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Unveiling The Limo Stop
Chris Davidson replied to Chris Davidson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
More of the WC pyramid at the bottom. If interested, you can compare it to the earlier, less completed version here: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22692-swan-song-math-rules/?do=findComment&comment=327975 I'll explain the additions slowly, but surely. -
The Harper Fragment proves a lot.
Chris Davidson replied to Eddy Bainbridge's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Keep the Faith. Soon, the next revelation batch will connect more of the WC jigsaw puzzle. Back now to Eddy's research. -
Plotting Wiegman’s starting position using Mark’s CameraCar#1 location at extant z447(11 seconds in) and Wiegman’s filming position of the Hester’s using the Bell film, along with a direct line down to where Wiegman starts filming the Newman’s approx five feet up from the sidewalk. Wiegman to steps = 165ft Wiegman to Newmans = 41ft 206ft Wiegman stops to film Hesters = 2.56sec Wiegman Stands 3.4(Couch) -1 = 2.4sec Wiegman stops to film Newmans = 6seconds 11seconds 31.15 - 11sec = 20.15seconds 206ft / 20.15sec = 10.22ft per sec = 6.95mph = average Wiegman running speed. The two possible extended time gaps would be Wiegman standing up between the Bell and Couch films and before he starts filming the Newman’s.
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The small center frame above is approx 11 seconds after the Wiegman film begins. From that point until the 26.75 second mark(Hester sync in the colonnade) is continuous filming. Wiegman stops filming approx 4/10 sec after that. Bell picks up Wiegman starting to rise, then Couch picks up Wiegman fully standing and running down the knoll. Wiegman then films the Newman's on the ground and then onto Cameracar 1. 26.75-11 sec = 15.75 + .4 = 16.15seconds 1.73Bell + 1rise + 3.4Couch(-1Wiegman rise overlap) + 3.58 run down knoll + (6+) Wiegman starts filming Newmans = 15 seconds more 16.15+15 =31.15sec This assumes when Wiegman arrives at the bottom of the knoll and starts filming the Newman's, it starts immediately after we no longer see him in Couch. Any delay adds more total time. The Wiegman film was 36.5 seconds total for the Elm St sequence. It was not a continuous 36.5 second clip.
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In addition to the graphic above, using the same fame as the stopping point for CameraCar#3 while referring back to the National Press Pool Car (which appears in the Couch film shot from CameraCar#3)as it hits the underpass shadow, the motorcade stop is approx 20.7 seconds using CameraCar#3 as the marker in the gif below I pointed this out to Mark and he duly implemented it, in the animation, some time ago. https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25932-the-motorcade-puzzle/?do=findComment&comment=408758
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Bob Jackson was also in CameraCar#3:
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Mrs. CABELL. If I did, I don't recall. I am completely aware of the people running up that hill. I saw the man throw the child on the ground and throw himself. I saw a woman in a bright green dress throw herself on the ground. I saw the policeman running up the grassy slope. Mr. HUBERT. You also mentioned that you were acutely aware of the smell of gunpowder? Mrs. CABELL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. When was that relative to the shots? I mean how soon after? Mrs. CABELL. I cannot say for sure, because as I told you, the motorcade was stopped. And somewhere in there, Congressman Roberts said, "That is a .30-06." I didn't know what a .30-06 was. Mr. HUBERT. Did he say that after all the shots were fired? Mrs. CABELL. I believe so. There was much confusion. Mr. HUBERT. And it was about that time that you observed the odor? Mrs CABELL. Of gunpowder. Mr. HUBERT. That was when your car at least had come to a standstill? Mrs. CABELL. Every car in the motorcade had come to a standstill.
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John, The Cabell/Couch descriptions of their first shot reaction locations are placed fairly accurately by Mark, if you use the extant z207 splice and Robert West plotting of a shot at approx the same z207 location. imo Couch's description is 15-20ft after the turn onto Houston St.
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Eddy, For a number of reasons, I'm sticking with approx 1.8 seconds+1 frame = 33/34zframes at 18.3fps, not necessarily all in one swoop, for now.
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Matches quite well with what Mrs.Cabell states below. imo Mrs. CABELL. If I did, I don't recall. I am completely aware of the people running up that hill. I saw the man throw the child on the ground and throw himself. I saw a woman in a bright green dress throw herself on the ground. I saw the policeman running up the grassy slope. Mr. HUBERT. You also mentioned that you were acutely aware of the smell of gunpowder? Mrs. CABELL. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. When was that relative to the shots? I mean how soon after? Mrs. CABELL. I cannot say for sure, because as I told you, the motorcade was stopped. And somewhere in there, Congressman Roberts said, "That is a .30-06." I didn't know what a .30-06 was. Mr. HUBERT. Did he say that after all the shots were fired? Mrs. CABELL. I believe so. There was much confusion. Mr. HUBERT. And it was about that time that you observed the odor? Mrs. CABELL. Of gunpowder. Mr. HUBERT. That was when your car at least had come to a standstill? Mrs. CABELL. Every car in the motorcade had come to a standstill.
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Don't have a problem with earlier shots. Possibly near the film splices at extant z157/207 as the limo slows (same driver reaction) in each instance. Nor at the extant z133 and Towner splice. But, as I specified previously by showing the plotting differences between Mark and me in relationship to the mayors car radius and converting that into distance and frames via the speeds provided, the limo is slowly retarding to its correct position while syncing up the Wiegman start along the way. imo I think we agree there is a gap, not necessarily the size/s or location/s of it.
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John, I believe the mayors car stops (slows to a stop?) after the extant z218 shot(probably between extant z224-z257), when put in the context of Wiegman decides to start filming as the motorcade starts moving again.
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What I do believe is quite possible and highly probable is the mayors car traversed that same location at 8.6mph along with the limo and Wiegman's car. 8.6mph x 1.47 = 12.642ft per sec 12.642ft / 18.3 = .69ft per frame 6.88ft/.69ft per frame = 9.97frames This difference matches the radius difference and therefore would set the start of the Wiegman film at extant z270 or ten frames earlier than extant z280. Added on Edit: The plat key I'm using is 1" = 10ft - broken into 1/8 spans = 1.25ft The difference in radius's previously supplied are: 3.75 x1.25ft = 4.68ft 5.5 x 1.25ft = 6.875ft
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Do you believe a reasonable belief could be that cars in close proximity to the mayor's car would traverse the Wiegman film start location at the same speed as the limo? In this case, Wiegman's car. In other words, within the motorcade the mayors car was sandwiched between the limo and Wiegman's car. Why would I believe otherwise that the speed(8.6mph) of the limo, mayor's car and Wiegman's car would vary much as is portrayed by Wiegman's speed matching the limo speed at the appropriate location?
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The speed increase starting ten frames earlier from the mayors car at z280(version2.1) vs. the mayors car at z270(version2.3): Refer to my two previous graphics for help. 10.4 - 7.8 = 2.6mph x 1.47 = 3.822 x 1.8 sec = 6.8796ft 2.6 x 1.47 = 3.822ft per sec/18.3 = .208ft per frame 6.8796ft/.208 = 33.07frames
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Tightening your radius aligns both cars vertically but advances your mayors car approx 6.88ft.
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10.4mph - 8.6mph = 1.8mph x 1.47 = 2.646ft per sec x 1.8sec = 4.76ft = see graphic above. 2.646ft per sec/18.3 = .1445ft per frame 4.76ft/.1445ft per frame = 32.94frames = https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25932-the-motorcade-puzzle/?do=findComment&comment=445523
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I believe you need to check your plat in relationship to the Elm St turn. I've indicated with the vertical red stripes a difference in the radius. The red horizontal line with the 4.68ft designation(front end of cars) is a difference indicator between where I would plot the Wiegman start and where you have it starting at z280. Your cars back end is your z270. I have the mayors car at 16.25ft in length which is the spec given for that car from the manufacturer. If this makes sense, I'll then convert the differences moving forward.
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Mr. SPECTER. Well, can you describe the view you say is from the right-hand side of the automobile? Mr. KELLERMAN. That is right. Mr. SPECTER. So that would be on the side of the road where the Texas School Book Depository Building was? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. And approximately where did those pictures begin and end? Mr. KELLERMAN. These pictures began as we turned off Houston Street onto Elm. Wrong side of the road for Towner.
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Wiegman had his camera fully wound before he started shooting the 36.5 seconds of the z sync segment. In essence, he shot all but approx 1/2 second of footage before a rewind was necessary. imo 16mm film = 40frames per foot x 22ft per full wind = 880 frames 36.5sec x 24 fps = 876 frames He stopped filming after Hester entered the colonnade but is picked up by Bell/Couch rising and then starting his run down the knoll to film the Newmans. The time difference connecting the Wiegman rise from Bell/Couch is 1.7 seconds. I truly don't believe Wiegman was winding his film as he was starting to stand and head down the knoll to film the Newmans. Nor do I believe during his run down the knoll he was winding his camera. Nor do I believe when he reached the Newmans that he rewound his camera. I do believe he had his camera fully ready to shoot and shot 36.5 seconds of a 37 second limitation for that rewind. The network television version has a total of 1095 frames(converted from 24fps to 30fps) for the 36.5 second version. 30 x 36.5 = 1095 That version is a 3/2 pulldown result. In essence, for every 4 real(progressive) frames that existed, an extra one was created. 4/5 = .8 1095 x .8 = 876 frames Yes, Myers has the Wiegman start sync wrong at z246, not the frame rate. imo 36:15 below is reflective of a 30fps clock, so 15/30 = .5 second
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Secret Service participation in 1/6 coup attempt
Chris Davidson replied to Matt Allison's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The preponderance of "coup" evidence keeps growing and growing. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-loyalist-jeffrey-clark-shut-045937632.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall https://twitter.com/alex_mallin/status/1422728769584906242 -
Mark, Sometime in the distant past(I'll see if I can find it again) I supplied a graphic that showed the turning radius/position for the mayor's car was tighter than what you were showing, when you had the Wiegman film starting/syncing at extant z295. You now have the Wiegman film starting/syncing at extant z280. The supplied graphic shows you tightened up the turning radius of the mayor's car. In doing this, your Wiegman frame rate dropped. If an even tighter radius exists, does this create another Wiegman frame rate reduction in your opinion?
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Conspiracy Theories & The Media: JFK & Beyond ....
Chris Davidson replied to a topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Do all individuals with micro-bloodclots experience the same/any symptons and degree of severity? https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-viral-posts-misuse-vaers-data-to-make-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccines/ https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-12000/fact-check-vaers-data-does-not-prove-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-exceeded-12000-idUSL1N2P21DB -
It's helping me clarify the (almost) exact differences between two competing scenarios. 33 frames (+/-) 1 frame Frame Markers for example: 100,133,166,200