Kathleen Collins

After many years of wanting to visit Dallas, I finally have the chance.

What itinerary would you recommend for a two-day stay?

Sixth Floor Museum, Dealey Plaza... any other locations?

This one is easy: take plenty of pictures and/or video. Nothing there in Dealey Plaza and places close by is insignificant. And post them on flickr.com or similar and maybe on this site.

Kathy C

A couple of weeks ago I stumbled across this little piece of information that I found interesting.

Shortly after Bill Clinton came into office, he asked his old friend Webster Hubbell a favor. In Hubbell's book "Friends in high places", Webb Hubbell describes the episode and what Clinton asked of him:

"Webb, he said, If I put you over at Justice I want you to find the answer to two questions for me. One, who killed JFK?..."

Hubbell, who was shortly thereafter appointed Associate Attorney General, continues:

"He was dead serious."

I was not aware that Bill Clinton had this view on the JFK-assassination. In this instance nothing came out of it. Does anyone know if Clinton did anything else along those same lines, regarding JFK? I've looked into this but have so far not found much of substance at all.

(Oh, the other question was about UFO's.)

Thanks,

Glenn V.

This story has been around for years -- and I believe it. What I was told was that Clinton asked his joint chiefs of staff, "Two things. I want to know about the Kennedy Assassination and UFOs." To which they replied, "You don't have high enough clearance."

And then I think of the Vince Foster thing, which I believe was murder. I bet after that the Clintons "wised up."

Kathy C

Citing unreleased FBI documents, Hersh writes that Bobby joined his twin brother, Billy, in breaking into the Los Angeles apartment of Judith Exner, a woman who later acknowledged having an affair with Kennedy. An FBI agent observed the break-in on Aug. 7, 1962, but made no attempt to arrest the Hale brothers, according to Hersh.

In the book, Hersh speculates that the break-in was part of a successful attempt by the Hales' father, I.B., then chief of security at General Dynamics, to blackmail Kennedy into giving the company a major defense contract.

Notice the date of the break in of Judith Exner. August 7, 1962. Two days earlier Marilyn Monroe died. This just can't be a coincidence. Were they going to kill Judith Exner too?

And an FBI agent was a witness to the break in, but took no action. What was he doing there?

Kathy C

You ought to get Jerry Dealey or Ken Holmes to give you a tour of all the JFK assassination related places. Of course, the real place to go would be the old office suites of H.L. Hunt and Clint Murchison.

Absolutely go to the Sixth Floor Museum, take the tour, laugh at the implied lone nutter propaganda, then go down onto the Grassy Knoll and say hello to Robert Groden.

If someone could post the contact info for the JFK tours it would be nice. Or you could email Deborah Conway at JFKLancer and she will tell you.

The tours usually take you to Oswald's various homes, past Jack Ruby's apartment, to the scene of the Tippit slaying, to the Dallas police station where Oswald was killed.

You might want to eat at Campisi's: http://campisis.us/

One of the most valuable things you can do is to get someone experience to walk you around Dealey Plaza and learn all the details there: such as where Ed Lansdale was photographed, were James Tague was almost him, where everyone was standing, where "Dark Complected Man" was, etc.

I just found the link for the tours: http://dealey.org/tours00.htm

Both Jerry Dealy and Ken Holmes have taken me on tours and they were excellent.

I suggest staying at the Hotel Lawrence because it is very close to Dealey Plaza:

http://www.hotellawrencedallas.com/

Isn't there a restaurant now at the back of the TSBD?

Kathy C

Has Jack Worthington been able to have his DNA tested against the man he grew up with and thought was his father? If he could be ruled out, that might help his quest.

He could dig up his dad's grave and do it.

They could take Caroline Kennedy's DNA and could find a match. Jerry Lewis supposedly had a daughter. He would give her some money, stay with her, talk with her. But then the girl fell on hard times. So Gary Lewis stepped in and gave them his DNA. The woman's DNA matched with Gary's, so it could be gotten from another relative besides the father.

Kathy C

Fidel Castro is still alive at age 86, but his power has probably passed to someone else in the Cuban government.

I disagree. Have people seen him? I believe he is dead, morte.

Kathy C

What connection do you all think he truly had the Assassination?

Also they way he was killed someone to an axe to his head and shot him in the heart.

By killing him this way what could it signify?

I mean just not killing him but the way it was done

I agree with you. Why did they have to do it in broad daylight and film it? Why endanger Jackie? Why did she have to see it? Rich, sick bastards.

Kathy C

If you have never been to the Sixth Floor Museum, you are missing out. It is important to understand the "politically correct" propaganda that is being disseminated there, then you will be better equiped to counter it.

When I first went up to the so-called "sniper's nest" area, it struck me why would a "lone nut" shoot JFK on Houston street as it turns left onto Elm? It is a no-brainer shot and someone could make the hit with a handgun, perhaps 35 yards away.

You won't be able to find nuggets like that unless you "take the tour" of the Sixth Floor Museum. There is no need to list all the laughable things I found presented in the exhibits - but, again, when you do you can point it to people and humiliate and embarrass the Sixth Floor Museum.

I encourage folks to take the tour with the intent of dissecting the propaganda.

Robert, I said on another thread that maybe the driver deliberately made the turn slow so someone could shoot President Kennedy right there. I believe the films not showing the turn were altered. Why? Because the powers that be are hiding something. I believe Kennedy was shot at during that turn.

Are emails safe? Supposedly, there is a building in England where they monitor the Internet. Every time someone uses the word "assassination" it's another "hit." -- just an example.

Kathy C

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Joe Backes

What you should do is write a scathing attack in the guise of a "Review." In other words say it was boring, Castro's dead, disinformation, you wouldn't waste money on the book, etc. The reviews are usually half-way down the page of the book.

Kathy C

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A very young Bill Clinton, incredibly enough, was the one who drove Hale Boggs to the airport when his plane took off and vanished into oblivion" Don, first I've heard that Bill Clinton drove Boggs to the airport. Would have thought that would have made it into the excellent Roger Morris book on the Clintons. What is your source on that?

Not all deaths are murders. Boggs was flying into a very bad section. They never found the plane and they never found any survivors. It was all snow, mountains and valIeys. I know his daughter, Cokie Roberts, is a CIA media asset. She said her father never doubted the Warren Commission, but something tells me he did.

Kathy C

George Bush the first picked Dan Quayle as his running mate. Maybe he knew nobody would threaten him with Quayle 2nd in line in leading the country.

You've got it. Why else would someone want Dan Quayle for Vice President? This country would explode. He told an astonished Ronald Reagan at the airport that his choice was Dan Quayle. I don't know if Reagan got it.

Kathy C

Bill Clinton was a big JFK conspiracy guy when he was gov. and if you all remember when he was running in 92, he said first thing he'd do when he got in was find out who really killed JFK.. Can't remember the guys name but one of his buddies from Arkansas (heavy set guy) was asked to look into JFK but was stonewalled all the way through.

Did you really buy that line of baloney? Clinton was an "insider" since practically day one

of his career when he made friends with Win Rockefeller. There was no way that he was

going to rock the boat and they kept him busy in his second term just so he wouldn't

get any ideas. I disagree with your assertion that every president knows/knew about

JFK but I'm sure most of them can guess. In descending order, I believe these presidents

knew/know the most:

Richard Nixon

George H. W. Bush

Dwight Eisenhower

Gerald Ford

Lyndon Johnson

George W. Bush

Bill Clinton

Jimmy Carter

Barack Obama

Ronald Reagan

I think Clinton knew who was the boss when Vince Foster was killed. When he got in, he wanted to know about Kennedy and UFOs. They told him he didn't have high enough clearance. So who's the boss -- the Military? Then when Mrs. Clinton was running, I saw Bill on a stage, campaigning for her and telling the audience, "And if you believe in conspiracy theories, we don't want you."

Someone told me that there were 200 political murders during Clinton's Presidency.

Kathy C

Don't forget the old Irish Saint Malachy. He supposedly named all the Popes of the future. The last pope was named Benedict.

Kathy C

I see Raygun's statement as being in the finest tradition of the Alton Oschner/INCA - funded recording 'Portrait in Red', a very transparent effort to frame the patsy Oswald. Any idea when Ronnie's recording was made?

I think it comes in 5 CDs. I believe he recorded this in the 1960's or maybe when he first met Nancy and there on.

Kathy C

Yet another thread that has nothing to do with JFK, let alone his assassination.

I'm glad I didn't post it.

Kathy C

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P_k2qGadFU

DSL - in one of the Andrews photos it seems there is a vehicle and a number of people standing just to the left front of AF-1 - have you attached any meaning to this?

I enlarged it and it looks like either 1) it was a vehicle that could fit a coffin or 2) it's a limo, probably filled with Secret Service as on Elm St. Was the body in the coffin when the Secret Service and Parkland Hospital guards were pushing it back and forth in front of Jackie and curse words and guns came out?

Kathy C

I thoroughly searched the results of an inquiry using the Board's search engine.. To no avail.

It's about the turn onto Elm. Greer almost accidentally entered the parking lot. He really had to swing left. Was this a mere occurrence signifying nothing?

None of the films show the Elm Street turn. Could it have been SA Greer pretending he didn't know the street? Could it be a way of stalling so a shot could get in?

Kathy C

This item appears to be sourced from Wim D. and/or Scott K.

Opinions solicited for this:

http://rechtiskrom.w...-frank-sturgis/

The Lee Harvey Oswald figure is too tall to be Harvey, shot by Ruby. This may be Lee Oswald who looked a lot like Harvey. But sometimes it looks like Robert Oswald.

“As a lad of 21 in 1967 my interests were fast cars and faster women. My sole political statement was in 1964. I heard the Beatles singing about no god, no country and the brotherhood of man. I removed the radio from my car and threw it into the trash. I missed the rock-and-roll of my youth...but it was a small price to pay for a clear mind.

He is obviously talking about John Lennon's statement -- the Beatles more popular than Christ. And "The Ballad of John and Yoko," which was actually a Beatle's song. And Lennon's song "Imagine." That last song in my opinion is about Communism or the new world order. Castro (when he was alive) had a John Lennon bronze statue of Lennon sitting on a bronze bench, waiting for people to talk to him. It's in a little "park" in Cuba. Now the Cubans can hear Beatle music. The years covered here are 1966 - 1971, not 1964. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kathy C

I have been asked to start a new thread on JFK movies from Youtube?

I wish someone at a TV network or Life magazine or the military would put The Other Film on youtube. Someone must have access to it. What are they waiting for? Just release it. Most intelligent people believe there was a conspiracy, but there is nothing we can do about something that happened 49 years ago. Show us the film. Did H.L. Hunt have it?

Kathy C

After the big success of "Killing Lincoln," Bill O'Reilly is back on the case of a presidential assassination. The Fox News host and best-selling author is collaborating with Martin Dugard on "Killing Kennedy: The End of Camelot." Henry Holt and Company announced Thursday the book will come out this fall. O'Reilly says in a statement that "Killing Kennedy" will "answer many questions" about the death of JFK, who was murdered on Nov. 22, 1963.

http://www.washingto...pTHR_story.html

It might be worth sending Bill O'Reilly what you have on the assassination.

And/or Martin Dugard.

http://www.martindugard.com/contact/

1) I highly recommend that JFK researchers send both Bill O'Reilly and Martin Dugard their very best information, books recommendations and web links on the JFK assassination. We don't know what the man will write, so let's give him (them) all we have. Personally, I am not optimistic about O'Reilly, like Geraldo, he sold out a long time ago. But you never know and it is worth giving a try.

2) I have contacted Dugard through his web page. Bill O'Reilly's email address is Oreilly@foxnews.com .

I would send both men all of your best insights on the JFK assassination. And, collectively, we could make a big difference in how the subjected is approachedy by O'Reilly & Dugard.

I sent Dugard an email a little while ago. I hope he looks into it.

Kathy C

According to the leading American journalist Jeff Toobin, who contributes to the documentary, the Lewinsky affair did not ultimately harm Clinton's image as much as predicted.

"The legacy of this scandal favours Clinton more than his adversaries," he told the Observer. "More Americans think that it was a trivial waste of time than think that he got away with something unforgivable." Toobin puts this down in part to "a long-established pattern that the longer a president is out of office the more kindly the public starts to feel about them", but also to Clinton's resilience and to his "extraordinary political electricity".

"In comparison, too, both with [George] Bush, with his foreign misadventures, and with [barack] Obama's economic problems, the boom years of Clinton's presidency start to look a lot better," added Toobin

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Kathy, I think you are right. I need a genealogy of the Murchison family.

Question for you: did Wikipedia get it wrong, too? http://en.wikipedia...._Murchison,_Sr.

I know Wikipedia has mangled the JFK assassination, so this would be no surprise.

Gore Vidal says everything on wikipedia is wrong. I take his word for it.

Kathy C

Whoever has read the C. David Heyman book, does he include a picture of Bobby Kennedy, wife and kids, going to church on Aug.5, 1962 in Gilroy, CA, which is pretty far away from Santa Monica. I've been trying to find this picture for a long time.

Kathy C

Ok, Kathy. Can you explain to me what you are getting at, please?

I believe Bobby Kennedy was at her house that day. Somehow she died and he flew back to Gilroy, CA. I think she was in grief because the President wouldn't speak to her. In the local newspaper was a photo taken of Robert Kennedy and family going to church Sunday morning, Aug.5, 1962, at 9:30 am, just hours after it was announced that Marilyn Monroe was dead.

I saw this picture a decade or more ago. Robert Kennedy wore his emotions on his face. I never saw such pain and grief on anybody's face like the one worn on Bobby Kennedy's face when his brother died. How easy was it for him to hide his emotions? The woman his brother was trying to avoid is dead and he was there in a white convertible. I think he'd feel sick to his stomach. That's what makes photographs important, even if they're misleading.

Kathy C