad as HRC, but no Democrat can be that bad, so I thought: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-defends-israeli-shelling-of-gaza-schools_n_5b5067a0e4b086092477108b?fbclid=IwAR1GkSqKFO_FcyvOmkBn74xhj6j01amGf2mmTxFYvaNylhXdBNOT7SxmP8s

BTW, this was all made worse by Robert Redford. Who fell for the book All the President's Men in all its aspects. I have always felt that Bernstein kind of understood what happened later. If you recall, he quit the Post. He then wrote that milestone article about Operation Mockingbird in Rolling Stone. A lot of that came from the stuff that the Church Committee was not allowed to print once Bush became CIA DIrector. I kind of felt that perhaps Bernstein realized what Woodward and Bradlee were up to.

Ron, Paul. If you do not read Secret Agenda then you do not know the other half of the story. Its like talking about the JFK case if you have only read the Warren Report.

Ed Gray finished the book his father L. Patrick Gray started, In Nixon's Web. Which, BTW, is the best of the newer books on the subject. Clearly better than Risen's or Holland's. Neither father nor son thought that Felt was the only source that Woodward used. So Ed Gray went to the University of Texas archives, the place the two twerps--Woodward and Bernstein--sent their notes for quite a ducal sum. Gray found out that clearly, through his own hand and descriptions, Felt was not Woodward's only Deep Throat source. And when he called Woodward, it made for a humorous conversation. I agree with Hougan. Robert Bennett had to be one of the sources for the composite character. But Woodward could never admit that after Jim Hougan printed the Lukoskie memo. William, very glad you read Secret Agenda. One of the very best books, if not the best, ever written on the subject I think.

Can you imagine what the Republicans in the senate will do with this during an impeachment trial?

1. yes 2. Deep Throat was a composite as is proven in the book, In Nixon's Web 3. I don't think so.

William: It was a prostitution of science and knowledge. What made it worse was that neither he nor Breo did any homework at all on the case. They never even talked to Crenshaw. Could Lundberg really not have known that everything in the film JFK about the autopsy was from Finck's testimony just as the film depicted?

This guy wants everyone to forget what he did back in 1992. Sorry Dennis, but I did not. It was a disgrace. https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/dennis-breo-the-new-york-times-and-jfk?fbclid=IwAR3E1m0j7wsoh8JfLxKLkHAxv5FKE1dIj4LxII_Q1PrVS5xh6drpy1i1eBw