Myra Bronstein
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Every President has allowed documents, concerning the assassination of JFK, to be withheld. Allowing secrets to remain, is, in my mind, participation in a cover-up after the fact.
I agree.
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Tim, You seem to fill the role of Costello in Abbott and Costello's famous 'Who's on First' Routine on the Forum.
Peter, that is a quote for the ages.
Most enjoyable.
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What would people think of the idea of writing a wiki page about the JFK research and discussion forums?
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Where'd Vince go?
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"It's easy for soldiers to score heroin in Afghanistan
Simultaneously stressed and bored, U.S. soldiers are turning to the widely available drug for a quick escape.
Aug. 7, 2007 | BAGRAM, Afghanistan -- Just outside the main gate to Bagram airfield, a U.S. military installation in Afghanistan, sits a series of small makeshift shops known by locals as the Bagram Bazaar. For Afghans, it is the place to buy American goods, but the stalls that make up the heart of the bazaar are also well known for what they provide American soldiers stationed at Bagram. Walking through the bazaar it takes less than 10 minutes for a vendor in his early 20s to step out and ask, "You want whiskey?" "No, heroin," I tell him. He ushers me into his store with a smile.
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The true extent of the heroin problem among American soldiers now serving in Iraq and Afghanistan is unknown. At Bagram, according to a written statement provided by a spokesperson for the base, Army Maj. Chris Belcher, the "Military Police receive few reports of alcohol or drug issues." The military has statistics on how many troops failed drug tests, but the best information on long-term addiction comes from the U.S. Veterans Administration. The VA is the world's largest provider of substance abuse services, caring for more than 350,000 veterans per year, of whom about 30,000 are being treated for opiate addiction. Only preliminary information for Iraq and Afghanistan is available, however, and veterans of those conflicts are not yet showing up in the stats.
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Another benefit for the CIA. Turning entire generations of soldiers into junkies will be good for business once they get back to the US. I wonder if that's part of the grand design.
Don't blame the soldiers. Many [most according to polls] know the current wars are lost and based on lies, and further, who in the line of fire for little to nothing and having to kill innoncent men, women and children all day for measly pay would not want to get 'spaced' out to try to forget and relieve the fear, anxiety and guilt. These images will haunt them all their lives, so you're right... many may need the escape forever......but they are small in number compaired to the total population using drugs worldwide and in USA.
McCoy's great book apparently online now:
Ah!
Thank you Peter.
I'm maintaining a list of relevant free online books here:
http://www.jfktimeline.com/onlinebooks.html
So if anyone knows of some that aren't on the list please let me know.
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See Brad Ayers' remarks on falsified deaths as standard operational proceedure here [interesting in other respects in and of itself, also]
WOW Peter.
Wow.
That is freakin' interesting!
And as you indicated, it applies to a few discussions here.
In fact you might want to post it in some other relevant threads.
Like here:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...30&start=30
It'll be interesting to observe the Ambassador hotel saga as it unfolds.
Really, how can anyone believe anything that comes from the agency or their agents?
Thanks for posting this.
Shane posted it and got it from Brad Ayers.
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Where did he post it Peter?
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See Brad Ayers' remarks on falsified deaths as standard operational proceedure here [interesting in other respects in and of itself, also]
WOW Peter.
Wow.
That is freakin' interesting!
And as you indicated, it applies to a few discussions here.
In fact you might want to post it in some other relevant threads.
Like here:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...30&start=30
It'll be interesting to observe the Ambassador hotel saga as it unfolds.
Really, how can anyone believe anything that comes from the agency or their agents?
Thanks for posting this.
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"It's easy for soldiers to score heroin in Afghanistan
Simultaneously stressed and bored, U.S. soldiers are turning to the widely available drug for a quick escape.
Aug. 7, 2007 | BAGRAM, Afghanistan -- Just outside the main gate to Bagram airfield, a U.S. military installation in Afghanistan, sits a series of small makeshift shops known by locals as the Bagram Bazaar. For Afghans, it is the place to buy American goods, but the stalls that make up the heart of the bazaar are also well known for what they provide American soldiers stationed at Bagram. Walking through the bazaar it takes less than 10 minutes for a vendor in his early 20s to step out and ask, "You want whiskey?" "No, heroin," I tell him. He ushers me into his store with a smile.
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The true extent of the heroin problem among American soldiers now serving in Iraq and Afghanistan is unknown. At Bagram, according to a written statement provided by a spokesperson for the base, Army Maj. Chris Belcher, the "Military Police receive few reports of alcohol or drug issues." The military has statistics on how many troops failed drug tests, but the best information on long-term addiction comes from the U.S. Veterans Administration. The VA is the world's largest provider of substance abuse services, caring for more than 350,000 veterans per year, of whom about 30,000 are being treated for opiate addiction. Only preliminary information for Iraq and Afghanistan is available, however, and veterans of those conflicts are not yet showing up in the stats.
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Another benefit for the CIA. Turning entire generations of soldiers into junkies will be good for business once they get back to the US. I wonder if that's part of the grand design.
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Sorry, I do not see Operation Mockingbird (if that indeed was its name) as quite as sinister as most everyone else here seems to. To some extent CIA influence on the press was intended to present a favorable view of the United States and the West and to the extent that was its mission it deserves plaudits not scorn.
I note John has not yet responded to how he thinks the CIA goes about "blocking the mainstream press". If there is such an ongoing operation, certainly the people who are "on to it" must know how it works. Wouldn't you think?
Propaganda is inherently sinister.
And I can't speak for John but when someone poses questions designed to wind me up and waste my time, I'll demonstrate my time management skills by ignoring the supposed question.
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John wrote:
"I am of the opinion that the CIA is still able to block the mainstream media from discussing this subject in a rational way."
John just how do you suppose the CIA accomplishes this?
Tim, If you're going to indulge in a delightful game of 'wind up' then at least insure that you don't make yourself look pathologically uninformed in the process. Take a few moments to learn about the CIA's Operation Mockingbird, and embrace the reality that the mere exposure of the program in a congressional hearing doesn't mean the program ended.
Armed with that background, and with your razer sharp powers of perception, you should be able of see for yourself that the mainstream media censors whatever the Big Boss tells them to censor.
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I have a website about our common subject. It's a work in progress but I want it to be seen. So I'm getting serious about SEO. If you have a JFK website or ideas about promoting such a website you may want to participate in this thread.
A couple of threads preceded this. They give the background.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10646
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10652
I'll just add that the internet is our last best chance to reach people.
We won't reach enough people without utilizing good SEO practices.
And I don't think the internet will be available to us in it's present form for very long.
I don't think I'm being alarmist or melodramatic when I say that the Big Bad is not pleased that us riff raff are fingering the family jewels. So they will hobble the internet as fast as possible (e.g., "net neutrality"). Then this is our big chance, and we have a brief window of opportunity.
Here is what I know about SEO (relax this won't take long):
1) Metatags still matter... some.
The title tag is important, search engines may look at them. Plus the contents are displayed at the top of the webpage. Max length = 90 characters.
The description tag is also important because the contents are displayed by search engines so people will read it to decide if they want to visit your site. 200 characters max.
Finally, the keyword tag should be used. 500 characters max.
According to this site you should have different meta tags on every page of your site.
http://www.hypergurl.com/metatags.html
2) Google cares passionately about quantity and quality of links, especially inbound links (other websites that link to our page). John already addressed that in his thread so I won't repeat it. You can read what google says for yourself: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/b...py?answer=35769
I'll just stress that even though Wiki is a propaganda pit, they're a valuable SEO tool. Here are some ways to use it (culled from other threads):
2a) Add your website as an external link on relevant pages like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_assassination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_t...y_assassination
I think you have to have a login and be logged in to edit/add a link. Easy enough.
Less easy, mine disappears sometimes. So I have to add it again. Wonder whatsup with that...
2b) Add your own wiki page. Someone here did this a while back and it was a revelation to me. Argh, I can't recall who. Anyone remember? Anyway, I still need to do this one.
2c) Exchange links with each other. If a lot of us have link pages and with reciprocal links that will help.
2d) Other high volume places (which google values) to link to our pages are social network sites: myspace, del.icio.us, ...
3) Other sites can be valuable partners. Utilize youtube. We should create tie-ins between our sites and youtube. Can we post links there? Add yourself to stumbleupon. And so on.
I suggest we share ideas here.
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A CIA memo dated June 5, 1968 states that Bohning was known within the agency as AMCARBON 3 -- AMCARBON was the cryptonym that the CIA used to identify friendly reporters and editors who covered Cuba. (AMCARBON 1 was Bohning’s colleague at the Miami Herald, Latin America editor Al Burt.) According to the agency memo, which dealt with New Orleans prosecutor Jim Garrison’s investigation of the Kennedy assassination, Bohning passed along information about the Garrison probe to the CIA.
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Wow, the mother of all rebuttals.
It sure would be interesting to know the cryptonym for all CIA mockingbirds.
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The "benchwarmer" leaving the bench (where was it?):
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Well there must have been a bench on the grassy knoll.
That's why mobs of people raced there after the murder, overcome with fatigue as they were and needing a quick sit down.
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Should have titled this thread " Can we really understand world politics without understanding international drug trafficking?"
Here I thought the US went into Afghanistan because of the Caspian pipeline.
"Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time
By CRAIG MURRAY - More by this author » Last updated at 20:45pm on 21st July 2007
This week the 64th British soldier to die in Afghanistan, Corporal Mike Gilyeat, was buried. All the right things were said about this brave soldier, just as, on current trends, they will be said about one or more of his colleagues who follow him next week.
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There has been too easy an acceptance of the lazy notion that the war in Afghanistan is the 'good' war, while the war in Iraq is the 'bad' war, the blunder. The origins of this view are not irrational. There was a logic to attacking Afghanistan after 9/11.
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Afghanistan was not militarily winnable by the British Empire at the height of its supremacy. It was not winnable by Darius or Alexander, by Shah, Tsar or Great Moghul. It could not be subdued by 240,000 Soviet troops. But what, precisely, are we trying to win?
In six years, the occupation has wrought one massive transformation in Afghanistan, a development so huge that it has increased Afghan GDP by 66 per cent and constitutes 40 per cent of the entire economy. That is a startling achievement, by any standards. Yet we are not trumpeting it. Why not?
The answer is this. The achievement is the highest harvests of opium the world has ever seen.
The Taliban had reduced the opium crop to precisely nil. I would not advocate their methods for doing this, which involved lopping bits, often vital bits, off people. The Taliban were a bunch of mad and deeply unpleasant religious fanatics. But one of the things they were vehemently against was opium.
That is an inconvenient truth that our spin has managed to obscure. Nobody has denied the sincerity of the Taliban's crazy religious zeal, and they were as unlikely to sell you heroin as a bottle of Johnnie Walker.
They stamped out the opium trade, and impoverished and drove out the drug warlords whose warring and rapacity had ruined what was left of the country after the Soviet war.
That is about the only good thing you can say about the Taliban; there are plenty of very bad things to say about them. But their suppression of the opium trade and the drug barons is undeniable fact.
Now we are occupying the country, that has changed. According to the United Nations, 2006 was the biggest opium harvest in history, smashing the previous record by 60 per cent. This year will be even bigger.
Our economic achievement in Afghanistan goes well beyond the simple production of raw opium. In fact Afghanistan no longer exports much raw opium at all. It has succeeded in what our international aid efforts urge every developing country to do. Afghanistan has gone into manufacturing and 'value-added' operations.
It now exports not opium, but heroin. Opium is converted into heroin on an industrial scale, not in kitchens but in factories. Millions of gallons of the chemicals needed for this process are shipped into Afghanistan by tanker. The tankers and bulk opium lorries on the way to the factories share the roads, improved by American aid, with Nato troops.
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On edit:
Thought this part was interesting too-- "There are a number of theories as to why Litvinenko had to flee Russia. The most popular blames his support for the theory that FSB agents planted bombs in Russian apartment blocks to stir up anti-Chechen feeling.
But the truth is that his discoveries about the heroin trade were what put his life in danger."
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The entire Abort Team myth doesn't pass the laugh test.
Charles
And, in fact, in another thread on the forum many people gave their opinions on whether or not they believe the abort story.
Not one said they believe it.
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Tommy Makem sang this song for JFK in 1962, and it became the title of Ken O'Donnell's memoir of his time in the White House:
Heartbreaking.
They're rollin' out the guns again, Haroo, haroo,
they're rollin' out the guns again, Haroo, haroo,
they're rollin' out the guns again
but they will never get our souls again,
they will never get our souls again,
Johnny I promise te ye!
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I can't resist posting one more song in memory of Tommy Makem.
Tommy is on the left, playing the 5-string banjo:
What a fun song.
The essence of black comedy.
And did they have fun singing it or what?
Did ya catch the little eyebrow raise between Tommy and another member when he called the preacher "bloody sanctimonious"? There's a back story fer sure.
I totally love them.
They seem passionate about everything they sing.
Thanks so much for posting these.
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Paul,
We are on the same page.
I for one am most keenly interested in JFK's journey, if you will -- his intellectual growth and spiritual evolution.
Certainly the latter phenomenon does not lend itself to quanitfication. And I suspect that, for large groups of materialists and moral relativists, use of the term doesn't pass the laugh test.
Nonetheless, an appreciation of the words spoken by JFK at American University on June 10, 1963 -- one enhanced by a comparison with previous public pronouncements (for fine example, his inaugural address) -- reveals to me a flowering mind and liberated spirit undergoing metamorphoses that no force on earth could hinder.
But that tiny pieces of base metal projected at high speed could banish from our shared plane.
Charles
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Exquisitely well-put, C.D.
Thank you.
Yes.
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I think President Kennedy was well beyond liberal and even beyond progressive.
He was positively revolutionary.
Three words: American University speech.
Talk about being out of the mainstream.
Furthermore he was out of the mainstream on pretty much every subject or issue.
And the mainstream was crawling with fossils and fascists.
As David Talbot said:
"He is still a man ahead of his time."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...35905-4,00.html
A revolutionary idealist.
I suppose there never will be a time for someone like that.
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It seems like when navy intelligence is mentioned in the context of the assassination of President Kennedy (virtual) eyebrows go up, more so than when other military intelligence is mentioned. Is that my imagination? If not, why is navy intelligence considered significant?
Also, the Suite 8F group had a few members in the Secretary of Navy slot: John Connally, Fred Korth, Robert B. Anderson...
John has made the understandable point that "It was always important for the Suite 8F Group to have their man as Secretary of the Navy. Not only did he influence federal contracts for aircraft, ships, etc. he was also responsible for the purchase of oil for the American naval fleet."
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...=2868&st=15
But why did they always target the navy? Don't the army and air force have budgets to pilfer?
Does the navy have a bigger budget to spend with corporations?
Does TX have a lot of naval ship yards?
In summation, does the navy warrant more scrutiny than other armed forces in relation to the JFK murder?
If so, why?
Curtis LeMay was the most rabid & suspect of the Chiefs of Staff and he was air force.
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Sorry if someone already posted this link.
I just stumbled across it.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...35905-4,00.html
"He is still a man ahead of his time."
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Ok so this subject has come up before.
Lots of us have JFK-related websites and some of us have tried to improve our site's visibility by placing an external link to our sites at Wiki's main JFK page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy#External_links
First, I recommend that people do that. I mean, McAdams is there...
Second, it appears that it may have to be done multiple times as some links seem to disappear. (Not McAdams of course.)
Just FYI.
I would think that it's the single most significant thing we can do to SEO our sites.
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The death of Tommy Makem leaves only Liam Clancy from the original group who played for JFK.
For our friends down under, here is the greatest anti-war song ever written, by Scottish-Australian songwriter Eric Bogel:
http://www.searchthetube.com/fdsIIeMlj9g/C...altzing_Matilda
Wow J. Ray. That is beyond description.
Thank you for the link.
I wonder if they performed that very song for President Kennedy.
On edit: Whoops, guess not. It was written in 1972.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_The_Band_...altzing_Matilda
Assuming this isn't CIA disinformation...
Ronald Reagan and the JFK Assassination Cover-Up
in JFK Assassination Debate
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More about Rousselot here:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4745
I'm not sure how seriously to take Rousselot as a possible participant.