Kathleen Collins

Who is this man? This has driven me crazy for years. Is he Lee Oswald? His eyes are brown (Remember Marina lifting his eyelid -- to see eye color?) and he looks like a total jerk. He looks like the boy who was loud and obnoxious to his mother in John Armstrong's book. Look at his teeth? Is this the real Oswald?

Yours Truly,

Kathy C

http://whitehousetapes.net/clip/lyndon-johnson-jacqueline-kennedy-lbj-and-jacqueline-kennedy

How could Jackie Kennedy talk to LBJ in a flirtatious way if she believed LBJ killed her husband 10 days later? I'd like Robert Morrow to answer too.

Kathy C

oover went down so would LBJ.

I doubt his mother knew Lee was working on a cancer poison to kill Castro with parts of the CIA and their domestic contacs like the Head of the Cancer Society. The War System is on the rocks but it ain’t over yet.

http://www.facebook.com/jim.glover.5815

I had a cousin through marriage who was a big deal with the American Cancer Society. That was in the 60's. He then went on to being the head of the Blue Army in Pennsylvania -- people who worship the Virgin Mary. That was in the '70's. Mean anything to someone? I don't want to say his name and he's dead. An Irish guy with a big family and was hard of hearing.

Kathy C

Experienced Member,

I'm on the floor, laughing my ass off. But anyway if that isn't Phil Ochs then it's his

double. And Hunter Thompson was not with his family. He had his son in the house

and was talking to his wife on the phone, when she heard a weird sound. I think he was

shot at that time. There was something about Bohemian Grove that he was tied to.

Rumors, rumors, say he filmed the sequence or was going to write about it -- He

believed he watched them put a live person on fire, a child -- the burning of conscience,

so they're free to kill anybody without a thought till the next year.

I must admit, putting that picture of BigFoot had me in hysterics. I didn't expect it.

Kathy C

it.

Two pictures exist with Phil Ochs standing in front of the Dal-Tex building garage during the

assassination. It is the real Phil Ochs because I looked at other photos of him.

Phil Ochs, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Hunter Thompson and John Lennon. None of these

left wing radicals died from natural causes.

Kathy C

Dear Fellows,

Before they had Street View, Earth would bring you a certain distance to what you wanted

to see. What you saw was weird shapes and people. It was all imagination. You'd see

rooftops, but also strange things. Something weird would turn out to be a bush. I bring

this up because I think you are very mistaken. I think you are wasting your time with finding

"artifacts." I believe it's a composite picture of Lee and Harvey; and that's all it is.

Kathy C

Douglas, I never knew her kids have gotten so old. I saw his picture on your link.

Where do they get so much hair from? It surprised me that he went to Yale because

of Skull and Bones. Thanks for this link. I wonder how her daughters look.

Kathy C

I know most of us dislike Vincent Bugliosi and his huge book about Kennedy. But I was

surprised when I saw him on youtube talking about his new book. He is writing or getting

nearer to publishing an indictment of former President George W. Bush. Bugliosi states

that GWB is a murderer. That he got us into Iraq through lying and trying to scare us with

weapons of mass destruction. The book will tell the reasons why Bush is a "murderer."

He says when he's finished, the law is going to come after Bush.

This is a breath of fresh air. Somebody is coming after Bush. This can work in 5 ways. 1.

It will only be a book. 2. Bugliosi will die. 3. Someone will murder George W. Bush so he

can't spill his guts. 4. Bush dies in prison like those he put to death himself in Texas'

prisons. 5. Bush will escape via Redbird Airport and follow Lee Oswald into history.

I can't wait to get a copy. Maybe Vincent Bugliosi is redeeming himself?

Kathy C

In the days when I was reading about Jack Ruby, I was sure he made a certain statement: that a new form of government was going to take over America. I could never find the source for that. But I found it in "Hit List" by Belzer and Wayne:

"Well, you won't see me again. I tell you that a whole new form of government is going to take over the country; and I know I won't live live to see you another time."

He said this to the Warren Commission. Was he talking about the New World Order? Where the oil barons and other people, extremely rich, and all right wing and they reign over the entire globe.

I recently saw pictures of George HW Bush. He's on his way out. I hope he's proud of himself.

Taking over Boston, bombs, gunfire, a dead child and one with an amputated leg. The ricin letters. An explosion at the John F. Kennedy Library, the shooting at the movie theater awhile ago. Are we getting ready to become a police state? Or begin another war?

Yours Truly,

Kathy C

I received "Hit List" in the mail today. I was delighted. They truly believe that my theory of

Karyn Kupcinet possible, even probable. She died as a result of Ruby killing Oswald. It was

a crime meant to shock Chicago. The authors ruled out suicide. She had flecks of blood on

her face and pillow -- this indicates that damage was done to her throat. Andrew Prine had

nothing to do with her death and apparently David Lange had nothing to do with her death.

One thing I never mentioned: the killer put her face down. This was especially cruel. Due to

decompositon her face was swollen and discolored, I am told, almost beyond recognition.

Why did the killer do that? Maybe to further hurt Irv Kuppcinet if he had to identify her.

Fortunately, lawyer Sidney Korshak identified her.

Thank you, Richard Belzer and David Wayne.

Another thing I never mentioned. I went to a psychic about this death. She said a man was

there because of addiction. He was tall and dark. He spoke 2 languages -- English and

Italian -- Mob? Or English and Spanish -- Cuban Exile? I couldn';t figure out addiction, but

those 100 pills, filled 2 days before her death, were the only things taken. I didn't know what

drugs she was on. As time went on I learned she spent her last year (with Andrew Prine) on

methamphetamine. That's addiction.

Yours Truly,

Kathy C

I hope Richard Belzer is all right. He is a cancer survivor and he does look sick.

Kathy C

Karyn Kupcinet's death -- according to Cyril Wecht he couldn't call it. Here's why. The man who did

her authopsy had a fetish for strangled women. They later exhumed 2 women he did and

declared them as having died from natural causes. Because of this we don't know how she died.

The place looked like it was a bit ransacked. There was a fur coat hanging in the closet, which

was open and no one took it. She had jewelry. It was all there. But one thing was missing: 2

days earlier she filled a prescription for Desoxyn. She had other pills, but the bottle of 100 pills,

methamphetamine, were gone. The bottle was there in the bathroom cabinet, but the pills

were gone. She spoke earlier that evening about suicide. I think if you swallow 100 pills, you'd

puke some of them up. Unless they were tiny pills. There was only one partial cup of coffee on

the other side of the living room. If she took these pills, did she do so in the kitchen, where she

could down them with water? When they found her, she was face down on the couch. She

was nude and her bathrobe was thrown over a chair. The TV was on, but low. Possibly using

the TV for light. What channel was it turned to, since her guests finished watching the Danny Kaye

Show and then possibly some news. They were supposed to lock the door behind them. About the

time of the murder, downstairs neighbor, David Lange (deceased), came home plastered. 12:30 am.

Thanksgiving. She wasn't found till 3 nights later. This girl had no luck. When she underwent

a nose job, she was awake during the whole operation, but had medicine in her, paralyzing her.

The anestheisiologist forgot to give her the quick-acting sedative that would have knocked her out.

I'm waiting for the book to arrive. "Hit List" Belzer and Wayne

Kathy C

This is the first time I ever heard this. Maurice Templesman was CIA and assigned to Jackie Kennedy sometime after Onassis' death? I thought she had a true companion in him. She forgot the catechism and lived for years with a Jewish married man. I was happy for her and he was just a spy.

I ordered "Hit List" from Amazon yesterday. Amazon has a feature where you sometimes can look inside the book. I saw my name mentioned re Karyn Kupcinet. I have been following this girl's murder -- or whatever it was -- for 34 years. I was never comfortable with the timing of her death so close to the Assassination. When I saw her name in the index of Jim Marrs' book, I felt stunned. Another stunned emotion came when I found out Irv Kupcinet called mobster Paul Dorfman at a hotel in Palm Springs after Ruby shot Oswald. Also in Palm Springs that weekend was Karyn Kupcinet. And I always wondered if that set the wheels turning in Dorfman's head: murder her as a shock to Chicago and a distraction for the Chicago Mob. Then Sinatra Jr was kidnapped. Who helped more to get Kennedy elected in 1960 than Frank Sinatra? Another distraction. I don't believe in Lyndon LaRouche, but then the biggest distraction in history happened -- the Beatles came over to the US and it was a new world. I am glad that my theory is being taken seriously. It might not be correct, but it holds water.

Kathy C

I've heard of Operation Mockingbird. I believe it's acquiring media assets and having them tell something untrue. It's what was behind Geraldo Rivera getting a job at FOX and leaving CNBC. At the end of one show, with some man sitting next to him, appropos of nothing on the show, Rivera shook his head as if amazed at people's stupidity. "Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy from behind. There was no conspiracy." The next week he had "bad tidings." He was leaving JonBenet Ramsey for awhile but promised to follow the case. When people were protesting about 9-11 being an inside job, he said, "Get a life." Is he so stupid he doesn't know that it was an inside job? He sold his soul to the devil. But he screwed up bigtime when he was showing how are soldiers were going to go into a maneuver. He had a stick and was drawing it on the sand like a map. He got in trouble and they brought him home.

Kathy C

I asked this on another thread and finally decided to come out with it. I couldn't find anything when I searched here. So here's my question: Did the "other" film have a soundtrack? I'm talking about the film that HL Hunt had made of the Assassination.

Kathy C

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My pleasure Lindsay...

It is my contention that the "original" - 0183, and 0184, were identical copies and that by 9am Saturday the "original" film was no longer involved in the process. This new "original" was indeed at 18.3fps and created from both 0183/0184 in the possession of the CIA/SS that night.

Zavada and the world only ever got to see the alteration. The meeting with McCone et al on Sat morn at the WH may have included more detail of the assassiantion from these films.

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Regarding this crown jewel, CIA450 and their puzzlement over how LIFE could know when the first & second shot were....

Only z312/313 is universally accepted as the LAST SHOT. Everything hinges on that being correct... yet the speed legend related to the frames and locations on Elm do not work.

What we see is a smooth running limo down Elm after what many saw as a turn that almost hit people on the north curb of Elm...

Mr. TRULY. That is right.

And the President's car following close behind came along at an average speed of 10 or 15 miles an hour. It wasn't that much, because they were getting ready to turn. And the driver of the Presidential car swung out too far to the right, and he came almost within an inch of running into this little abutment here, between Elm and the Parkway. And he slowed down perceptibly and pulled back to the left to get over into the middle lane of the parkway. Not being familiar with the street, he came too far out this way when he made his turn.

Mr. BELIN. He came too far to the north before he made his curve, and as he curved--as he made his left turn from Houston onto the street leading to the expressway, he almost hit this north curb?

Mr. TRULY. That is right. Just before he got to it, he had to almost stop, to pull over to the left.

If he had maintained his speed, he would probably have hit this little section here.

If we accept that z313 is the last shot...

using the math that took me quite a while to grasp shows why z133 is when we see the limo appear, what is so special about 161-166, why z224 is not mentioned as showing a shot,

why Altgens tells us he was 15 feet from JFK at the time of the shot (z345, not z313), why Hudson on the steps tells us a shot was fired while the limo was right in front of him, and why/how these frames and time measurements work with the only other films that can be used to time sync Zapruder.

As you continue to explore... the frame ratios, the distances and speeds all play a crucial part of the charade.

Mr. LIEBELER - And it proceeded then down Elm Street toward the triple underpass; is that correct?

Mr. ZAPRUDER - That's correct. I started shooting--when the motorcade started coming in, I believe I started and wanted to get it coming in from Houston Street.

Sitzman: Yes. Well, he stood up there, and he asked me to come up and stand behind him, 'cause when he takes the pictures looking through the telescopic lens, he might get dizzy, and he wanted me to stand behind him, so in case he got dizzy I could hold onto him. so I got up behind him, and we saw the motorcade turn the corner at Main onto Houston. He hadn't started taking the pictures there then, and we watched them as they came down Houston; and just as the motorcycles that were leading the parade came ... started ... came around the corner and started down the hill, he started taking the pictures then.

He never stopped filming Lindsay... and the attached shows that the restart frame z133 does not have the telltale start-up signatures... it just STARTS

Other than Towner, there is no film or photo of the limo rounding Elm/Houston. Her film speed was also arbitrary, AND we have the 6 frame splice in the midst of the turn.

Nix and Muchmore pick up later on Elm. and if you search, we can also see that it is physically impossible for a man (Hill) to get from one vehicle to the next while both are supposedly traveling in excess of 8mph. He needs to jump down, run and catch the limo while both vehicles are moving... yet if you see what we've posted... he does so in amazingly few steps...

The limo had slowed to a crawl of less than 2mph... maybe not stopped - although many say it did - and the testimony of Kellerman is revealing as to when Hill actually gets to the limo...

Hill is on the limo when the car accelerated... the limo accelerated at the time the flurry of shots arrived.... the acceleration happens between the 2nd and 3rd shots (what happened to the flurry?).

Was Hill already on the vechicle when z313, the "third" shot occurred? only if it happened further down the street, after the limo stopped and Hill had a chance to climb on....

Mr. SPECTER. At that time you looked back and saw Special Agent Hill across the trunk of the car, had your automobile accelerated by that time?

Mr. KELLERMAN. Tremendously so; yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, to the best of your ability to recollect, exactly when did your automobile first accelerate?

Mr. KELLERMAN. Our car accelerated immediately on the time-at the time--this flurry of shots came into it.

Mr. SPECTER. Would you say the acceleration--

Mr. KELLERMAN. Between the second and third shot

My pleasure Lindsay...

It is my contention that the "original" - 0183, and 0184, were identical copies and that by 9am Saturday the "original" film was no longer involved in the process. This new "original" was indeed at 18.3fps and created from both 0183/0184 in the possession of the CIA/SS that night.

Zavada and the world only ever got to see the alteration. The meeting with McCone et al on Sat morn at the WH may have included more detail of the assassiantion from these films.

----

Regarding this crown jewel, CIA450 and their puzzlement over how LIFE could know when the first & second shot were....

Only z312/313 is universally accepted as the LAST SHOT. Everything hinges on that being correct... yet the speed legend related to the frames and locations on Elm do not work.

What we see is a smooth running limo down Elm after what many saw as a turn that almost hit people on the north curb of Elm...

Mr. TRULY. That is right.

And the President's car following close behind came along at an average speed of 10 or 15 miles an hour. It wasn't that much, because they were getting ready to turn. And the driver of the Presidential car swung out too far to the right, and he came almost within an inch of running into this little abutment here, between Elm and the Parkway. And he slowed down perceptibly and pulled back to the left to get over into the middle lane of the parkway. Not being familiar with the street, he came too far out this way when he made his turn.

Mr. BELIN. He came too far to the north before he made his curve, and as he curved--as he made his left turn from Houston onto the street leading to the expressway, he almost hit this north curb?

Mr. TRULY. That is right. Just before he got to it, he had to almost stop, to pull over to the left.

If he had maintained his speed, he would probably have hit this little section here.

If we accept that z313 is the last shot...

using the math that took me quite a while to grasp shows why z133 is when we see the limo appear, what is so special about 161-166, why z224 is not mentioned as showing a shot,

why Altgens tells us he was 15 feet from JFK at the time of the shot (z345, not z313), why Hudson on the steps tells us a shot was fired while the limo was right in front of him, and why/how these frames and time measurements work with the only other films that can be used to time sync Zapruder.

As you continue to explore... the frame ratios, the distances and speeds all play a crucial part of the charade.

Mr. LIEBELER - And it proceeded then down Elm Street toward the triple underpass; is that correct?

Mr. ZAPRUDER - That's correct. I started shooting--when the motorcade started coming in, I believe I started and wanted to get it coming in from Houston Street.

Sitzman: Yes. Well, he stood up there, and he asked me to come up and stand behind him, 'cause when he takes the pictures looking through the telescopic lens, he might get dizzy, and he wanted me to stand behind him, so in case he got dizzy I could hold onto him. so I got up behind him, and we saw the motorcade turn the corner at Main onto Houston. He hadn't started taking the pictures there then, and we watched them as they came down Houston; and just as the motorcycles that were leading the parade came ... started ... came around the corner and started down the hill, he started taking the pictures then.

He never stopped filming Lindsay... and the attached shows that the restart frame z133 does not have the telltale start-up signatures... it just STARTS

Other than Towner, there is no film or photo of the limo rounding Elm/Houston. Her film speed was also arbitrary, AND we have the 6 frame splice in the midst of the turn.

Nix and Muchmore pick up later on Elm. and if you search, we can also see that it is physically impossible for a man (Hill) to get from one vehicle to the next while both are supposedly traveling in excess of 8mph. He needs to jump down, run and catch the limo while both vehicles are moving... yet if you see what we've posted... he does so in amazingly few steps...

The limo had slowed to a crawl of less than 2mph... maybe not stopped - although many say it did - and the testimony of Kellerman is revealing as to when Hill actually gets to the limo...

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I tried very hard to search for a thread about the "Other" film. As the Zap film and others are mentioned in this post, I decided to ask my question here.

Question: In all the years I've been active regarding Kennedy, I never heard this question ever asked or answered: Did the Other film, HL Hunt's film, have a soundtrack?

Kathy C

I couldn't help but notice that Reagan was President-Elect at the time of the murder of John Lennon. Was this Reagan's culpability or was it Vice President Bush's nastiness? Reagan was shot himself. Bush trying to gain power as the President?

Kathy C

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Nixon In the Jungle

Tuesday, July 19th, 2011

Richard M. Nixon 37th President of the United States

It is one of the most mysterious incidents in the Vietnam War, and I can’t get it out of my mind.

It was the spring of 1964, and the former Vice President of the United States, who was also the next President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, was standing in a jungle clearing northwest of Saigon, negotiating with a man who, to all appearances, was a Vietcong lieutenant. Wearing battle fatigues “with no identification,” Nixon was flanked by military bodyguards whose mission was so secret that, when they returned to Saigon, their clothing was burned. [“Secret Nixon Vietnam Trip Reported,” New York Times, Feb. 17, 1985.]

At the time, Nixon had been out of public office (though not out of politics) for more than three years. After losing the Presidential election in 1960 and the California gubernatorial race in 1962, he’d gone into private practice as an attorney with the Mudge, Rose law firm, subsiding into what amounted to an enforced retirement from the world’s stage. It’s all the more surprising, then, to find this political castoff on a secret mission in the Orient – only a few months after the Kennedy and Diem assassinations.

Not that Nixon was a stranger to intrigue. On the contrary, his political career might easily be graphed as a parabola of Cold War conspiracies. As a Red-baiting congressman in the forties, he’d made the most of a lovely “photo opportunity” by uncovering stolen State Department secrets – in a Maryland pumpkin field. In the fifties, while Vice President, he’d run a stable of spooks – actually run them – in an off-the-books operation to destroy the Greek shipping tycoon, Aristotle Onassis. [Jim Hougan, Spooks (New York: Morrow, 1978), pp. 286-306. Onassis was targeted because of an agreement he’d reached with the Saudi government, monopolizing the export of oil from Saudi Arabia] In that operation, Nixon acted as a case officer to Robert Maheu (himself a linkman between the CIA and the Mafia) [Hougan, Spooks, pp. 286-300, and Donald L. Bartlett and James B. Steele, Empire (New York: Norton, 1979), pp. 282-285.] and a former Washington Post reporter named John Gerrity. Gerrity later recalled that “Nixon more or less invented the Mission Impossible speech, and he gave it to us right there, in the White House. You know the spiel, the one that begins, ‘Your assignment, gentlemen, should you choose to accept it. . . .” [Hougan’s interview with Gerrity.] Years afterward, when the Eisenhower Administration was drawing to a close, then Vice President Nixon served as the de facto focal point officer for the Administration’s plans to overthrow Fidel Castro. In that role, he was in regular contact with the CIA and with some of the darker precincts of the Pentagon.

It’s fair to say, then, that Richard M. Nixon knew what he was doing when it came to covert operations – but what was he doing in the jungle in 1964?

The story surfaced, briefly, some 20 years later, when the New York Times reported that Nixon, “while on a private trip to Vietnam in 1964, met secretly with the Vietcong and ransomed five American prisoners of war for bars of gold. : . .” [“Secret Nixon Vietnam Trip Reported,” p. 3.] In reporting this, the Times relied upon a report published in the catalog of a Massachusetts autograph dealer. The dealer was selling a handwritten note that Nixon had given to one of his bodyguards. The note read, “To Hollis Kimmons with appreciation for his protection for my helicopter ride in Vietnam, from Richard Nixon.”

The value of the note was increased by the circumstances that generated it, circumstances that Sergeant Kimmons described in the catalog:

Base Ops sign at Tan Son Nhut Air Base, 1967.

They proceeded to Phuoc Binh, a village northwest of Saigon, where they met with Father Wa, a go-between that arranged the exchange of the gold for U. S. prisoners. The following day, Nixon and his party departed for An Loc, a village south of Phuoc Binh, where in a clearing somewhere in this area Nixon met with a Vietcong lieutenant who established a price for the return of five U.S. prisoners.

A location for the exchange was arranged and the crew departed for Saigon. Later the same day, the crew, this time without Nixon because of the extreme danger, departed for Phumi Kriek, a village across the border in Cambodia. A box loaded with gold bars so heavy it took three men to lift it on the helicopter accompanied the crew.

At the exchange point, five U.S. servicemen were rustled out of the jungle accompanied by several armed soldiers. The box of gold was unloaded and checked by the Vietcong lieutenant and the exchange was made without incident. The crew and rescued prisoners immediately departed for Saigon, and they were sent to the hospital upon their arrival.

Sergeant Kimmons’s mission was secret, and there were no written orders for his duty during this period. His clothes were destroyed as well as the film in his camera, and he signed an agreement not to reveal this incident for 20 years. Nixon’s note to him was hurriedly written at the conclusion of his assignment to guard Nixon on the following day. [The Times article quotes from a catalog printed by Templeton, Massachusetts, autograph dealer Paul C. Richards.]

That Nixon traveled to Vietnam in 1964 is a matter of fact. He departed the United States in late March on a round-the-world trip that took him, first, to Beirut, and then to Karachi, Calcutta, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, and Saigon. There, he dined with the American Ambassador, Henry Cabot Lodge, who had been his running mate in the 1960 Presidential race. In the days that followed, Nixon helicoptered into the countryside, [New York Times, Apr. 3, 1964] and then continued on to Hong Kong, Manila, Taiwan, and Tokyo before returning home. [RN: The Memoirs of Richard M. Nixon (New York, Touchstone, 1990), pp. 256-258, and article sin the following editions of the New York Times, covering his trip: March 23-28, 1964; March 30-31, 1964; April 2-10, 1964; and April 16, 1964.] Nixon later wrote that the purpose of the trip was to meet with Mudge, Rose clients and foreign leaders. Contemporary reports make it obvious, however, that the real purpose of the trip was to drum up international support for what was about to become America’s massive intervention in Vietnam. [Ibid.]

There is nothing in the Times’ account to suggest that the exchange of gold on April 3 was in any way relevant to the impending escalation of the war, but the possibility is an intriguing one. The Times’ article is anything but conclusive. On the contrary, it simply parrots the cover story that Sergeant Kimmons had been given, while at the same time neglecting to identify the mission’s middleman, the so-called “Father Wa.”

According to the Pentagon, which kept meticulous records of American prisoners of war, the POW release that Sergeant Kimmons described could not have occurred. The few Americans in captivity in 1964 were all accounted for in 1965—and most of them were still in cages. (Even so, we needn’t rely on the Pentagon to give the lie to Nixon’s cover story. Whatever else may be said about Richard Nixon, he was a consummate politician and, if he’d risked his life to rescue American prisoners of war, we’d have heard about it – if not in 1964, then most definitely in 1968.) As for the identity of “Father Wa,” Sergeant Kimmons (and the Times) fell victim to phonetics. Far more than an anonymous interpreter, the Rev. Nguyen Loc Hoa was a legendary figure in Vietnam. A bespectacled Catholic priest whose black cassock was usually cinched with a web ammo belt and a pair of holstered .45s, he was the symbol of militant anti-Communism in the south. [Cecil Currey, Edward Lansdale: The Unquiet American (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1988), p.220. ] Twenty years before, he’d fought a successful guerrilla war against the Japanese in China. Soon afterward, and as a colonel in the Chinese Nationalist Army, he’d battled Mao Tse Tung’s Communist insurgency. Driven from China, he and two thousand followers lived for a while in Cambodia before moving to a mangrove swamp in the Mekong Delta—where they set up a village and went to war against the Vietcong.

Father Hoa’s story was told in an article that appeared in The Saturday Evening Post, a few months after President Kennedy took office. Entitled “The Report the President Wanted Published,” the piece was published under peculiar circumstances. Authored by “An American Officer” whose identity could not be made public “for professional reasons,” [An American Officer, “The Report the President Wanted Published,” Saturday Evening Post, May 20, 1961, p. 31.] the article was in fact written by Gen. Edward Lansdale, an Air Force-CIA officer whose counterinsurgency theories and practice had inspired at least two books (The Ugly American and The Quiet American). [Currey, Edward Lansdale, p. 225.] According to. Lansdale, President Kennedy personally telephoned him to ask that he arrange for publication of what, until then, had been a secret report.

The article, and a follow-up piece that came out a year later, were blatant propaganda. [Don Schanche, “Father Hoa’s Little War,” Saturday Evening Post, Feb. 17, 1962. ] In sentimentalizing Father Hoa’s ferocious anti-Communism while demonizing the Vietcong, the articles did much to prepare the American public for the larger war to come.

Whatever President Kennedy’s motives may have been in pushing General Lansdale to publish his secret report, Nixon’s visit to the jungle is even more mysterious. Why should a former Vice President of the United States, accompanied by a legendary guerrilla fighter with excellent ties to the CIA, dress up in battle fatigues and adopt a cover story to facilitate a journey into the Vietnamese bush? The answer, obviously, is to make a very secret deal. But if, as we’ve discovered, Nixon was engaged in something other than ransoming prisoners, what was he buying with so much gold-and who were those guys that came out of the jungle near Phumi Kriek?

Recently declassified reports of the top-secret Military Assistance Command/Studies and Observations Group (MACSOG) raise the possibility that Nixon’s mission may have had to do with OPLAN 34-A. This was a covert operation to undermine the North Vietnamese by inserting “specially trained” Vietnamese commandos behind enemy lines. [“Once Commandos for U.S., Vietnamese Are Now Barred,” New York Times, Apr. 14, 1995, p.1.] The operation was run by the CIA from 1961 to 1963, and by the Pentagon from 1964 to 1967. We’re told that the activity was paid for with money the CIA had received from the U.S. Navy and then laundered offshore. [Ibid.]

Since Nixon’s mission had nothing to do with prisoners of war, it seems likely indeed that the Americans who dashed from the jungle at Phumi Kriek were CIA operatives or paramilitaries. This likelihood, coupled with the large amount of untraceable gold, suggests a mission of surpassing sensitivity – which, in turn, suggests OPLAN 34-A.

But what makes the incident at Phumi Kriek seem important, however, is not just the secrecy that surrounded it, or even the large amount of gold that was involved. It is, instead, the presence of Richard Nixon. Why him? What could such an outre politician have possibly brought to a covert operation in Vietnam?

The answer, of course, is nothing – except his face. Which is to say, the unmistakable face of American political authority. With Richard Milhouse Nixon present at the negotiations, and with the fabled Father Hoa as his interpreter, the supposed “Vietcong lieutenant” (himself, perhaps, a MACSOG operative) would never have questioned the legitimacy of the mission on which he was being sent. He would have known that, no matter how improbable, the mission was sanctioned by the highest echelons of the American government.

But what can that mission have been?

With Nixon, Hoa, and Kimmons dead, one can only speculate. But it’s worth noting that four months after the meeting at Phumi Kriek, OPLAN 34-A commando raids were carried out against the North Vietnamese in the Gulf of Tonkin. Two days later, an American destroyer, the Maddox, was attacked in the Gulf by North Vietnamese patrol boats – which led, almost instantly, to American air raids on North Vietnam and the passage of the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, escalating America’s involvement in the war.

In his recent mea culpa, [Robert S. McNamara, In Retrospect: The Tragedy and Lessons of Vietnam (New York: Times Books, 1995), p. 133.] former Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara writes that the attack on the Maddox was “so irrational” that “some believed the 34-A operations had played a role in triggering North Vietnam’s actions.” Though McNamara does not say so, his implication is clear: OPLAN 34-A operatives deliberately provoked the North Vietnamese and, in so doing, transformed “a small, out-of-the-way conflict into a full-bore war.” [“Once Commandos for the U.S. . . . ,” p. 1.]

If that is what happened, it’s understandable that OPLAN 34-A operations should be so secret that their very existence was omitted from the Pentagon Papers. [This, according to Sedwick Tourison, a Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analyst, who called OPLAN 34-A operations “the secret” of the Vietnam War (“Once Commandos for the U.S….,” p. 1). ] What’s less clear is whether or not Richard M. Nixon was directly involved in the secret funding of operations that may well have jump-started the Vietnam War.

When the Select Committee on Intelligence Activities and Select Committee on Assassinations began investigating Kennedy's death in the 1970s the deaths of potential witnesses increased dramatically. This included several criminals with links to the secret Executive Action plan to kill foreign political leaders. Those who died violent deaths during this period included Lucien Sarti (1972), Thomas Davis (1973), Dave Yarras (1974), Sam Giancana (1975), Jimmy Hoffa (1975), Johnny Roselli (1976), George De Mohrenschildt (1977), Charlie Nicoletti (1977) and Carlos Prio (1977).

Excellent stuff, John.

You can also add David Morales to that list of people who passed away in that 1970's period. He didn't die violently but from a heart attack which was quite convenient for those who may have been implicated in JFK's assassination.

Cheers,

James

There are 2 pictures alleged to be Phil Ochs, the folk singer, in front of the Dal-Tex building. It looks just like him. He was traveling around with a radical group and allegedly was told to appear there. In 1975 he committed suicide by hanging. People who knew him well said he was very depressed. But it's in that 70's timeline. What are the odds that the following people would die unnatural deaths: Abbie Hoffman - phenobarbital OD; Jerry Rubin - Jaywalking; Phil Ochs - hanging; Hunter S. Thompson, bullet to the head; his son in the house hearing nothing; John Lennon - gunshot (Reagan President Elect);. There are a few others but I can't bring them to mind right now.

Kathy C

I'm to be acknowledged for all the years of work I did, as best as I could, with the help of others, regarding Karyn Kupcinet. We'd still be thinking she made a phonecall from Oxnard to Chicago about the Assassination. Anyway, they let me pick out pictures of her. The publication date is April 1, 2013. I hope they slip me a free copy.

Kathy C

On youtube there is a piece of film footage from that day showing a Ruby lookalike and LHO. Oswald climbs over the steps. I am sure it is him. The Ruby character keeps looking towards Oswald; and LHO only got down from the steps when he saw this Ruby character. I don't think the man is Ruby. But I do believe it is LHO. (emphasis added by T. Graves)

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Kathy C

Kathy,

I don't think so. That young guy looks more like a well-groomed high school student to me. To me his hairstyle/hairline looks different, and I can see that he was wearing a traditional, collared white shirt with his unbuttoned sweater or jacket. (Is there any evidence that Oswald wore a white, button up, collared shirt to work that day?) As for the "Jack Ruby?" dude, unfortunately he looks too portly. And, not that it matters, but the Parkland photo Joseph posted shows "Jack Ruby" wearing a light-colored fedora whereas in the TSBD clip he's wearing a dark one...

But the "detached" head of a man (in the shadows, way back in the far left hand corner on top of the steps) during the latter part of the clip sure looks interesting...

Tommy

edited and bumped

I have a photo of a short Oswald that looks like the "Oswald" climbing over the steps. Here he is with the Ziger sisters in Russia.

I'm trying to post this photo and I keep getting "post too short."

Kathy C

On youtube there is a piece of film footage from that day showing a Ruby lookalike and LHO. Oswald climbs over the steps. I am sure it is him. The Ruby character keeps looking towards Oswald; and LHO only got down from the steps when he saw this Ruby character. I don't think the man is Ruby. But I do believe it is LHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=3-CpuEJ8mCk

If it's Ruby in disguise, maybe -- hat, dark suit jacket, more corpulent than Ruby; then that has a lot of implications here.

Kathy C

I used to watch Geraldo's night time show Rivera Live religiously. One night, appropos to nothing, he ended his show very strangely. There was a man sitting next to him. Who was he? All of a sudden Geraldo looked at the camera and shook his head. Then he said, "Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy from behind. There was no conspiracy". The show ended and I was in shock. What a desperate son of a you know what. The following week he made an announcment (paraphrased): "I have bad tidings. I'm a reporter. I have to go where the action is. We're at war and I will be leaving this show." It turned out that he took a job with Fox as Foreign Coorespondant. Did he have to lie about the Kennedy Assassination to get in? I wonder if he ever saw the "other film." I don't know how he can stand himself.

Geraldo has made an announcement this past week. He wants to run as REPUBLICAN Senator of New Jersey. Can you believe him? If I was in NJ, where I came from originally, I would protest and work for the Democratic party, like I did this past year. I cannot believe what a creep he is. To people concerned about 9-11 he told them, "Get a Life."

He's a nasty piece of work.

Kathy C

I will never forget seeing that show when it was broadcast.

I was in a bar in my hometown in Erie Pa. Everybody was just stunned at what they saw. And everyone came to the conclusion that either Oswald didn't do it or he didn't do it alone. It was that electric.

Jerry Policoff was backstage that night since he had escorted Groden there. He told me that they never expected ABC to let the show proceed and neither did Geraldo.

BTW, a young Andy Purdy was a law student at VIrginia at the time. HIs roommate was Rep. Tom Downing's son. After they saw the show they asked Groden for a copy. THey showed it to Tom Downing and that is how he sponsored his bill to open the HSCA.

I wish the show had been better produced and scripted, but I am glad it got on. It shows just how powerful the film is.

Really too bad what happened to the HSCA. But the combination of the national showing of the film, the outpouring of outrage, all the volunteers who wanted to be on the HSCA--they got 12,000 resumes--plus the choice of Sprague and Tanenbaum, all that alerted the other side they had to go into attack mode to fend off a possible revolution. So they managed a lobbying campaign to get rid of Sprague and Tanenbaum.

The best comment I heard on how they vilified Sprague was from the late Joe Rauh, a veteran liberal lobbyist who knew Sprague from Pennsylvania politics. He didn't really like him since they were not political soul mates but he respected his abilities as a lawyer.

Rauh told Policoff, "You know Jerry, I never thought the Kennedy case was a conspiracy. But if they can do that to Dick Sprague, it must have been."

Before the move to Fox, Chris Matthews had Jesse Ventura on his show. Ventura discussed some of the JFK Conspiracy info. After the show, Chris and Geraldo had a discussion about things Ventura had mentioned...just before Geraldo started his show that evening. They both snickered and rediculed things that Ventura had mentioned. That angered me and I have not really watched either one's show since then.

Dixie