Kathleen Collins

The first was Tom Wilson - with 30 years experience using imaging and

photonics techniques in the stell industry. He has now applied this

techniques - along with computer enhancement - to examine again the

Zapruder film. What was revealed - using high resolution pixel imaging

and Fourier analysis - was nothing short of amazing. In the head shot

frame - for example - one could actually see, with Wilson's techniques-

the image of the bullet, inside JFK's skull and its *track* moving from

the FRONT to the REAR of the skull. Undeniable high level, high quality

evidence that the shot did indeed come from the front - as we have been

maintaining all along. Showing the detailed iamgery, Wilson himself

found his eyes welling with tears. One could sense his painful awareness

of the lies and distortions we've been fed all these years, co-mingling

with his frustration that up to now none of 'officialdom' has taken his

work seriously or at least tried to replicate it.

After the Brazil demo, Tom Wilson was seen again - now examining the

autopsy photos with his techniques and comparing them with the

photonic/pixel densities in the head of JFK as disclosed in the pristine

Mary Moorman photo (aimed toward the GK, JFK's head visible from the

rear).

His imaging analysis showed where genuine human tissue was located in

the autopsy film- by comparing it with pixel densities in the

pre-autopsy condition (as exposed from the Moorman film). What was

revealed was nothing less than startling: massive sections of 'fake'

material covering nearly the entire rear of JFK's head (Wilson referred

to it was Mortician's plaster). This same material was also used in the

front of the head, to cover the entrance wound there.

Wilson's fine work, and detailed analysis, showed also what many of us

have been saying all along - that the autopsy photos are indeed fakes.

i think A DEEPER DARKER TRUTH is the 6th part in the men WKK...http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/inde...Killed_Kennedy

b

Bernice, From what I've read the head was filled with plaster. On the Zapruder film, you don't see blood, etc, flying towards the back. That film has been altered, as most of us know. There is a black smudge over the back of Kennedy's head. And in the other film it's very gory, I'm told, and material goes backwards. The alterationists removed those frames. We're all used to seeing the Zapruder film at slow speed. When you watch it at its normal pace, it happens so fast! Yet I read they were only going 5 mph. Did you ever try to drive at 5 mph? It's like you're not moving at all. Greer stopped the limo because I read here that if Kennedy wasn't mortally wounded, the car was going to be bombed on the other side of the Triple Underpass? How true that is I don't know. I wish I knew who posted that.

The mortician also put some brown-colored gunk in the temple area to match his hair. When Jackie Kennedy saw him, she said, "That's not him" and walked away. Bobby Kennedy was with a friend and advisor. Bobby said, "It doesn't even look like him." His friend said, "It's not him. It's a wax dummy. Close the coffin."

Also, I saw pictures of when they exhumed President Kennedy's coffin in the middle of the night in 1967, with the National Guard all around; and in 1 picture Ted Kennedy was standing by the open grave. They were going to re-bury Kennedy in a better site in the cemetery. Jackie Kennedy was brought in after it was done. There was a big shot Catholic there.

Anyway, next to Ted on the ground was a round stainless steel container. I believe it contained what was left of Kennedy's brain. I can't find that picture now, though I've seen the others taken that night. I wonder, Bernice, if you have that picture? I had saved it to an old harddrive that had viruses some years ago. I wonder if Robin Ungar has it.

Kathy C

Hitchens knows full well that few personalities and politicians write EVERY word in their books, and that quite a lot of them actually write very little of their books. He knows full well, for that matter, that many autobiographies are written by ghost-writers, based on interviews with the "author." He has to know, for that matter, that Presidents such as Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush were only tangentially involved in the writing of their presidential memoirs.

I can't picture George W. Bush writing one declarative sentence.

Kathy C

Please answer 2 questions. 1. Why was Tosh kicked out of this forum?

2. Yesterday I read in a post that if the Grassy Knoll shooters didn't kill Kennedy, the limo was going to be bombed after it's through the triple underpass. I wish I knew where I read this. And how true is it?

Kathy C

Tom, thank you for sharing that. It's amazing that you got most of that from the Internet. I want to ask -- are you an American, a Britisher or an Australian?

So Irv knew a lot but never reported these things. And when LHO was killed, there were a number of people in Chicago who knew Jack Ruby. I don't know why he got in touch with Paul Dorfman. Maybe he tried other individuals and couldn't find them that day.

Someone in your reporting said Jack Ruby was the least violent man he knew. Was he kidding? And Dorfman said, "Sparky wouldn't do that. He's a nebbish kind of guy." Ruby was a violent, excitable man. Jada, the dancer, called him a "maniac." He worked as a bouncer in his own club. When he was a youth he ran around with gangs and loved getting into fights. Oddly, Irv Kupcinet did the same thing in Chicago. I have to research whether the 2 men, the same age, in Chicago, ever met as kids. Because Irv, like Ruby, liked to fight.

Kupcinet was a violent young man. Quick to anger. When he received a football scholarship to Northwestern (where he met Essee) he got thrown out because he punched the coach's brother. North Dakota College accepted him for his athletic prowess and he graduated from there with an interest in Journalism. He then became a football star but had to give up the sport when he injured his shoulder in his first and only year as a professional football player. But, according to him, he didn't mind. He wanted to become a newspaper man.

So Irv escaped the fate of Ruby and learned to control his temper over the years. They have some Kup's Show programs on the Museum of Broadcasting in Chicago. Some time ago I watched some. I hope they're still available. I don't remember the exact link to the website.

I want to thank you, Tom, for your wealth of information on Chicago.

Kathy C

Kathy,

Do you really believe that the Karyn and Frank Jr. incidents were enacted to push Ruby from the headlines? This sort of tactic is a standard practice IMHO, but it's hard for me to clearly see how this would really be worthwhile. Were so many Americans really hoodwinked by these crimes? Was providing a small diversion from Ruby really enough to submerge the whole case from public view?

Of course, such tactics work very easily in the present day; our attention spans are historically the shortest they've ever been, I'd wager. However, I don't know enough about 1963 to support your theory. If this is your theory, then my guess is that there would have been even more stories generated during that time. Do you know of any?

Tom

The only stories generated about her were in newspapers. She was found nude, sheets were half pulled off her bed revealing 2 twin mattresses put together, closets open, clothes on the floor, expensive fur and other clothing not touched. A pair of red high heels near the closet. The coroner called it manual strangulation.

3 years later the coroner who worked on Karyn, Harold Kade, made headlines. He was fired because he had a fetish regarding strangled women. They exhumed 2 women he had worked on and neither one was strangled. He said about Karyn in '63 that she had a fractured hyoid bone. His other employees said he was often drunk, and had kidded once, saying, "At least I didn't break the hyoid bone on that one." This had to reach Irv Kupcinet. I can't believe he didn't know this.

In March of 1964 movie magazines had picked up on the story. There were a couple of layouts of her with actor Andrew Prine. Some people believe she committed suicide over him. She'd had an abortion in July '63. Mark Goddard, who discovered her body, paid for it.

Prine was the police's main suspect. But the Kupcinets believed it was downstairs neighbor, David Lange. He worked as a gofer and was the younger brother of actress Hope Lange. The police couldn't connect him to the crime. He was a heavy drinker, who drove home at 12:30 am and told the police that when questioned. That was the estimated time of death. He said he went right to bed when he got home.

Her bathroom was described as neat and orderly. In the medicine cabinet there were several prescription pill bottles. One, filled 2 days before she died, was for Desoxyn, methamphetamine. All 100 tablets were missing. Could someone have killed her for the pills, as nothing else was taken? And made the apartment look like it had been ransacked?

Writer James Ellroy wrote about the case in "Crime Wave" and in a December issue of GQ. Another great source is "The Lost World of Kup," in Chicago Magazine shortly after Kup died.

Personally, I have a dilemma. It could very well be that Lange killed her. But it could also be a hit from the Chicago mob -- they didn't want anything to do with Kennedy. Or it was suicide. Not even accidental suicide. Did she swallow the 100 missing pills? I'm sure that would have raced her heart and killed her fast. I don't know if they're big pills or little pills. 100 is a lot to swallow. She was also taking thyroid extract, which was outlawed.

But female suicides are rarely found naked.

She spoke to Prine at midnight and was dead in a half hour.

Kathy C

Tom, this is something I came across. It's a post I made years ago on Websleuths.com. I had forgotten about this, but I'd like you to see it. Irv was a Zionist. What is this saying about him?

Kathy C

"Kathy C12-29-2004, 12:51 AMDear Joellegirl,

I looked up that book today re Kupcinet and it returned a weird story of these German children who were molested and killed. It said Irv Kupcinet raised a lot of money for them in the '50's. And then it said maybe it was hush money from the Jewish Sector.

I'll keep plugging away on it. Thanks a lot.

Kathy C"

I have an interesting quote about the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr. Penn Jones said Jr was kidnapped to shock America. And this is how I feel about Karyn Kupcinet. Her death shocked Chicago. She was so well-known there. She appeared in theater, doing The Chalk Garden, as well as other great plays. Her father always mentioned her in his column. This was a big shock, serving to get Ruby out of the headlines.

Kathy C

There is no evidence that an identifiable fingerprint which could not be identified was found on any of the boxes.

At least I haven't seen any.

I stand corrected. There were actually TWO unidentified fingerprints found on box A. They are shown in CE 656.

http://www.history-m...Vol17_0164b.htm

Mr. MANDELLA. "Center impression No. 2 finger Oswald from Box A photo--latent on left unidentified Photo Nos. 25 and 27 identical--Negative with Oswald unidentified."

Mr. EISENBERG. "Negative with Oswald," are you referring now to two of the three photographs--two of the three prints appearing on the photograph?

Mr. MANDELLA. That is right, two prints, exactly, the one in the center, of course I am not in reference to the one in the center, which is his. The two on the right and left are unidentified.

( 4 H 52 )

"Negative with Oswald" tells me that the unidentified prints were legible enough for comparison. "Unidentified" tells me that no match could be found.

Wasn't it much later that someone took an "unidentified" fingerprint and matched it to Wallace?

Kathy C

Irv Kupcinet had to know much more than he ever disclosed.:

...........

Deep Politics and the Death of JFK‎ - Page 179

by Peter Dale Scott - History - 1996

"....Blakey chose to link Rosselli to Trafficante, by citing his "management role" in

the Havana Sans Souci casino. More pertinent was probably the fact that the Sans Scouci was operated, at this time, by Dave Yaras and Lenny Patrick, the suspected killers of James Ragen (9 AH 948). Also at this time, Rosselli's most constant companion was "Major" Charkes "Babe" Baron, a suspected murderer who was also a brigadier-general in the Illinois National Guard. Baron was a protege of Chicago Democratic machine leader Jake Arvey, as were Yaras and Patrick; and an even closer friend of Patrick Hoy, the Henry Crown employee at General Dynamics who arranged for Sidney Korshak to work for Hilton Hotels. Hoy was also the general manager of the Sherman Hotel in Chicago, a hangout frequented ny Ruby and Jones in 1947 (22 WH 366; 24 WH 518 Chicago crime commission, report, 1963)"

http://www.google.co...l=&oq=&gs_rfai=

"Back in 1958, when Queen Elizabeth II dropped in to the Pump Room and its ... Then they shipped the 'throne' off to hotelier Pat Hoy's farm,...

http://www.google.co...nG=Search+Books

Kup's Chicago‎ - Page 53

by Irv Kupcinet - Chicago (Ill.) - 1962 - 286 pages

"But I'm a hotelman," Hoy protested. "I know nothing about mixing concrete." "Maybe not," said Crown. "But without being a cook you've done an excellent job of running the Pump Room." Yielding to Crown's persuasion, Hoy began a new career at the age of.....

http://www.nwitimes....89adb0007e.html

...I feel honored that I had the chance to become friends with Kupcinet late in his career, after I joined the Chicago Headline Club. And when I'd visit him at the apartment home he shared in downtown Chicago with his beloved wife Essie, who died in 2001, he loved to point out he had the original Pump Room Booth One in his home...

....Warren Commission, Volume XXII: CE 1289 - FBI report dated June 5 ...

- Dec 25

File

of Ivan Bunny which appears frequently in Irv Kupcinet's column... JACK L .

RUBY. IIe bought the Clover Bar next to the Sherman Hotel on Clark.

Street after selling the Realto .... group of Jewish people which

included Ruby, Colitz and their ...

http://www.history-m...H22_CE_1289.pdf

Warren Commission, Volume XXII: CE 1236 - FBI report of interview ...

Union Local 20467,. AFL, is quoted in IRV KUPCINET's. column

"Chicago ... COMMISSION EXHIBIT NO. 1235. 2. On November 25, 1963,

mini, 74PR II : ...

http://www.history-m...H22_CE_1236.pdf

Warren Commission, Volume XXII: CE 1199 - FBI report dated ...

- 12/27/08

Commission, IRA COLT= owner of the Clover Bar, and LOUIS. SCHNITZ were friends of RUBY. ... RUBY was at the Clover Bar about five years ago . RUBY at the ...

http://www.history-m...H22_CE_1199.pdf

http://www.acorn.net...ue/arrb_13.html

ARRB 13th Batch

The Federal Register February 20,1996 p. 6346-6347

Reviewed by Joseph Backes

FBI Documents: Open in Full

...Document # 124-10068-10016 Is a two page document from SAC, Denver to Director dated 11/25/63.

DN [ ]-C frequented Clover Bar next door to Sherman Hotel, Chicago, Illinois, 1946 to 1949. He described this bar as a hangout for hoodlum element. At that time it was operated by Ira Colitz who was described as a personal friend of Colonel Jacob Arvey, well known Chicago political figure. Colitz possibly was recently a candidate for Alderman in Chicago and resides in penthouse apartment on Michigan Boulevard.

Informant related Jack Ruby, whom he identified from Newspaper photographs, frequented Clover bar in about 1946 or 47 and was an acquaintance of Ira Colitz and possibly was a former school mate of Colitz on the West Side of Chicago. He does not know nature of Ruby's activities in Chicago.

.......................

http://www.maryferre...sPageId=1451973

NO TITLE pg 2

Found in: FBI - HSCA Subject File: Gus Alex

EXPENSES A D THAT HER JOB AS A CLERK AT THE CONRAD HILTON HOTEL IS ONLY A FRONT TO KEEP HER OCCUPIED DURING THE DAY ALEX ARMED AND DANGEROUS WITH SUICIDAL TENDENCIES .RECEIVED

7:12 AM MN ter If the

RIF#: 124-10209-10118 (02/13/62) FBI#: 92-3182-434

Displaying two of the seven pages.:

Highlights: (Richard Cain is also involved in the "investigation".)

It begins with mobsters talking about the first paragraph of the above article, related to White and the dismissed drunken driving charge.

http://www.maryferre...523&relPageId=2

Sid Korshak is instructed to contact Pat Hoy, General Dynamics V.P. to contact the Hilton and instruct employees there not to cooperate with the investigation.:

http://www.maryferre...523&relPageId=7

Tom, this is something I came across. It's a post I made years ago on Websleuths.com. I had forgotten about this, but I'd like you to see it. Irv was a Zionist. What is this saying about him?

Kathy C

"Kathy C12-29-2004, 12:51 AMDear Joellegirl,

I looked up that book today re Kupcinet and it returned a weird story of these German children who were molested and killed. It said Irv Kupcinet raised a lot of money for them in the '50's. And then it said maybe it was hush money from the Jewish Sector.

I'll keep plugging away on it. Thanks a lot.

Kathy C"

Hitchens refuses to blame Johnson or Vietnam.

I have met Christopher Hitchens, and spent an evening with him. Hitchens is very English and I quickly discovered that he HATES the IRISH people. So his comments on Kennedy are not surprising to me and are very much in character. Lyndon Johnson was English,

like Hitchens, and here Hitchens is coverring up or Johnson

He hates the Irish? Why does he drink like one?

Kathy C

Oswald's stretchband bracelet --- Whaley noticed Oswald's shiny bracelet on his left wrist. He explained to the Warren Commission "I always notice watchbands, unusual watchbands, and identification bracelets like these, because I make them myself ... It was just a common stretchband identification bracelet. A lot of them are made of chain links and not stretchbands (Vol 2 pg 293). Stretchbands are unusual because there is very few of them". A photograph of Oswald taken shortly after his arrival at DPD headquarters shows a bracelet on his left wrist. This bracelet was removed from Oswald's left wrist at DPD headquarters and later photographed. "One I.D. stretch band with 'Lee' inscribed" is listed on the DPD property form (Dallas Archives --- Box 1, folder 8, item 1).

http://www.acorn.net...ssue/facts.html

Summing up the FBI tested a watch Lee was not wearing and failed to test a bracelet he definitely was wearing.

Interesting to note the FBI separated out the bracelet and did not assign it a Q number sequential with the ring and watch...Q87 and Q88

Ed

For the sake of those who believe in John Armstrong's "Harvey and Lee." Supposedly, Oswald, killed by Ruby, liked to be called "Harvey." "Lee" was the other Oswald -- and what became of him?

Kathy C

Authorizing the coup against Diem was one of the worst mistakes JFK made.

The coup was opposed not only by LBJ but also by RFK (talk about strange bed-fellows!).

Pardon me. When did President Kennedy "authorize" the killing of the Diem Brothers? They were Catholic and horrible. Their own people got rid of them.

Love,

Kathy C

Donald O. Norton, the guy Armstrong and Kathleen have been chasing,

I think I over reacted. Still, I always get the feeling you think I'm doing (or did) something reprehensible. We're trying to find Donald O. Norton's relationship to the Assassination. I've given up. Though I heard somewhere that John Armstrong is going to either publish or donate his papers on O. Norton

Thanks everybody.

Love,

Kathy C

great photos robin, many thanks,

imo he, they left this one out..the crowning glory of the w/c sbt..take care.... ...best b

Bernice, look at the man in the hat in the picture you posted. Do you remember on Rich's forum a woman posted several pictures of that man and said it was her father? She felt he was linked to the Assassination. She didn't know whether he was CIA or not. I just wonder how that all turned out. From memory she posted things and then we never heard from her again.

Do you recollect anything? It's just a curious thing, finding out your father is a spy.

Love,

Kathy C

There are two Donald Nortons, Donald O. Norton, the guy Armstrong and Kathleen have been chasing, and Donald P. Norton, the former Air Force homosexual who was recruited to inform on gay servicemen. There is already a thread going on Donald O. Norton, and this one concerns the other one - Donald P. Norton.

"Chasing." That man lived 2 hours away from me at one time. I never got into the car and drove there. His fishing supply store became a tourist trap I'm told. There were 2 Oswalds. One, Harvey, was killed; the other disappeared. I'm looking for Lee Oswald. I understand Donald O. Norton is believed to be him, or he knows something.

I am not actively chasing him or researching him, wise guy.

Kathy C.

It's at least as interesting to examine Mr. King's narrative tactics as to discover his opinions about conspiracy theories. By the way, he thinks it a near-certainty that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

I want to read the book. I was disappointed, though, when I found out King believes LHO did it alone. How can any intelligent person believe this? Is it political for him to say that? Is he afraid he'll be called a conspiracy theorist? With all the plots that have gone on in his books, saying yes about the Kennedy Conspiracy might make him look foolish. Or his publisher wouldn't like it.

Kathy C

I keep saying this but is anyone listening?

I actually called and interviewed the Kiwanis VP who was there at the luncheon with Bush.

Bush was not in Dallas.

Bush was in Tyler.

Bush left Tyler when he heard the news of JFK.

The pics are not of Bush. The timing of the pics does not work for it to be Bush.

http://www.jfklancer..._id=55654&page=

Put this to bed already, Get EDUCATED on this forum.

OK. I don't know what time the man standing in front of TSBD arrived. He looked remarkably like Bush. But I can no longer say that. I purchased a limited Collector's Edition of Jesse Curry's own Assassination File at a book sale. It was a very important book because it had the first publication of that photo of a man resembling Bush.

Kathy C

Scott,

It's time to take a pill and chill, dude. We all sometimes get hot under the collar but you're losing control. Put the keyboard in the fridge for the evening.

Lee,

I call it like I see it, if I don't cover up my father's crap what makes you think I'm going to cover up someone else's? First off, my father was killed for having to much information on Kennedy's assassination and I get a bit touchy when I think someone is trying to hide something, we're not talking about a petty theft crime, were talking about the crime of the century and the "killing" of my father. What more do you want from me? I'm not afraid to die and when I discover those involved you bet your assets the world will know....

If the picture you are talking about is the one of Bush in front of the TSBD, we were mistaken. Here's the picture of the guy from behind right. Not Bush. Hair dark and thicker. Unless you see some similarity. Believe me, no one wanted it to be GHW Bush than me because I know he's implicated.

Kathy C

Again...I wish you the best in that pursuit. It is definitely worthwhile in so many ways. It hopefully will answer a lot of your questions on a personal level. And, if it sheds light on the big picture, we will all benefit from your work.

Greg, why did Scott Kaiser delete his entire thread? I sent him about 6 questions in 2 emails. Has he changed his mind?

Sincerely,

Kathy C

It's my understanding that Ruth Paine talks to people. An interesting thread might be a list of questions for her, specific questions. This would involve preparing carefully for expected answers and being ready to have follow-up questions. You'd want to record it for PSE analysis, etc. I nominate William Kelly as the right guy to come up with the questioning and then see who'd be best to contact her and ask the questions.

The last I heard she was in a nursing home and her state of mind (dementia) in question.

Dawn

I don't know about her dementia, but she did live in St.Petersburg, FL in recent years. I believe she gave a lot of disinf to Patricia McMillan, who wrote more disinfo about Lee Harvey Oswald, "Marina and Lee."

Kathy C

http://www.xat.org/x...neyhistory.html

The story of the all out attempt to insure the USA had a central, privately owned bank, is the cornerstone to understanding

the development of the USA as a country and world power...

As we know, money today is not backed by hard currency....

and the Fed controls policy...

Kennedy was trying to get out from under them...

Cheers

DJ

On another forum regarding 9-11 I was surprised to find a thread from one of the members about President Kennedy and the Federal Reserve. After I read it I knew I was on target. My silver certificate dollar has a green stamp on it. I don't know what my dollar is worth in the real world, but to me it's worth millions and I was so relieved that I had saved one from childhood. But I don't think I have any Kennedy half-dollars left.

On this other site they said Kennedy's Executive Order was never repealed and should be in force today. It was E. Order: 11110.

Love,

Kathy C

I have decided that, after encountering something of a dead end on ascertaining this person's identity to see

if anyone else knows who this person was.

Dallas Officers Seize Weapons, Nazi Material;

December 4, 1967

Dallas county sheriff's deputies confiscated half a dozen rifles,

five pistols, Nazi literature, racist posters and thousands of

rounds of ammunition early Sunday from the home of a

32-year old Dallas man who was being held on

investigation of theft of rifles, pistols and ammunition.

The man who resided in the 600 block of Melba was arrested

on a peace bond filed Saturday night in Justice of the Peace

W. E. Richburg's court.

The bond, filed by the man's common-law wife alleges he was

drunk and beat her.

Making the arrest at 1 a.m. were Tom Barker and A. D. McCurley.

The deputies said they obtained a search warrant from Judge Richburg.

The rifles, ammunition and literature were found

in several closets and a dresser drawer.

Among the ammunition were two sealed containers each holding

600 caliber-30 M-1 cartridges which Sheriff Bill Decker claimed is government

ammunition.

The man denied the ammunition and rifles were stolen.

The Nazi literature included "The Stormtrooper," official news magazine

of the American Nazi Party and racist party stickers, a publication called

"White Power," printed by the National Socialist White People's Party

also was found.

Deputies said the man told them he was a member of the American Nazi party.

Six hand-painted posters also were found at the house. Captions printed on

them were anti-Jewish and anti-Negro with a swastika and skull and crossbones.

The man was alone at his house at the time of his arrest.

His wife, whom Judge Richburg said had lived with the man four years ago,

had gone to a relative's home.

A hearing on the peace bond was scheduled for 10 a.m. Tuesday in Judge

Richburg's court

I'm going to guess Clint Murchison Jr.

When I was in college I took several Sociology courses. I had a teacher in Political Science who said that Kennedy's Assassination didn't change or effect anything. I just kept quiet. Not till I went on these JFK forums years later could I say who his enemies were and what he wanted to do. And that it was a coup d'etat.

Now I want to describe what I know about Kennedy and the Federal Reserve. Kennedy wanted to use silver, which we had a lot of apparently. The Federal Reserve used gold and this brought us into astronomical debt. Kennedy had issued Silver Certificates. As soon as he died they went back to gold and the Silver Certificates stopped. I did not know this, but on the day I first learned about Kennedy issuing them, I looked in a drawer where I have coins I saved since my childhood. When I opened the drawer there was a Silver Certificate atop everything else. And I was so relieved that I had one.

I understand if Kennedy lived and used Silver Certificates, banks would have closed down. The Federal Reserve was a big enemy of his. He had many enemies. Also if he had lived there would not have been a Viet Nam war.

Do I have a close take on the Federal Reserve?

Kathy C

I wonder about Altgens not winning the Pulitzer Prize for this photograph. Yes, Kennedy is reacting to the throat wound. So much is in this picture. No wonder Altgens denied taking it. He was scared for his life.

Kathy C

Altgens never denied taking it.

I think Altgens is full of it.

Kathy C

Thank you Chris.

???

Thanks for those photos, Chris. Keep those photos of Lyndon Johnson in the motorcade coming! In the Altgen's photo, I am beginning to think that that dark blob to the right of Lady Bird is Lyndon Johnson turning and facing in, just as he goes into duck mode.

I seriously doubt if the Altgens photo was take a full 5 seconds after the first shot.

Also, it is possible that 2 shots have have occurred at the time of the "first shot."

Does Kennedy seem to be already hit in the throat by the time of the Altgens photo?

Please keep posting photos of LBJ in the motorcade. Thanks!

That's why I wonder about Altgens not winning the Pulitzer Prize for this paragraph. Yes, Kennedy is reacting to the throat wound. So much is in this picture. No wonder Altgens denied taking it. He was scared for his life.

Kathy C

Didn't someone along the route try to warn JFK or say something to him, but was kept away from the limo? I don't remember the details (if there were any), but I would love to see video of that.

I read that too. I don't think there's any footage of it. I remember the young man went up to the limo saying, "I have to tell you something." And what I read is that the Secret Service was all over this guy. Again, this is coming from Penn Jones? He sure put out a lot of false things.

This could have been planned to show that the SS were protecting Kennedy.

Kathy C