Ed LeDoux

"38" holster... yep its official... haha And where did that OSWALD sea bag go? Shouldn't Andrej ask Pat a few more pressing questions. Of course Oswald had no key to Beckley. and no receipts or witnesses. But you can take a $ tour. Cheers, Ed

Yes best for Andrej to not have you turn the page. Page 4 Cheers, Ed

As expected. What else can she say? It should bring you or anyone with a little concern to ask why this was never spoken of before this? Seems a large detail to conveniently gloss over. And late arriving detail at that. Why did the room have a lock? Pat is claiming they gave keys to some tenants but not others? How does she know that? Did they charge a deposit for the keys, so a small seven dollar room may cost a dollar more for a key and be $8 Is that the proof you accept? Where are her records on this matter Andrej? She should have more to this than belated story #3. Where is any other tenant saying they stayed in the tiny room sans key? (or even room 1) Where is the original doors with their lock Andrej? Either way it does not make it any more believable anyone would keep a loaded firearm in an unlocked room. I am sure a man who would sit children down to tell them never to hurt another human being would keep a revolver where they might just play or fight, or play fight with the gun... why not keep the rifle in the room? It'd be disassembled and of of course safe as long as a dime was not in proximity... oy vey. Did the Johnson's rooms lock? Did Earlene's room door lock? Doesn't Pat occupy the first room with the same painted glass double doors? Does her door lock now? Why not? Where is that key. Where is the key to the tiny rooms doors? It has a keyhole. Cheers, Ed

Isnt it amazing how many people were informing on others back then. Guess the electronics have superseded human intelligence. Thanks David. Ed PS oddly no such name plate exists likely never did. Also because meter reader checked March 20 and reports it vacant, but March 14th there is a name plate? An FBI report stated a visit to 214 W. Neely, March 14, 1963 showed the mail box had a name plate attached reading Mr. and Mrs. Lee Harvey Oswald. Why stop at the name plate, why not ring the bell or interview the 'name plate' displayers? Week seems enough time for Hosty. Name plate seems an expensive luxury item for renters. Though some tape and a marker could suffice I guess...but that isnt the description.

She was 11 and doesn't admit Mr Lee was Herbert. Her stories have stories. There is no there there Andrej, and never was. The only historical significance is the police frame up used Mr. Lee and Beckley to cinch up a commie cop killer, whom was innocent of all counts... If Lee Oswald did live in any tiny room sans key, receipts, signed guest registration book, and witness then this is a holy place. Much like the virgin Mary was impregnated without intercourse so Oswald too was 'forced' similarly to give birth to a legend of Beckley...without deposit. No contemporary evidence should make one stop and requestion their beliefs. That means your 1026 religion is not based on proofs but hopes and prayers, the true definition of religion Andrej. Much like Jesus, the police tell Johnson's that he wont be coming back. Whoa. How prophetic eh Andrej, must be true. Pat Hall has used rumor and lack of evidence to pay for her lifestyle. Her income is based on her misrepresentations. ... That's saintly Andrej? What part of the planet did you say you inhabit mate? Utopian it must be. As none of your statements make sense in Dallas Texas any day of any week. Cheers, Ed PS you must have found a Beckley Bus witness or Driver if this was gods choice. Double Cheers

Sure, and Fay Puckett could have called in to police. Thus the call from a different address attributed to Gladys and questions about it in documents provided. Fay would of course be saying she knew the man and his address. When she in fact knew a similar fellow named Mr Lee at her mothers rooming house. Why did none of the above get mentioned by anyone involved... What about the employees of the TSBD that rode the Beckley bus daily also? Why were none from this bus ever questioned about this? I do not believe Will Fritz for a hot second. Why Andrej entertains scenarios to absolve a law man who has been proven to be dishonest. Accounting for Fritz's history should preempt all of #2 by Andrej. Then there is a postal informant angle and that 3610 Beckley address. Ed PS PO Informant doesnt have to be Holmes.

Brian Doyle is wrong. Whatever his excuse for being such is irrelevant. I was under production. I did license the film from NBC. But the, I quote, "the powers that be will not allow access to the original..." This was in response to my paying a third party of NBC'S choice to scan the original in 4k or 8k (double scan) at my expense. Then NBC would have their original, plus a free 4k scan that would be better than the eventual deteriorating celluloid. And no... All I was allowed from the gate keepers was a copy from the master copy. That master copy was likely made for the anniversary show on nbc. It could be on 3/4 Umatic - VHS tape ie composite video formats, although that info is not offered up front or when I asked. (really there is no difference in quality compared to the original film though) so you might get a whopping 280 lines of resolution but in a super high quality format of Pro Res HQ. Garbage in a fancy box is still trash. NBC is not making copies from the original to licensee, they already have a copy the licensing department at Universal Clips uses for that. The vault is closed for business... how odd. I would have paid much more for a 4k scanned copy than the multigenerational unknown quality "copies"... seems they dont want better revenues at all but low quality versions of the truth. Please listen to the experts and leave Brian's comments to the appropriate bin. Cheers, Ed Ledoux CEO, Maui Film.

Creating witnesses could be a negative effect. Thus why two assassins are shown if only one patsy was needed..? Likewise if there were plants in the crowd, how effective they were is seen by the length of time between shooting and first finding of the so called snipers nest. That took way too long for a real live shooter tracking the target, taking aim, firing, feverishly working the bolt, aiming, reacquire the target, firing, feverishly working the bolt, aiming, reacquire the target and firing...supposedly waiting to see if target was hit...some even claim a slow withdrawal of rifle from the window. Thusly. If it took longer than a few seconds to point out the exact window you witnessed shots being fired from and what you saw... then you didnt see a active shooter. Your mind told you stuff your eyes didn't witness. Boxes were men with guns. Just ask Robert Groden, I believe he interviewed one of the boxes.. oy vey. Brennan is moot. Eunis less than that. The hundreds of sane rational people witnesses to the event sure as hell did not solely and immediately point to the TSBD. They in fact all went or looked to the railroad yard and triple underpass area. And that's a fact jack! Many sane rational people went directly back inside the TSBD. Not chasing any sniper but went back to work. A broom or mop might be taken for a rifle, after the fact, in an upper floors window. There were others who had no alibi but each other. Jack Dougherty (Gee where is this 'innocent' mans photo????) and Piper. (Fbi photographs Piper and West) Jack mentioned being up on Six about the time he hears one loud noise. But he is a white male... not to be confused with the supposed male white shooter Jack must of been so ugly his family didn't love him enough to take pictures it seems. The fbi too must have taken one look at Dougherty and said no thanks, no film in the camera, just four empty frames for Piper and West... no more film available to get a image of a man admittedly up on Six about the time... Good thing Jack didnt see any action in the Military as he had to ask Piper what the noise was. Piper, somehow, knows better 5 floors lower what the noise was. Yep all sounds perfectly logical doesn't it Paul. Cheers, Ed

Beautiful sight when laid out. Seemed the cops were DESPERATE to tie Oswald to Beckley. The frame and its players, the particulars and details. I still want to see Saturdays search warrant, wherever they hid it. Cheers, Ed

Mrs. PAINE - He did give her, I think, $10, just prior, or some time close to the time of the assassination, because she planned to buy some shoes.Mr. JENNER - Shoes for herself, or her children?Mrs. PAINE - For herself, flat s. But when he gave that to her I am not certain. I do know that we definitely planned to go out on Friday afternoon, the 22d of November, to buy those shoes. We did not go.Mr. JENNER - That is you girls planned to do that?Mrs. PAINE - She and I did; yes. Where would they go shopping isnt asked. Cheers, Ed

Fay listens in on the extension? Well how often did they listen in on roomers calls. I doubt this was a one off. Jim several Beckley witnesses had to have the caveat 'spanish or russian' spoken during the calls. I do not see these confused for one another in Texas,.. so more likely the calls were in spanish and they were for Mr Herbert Leon Lee. They added Russian as that is what the, police, and television news told them he spoke. Hall was told to not talk about Mr Lee "..her mother told the children to not talk about any of this with anyone." and "Hall turned her 1026 N. Beckley Ave. home into a museum, which by appointment can be toured. She kept the effort low key and sought help to partner with the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza, which did not happen. Hall said it was because she wouldn’t back the Warren Commission conclusions. “There’s too many questions,” Was it really about money as she's doing a fine job propping up the Commission's Ommissions and fairytales. She knew Mr Lee. not Oswald. Why does she claim the register is destroyed or pages are torn out... how does she know??? Seems a good thing to keep prying eyes away. Financial marketing strategy. Cheers, Ed

Question, what is between the Texas Theater and Beckley where that bus stops. Would it be a SHOE STORE Andrej? It is. And of course why would Lee peer into the lobby, ... Do you have a wife and kids Andrej?

Here is Will Fritz's statement: "I talked to Oswald about his leaving the building, and he told me he left by bus and rode to a stop near home and walked on to his house. At the time of Oswald's arrest he had a bus transfer in his pocket. He admitted this was given to him by the bus driver when he rode the bus after leaving the building." Here is Hosty and Bookouts statement: "Oswald stated he then went home by bus and changed his clothes and went to a move." Bookhout solo report: "Following his departure from the Texas School Book Depository, he boarded a city bus to his residence and obtained transfer upon departure from the bus. He stated that officers at the time of arresting him took his transfer out of his pocket." And finally Thomas Kelley, Secret Service: "In response to questions put by Captain Fritz, Oswald said that immediately after having left the building where he worked, he went by bus to the theater where he was arrested; that when he got on the bus he secured a transfer and thereafter transferred to other buses to get to his destination." Seems a lot of wiggle room in Oswald's statements or poetic license was used in some cases. I dealt conclusively with the transfer in the "Dallas Transit Transfer" essay. Lee went to the theater from work on a bus, and the Beckley bus gets closer than the Marsalis by a half mile. It was directly behind the Marsalis bus and stopped at the corner of Elm and Houston as a regular stop. Why does Andrej" find this scenario improbable and logically inconsistent " Though its what was reported in interrogations.... Cheers, Ed

Appeal to authority Andrej. That they accepted without question that Oswald lived under an alias is on them. It's not a shining moment for any of them. Their lack of questioning faults them not me Andrej

Why does Not Living at an address need alternatives. That is a false equivalency. Being framed for a cop killing isnt enough? This is a tactic. ...you go first. How many people had to lie to convict 20 + innocent people? A rough estimate will do. TIA. Cheers, Ed PS, RE-READ THE ESSAY I explicitly replied to this And now a second time special for Andrej

How many innocent people had their convictions overturned in Dallas Steven? 20+ Those real humans had alibis. They were with family and friends or far from the scene of the crime. Didn't matter did it Steve? Well till DNA kept but not shared by the DA's office proved their innocence. Do or did these things happen in a vacuum. To Steve they must. Are you saying that in each case the detectives and Will Fritz were not framing them? How did they obtain the conviction without proper police work? Are you in a historical fantasy world? When's the Jamboree Steve??? Is that where you are going to joke about the travesties in Dallas as a one man stage performance... I'd buy a ticket and a tomato. Cheers, Ed PS Got that Holster - Revolver match yet

That's not what the ladies say. They said hanging laundry There was no view to the back yard. So again its Hugh's anonymous entities claiming that, and no real evidence that was how he found Neely. It is another question Aynesworth will need to answer. Do any photos exist of any view From Neely backyard to Elsbeth... why not? Cheers, Ed

Aye aye aye, Steve where is the gun that killed Tippit? Isnt more likely the killer ditched it. Is the revolver in question thee murder weapon? How did you reach that conclusion? Cheers, Ed Oh btw does it fit the holster supposedly found at Beckley? TIA

Yes revolvers were planted by cops Are you disputing know fact again? Or is Oswald immune from these devices as they framed him for a cop killing? Which excuse does Roe pick this time.... Ed

David, You do know 214 Neely and 602/4 Elsbeth are on different blocks? Reason I ask is that I just spoke with Jane the owner of Elsbeth and she never recalls seeing Neely from any apartment at Elsbeth... She seemed to recall being able to see "NEELY STREET" up at the intersection but houses, trees, fences, and bushes were in the way of seeing through all that to the Neely back yard...mid block. Interestingly Jane did point out that Marina hung out clothes to dry at Elsbeth. Hmmm Was this subterfuge by Hugh Aynesworth? Did he get the Neely addy elsewhere or did two lil old ladies have better than 20/20 vision with their xray glasses on? Who were these human telescopes? They seemed to know Marina and her movements yet remain anonymous... nah. Hugh Aynesworth was blowing smoke up our backsides and calling us a chimney. Cheers, Ed

Thanks for highlighting this Bart. Let me address it this way. The drop piece is a historical fact. Not a modern invention. The Gun In late 1977, after the grand jury hear­ings, Mary Sinderson asked Lupe Salinas to close out the Randy Webster case. The investigation seemed to be going no­where, and the U.S. attorney’s office was involved with other time-consuming mat­ters. But Salinas asked Sinderson and U.S. Attorney Tony Canales for more time. He told Canales he wanted to trace the gun that had been found next to Randy Webster’s body. Canales gave him the go-ahead, but urged him to do it quickly. When the Houston Police Department investigated the death of Randy Webster, its information about the origin of the gun came from a report by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Fire­arms, which said the pistol had been manufactured by a company in Connect­icut and sold to Oshman’s, a wholesaler in Houston. Oshman’s, the report said, had shipped the gun to a Globe discount store in Southwest Houston, and from there it had gone, in 1964, to another Globe store on West 34th Street in Northwest Houston. In 1974, when Salinas moved back to Houston from San Antonio, he had lived three blocks from the Northwest Houston Globe store, and he remem­bered that the store had opened about the time he had moved into the neighbor­hood. In other words, the federal agency had reported that the gun was shipped to a store ten years before that store existed. That meant the report was wrong. Salinas asked Robert Ontiveros, a young man doing a criminal justice in­ternship in the U.S. attorney’s office, to go down to the Southwest Houston Globe store and check its gun-sale records. Ontiveros asked to see the records for 1964, and he was given a big, dusty box of index cards. He went through them, checking serial numbers against the serial number found on the gun next to Randy Webster’s body. After he had been through more than eight hundred, he finally found a match. The gun had been bought from Globe in 1964 by a man named Roy Hooven. There was no Roy Hooven listed in the Houston telephone book, but there was a William R. Hooven, Jr. Salinas called the number, and a Mrs. Hooven answered. She told him William R. Hooven, Jr., was the son of Roy Hooven, and that Roy Hooven had committed suicide in 1964 with a gun he had bought at a Globe discount store in Southwest Houston. “What happened to the gun?” Salinas asked Mrs. Hooven. She replied that the police department had taken it when the family said they didn’t want it. Salinas and Ontiveros were closing in. They went to police headquarters to find the suicide report on Roy Hooven and spent days searching through old records in two warehouses before they found it. The report said that a .22-caliber pistol with the same serial number and descrip­tion as the one found next to Randy Webster had been tagged and placed in the police property room in 1964, after Roy Hooven’s death. Salinas remembers feeling excited, ner­vous, and queasy as he looked at the report. The gun that Randy Webster had allegedly pointed at Officer Mays was the property of the Houston Police Depart­ment. https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-throwdown/ Cheers, Ed

Yet we do find new data when we review it and are more aware. Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter was disputed for several reasons early on, timing etc. but the huge pieces we have thanks to Bart and Malcolm are invaluable and only a fresh eye caught this recently. The wait was worth defending the position. There is evidence that we can verify, rather than loose rubble we are told is solid footings at present. Its messy but necessary if we really are holding the evidence accountable All good work takes some skill and dedication. The available mass of data was ignored before by all the academics. They did not care to scrutinize it as they saw it as a logical construct. Lee stops gets an oversized jacket and a murder weapon then goes looking to kill a cop...? The study of the case makes it illogical. Perhaps too many have been overtly concerned with 'where to' rather than deciding merits of that presented by the witnesses as they themselves show us "there's no there there." Its tough to find data where nothing happened. Right Larry? That Beckley Bus hole is wide, deep and zero data Larry, I have been looking/ looked. Any cries before about its absence of evidence by anyone? Nah, I feel I'm a one man justice league on the bogus bus bandwagon. He did have the possibility of meeting Ruth and Marina for a shoe shopping expedition they were planning to do that afternoon. (postponed due to Kennedy death) Recall Lee did ask Marina to buy shoes for Junie. The shoe store sighting has always said to me Lee checked the store but since his wife wasn't there he went to the theater to waste time... or simply saw what kids shoes they had in the display...? Then timing and stories told by Brewer are two fold and make little sense. I covered his actions in the Texas Theater Theatrics thread. Why Oakcliff? Cheap rents and plenty of apartments/rooms/rentals... just look at the Davis sisters. They each had an apartment in the same house on Tenth. Though its not "close" to work at TSBD. It would be "close" to Trinity Flooring. Walking distance, and in Oak Cliff, that's close. TSBD was a couple miles, not a leisurely walk at 7:30am across the Trinity River bridge, so bus was the means,,, if he lived at Beckley. Sans driver for DAILY trips is very odd. Why no interest in that driver. Its beyond odd. That's Gladys claim since she searched rooms for liquor. She and Earlene said there was no commie literature, no dishonorable discharge paperwork, no russian works, ... nothing With Lee Harvey Oswald on it. Yet we are shown a floor full of it at DPD (on Nov 23rd not Nov 22!!) The Tippit murder pistol was a dropped item,... Ex. police carry drop pieces that are untraceable. Were the police framing Oswald for murder. Yes. There is no other answer to seek here. History proves this is the MO I say he went to Beckley did not like what he saw and went to Bledsoe's. For what its worth she lacks credibility. Her "books" are a laugh, not worth a plug nickle, yet Porter sells this calendar page. Again the evidence submitted after that calendar page is brought to the bureaus attention is telling... the fbi take a photocopy ... a copy of the notation To Oswald and From Oswald. What did Bledsoe give Oswald... mmmmm a KEY? What did she get back from Lee..... hmmmmm a KEY! What was they key found on Oswald? I've covered in excruciating detail why there is no evidence for Oswald or anyone firing any shots from the TSBD. So no escape necessary. See No Shots Fired From The TSDB I've covered the Public Transportation Getaway I've covered the Beckley Bunch I've covered the Texas Theater Theatrics. The jacket has been done, in Oswalds Technicolor Jacket. Between Tenth and Patton and the TT is a long walk when your wanted, Jefferson blvd. would be certain death. The alley's? No way in hell Oswald goes through alley way to TT. Cops had the block. Then the next down to Brewer's store, not past it, no cop cars tear up Jefferson as they had the area contained and yet they commission just want you Larry to accept a unfathomable trip to the theater. I'd ask for my money back if I had paid for the Warren Report. Its not properly labeled as fiction. Appreciate your works Larry and questions. (And my Signed copy of SWHT) Cheers, Ed

Agreed. Lets stick to the evidence or its lack and examine the record. Truths are self evident and do not need pomp and circumstance, nor pride nor populism. I shared the stories (plural) and then facts as presented. The disinformation and gaping holes in the narrative by Warren Commission and the Dallas Police department. Im not in safe waters fishing for compliment. The essay is a shift in how things are viewed. The reasonable doubt exists exponentially about the official account, this is including Beckley. I expect pushback from posting a thesis so profound. So be it. There is nothing to refute its presence. The Beckley tales go in the same bin as the other wrongful attributions to Oswald that could not withstand scrutiny. Rifle ranges, gun stores, auto dealerships, or mobbed up restaurants with every shadowy suspect in the Kennedy case converging ... or clubs where all these people meet and everyone is either going to kill Castro or Kennedy ... its quite ridiculous. ANNA LEWIS comes to mind https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://cyberspaceandtime.com/NyN37x3OfHs.video%2Brelated&ved=2ahUKEwipjtS47vDnAhVzHDQIHYKCCo04MhCjtAEwAXoECAAQBA&usg=AOvVaw3HVgk114y6uvOb0AUUmRyK Gee how'd that turn out? Not well. Not well at all. In my humble opinion many in the limelight are equally dubious and cashing in on their snake oil. Pat Hall is behind a register alright.... one taking cash, not one with evidence in it. I look at where we were and what has been learned along the way. Heck from the Lancer forums ideas to Bart's paradigm shift with rokc solid support has been about 20 years. (Hosty notes etc.) Give this thesis time. Seems a bums rush to not look at Beckley from a devoted few. As expected. Egos and attitudes will be apparent. I said it before things need a starting point. This was the giant leap. Carry on. Thanks for listening. Ed

How many people had to lie to make your story possible? Andrej, The appropriate question is how many were mistaken, and proved to be such? All. How many testimonies have been shown to be utter fabrications yet met with no such "risk ending in jail and loss any self-respect for the rest of their lives?" None of the lawyers faced any risk either, though they were called on suborning perjury. I point you to VINCENT SALANDRIA. The commission lawyers did face disrespect by many. This was a white wash and the testimonies were full of falsehoods and half truths. Again the Niagara of Naivety is flowing on the EdForum, bless your heart. Many went along with the largest pressure applied, to lie for the commission lawyers. I suggest you re-examine the testimonies from those at Beckley. Ed