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Moving forward from the two links provided,I would recommend paying attention to what Mary Woodward describes next:
“After acknowledging our cheers, he faced forward again and suddenly there was a horrible, ear-shattering noise coming from behind us and a little to the right.
My first reaction, and also my friends’, was that as a joke, someone had backfired their car.
Apparently the driver and occupants of the President’s car had the same impression, because instead of speeding up, the car came almost to a halt.
Things are a little hazy from this point, but I don’t believe anyone was hit with the first bullet.
The President and Mrs. Kennedy turned and looked around, as if they, too, didn’t believe the noise was really coming from a gun. “The same time frame where we see the film alterations of Croft/RoseMary.
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On 12/3/2021 at 11:58 AM, Chris Davidson said:
Woodward was at approx extant z197 according to DR's map which is around Station# 3+61
Extant z207 physical location is Station# 3+71.1 about a 10ft difference between extant z197-z207.
She describes at least two shots approx 100ft farther down Elm.
Extant z313 shot at Station# 465.3
465.3 - 361 = 104ft.
In her interview in the documentary "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" she in essence says the last two shots overlapped each other in sound.
Denise,
Besides her article which is published on Nov23 1963, approx two weeks later, Woodward's statement about the two near simultaneous shots 100ft farther down Elm St.
As far as I know, she never saw the extant Zfilm before writing her article or making her statement.
You don't need to be an expert on distances to understand that Woodward was quite accurate in her description of where the two near simultaneous shots occurred on Elm St.
When a person "waves", normally their hand(singular) moves up and outward away from the body, not inward.
There is no film footage of JFK that I have come across which shows JFK waving to the crowd with both hands(simultaneously).
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On 12/24/2021 at 12:50 AM, Chris Davidson said:
From wikipedia:
In early 1967, Life released a statement saying that four frames of the original (frames 208–211) were accidentally destroyed, and the adjacent frames damaged, by a Life photo lab technician on November 23, 1963. Life released those missing frames from the first-generation copy it had received from the film's original version
So, this occurs the day after the original film was processed and three Jamieson copies are created.
More help for this area:
Imagine what a head turn would look like among two different frames on the right side.
Then, imagine what a head turn would look like from the same frame(supposedly), but from two different films on the leftside.
What do you think the alterationists were trying to hide at this point?
I wonder if it was an obvious reaction to a shot.
We can't have that occur when there's another shot reaction on the extant film approx one second later.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dKWsUnXHkmXGVJMyvOzkkc3zVmzcgRd6/view?usp=sharing
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On 12/22/2021 at 4:25 PM, Jonathan Cohen said:
Do you believe that any of the 30 frames from the Zapruder film published in Life on Nov. 29, 1963 were altered? If so, the conspirators would have had just a handful of days to do these alterations by combining elements from this alleged second Dealey Plaza film prior to Life going to the presses?
How many of those 30 frames included the image "between the sprocket holes"?
Since the answer is ZERO, there is no reason for discussing them.
The more pertinent question that needs answering is Croft's lower half, among other items.
Let me provide some more info on that area of the film.
From wikipedia:
In early 1967, Life released a statement saying that four frames of the original (frames 208–211) were accidentally destroyed, and the adjacent frames damaged, by a Life photo lab technician on November 23, 1963. Life released those missing frames from the first-generation copy it had received from the film's original version
So, this occurs the day after the original film was processed and three Jamieson copies are created.
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32 minutes ago, Denise Hazelwood said:
Then go back and re-read your own witness accounts.
I have previously provided the location of Woodward.
She was a reporter at the time.
Where is the blood description of a prior headshot, as JFK moves past Woodward?
Dallas Morning News (Dallas, Texas), 23 November 1963, page 3
Here is an excerpt from her article:
Witness from The News Describes Assassination
(The following eyewitness account was written by a Dallas News staff writer.)
By Mary E. Woodward
"Four of us from Women’s News, Maggie Brown, Aurelia Alonzo, my roommate Ann Donaldson, and myself had decided to spend our lunch hour by going to see the President.
We took our lunch along – some crackers and apples – and started walking down Houston Street. We decided to cross Elm and wait there on the grassy slope just east of the Triple Underpass, since there weren’t very many people there and we could get a better view.
We had been waiting about half an hour when the first motorcycle escorts came by, followed shortly by the President’s car. The President was looking straight ahead and we were afraid we would not get to see his face. But we started clapping and cheering and both he and Mrs. Kennedy turned, and smiled and waved, directly at us, it seemed. Jackie was wearing a beautiful pink suit with beret to match. Two of us, who had seen the President last during the final weeks of the 1960 campaign, remarked almost simultaneously how relaxed and robust he looked.
As it turned out, we were almost certainly the last faces he noticed in the crowd."
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1 hour ago, Jonathan Cohen said:
Are you suggesting that Zapruder and Sitzman were willing conspirators in filming the motorcade as part of a larger conspiracy?
Who Knows?
What is blatantly obvious, is, someone was up on the wall behind the pedestal before the extant Zfilm was finished being filmed.
No mention of this person by ANYBODY.
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3 hours ago, Chris Davidson said:
Glad the re-enactments could be of service:
Action!!!
In case you didn't see his partner up there:
Or, is that just light coming through the trees. LOL
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On 10/7/2021 at 6:42 PM, Chris Davidson said:
Wiegman comes through with flying colors showing us the 2nd cameraman/film, his location
and
Glad the re-enactments could be of service:
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If I was going to apply some matte/mask work to an existing film, I might entertain the idea of creating a pre-molded sculpture to work from.
That might then have to be taken into account when judging body movement/position after receiving bullet wounds.
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2 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
One of the ongoing theories that makes me cringe is that Greer stopped the limo to facilitate the shooting. This makes sense to those not invested in actually researching the case, IMO. The reality is that any shooter from distance would have been tracking the limo and would have preferred his target maintain a consistent speed. Greer's erratic driving, then, could have saved Kennedy's life. But it wasn't his day. Nor was it the country's.
I haven’t heard that brought up in ages. In fact, it’s another method by which to divert attention away from and discredit the alteration of the film. IMO
What doesn't make sense is Greer was only traveling 9.72mph from extant z276-z301 well after, at least according to the extant film, shots had been fired and passenger/s had been hit, while also looking backwards at extant z283. Then he looks backwards at approx extant z303(z301-z313 = 7.47mph). So, now he has looked backwards twice while his limo speed is slowing and a headshot occurs.
There is nothing on the extant film which shows any erratic driving by Greer before the extant headshot and shortly thereafter. Only a consistent speed preferred by a shooter(your words).
Frazier(our resident firearms expert) didn’t appear to agree with a shooter having any problem hitting that melon even at a constant 11.3mph.
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. The time the speed of the moving object was calculated on the basis of an assumed 5.5-second interval for a distance of 90 feet, which figures out mathematically to be 11.3 miles per hour.
Mr. FRAZIER - At that range, at that distance, 175 to 265 feet, with this rifle and that telescopic sight, I would not have allowed any lead--I would not have made any correction for lead merely to hit a target of that size.
So, I believe it’s safe to assume that any change in speed at or below 7.5mph(extant z301-z313) down to stopping wouldn’t have made much of a difference to a shooter/s. IMO
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On 12/16/2021 at 10:02 AM, Chris Davidson said:
Elev 430.2(southside annex road curb) - 418.48(extantz313)= 11.72ft - 4.1ft(JFK head height) = 7.62ft + 4.38ft(XP100 Barrel above street) = 12ft
Landis tells us what the altered film can't show us.
That, which would match the HSCA drawing above, a shot/s coming from a location much lower than the 6th floor.
A location where a good size piece of brain (would follow the direction of a bullet, traveling southwest, traversing JFK's head) lands near the gutter, some 10ft further down Elm from where the headshot/s occurred.
An approx 11° forward nod(a far cry from tilted slightly back) that doesn't concur with the second shot if a connection back to the sixth floor TSBD is to be believed.
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53 minutes ago, John Butler said:
I have been saying this for months or longer. This is the first time you've noticed this? If so, you should have spoken up earlier. Now, because of your mysterious and ambiguous posts lacking full information or a least a modest explanation I have to go back to acknowledging a maybe yes/maybe no position could be there.
Why don't you locate my original posting with the gif above, where I'm pretty sure I described that I attached the Photoshop adjustments in the gif, if it wasn't obvious enough to begin with.
What do you think the "OK, Cancel, Load,Save, Preview" buttons represented?
Maybe if you would show everyone the entire gif I posted, which included the curves dialogue box attached to those buttons, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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14 hours ago, Chris Davidson said:
Elev 430.2(southside annex road curb) - 418.48(extantz313)= 11.72ft - 4.1ft(JFK head height) = 7.62ft + 4.38ft(XP100 Barrel above street) = 12ft
Directing your attention to the 2:05 mark of the video for his thickness description of the Harper fragment:
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8 hours ago, Claude Barnabe said:
Chris
Based on the data you present here and on the 'Shooter(s) Location(s)' topic, I count a total of (3) shots to JFK's head.
1) South knoll, entrance at hairline in forehead above JFK's right corner eye and exiting the occipital. This entrance is seen in the Bethesda autopsy photos. Causing the grapefruit size exit in the rear of head as seen by Parkland doctors. This must have been a FMJ bullet. Little or no energy transfer to the body.
2) North knoll, entrance at right temple hairline causing the 'back and to the left' motion seen on the Z film. Since there is pronounced transfer of energy from the projectile to JFK body, the round must have been hollow point or frangible.
3) Elm street extension, entering rear top of head (crown) and exiting temporal region. Not sure about projectile type.
Is that the consensus?
Claude,
Those are possibilities.
Personally believe the extant z313 shot is from behind(head moves forward in a similar fashion) using the execution video as a comparing tool. At least one shot from the Elm St extension.
The execution video shows no backwards movement. That person is hit in the head at least two times and possibly three. Granted, he does lift up, but never moves backwards, just falls over to the side. Dead weight. (No pun intended). There might be a rope restriction argument in there, but I just don't buy it right now.
If there is another execution video(headshot/s -person sitting down) more representative of what we see in the extant Zfilm than what I have posted, hope someone will provide it. I have not seen one.
Consensus? I don't know.
You could try starting a new topic and asking for input, it might give you a better idea of where individuals stand.
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2 hours ago, John Butler said:
Gerry,
I did think at one time PM was holding a coke. But, the John Martin film changed that. A PM figure on Elm Street is taking photos. His camera flashes. Then Chris Davidson showed that there was a camera flash with PM.
What are you talking about.
Are you under the impression that the lightened circle, within the shadow area, around PM, is a camera flash?
Do you not understand that it was created by selecting that area and using lightening techniques in Photoshop.
Or, do you actually think the white object near the face is a camera flash?
Neither are a flash. See gif below.
Now, I did say at some point I thought the object near the face might be a camera or a mug or a ??? who knows.
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Elev 430.2(southside annex road curb) - 418.48(extantz313)= 11.72ft - 4.1ft(JFK head height) = 7.62ft + 4.38ft(XP100 Barrel above street) = 12ft
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On 12/14/2021 at 10:54 AM, Chris Davidson said:
This is where he stops.
So, something like this:
In his own words:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GNQeypf_bjwXLNnhsYu3eqWAbiOOyBoC/view?usp=sharing
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On 12/10/2021 at 11:41 AM, Chris Davidson said:
Perhaps breaking down extantz313 into an elevation context would help some realize the important role 10 inches plays in the charade.
The difference between 3.27 and 4.1ft.
Puzzle Pieces:
Two shots in one.
13.54"(10 + 3.54) converted to elev = 1.12ft which is (more than likely) what they used for their elev from "rifle end to windowsill" (see graphic above)
And, 3.54" converted to elev = 3.54/12" = .295 x 18.3ft = 5.4ft farther west down Elm St.
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11 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
If you read the Twitter accounts of any of the above Congress members, you will be appalled at the abhorrent reality of their mere existence. They are a disgrace to the United States.
Possibly, some icing on the cake.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/two-jan-6-organizers-coming-025927382.html
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Out from the shadow he comes.
Anyone care to identify him?
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Breaking it down some more:
Besides the heads initial forward movement, he reaches maximum lift in four frames from impact, before the next shot hits.
That's with a rope restriction. Don't know if he would have moved higher without it.
Since this was a war crimes execution, it appears to be a 24fps movie back in the 1940/1950's era.
Converted: 18.3/24 = .7625x4
24= 3.05 frames post impact.
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42 minutes ago, Chris Davidson said:
The stairs are a little more than 50ft past extant Z313.
Station# 465.3 - 517.5 = 52.3ft
If Harper showed the location some 100ft farther down Elm, please provide the documentation for this.
Because, somewhere from 1969 until a more recent video(where he is walking to the discovery location), he places his find approx 10ft farther down or over from the extant z313 location.
I posted that video awhile back showing Harper stopping to describe his discovery, a LOS can be drawn back to the Bronson flash.
Which is between 5.5ft and 11.1 ft after the extant z313 shot.
This is where he stops.
So, something like this:
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7 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
I asked one of them why the program showed the Harper fragment to the left of the limo's location at 313 when as far back as 1969 Harper showed researchers where he found it and it was a hundred feet or so down the road, just past the steps. And he said that he thought Harper was mistaken. Similarly, David Mantik has claimed that someone must have moved it before Harper discovered it.
The stairs are a little more than 50ft past extant Z313.
Station# 465.3 - 517.5 = 52.3ft
If Harper showed the location some 100ft farther down Elm, please provide the documentation for this.
Because, somewhere from 1969 until a more recent video(where he is walking to the discovery location), he places his find approx 10ft farther down or over from the extant z313 location.
I posted that video awhile back showing Harper stopping to describe his discovery, a LOS can be drawn back to the Bronson flash.
Which is between 5.5ft and 11.1 ft after the extant z313 shot.
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Slowed down and complete, without the opacity layers.
Unveiling The Limo Stop
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
How does it appear in the context of the extant film itself.
Using Groden's missing (208-212, not that they are the camera originals-imo)frames, some signs that direct us to the removal of frames besides the Croft/RoseMary problems.
If Z is panning the limo traveling at approx 11mph, in five frames at 18.3fps, the distance (large lateral frame movement) he pans is not even close to representing an 18.3fps rate.
More frames would.
There needs to be more frames to fill in that lateral span.
But, if he is panning and the limo slows/almost stops (Woodward description)and he keeps panning at the same rate, then in essence it appears he's over-panning, brought about by the vehicle's speed reduction.
Please also note the speed at which the umbrella rises in relationship to the limo moving and the gentleman walking in the background.
Most everyone has a cellphone where you can replicate this action. Just don't have the driver tell you when they are going to slow down/stop while you're filming them.
BTW, the gif plays at approx 17fps.