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New Book Claims OSS Assassinated Patton
Conspiracy Theories, George Patton, History, Office of Strategic Services (OSS), WWII, William J. Donovan
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The JFK Assassination: New York Times Acknowledges CIA Deceptions
By Peter Dale Scott
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October 21, 2009
The New York Times, on October 17, published a page-one story by Scott
Shane about the CIA's defiance of a court order to release documents
pertaining to the John F. Kennedy assassination, in its so-called
Joannides file. George Joannides was the CIA case officer for a Cuban
exile group that made headlines in 1963 by its public engagements with
Lee Harvey Oswald, just a few weeks before Oswald allegedly killed
Kennedy. For over six years a former Washington Post reporter, Jefferson
Morley, has been suing the CIA for the release of these documents. [1]
Sometimes the way that a news item is reported can be more newsworthy
than the item itself. A notorious example was the 1971 publication of
the Pentagon Papers (documents far too detailed for most people to read)
on the front page of the New York Times.
The October 17 Times story was another such example. It revealed,
perhaps for the first time in any major U.S. newspaper, that the CIA has
been deceiving the public about its own relationship to the JFK
assassination.
On the Kennedy assassination, the deceptions began in 1964 with the
Warren Commission. The C.I.A. hid its schemes to kill Fidel Castro
and its ties to the anti-Castro Directorio Revolucionario
Estudantil, or Cuban Student Directorate, which received $50,000 a
month in C.I.A. support during 1963.
In August 1963, Oswald visited a New Orleans shop owned by a
directorate official, feigning sympathy with the group's goal of
ousting Mr. Castro. A few days later, directorate members found
Oswald handing out pro-Castro pamphlets and got into a brawl with
him. Later that month, he debated the anti-Castro Cubans on a local
radio station.
That the October 17 story was published at all is astonishing. According
to Lexis Nexis, there have only been two earlier references to the CIA
Joannides documents controversy in any major U.S. newspaper: a brief
squib in the New York Daily News in 2003 announcing the launching of the
case, and a letter to the New York Times in 2007 (of which the lead
author was Jeff Morley) complaining about the Times' rave review of a
book claiming that Oswald was a lone assassin.
(The review had said inter alia that "''Conspiracy theorists'' should be
''ridiculed, even shunned... marginalized the way we've marginalized
smokers.'' The letter pointed out in response that those suspecting
conspiracy included Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Robert Kennedy, and
J. Edgar Hoover.)
The New York Times has systematically regulated the release of any facts
about the Kennedy assassination, ever since November 25, 1963, when it
first declared Oswald, the day after his death, to have been the
"assassin" of JFK. A notorious example was the deletion, between the
early and the final edition of a Times issue, of a paragraph in a review
of a book about the JFK assassination, making the obvious point that
"MYSTERIES PERSIST." [2]
Apparently there was similar jockeying over the positioning of the Scott
Shane story. In some east coast editions it ran on page eleven, with a
trivializing introductory squib, "Food for Conspiracy Theorists." In the
California edition, headlined "C.I.A. Is Still Cagey About Oswald
Mystery," it was on page one above the fold.
One can assume that the Times decision to run the story was a momentous
one not made casually. The same can probably be said of another recent
remarkable editorial decision, to publish Tom Friedman's op-ed on
September 29 about the "very dangerous" climate now in America, "the
same kind of climate here that existed in Israel on the eve of the Rabin
assassination."
Friedman did not mention JFK at all, and his most specific reference was
to a recent poll on Facebook asking respondents, "Should Obama be
killed?" [3] Four days later the Wall Street Journal expressed similar
concern, adding to the "poll on Facebook asking whether the president
should be assassinated, a column on a conservative Web site suggesting a
military coup is in the works." [4]
Friedman's column broke a code of silence about the threats to Obama
that had been in place ever since two redneck white supremacists (Shawn
Adolf and Tharin Gartrell) were arrested in August 2008 for a plot to
assassinate Obama with scoped bolt-action rifles. Andrew Gumbel's story
about them ran in the London Independent on November 16, 2008; of the
fifteen related news stories in Lexis Nexis, only one, a brief one, is
from a U.S. paper.
It is possible to take at face value the concern expressed by Friedman
in his column. The Boston Globe, a New York Times affiliate, reported on
October 18 that "The unprecedented number of death threats against
President Obama, a rise in racist hate groups, and a new wave of
antigovernment fervor threaten to overwhelm the US Secret Service." [5]
But there may have been a higher level of concern in the normally
pro-war Wall Street Journal's reference to a military coup. Such talk on
a conservative web site is hardly newsworthy. More alarming is the
report by Robert Dreyfuss in the October 29 Rolling Stone that Obama is
currently facing an ultimatum from the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs: either
provide General McChrystal with the 40,000 additional troops he has
publicly demanded, or "face a full-scale mutiny by his generals...The
president, it seems, is battling two insurgencies: one in Afghanistan
and one cooked up by his own generals." [6]
One can only guess at what led the New York Times to publish a story
about CIA obstinacy over documents about the JFK assassination. One
explanation would be the similarities between the painful choices that
Obama now faces in Afghanistan - to escalate, maintain a losing status
quo, or begin to withdraw - and the same equally painful choices that
Kennedy in 1963 faced in Vietnam. [7] More and more books in recent
years have asked if some disgruntled hawks in the CIA and Pentagon did
not participate in the assassination which led to a wider Vietnam War. [8]
Six weeks before Kennedy's murder, the Washington News published an
extraordinary attack on the CIA's "bureaucratic arrogance" and
obstinate disregard of orders... "If the United States ever
experiences a `Seven Days in May' it will come from the CIA..." one
U.S. official commented caustically. ("Seven Days in May" is a
fictional account of an attempted military coup to take over the
U.S. Government.) [9]
The story was actually a misleading one, but it was a symptom of the
high-level rifts and infighting that were becoming explosive over
Vietnam inside the Kennedy administration. The New York Times story
about the CIA on October 17 can also be seen as a symptom of rifts and
infighting. One must hope that the country has matured enough since 1963
to avoid a similarly bloody denouement.
*Notes*
1. "C.I.A. Is Cagey About '63 Files Tied to Oswald," New York Times,
October 17, 2009, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/us/17inquire.html
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2. Jerry Policoff, The Media and the Murder of John Kennedy," in Peter
Dale Scott, Paul L. Hoch, and Russell Stetler, The Assassinations:
Dallas and Beyond (New York: Random House/Vintage, 1976), 268.
3. Friedman, in decrying attacks on presidential legitimacy, recalled
that "The right impeached Bill Clinton and hounded him from Day 1 with
the bogus Whitewater "scandal." It is worth recalling also that the
public outcry about Whitewater was encouraged initially by a series of
stories by Jeff Gerth, since largely discredited, in the New York Times.
See Gene Lyons, "Fool for Scandal: How the New York Times Got Whitewater
Wrong," Harper's, October 1994.
4. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125452861657560895.html
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5. Bryan Bender, "Secret Service strained as leaders face more threats
Report questions its role in financial investigations," Boston Globe,
October 18, 2009,
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washingt.../18/secret_serv
ice_under_strain_as_leaders_face_more_threats/
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6. Robert Dreyfuss, "The Generals' Revolt: As Obama rethinks America's
failed strategy in Afghanistan, he faces two insurgencies: the Taliban
and the Pentagon." Rolling Stone, October 29, 41. Several other articles
entitled "The Generals' Revolt" have been published since 2003,
including at least two earlier this year and a number in 2006, when
retired generals' pushed successfully for the removal of Rumsfeld over
his handling of the Vietnam War.
7. Gareth Porter, Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road
to War in Vietnam (Berkeley and Los Angeles: University of California
Press, 2005), 266.
8. See for example James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died
& Why It Matters (Maryknoll, NY: Orbis Books, 2008).
9. Washington Daily News, October 2, 1963; discussed in Peter Dale
Scott, The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War
(Ipswich, MA: Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2008), 286.
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'Lisa Pease'
Subject: My review of C. David Heymann's work
Dear People:
Some of you know me well, some of you barely at all, and some may be wondering why you got this message. I want to alert all of you to my review of C. David Heymann’s book Bobby and Jackie: A Love Story.
As someone who has studied the Kennedys for fifteen years, I found Heymann’s accusations so far from the reality of what other authors had described that I really dug in and did a lot of homework, not just on this book by Heymann, but on several others. I found that many had challenged his credibility before, and in depth.
In this piece, I’ve put a lot of those challenges together in one package. I hope everyone will use this as reference before quoting from or believing anything in a Heymann book ever again.
Enjoy.
http://www.ctka.net/reviews/heymann.html
Lisa Pease
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Co-editor, The Assassinations: Probe Magazine on JFK, RFK, MLK, and Malcolm X (Feral House)
Blog: http://realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/lisapease
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Updated: Aug. 24, 2009
The Central Intelligence Agency was created in 1947 to continue the intelligence work carried out during World War II by the Office of Strategic Services. For the next 57 years, its director was preeminent among the many intelligence-related services that sprung up and flourished across the government. That changed, at least on paper, in 2004, when Congress reorganized the nation's intelligence services along lines suggested bythe 9/11 Commission. But in 2009, the C.I.A. remained the center of attention, as revelations dribbled out about brutal interrogation techniques approved by the Bush adminstration and questions were raised about whether the agency had failed to properly brief members of the Congressional intelligence committees. In July 2009, officials disclosed that since 2001 the agency had developed plans to send small teams overseas to assassinate senior Qaeda leaders.
During the Cold War, the C.I.A. had established itself as key, if clandestine, element in America's foreign policy apparatus, promoting coups in countries like Iran, Guatemala and others seen as sliding toward the embrace of the Soviet Union. Its biggest debacle in that era was the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion, in which a C.I.A.-trained band of Cuban exiles were cut down on the beaches after President John F. Kennedy refused air support for a military operation that was generally regarded afterward as poorly planned and unrealistic. But the next year it was the C.I.A. that provided the intelligence that tipped American officials off to the Soviet effort to install missiles in Cuba -- missiles that were removed after President Kennedy stared down Nikita Krushchev in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
In the mid-1970's, a series of Congressional investigations uncovered a history of assassinations, bribery and other untoward acts by the agency over the decades, resulting in new limits on its power and a new level of oversight. Its power expanded again under President Ronald Reagan, but the 1990s saw a series of embarrassments, including the case of the high-level Soviet mole, Aldrich Ames, and the failure to detect progress in nuclear weapons programs in India and Pakistan.
The years since 9/11 have seen a new urgency in the agency's work, as well as new rounds of criticism, first over the failure to detect the Sept. 11th plot, and later over the handling of intelligence on Iraq and weapons of mass destruction in the run-up to the 2003 invasion.
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In 2004, acting on the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission, Congress enacted sweeping changes to the organization of the nation's intelligence system. As part of the changes, the C.I.A.'s directorship lost its preeminent position to a newly created post, director of national intelligence, who is supposed to oversee the C.I.A. and other intelligence groups.
The agency and its defenders say it has many successes to point to in recent years: the capture of a number of al Qaeda leaders, including Khalid Sheik Muhammad, the mastermind of the Sept. 11th plot; the disruption of a number of unspecificied plots against American interests, and the hiring and training of a new generation of operatives and analysts better suited to the war on terror. Close to half of the agency's employees have served there for five years or less.
At the same time, the C.I.A.'s role in pursuing terrorists raised questions around the secret prisons run by the agency around the world for "high-value'' terror suspects, and the use of coercive interrogation techniques. On his second day in office, President Obama issued a directive banning brutal interrogation techniques that had been approved by the Bush administration Justice Department, and ordering the permanent closing of the secret prisons.
In April 2009, the Obama administration released detailed memos that described interrogation techniques used between 2002 and 2005, including keeping detainees awake for up to 11 straight days, placing them in a dark, cramped box, forced nudity, the slamming of detainees into walls or dousing them with cold water and waterboarding.
When Mr. Obama released the memos about interrogation he said there would be no prosecutions of agency officers who had acted with Justice Department approval. But by July, officials said that Attorney General Eric Holder was close to assigning a prosecutor to look into whether prisoners in the campaign against terrorism were tortured. They said that Mr.Holder began to think more seriously about a torture investigation recently after studying the 2004 C.I.A. inspector general's report, which describes how waterboarding and other methods sometimes went beyond the legal guidelines the Justice Department had approved.
And an 18-month-old criminal investigation of the C.I.A.'s destruction of videotapes of waterboarding and other brutal treatment during interrogation is still under way, with a number of former C.I.A. officials called to testify before a grand jury and at least the possibility of indictments.
In early July, officials revealed that Leon E. Panetta, the new director of the agency, told the Congressional intelligence committees the previous months that the C.I.A. withheld information from them about a secret counterterrorism program on direct orders from then Vice President Dick Cheney, leading to new calls from Democrats for a broad investigation into the C.I.A.'s role under Mr. Bush.
The program was designed in the frantic weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks when President George W. Bush signed a secret order authorizing the C.I.A. to capture or kill operatives of Al Qaeda around the world. To be able to kill Osama bin Laden or his top deputies wherever they might be -- even in cities or countries far from a war zone -- struck top agency officials as an urgent goal, according to people involved in the discussions. But in practice, creating and training the teams proved difficult. Yet year after year, according to officials briefed on the program, the plans were never completely shelved because the Bush administration sought an alternative to killing terror suspects with missiles fired from drone aircraft or seizing them overseas and imprisoning them in secret C.I.A. jails. Eventually, it was shut down by Mr. Panetta when he learned of it.
On Aug. 24, it was revealed that the Justice Department's ethics office, the Office of Personal Responsibility, had recommended reversing the Bush administration and reopening nearly a dozen prisoner-abuse cases, potentially exposing C.I.A. employees and contractors to prosecution for brutal treatment of terrorism suspects.
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Panetta Is Chosen as C.I.A. Chief, in a Surprise Step
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The choice of Leon E. Panetta, a former White House chief of staff, to head the intelligence agency raised questions about his relevant experience.
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By MARK MAZZETTI and SCOTT SHANE
The president-elect must take charge of the agency in what is proving to be one of the more treacherous patches of the transition.
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An inquiry into the agency’s destruction of interrogation tapes was elevated to a formal criminal investigation.
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The C.I.A. in Double Jeopardy
The C.I.A. in Double Jeopardy
By JOSEPH FINDER
A list of Web sites about the C.I.A. as selected by editors of The New York Times.
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Some months ago Randy Owen speculated that the blury shape seen in Bond (1) may infact be the back of "Marie Muchmore's" head.
Given the fact that Moorman & Bond were standing side by side during the period of the assassination.
I now beleive there is a STRONG possibility that Randy's observation may be correct.!
Good work. I guess it is now possible to place all this and other information into a 3D computer program and then look from any position at the scene and to see who is where [or possible to be there / not possible to be there], etc. Wasn't someone going to do that once?.....hell of a lot of work, but well worth the effort, I think. The various photos can also be included - even timings.
Thanks Peter.
Funny you say that, Martin Hindrichs is a 3D specialist.
He has his own 3D Company.
I know that Martin has been trying to gain membership to the Education Forum for some months, but as yet he has not received any response to his Emails from John Simkin.
that is a great pity, because they are missing out on the skills of a great photo anylist.
This is his work.
Moorman 3
John i wrote to you and asked about martin joining the ef...quite some time back you wrote me that if he sent you his bio photo etc he would be given a membership....i sent martin your address he wrote in return then and said he had sent all..to you.....i am wondering what went wrong as to what the problem was..as yes this forum has been missing out on access to this man's great photo analyst abilities. what a team this. opportunity could have presented re chris , martin and robbin...and...working in unison on this board...to possibly further the research which is why we are all here, imo...thanks..robin for bringing attention to this...b..
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Thanks Steve.
another thank you also...
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YOUR WELCOME JACK...FROM SYLVIA MEAGHER TALKING ABOUT CHANGES....B...
Sylvia Meagher..Press Descriptions Wounds..
PRESS DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PRESIDENTS WOUNDS
"A wealth of discrepancies,distortions, and omissions impels one to conclude that the official autopsy report is unreliable; that the description of the President's wounds is innacurate ; that the single-missile theory is wholly unsupported by and in conflict with the evidence; that this theory respresents an attempt to salvage the case against Lee Harvey Oswald as a lone assassin; that the conclusions in the WR on the source,number,and perpetration of the shots are completely invalid; and that the evidence in fact constitutes proof of conspiracy.."..Sylvia Meagher...1967.
Press Descriptions:
"In the first days and weeks after the assassination news stories constantly revised the number, location, and nature of the President's wounds..
At Parkland Hospital according to the Doctors, he has suffered and entrance wound at the Adam's apple and a massive wound in the head."
New York World-Telegram and Sun: Nov.23/63..p.2
New York Times :Nov.24/63..p2.col 6.
New York Post : Nov.24/63..p2.col 3
"The official theory to account for those wounds was that the President had been shot while his car was approaching the Book Depository Building".
New York Herald-Tribune, Nov.27/63.pp1& 9
"That was soon dropped in favor of a new theory; that he was shot on Elm Street while the car was moving away from the Book Depository, when he turned backward to wave at the crowd".
Paul Mandel,"End to Nagging Rumors:" The Six Critical Seconds."
Life, Dec.4/63.p.52F,col 2.
"That was dropped in turn when films of the assassination showed that the President was facing forward at the strategic time.On site tests were conducted on Dec.5,1963 by the Secret Service-----presumably with the autopsy report in hand,Com.doc.at the NA consists of a receipt for various items ,including ""one copy of autopsy report and notes of the examing doctor"", turned over to Robert I.Bouck of the Secret Service Research Section by the White House physician on November 26,1963. The tests were conducted for the acknowledged purpose of determining how the President was shot in the front from behind."
The New York Times, Dec.6/63..p.6
"The experiment was not successful".
About 4 weeks after the assassination it became known that the SS had interviewed the Parkland doctors and informed of the autopsy findings.
(St.Louis Post-Dispatch,Dec18/63.)
A new version of the wounds was made public, which mentioned for the first time that the Pres. had been shot in the back.
(New YorkTimes,Washington Post,& St.Louis Post-Dispatch,Dec 18/63)
Some stories also said that the bullet that had struck his back "was found deep in his shoulder"
One story said the bullet had entered"five to seven inches below the collar line".
( Washington Post.Dec18/63 and May29/66 )
others said "several inches below the collar line"(The Washington Post said on May 29/66 that the information had been confirmed by the FBI before publication.)
It was now reported that the Parkland doctors now agreed that the entrance wound at the Adam's apple was now in reality an exit wound.
St.Louis Post-Dispatch,Dec.18/63..
Some reports of the autopsy findings that were leaked to the press contradicted each other as well as the official autopsy report ultimately published..
The New Tork Times stated on Dec.17/63,that the FBI report of Dec.9/63
revealed that one bullet had struck Kennedy where the right shoulder joins the neck and another had struck his RIGHT TEMPLE..
NY Times Dec.17/63.p31.cols 7-8.
The next day The NY Times published another report,from a "source fully acquainted with the results of the autopsy."
Now there was a small neat wound in the back that had penetrated two or three inches, and according to " the pathologists at Bethesda." the wound at the Adam's apple had been caused by a metal or bone fragment from the fatal head shot..
NY Times.Dec.18/63.p27,cols 4-6.
Within 24 hrs.The NY Times gave stillanother account, in which the pathologists were said to have found that the bullet in the back had lodged in Kennedy's body and that a second bullet had hit the RIGHT REAR of his HEAD...
NY Times.Dec 19/63, p23,col.1
The story added that a fragment of the bullet had passed out the front of the neck. More than a month later the Times was still reporting that a bullet had lodged in Kennedy's right shoulder.
NY Times.Jan 26/64,p.58,col.4
Thus for more than two months after the assassination the press asserted repeatedly that the first bullet to strike the President had entered several inches below the collar line and had lodged in the body. The same stories gave a variety of versions of the head wound: that a bullet had gone in and out of the back of the head according to Dr.Kemp Clark:
NY Post,Nov.24/63.p 2,col 3.
that a bullet struck the back of the head to the right;
NY Herald-Tribune,Nov.27/63.pp1 & 9.
that a bullet struck the right temple.
NY Times,Dec 17/63.p31,cols.7-8.
the back of the skull.
NY Times.Dec18/63.p.27,col5.
and the right rear of the head
NY Times Dec.29/63.col 1
The autopsy report, with it's presumably authoritative data, was not published: Dr.J.J. Humes, the chief autopsy surgeon, said that he had been forbidden to talk.
NY Times.Dec.6/63,p.18,col.7
"As one version of the wounds succeeded another with dizzying speed and confusion, only one constant remained: Oswald was the lone assassin and had fired all the shots from the sixth floor of the Book Depository. When facts came into conflict with that thesis ,the facts and not the thesis changed .Critics of the already implausible case against Oswald concluded from this that the truth was being suppressed and perverted in order to persuade the public, at all costs, to accept his sole guilt. Nothing that came to light later presented grounds for altering that conclusion..".
In Sept. 64 the WR provided the official version..According to the Report.
(1) President Kennedy was first struck by a bullet which entered at the back of his neck and exited through the lower front portion of his neck,causing a wound which would not necessarily have been lethal.The President was struck a second time by a bullet which entered the right-rear portion of his head,causing a massive and fatal wound.
(2) Goveror Connally was struck by a bullet which entered on the right side of his back and traveled downward through the right side of his chest,exiting below his right nipple.This bullet then passed through his right wrist and entered his left thigh where it caused a superficial wound.
WR.19
Elsewhere the Com expressed the view that the bullet had struck the Presdient first and exited through the front of his neck and then struck the Governor..and inflicted all his wounds.The Governor himself did not agree with that view, convinced he was hit by a second bullet after an earlier bullet struck the President.
Autopsy Report.
VOL.4.CE.387.. is Undated.
Chief Autopsy Surgeon: Commander J.J. Humes, burned his "preliminary draft notes"and handed over all other papers related to the report to "higher authorities",in a certificate dated Nov.24/63....but according to to his testimony he burnt the first draft of the autopsy report .(Vol.2.H 373)..He states all working papers had remained in his personal custody at all times: that his notes and handwritten draft of the final report were handed over to the commanding officer of the U.S.Medical School at 5pm.Nov.24/63.and that no papers remained in his possession.(Exh.CE 397.p48) Again conflict between the certification and the testimony: Humes told the Com.that the drawings of the wounds had been prepared on the basis of his memory and notes of the autopsy.(Vol.2H 349-350).These certificates suggest the official autopsy report was completed and handed over to the authorities two days after the death of the President.The document begins with a description of the circumstances of the assn.based,it is explained on "available information" and newspaper reports..
1.Absence of a date on autopsy report.
2.Unauthorized release of it's supported contents in Dec.63.
weeks after it was completed and handed over according to Dr.Humes.
3.Findings that were leaked, are completely inconsistant with the actual contents of the autopsy report.
4.On site tests by the SS.Dec.63,were based on findings different from those in the published autopsy report.
5.The certificates read as if they had been written, after a passage of time,as if to account for the disposition of documents at an earlier time.
Whether authentic or not,the evidence that the autopsy report was completed on Nov. 24/63..fails to account for the leaking of different autopsy findings on Dec.17 & 18th/63.or for the conduct of on site tests on Dec.5th. by the SS on the basis of findings other than those in the final document..
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Information from "Accessories After The Fact"..Sylvia Meagher..
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SOME may be interested....in seeing information within these below..
Master set of Medical Exhibits ARRB
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...et/contents.htm
Medical reports Doctors of Parkland.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...eport_0270b.htm
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Good one Jack! "He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." - Orwell
Many of us already know the basics of Dallas, 9-11 and other controlled and contrived past 'mis-history'; it is for the great majority of people, sadly, needed for those in power to come 'clean' and admit it. Many to most will see the Emperor with all his clothes [though butt naked] until the Emperor of Empire himself/itself admits there was a mistake. Sad. Lesson: Analyze and think things through for yourselves and don't trust authority! "Power concedes nothing without demand. It never has and never will."-Frederick Douglas. Also, 'Don't believe anything, until it is officially denied."
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The book isn't on Amazon yet, nor listed on Donald T. Phillips' site.
It's a toss-up where the final front hit came from, based on the extant Z-film. It seems to me now that the lower you place the right rear evulsion, the more likely the round came from the GK fence or the elevated north sewer, though the lower fence location seems best choice. I don't think it's a south knoll round anymore, unless I'm better convinced.
Have people seen this slo-mo rendering? It may be more useful for the throat wound and JBC, though:
THANKS DAVID FOR THE SLO MO..HAVE YOU PER CHANCE GONE THROUGH THE MEDICAL AUTOPSY STUDIES OF DR.DAVID MANTIK AND OR DOUG HORNE..THE FINDINGS OF THE TRAJECTORY OF THE BULLET THROUGH THE HEAD IS ON A UPWARD ANGLE NOT DOWNWARD AS IT WOULD NEED TO BE IF FROM THE TSBD..
BELOW IS SOME INFO FROM DR WECHT'S FINDINGS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN..THAT I COPIED FROM HIS BOOK A FEW YEARS AGO..IN A POST BEST B...Dr.Cyril Wecht
Information from…. “Tales From The Morgue”.
2005...Prometheus Books
In February 1965 Dr .Cyril Wecht was asked by the American Academy of Forensic Sciences (AAFS) to present a “critical view” of the Warren Commission Report (WC), in Chicago. The only access to the report was at the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh. No one could check out copies, so he spent each evening for two weeks reading the key portions of the 26 volumes. They were based largely on, three sources, the Zapruder film, the FBI investigations, and the autopsy.
The Film was of the uppermost importance as the report repeatedly pointed to the film being the decisive evidence, in that it determined the number of shots fired, the sequence of injuries to the President and the Governor, the trajectory of those bullets, and the number of gunmen.
It contained 486 frames, ran about 18.3 frames per second, meaning that the film caught the reactions every 1/8th of a second.
The WC created on Nov.29, 1963 by President L.B.Johnson, executive order #11130, reported that “Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President’s throat also caused Governor Connally’s wounds.” The report also stated that the second bullet that struck President Kennedy came from the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD).
In 1965, Dr.Wecht had no reason to question the Zapruder film.
He had believed the WC findings …..After all it stated that the Zapruder film had proved its findings that Oswald had fired the shots, and acted alone, they were agreed to by the Chief Justice Earl Warren, and six other respected commission members, the FBI, and beside all that, the physical evidence that connected LHO to the killing was overwhelming. In other-wards it was a slam dunk. “Pretty damning evidence, or so it seemed at the time.”
“My intent was not to question the findings of the Warren Commission, but to review how the autopsy and other medicolegal aspects of the inquiry were conducted. In doing so, I became simply astonished.”
The first problem was that the Secret Service had removed the body, from Dallas to Washington.
At this point in time LHO was still alive, arrested, in the city jail, and if not murdered would have been put on trial in Dallas, because the 6th Amendment of the Constitution requires people to be tried where the crime takes place.
The authorities within that state retain all evidence, as that guarantees its authenticity. In removing the body from control of the Dallas County coroner, federal officials probably destroyed the admissibility of any evidence gained through the autopsy held in Washington.
At Bethesda, Dr.James Humes, and Dr.J.Thornton Boswell, not forensic pathologists and Dr.PierreFinck who was, but had not functioned in that position in any coroner’s office.
Neither the military officers nor any person in the autopsy room, in charge, had either the education, training, or experience for the task. Seemingly, Humes and Boswell started before Finck arrived, and they missed the fact that there was an entrance wound in the front of the President’s neck, the path of the wound was not traced, and they did not dissect nor trace the wound in his back, also Humes burnt his early autopsy notes.
Dr.Wecht found that the brain, which is soft and cannot be examined immediately, had been placed in a fixture of formalin, which then allows it to harden. But he discovered that two weeks later they had not performed an adequate examination by not serially sectioning that brain. This would have allowed them to trace the path of the bullet(s) that struck the President in the head. They said this was what killed him, yet they did not dissect the brain…He was needless to say, flabbergasted, and is as appalled today as he was then back 1965.
After researching the medical and autopsy findings, he was disturbed and critical, also of the police investigation .The crime scene was not protected, witnesses were allowed to leave, without being questioned .The limousine was not properly quarantined nor examined for forensic evidence; the Governor’s clothes were laundered before examination.
However at that time in 1965 he concluded his report without questioning the basic findings of the WC. That was not his charge, and neither did he have sufficient evidence or reason to believe they were wrong in deciding that Oswald was the lone assassin. He was though, quite critical of the autopsy and the forensic investigation. He did announce that had LHO not been murdered and put on trial for the murder of President Kennedy, the prosecutors would have lost.
“ The medical and forensic evidence was so screwed up, so incomplete, and so tainted that it would not have held up in a court of law.”..
After the lecture, at a breakfast meeting, Dr. Pierre Finck approached him and extended his congratulations on his report. Dr.Wecht could have told him he was wrong in his conclusions but did not. Dr.Finck instead stated to him, and he has never forgotten,
“You cannot believe what it was like, it was horrible. Horrible. I only wish I could tell you about it.” He regrets in not pushing Dr.Finck a little more for some details, but he did not and he thought at the time that would be all he would ever say publicly about the assassination of President J.F.Kennedy. As we know Dr.Cyril Wecht was so very wrong.
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On the morning of Aug.24, 1972, in Washington D.C, where Dr.Cyril Wecht had flown from Pittsburgh, the previous evening, he was ready and waiting at 8 am for a cab to be flagged, so he could begin his trip through the National Archives (N/A) having finally been given access to the Kennedy assassination materials.
In 1965 an unheard of event had taken place, the federal officials in their maddening wisdom, had chosen to turn over to Jacqueline Kennedy, all physical and autopsy materials ,and it is unacceptable to this day. This was evidence in a crime, plain and simple, the fact that it was evidence in an assassination of the President made it all the more horrific. In 1966 she turned it over to the National Archives, a request to the court being that the materials not be made public until after the death of her children. She did however say that recognized experts in the field of pathology would be allowed to apply to review the materials “for serious historical purpose.”
Dr.Wecht in 1971 was president of the American College of Legal Medicine, and he had applied for over a year to the N/A, and Burke Marshall, the executor of the Kennedy archive materials, seeking the access to review them. His letters and phone calls went unanswered. Then in 1971 when New York Times investigative reporter, Fred Graham, called him, having heard that he had applied to the N/A, he told him he was being stonewalled and so Graham made a few phone calls to find out why? Within a few days of Graham’s call, he was contacted by Burke Marshall and the wheels began to turn. He was given two days of exclusive access to all the physical evidence, autopsy materials and crime scene photographs.
When he arrived that morning and entered, he was still somewhat skeptical of the official version of the investigations into the assassination.
Dr C.Wecht: “What I saw during those two days convinced me that the truth still remains unknown. Those two days changed my view about the honesty of my government”..
Within the National Archives building he was directed to a Mr. Marion Johnson, an affable man who shook his hand, and told him he was there to help him in any way he could, and led him to a large private room, containing a table, chair, an x-ray viewing machine and a projector.
He had brought his own microscope, as none was available for him.
As he scanned the list of materials connected to the assassination he noticed the item, an original copy of the Zapruder film. Mr. Johnson had set up the projector to review the film, if he wished.
“He added that the film was only about thirty seconds long .He said that while more than five hundred photographs and pieces of film recorded portions of the assassination, only the Zapruder film captured the entire event on tape. When he informed me that the film was graphic, I reminded him that I’m a forensic pathologist and used to witnessing the result of violence and tragedy”..
What he did not tell Johnson was that he had seen the Zapruder film; in 1966 he had received a call from Dr.Josiah Thompson, who was working on an article for Life magazine, he had told him.
“that the editors at Life had purchased an original copy of the Zapruder film and that they wanted me to fly to New York to watch the eight-millimeter film with them”.
The film had not been shown publicly at that time, though some frames had been published in its magazine. He had read about the film seen the few photographs and studied the additional frames that had been printed in the WC. Report. He was acutely aware of how important the film was.
Wecht watched the film in N.Y with Thompson and the Life editors, Thompson explained to him that the film had been taken with a Bell & Howell Model 414D Zoomatic Director Series camera. The film 8mm Kodachrome color but recorded no sound, it consisted of 486 frames played at 18.3 frames a second. Taken approximately, by Abraham Zapruder, on a pedestal, assisted by Marilyn Sitzman, his receptionist some 70 feet from the middle of Elm St. where the Presidential limousine passed. He had sold a copy to Life for $150,000.
To better examine the timing and sequence, Life had printed each frame into 11 by 15 inch photographs.
He sat alone and watched the film, again, that morning at the N/A examining the still enlargements of each frame. As he watched it over and over, and reviewed the still photographs, he felt that the WC was right, that the Zapruder was the best documentary of the assassination, but that it contradicted some conclusions of the WC..
First: It called into question the timing of the bullet that supposedly hit both the President and Governor. If it struck JFK in frame 210 as the WC said, then more than a second elapses before the Governor is hit, and that is not consistent with a bullet that is traveling at speed of two thousand feet a second.
Second: Firearms experts had said that it would take 2.3 seconds for the Mannlicher-Carcano to be re-loaded and fired again, far too little time for the President and the Governor to have been shot with the same gun.
Third: It called into doubt the trajectory of the bullet.
If as the WC had concluded that one missile # 399, had entered the President’s back and coursed through the upper part of his back and neck, striking neither bone nor cartilage, then exited from the front of his neck, midline near the level of the knot of his tie.
Then entered the Governor’s back, breaking the right fifth rib, which destroyed four inches of that bone, then exited from the front of the Governor’s chest below his right nipple.
The same bullet then re-entering the back of the Governor’s wrist , which caused a fragmented fracture, in what is called the distal end of the radius, that being…one of the two large bones that comes down from the elbow to the wrist….
Then finally exiting the front of the Governor’s right wrist and re-entering his left thigh..
But as he viewed the Zapruder film and the photographs, he realized something was wrong. If a bullet had been fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD towards the President in frame 210, as the WC concluded. It would have been traveling at a downward angle, of about 17 degrees, from back to front, and from right to left as it entered his back…but a bullet travels in a straight line, unless it strikes an object on the way to alter its course..?
If the bullet was shot from the TSBD, it would travel from left to right, and if it did not hit any bones, within the president’s body, then JFK would have to have been sitting dramatically forward, his head almost on his knees, for that bullet to have exited through his neck, but the Zapruder film showed him sitting almost bolt upright. As we know for the bullet to have done what the WC stated, it would have had to emerge from the president’s neck, stop in midair, make an acute turn to the right about 18 to 20 inches ,stop again in midair ,turn downward and enter the governor’s back on the right side just behind his right armpit.
Because if you draw a straight line from the president’s back at the point of entrance and the front of the neck, at the site of the knot or a tie, as shown in the Zapruder film, the bullet would probably miss the governor,
completely or possibly it could have clipped him on the left back or left shoulder area instead of his right armpit. But fours years of medical school, six years of additional education and training, to become a forensic pathologist as well as three years of law school and nearly a decade of experience at the time, had led him to understand one basic principle and common sense as well, that bullets travel in straight lines, they do not change course in mid air, it was a “magic bullet”.
This bullet was very special, it was found on a stretcher by a maintenance man, so the story went, at Parkland Hospital after the President and the Governor had been wheeled in. The federal authorities said initially they did not know about the wound in JFK’s neck ?, so they decided that at Parkland this bullet must have come from his back when they were trying to save his life. When they did learn, (they said the next day), and decided that the bullet must have entered his back and exited his neck. (Without ever dissecting the throat wound at Bethesda.).Under their original theory, the bullet which traveled at a speed of two thousand feet per second, did not have the power to penetrate the President’s starched collar?
That was some heavy starch.
But then along came the Warren Report with a second theory..
They had to make the facts fit the story that LHO was the lone shooter, so they had to develop a scenario whereby only three bullets were fired, all from the 6th floor window of the TSBD…….and they also had to have it taken place within the time frame of the Zapruder film. So Arlen Specter a young brilliant lawyer serving as one of the junior counsel members on the W/C, came up with a scenario that fit. It required that all the nonfatal wounds from President Kennedy and Governor Connally were caused by the same bullet. (So it fell from Governor Connally’s thigh .If it was to work?.)
Dr.Cyril Wecht: “And then there is the business of the bullet just popping out of Governor’s Connally’s left thigh while he was lying on the stretcher at Parkland Hospital. This is a substantial piece of metal that was buried deep in the governor’s thigh near the femur. The entrance hole in the skin was small. There is no way that a bullet that went down that deep would just come back out. A bullet will on rare occasions plop out of an entrance wound, if the wound is a large gaping wound with extensively torn tissues. But in wounds such as the one suffered by Governor Connally in the left thigh, bullets become immediately entrapped in hemorrhagic tissue. The tissue swells and the skin, which stretches to accommodate the entry of the bullet, becomes elastic like within a few seconds, entrapping the bullet in the tissue”.
Mr. Johnson brought him CE 399, in a small case, it rested on a bed of cotton padding, he picked up the bullet and held it against the light. It is in nearly pristine condition, the bullet before it is shot weighs 161 grams….the bullet he held in his fingers weighed 158.6…Impossible.
Even the autopsy pathologists agreed with him on this point Dr.Pierre Fink had asked Arlen Specter during the WC if CE 199 “could have been the bullet which inflicted the wound on Governor Connally’s right wrist?”
“No, for the reason that there are too many fragments described in that wrist,” Dr.Finck responded. “There was practically no loss off this bullet.”
The federal government did try to duplicate with an experiment and replicate the magic bullet at US Army’s Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland. They tried Mannlicher-Carcano bullets through goat carcasses and human cadavers, broke one rib in the goat’s chest and also finally they broke a distal end of the radius in the human cadavers to simulate the wounds in Connally.
They also fired MC bullets into cotton wadding. The bullets that broke the goats rib were significantly deformed. The bullets that broke the radius bone in the human cadaver were tremendously deformed .Some fragmented and all showed the mushrooming, umbrella-like appearance, seen in bullets that hit dense bones.
Keeping in mind that none of the bullets hit and broke both bones as the Magic Bullet did. The WC own experiments failed and proved that the single-bullet theory was physically impossible.
As Dr.Wecht looked at the CE 399 bullet, he realized that it was a “magic bullet”..Magic because it accommodated the WCs every wish and desire.
“There has never been a bullet like this one in the world”.
Among the many documents and such that he came upon was a verbatim transcript of a briefing at Parkland Hospital at 3.16pm., just two hours
After the President had been pronounced dead…
Dr. Malcolm Perry and neurosurgeon Dr. Kemp Clark discuss what they witnessed.
“Reporters: Where was the entrance wound?
Dr. Perry: There was an entrance wound in the neck.
Reporter: Which way was the bullet coming on the neck wound?
Dr.Perry: It appeared to be coming at him.
Reporter: Doctor describe the entrance wound.
Dr.Perry: The wound appeared to be an entrance wound in the front of the throat.”
He scanned through some of the 500 photos taken that day in Dealey Plaza ..Some that showed the presidential limousine turning from Main onto Houston, directly in front of the shooter? Why didn’t he shoot at the President then? Unobstructed by trees or foliage, a clear shot. Instead the WC claimed that he waited until it was partially hidden and at a more difficult angle to hit the moving target?? It didn’t make sense…
He examined the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and the spent three shells. He is not a gun expert, but can tell us that it is not a very sophisticated weapon; it is weighty, bulky, and not easy to fire or to reload. It is considered by to be a most inferior weapon of it’s genre in existence at that time.
He then was allowed also to examine the President’s clothes.
“His shirt, pants and jacket, were neatly folded and separated from each by a thin soft paper.” He held up his suit jacket and examined the bullet hole, it is approximately five and three-quarter inches down from the base of the back.
This raised another interesting issue to him, where was the entrance wound in the President’s back?
The doctors handling the autopsy placed the bullet wound further down on the President’s back initially. About five and three quarter inches from the base of the neck?.
The Secret Service agents who had the first contact with the President immediately after the shooting, two Secret Service Agents Glenn Bennett and Clint Hill, who had first contact with the President immediately after the shooting, had told the WC that the bullet hole was four to six inches below the neckline on the right of the spinal column, which is exactly where the autopsy notes indicated it was. Even the FBI agents who had witnessed the autopsy had reported a back wound that “was below the shoulders”. In their report (Sibert and O’Neill), which was sealed till a few years ago, stated they doubted the same bullet that entered the back could have exited the neck, because the bullet entrance was too low on the back. The WC and the Government claimed it was actually four inches higher. That made their theory that the same bullet that entered, and somehow exited his neck, though that was highly unlikely. Also by moving Governor Connelly’s seating farther and farther to the left. It made it all the more feasible to them.
Even though in the Zapruder film and in eyewitness confirmation that he was sitting directly in front of the President, if they had edged him over any closer he would have been sitting in Mrs. Connally’s lap.
His attention returned to studying frames 312 and 313 of the Zapruder film, he saw that President Kennedy’s head is in a slight chin-downward position as the fatal bullet strikes his head, they showed him that blood and brain matter sprayed on Mrs. Kennedy and the back of the presidential limousine and the Dallas motorcyclists who followed their car.
He wondered why, if the bullet was fired from behind, why did the president’s head lurched backwards, instead of forward with the momentum of the bullet, and why did nearly all the blood spray and matter go towards the back of the of the limousine if the bullet was fired from behind? It made no sense.
Indeed the size and location of that fatal head wound, which was instrumental in determining the position of the assassin was in dispute.
“The truth is, very little about the evidence in this case is not in dispute.”
The emergency room Physicians at Parkland and the three autopsy pathologists (at Bethesda) agreed the President died of a massive fatal head wound toward the back right of the skull.
The size and location of the head wound, officially changed in 1968. The Attorney General, Ramsey Clark (The Clark Panel) re-examined the autopsy records and determined that President Kennedy’s wound was actually 4 inches higher on his head that either the emergency doctors or the autopsy pathologists had indicated. They said it was a simply and easy mistake and that the higher head wound proved that the fatal shot came from the TSBD. They based their findings exclusively on a review of the autopsy photographs and x-Rays.
The problem of course, was that the head wound the Clark Panel saw is so significantly different from the wound described by Parkland and the autopsy pathologists (at Bethesda). The emergency doctors saw cerebellar tissue when they examined the president’s head, (this is a part of the brain from the lower portion of the head, no where near where this new entry site was located.)This intrigued Dr.Wecht.
He then turned his attention to the autopsy materials and started with the original autopsy report and photographs. The original autopsy described an entrance point as “just above the external occipital protuberance” which is the bony knob at the bottom rear of the skull, while they did not say how far above, it is certain they were not saying four inches.. The blow out wound was on the back right side of the president’s head, also known as the “parietal-temporal area.”
While he was critical of the three autopsy pathologists lack of forensic pathology expertise, he did not believe they could have mistaken the back of his head for the top of the president’s head..
As he examined the autopsy photographs and x-Rays he also found a couple of previously unreported items…the x-Rays showed a very dense 6.5 millimeter object at the base of the skull. It was 9 centimeters above the external occipital protuberance (bony knob at the bottom rear of the skull)
And one centimeter below a crack in the parietal bone in the skull.( above the occipital bone right hand side). It was a large fragment seen in the x-Ray that was not mentioned in the autopsy?? Equally as baffling was the fact, that it was so large as fragments go, and why the pathologists had not retrieved it as they had smaller fragments? And in addition why had a small flap on the back of the president’s head, slightly above his neckline, that appeared to be loose tissue, and was it an entrance wound or an exit wound?.. Had also not been reported…?
If it was an entrance wound, it would prove the lone assassin theory wrong,
and obsolete, because it would mean an additional bullet had been fired at the president, and recall the Zapruder film confines the shooting to six seconds. If it was an exit wound then that would disprove the lone assassin because it shows a bullet from the front. Meaning an accomplice and a conspiracy.
Unfortunately the only way to know for sure is to exhume the body, and conduct a second autopsy, but Dr.Wecht knew neither the Kennedy family nor the federal government will allow such within his life time..
Something else seemed odd to him, in the autopsy photographs, there was very short thick hair covering the back spot where the Parkland doctors saw the open gaping wound , the hair is less than an inch long though in an area where the hair would have been much longer. Instead, this was the length of hair normally found at the bottom of the scalp. It made him wonder if the president’s head in the autopsy photos had been tampered with to cover the actual wound.
He also examined a roll of film that had been improperly exposed and ruined, he learned that an autopsy photographer (Floyd Riebe )
took a series of pictures at Bethesda as they were starting the autopsy.
A military officer seized the camera, and stripped the film from such claiming he was not authorized to take the photographs, it was overexposed. This roll reminded Dr.Wecht of Dr.Finck’s remark regarding how horrible the conditions were that night at the autopsy.
Spending time with and reviewing Governor Connally’s X-Rays taken at Parkland that showed bone injuries and fractures to his right fifth rib and right radius above the wrist ,and also showing small fragments embedded in his chest, right wrist, and left thigh..They were never removed, (even after his death ) and could have proven or disproven whether they came from the magic bullet..(Another deliberate gaffe.)
As his time was running out he asked for three additional items.
(1: The President’s brain.
(2: The Autopsy photographs of the President’s chest wounds.
(3: The microscopic tissue slides of the wounds.
The brain was removed the evening of the autopsy. It was placed in a container of formalin to preserve it, it is a soft tissue, and the formalin causes it to harden and then the doctors are able to dissect and determine the trajectories of the bullets. However the president’s brain had not been dissected. But he thought it had been preserved for future examination.
The microscopic slides included sections of the actual wounds; he would have been able to tell if they were entrance or exit wounds. They would reveal the outer layer of skin called the epidermis, if it was pushed in then it would be an entrance, if out it would be an exit. There are also other differentiating features between exit and entrance wounds.
But that is when Mr. Johnson told Dr.Wecht the shocker
President Kennedy’s brain.
Some X-rays of the chest.
The microscopic slides.
Were all missing.
Gone.
Taken.
The Warren Report states that the brain was, “removed and preserved for further study”.The brain, x-Rays and microscopic slides were placed in a small metal container for storage amongst other Kennedy assassination materials presented to Mrs. Kennedy ,though there is no evidence she ever received them. Instead they were stored for about a year, by the president’s secretary Evelyn Lincoln, and his brother Robert.
Mr. Johnson told Dr.Wecht that when the family decided to turn all materials over the National Archives as a gift, the brain, chest X-rays, and microscopic slides were mysteriously not included. He also said he had no idea whatever happened to them, who had them, nor when they disappeared.
These three missing items are the key pieces of the hard physical evidence.
So as a result much of the case is based upon subjective interpretation or circumstantial, it is physical evidence that cannot be replaced nor duplicated.
Dr.Cyril Wecht left the National Archives late that Friday afternoon, after spending two full days examining the evidence in the President’s assassination. He was met by Fred Graham of the New York Times; he was pleased to discuss his findings with him as he had been so helpful in his being able to gain access to the materials. What he told him about the missing brain and all, as well as his general observations and opinions, in regard to the physical and medical evidence. Was published on the front page of the New York Times on the Sunday Aug 27th,1972 by Mr. Graham in which he detailed the doctor’s findings.
His interest did not cease in the assassination then or in the future.
In 1975 amid the strong public dissatisfaction of the outcome of the investigation of their President’s murder, President Gerald Ford, who was an original member of the WC, created the Rockefeller Commission, headed by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller.
One of the panel’s senior lawyers interviewed Dr.Wecht as to his scientific opinion, and for five hours he walked him through his critique of the autopsy, his analysis of the medical and physical evidence. He testified that the evidence made it clear that the Single Bullet was nonsense, that all bullets were not fired from behind, and that more than three shots were fired at the President and the Governor. That the autopsy was a sham, that he was convinced there was a second gunman, and the case should be reopened and reinvestigated.
Imagine his surprise when he read the Rockefeller’s Commission’s Report stating that he agreed with their opinion that all shots came from behind and most likely the TSBD. The report made clear that this was all the evidence that Dr. Wecht had provided to the commission.
He demanded to see a transcript of his testimony, and was told it was confidential, and that by releasing it in full, it would be a breach of national security.
He was stunned and dumbfounded .His statement was a matter of national security, he had never realized he was that important.
To a reporter from the Associated Press he stated:
“It that transcript shows in any way that I have withdrawn or revised my thoughts on the Warren Commission Report, I’ll eat the transcript on the steps of the White House.”
Twenty years later the government finally released the transcript of his entire five hour interview. It showed exactly what he had said..
Two years later the Government created the House Select Committee on Assassinations in1977 they were charged with reopening investigations into the assassinations of President John F Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King. To help it acquire, organize and analyze the medical and physical evidence in the Kennedy case, they appointed a 9 member pathology panel, and Dr.Wecht was surprised when he was asked to be a member on the panel. He learned later from personal friends that pressure had been applied to have him not appointed.
So for several months they discussed and reviewed the evidence. All agreed that the autopsy was woefully substandard, and all nine agreed the forensic investigation was equally tragic. The other 8 pathologists were well qualified and very experienced. He simply believes that they had made up their minds long ago that the WC was probably correct, and as a result their eyes were closed to accepting any different explanations. He challenged them to show him another bullet that could match the condition and weight of the so-called magic bullet. “Go back to your respective cities and search through the thousands and thousands of bullets and show me one bullet that has done what you say this bullet and has and looks like this bullet looks,” He implored the panel.
Twenty seven years later, he is still waiting.
His gut feeling was that the HSCA would only whitewash this investigation as well. He was somewhat surprised when they found in their finally report that there was a high degree of probability that the President’s death was a result of a conspiracy and that there was a second gunman involved. The committee also pointed to the Mafia and that they had motive and means to organize an assassination plot.
They also stated that the senior government officials were determined that any investigation would be a finding of a single assassin, Oswald.
“It must be said that the FBI generally exhausted its resources in confirming the case against Oswald as the lone assassin, a case that Director J.Edgar Hoover, at least, seemed determined to make within twenty-four hours of the assassination.”
The committee’s report, turned over all of its findings to the FBI and the US Dept. of Justice for further investigation.
Unfortunately, the Justice Dept. was never interested and or willing to continue the inquiry.
“So what did happen? Was there a conspiracy? How many gunmen were there? How many shots were fired?”
Dr.Cyril Wecht believes there are two elements to consider. He believes that there was a conspiracy, and also that the physical, medical and scientific evidence clearly points to at least two shooters. That under the law if there were two shooters, then there was a “conspiracy”, that there were at least four shots fired, perhaps five. Three were probably fired from behind and probably two from the front.
He has never believed that the murder was a result of an official FBI or CIA planned assassination, but that it was a domestic plot, and that there was no foreign power involved. While some members of organized crime may have had a hand and a contributing role, they were not the principals who did orchestrate the overthrow of the government in 1963.
CBS anchor Dan Rather asked Dr.Wecht in 1979 if he believed there was a postassassination conspiracy cover-up by government officials or the Warren Commission to hide the truth regarding the assassination, or were the numerous missteps the result of sheer incompetence?.
“I think it was both. I think the autopsy and original investigation was sheer incompetence that was in no way meant to be part of a cover-up I have never suggested that these pathologists or even some members of the Warren Commission knowingly engaged in any kind of conspiracy. However I think as things developed, when they began to realize that there were tremendous defects and gaps in their overall investigation and forensic scientific aspects of the case, they felt that they simply had to put it together in some seemingly plausible scenario. I think it started off as incompetence but that it has become an organized effort to ensure that the truth would never be exposed.”
“In 1992 Congress did pass the JFK Assassination Records Collection Act, which required the establishment of an Assassination Records and Review Board to review and declassify millions of documents related to the president’s slaying. Approximately five million such records were made public. It was a huge step forward in discovering what happened.”
While there have been no” smoking guns” found among the documents such as the CIA admitting that they were behind the shooting, some of the records did contain big surprises. For instances there is a previously confidential memo from the lawyer of Dr. George Burkley, who as President Kennedy’s personal physician was in the motorcade that day when he was shot. Also was present in Parkland and in Bethesda during the autopsy. In 1977, in a letter to the HSCA, Burkley’s lawyer stated “Although he, Burkley, signed the death certificate of President Kennedy in Dallas, he had never been interviewed and he has information
in the Kennedy assassination indicating that others besides Oswald may have participated”. Despite the letter to them, Burkley was never called nor officially interviewed by any government agency, nor the HSCA.
The ARRB also exposed another secret problem: the legitimacy of the autopsy photos of the brain. During Wecht’s visit to the NA, he noticed that the brain had appeared in the photographs to be completely intact, which was impossible. The Zapruder film shows that the skull is exploding and spraying copious amounts of brain matter.
( On the back of the limo, towards the motorcycle policemen, and Governor Connally mentions the fact that brain matter flew all over the back of the limo…including himself and Nellie).
As well as witnesses to the shooting, who were standing extremely close.
Mrs. Kennedy handed a part of the brain to the chief of anesthesia at Parkland, Floyd Riebe a photographer at Bethesda, testified,
“Less than half the brain was there”. on and on, many related the information that the President’s brain had been blown out and that there was much missing. FBI agent Francis O’Neill, who was present at Bethesda, for the autopsy was shown the photographs and testified, that they were inaccurate.
“This looks almost like a complete brain.” he stated.
(Though at Parkland there seems to have been more of the brain present within the skull than when the body finally was given the autopsy at Bethesda?)
The official autopsy report documents the weight of the President’s brain to be fifteen hundred grams, which is heavier than the average, complete human brain. In 1998 John Stringer, the lead autopsy photographer also examined the photograph.
“He told the Washington Post that the current pictures are not his, and do not resemble anything he saw the night of the autopsy.”
This is very important because it shows that the Presidents assassination
evidence has been tampered with.
“Someone does not want the truth to be told. Who that person or persons are and what their motives may have been, I have no idea”.
“When I was a young man I believed that the Kennedy assassination would one day be solved and that the truth would be revealed. As I enter my seventh decade on this Earth, I now have serious doubts. The only way this case will ever be solved is through re-examination of the physical and medical evidence. Every day that goes by, the evidence deteriorates. If the brain does exist I doubt it still has any evidentiary value. And I am willing to bet every dollar that I possess that the Kennedy family and the federal government will never allow the body of President Kennedy to be exhumed for a second autopsy”.
When Governor Connally died there was a slight window of opportunity to gain new evidence, and Dr.Wecht along with a group of forensic experts and physicians petitioned US attorney general Janet Reno, to have the bullet fragments removed from his body and tested, they then would have been able to tell if they were from CE 399. Surprising to them Mrs. Reno did write to the Connally family and asked permission. However the family refused, and the bullet fragments along with possibly our last opportunity for finding the truth were buried..
Despite his doubts that he will learn the entire truth in his lifetime.
“There are legitimate efforts underway that are utilizing advances in science and technology to shed light on the mystery.”
Dr.D.Thomas who is an expert in the study of acoustical evidence,
made a dramatic presentation in, Pittsburgh in 2003 at a JFK Symposium,
hosted by Dr.Wecht.
Using photographs, the Zapruder film, and the Dallas Police audio recording his research and analysis showed that there were 5 shots fired in less than 9 seconds. At least two from the grassy knoll area, he explained to the panel. Stating that the evidence indicates, the bullets that were fired probably came from a .30 caliber weapon. At that time, the most popular weapon available was a .30 caliber Winchester.30-30 rifle.
His findings are quite ironic as a Dallas police officer radioed an alert at 12.45 pm stating “The wanted person in this, is a slender white male, about thirty five feet ten, one sixty five, carrying what looked like to be a .30-30 or some type of Winchester.”
The evidence, at every turn, does not add up in the Kennedy assassination,
to a lone assassin. Everywhere Dr.Wecht looks the evidence does point to an effort to keep the American public from knowing the truth.
Evidence missing, witnesses asked to and falsifying affidavits, testimony dramatically altered and documents manipulated.
“What happened in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, was an effort by two or more people to kill the President of the United States. What has happened since has been a conspiracy to hide the truth.
The result of the two was nothing short of a coup d’e’tet”.
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GREAT NEWS FINALLY WILSON'S WORK THANK YOU JACK .ARE ANY OF HIS STUDIES INCLUDED IN THE BOOK....DID THE AUTHOR GET POSSESSION OF THEM..WOULD YOU KNOW ?? .BEST B..
Most of Tom's studies (except the ones done for Oliver Stone) are in the book.
Tom's family gave the author access to Tom's materials.
Before Tom died, he had suggested to Phillips that they collaborate on a book.
Phillips felt an obligation to do so.
Even though the book was done in STRICT SECRECY, apparently the agency
was able to keep in close touch with its progress and is already working to
discredit it.
Jak
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION FINALLY HIS MATERIALS ...PERHAPS A MOD CAN ENABLE THE LINK I POSTED..IT IS TO THE TOM WILSON THREAD HERE ON THE EF..STARTED BY CHARLES DRAGO..IT WILL NOT WORK FOR ME..B..
KATHY THANKS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.IT KEPT WORKING FOR ME BUT NOT WHEN I POSTED IT IN THE REPLY HERE??
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GREAT NEWS FINALLY WILSON'S WORK THANK YOU JACK .ARE ANY OF HIS STUDIES INCLUDED IN THE BOOK....DID THE AUTHOR GET POSSESSION OF THEM..WOULD YOU KNOW ?? .BEST B..
Most of Tom's studies (except the ones done for Oliver Stone) are in the book.
Tom's family gave the author access to Tom's materials.
Before Tom died, he had suggested to Phillips that they collaborate on a book.
Phillips felt an obligation to do so.
Even though the book was done in STRICT SECRECY, apparently the agency
was able to keep in close touch with its progress and is already working to
discredit it.
Jak
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION FINALLY HIS MATERIALS ...PERHAPS A MOD CAN ENABLE THE LINK I POSTED..IT IS TO THE TOM WILSON THREAD HERE ON THE EF..STARTED BY CHARLES DRAGO..IT WILL NOT WORK FOR ME..B..
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GREAT NEWS FINALLY WILSON'S WORK THANK YOU JACK .ARE ANY OF HIS STUDIES INCLUDED IN THE BOOK....DID THE AUTHOR GET POSSESSION OF THEM..WOULD YOU KNOW ?? .BEST B..
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thank you Blair no offense meant none taken and heavens not all agree nor I amongst all , to each there own makes this all continue...forever ?? hopefully not..perhaps one day then we can all go home and get back to other pursuits and interests and sell all the books and retain back much more room within our abodes for ourselves...b..
JIM I FORGOT YOU ARE VERY WELCOME A FEW MORE WHATEVERS FOR YOUR FILE...B..
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thank you Blair no offense meant none taken and heavens not all agree nor I amongst all , to each there own makes this all continue...forever ?? hopefully not..perhaps one day then we can all go home and get back to other pursuits and interests and sell all the books and retain back much more room within our abodes for ourselves...b..
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Bernice,
thank you very much.
thanks blair i am EXTREMLY Aware.i have bad hands arms and shoulders and neck from osteo and it is much easier for me when i get into one of these threads for repeat postings to do so with the caps locks on....it goes along with the ....aw those ole grey bones on one old grey mare hopefully not you as time goes by but??perhaps you will see ..take good care B
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PETER ...UPDATE FURTHER UPLOADS.. WHETHER ONE CHOOSES TO OR NOT TO BELIEVE IN THE FILM AND OR PHOTO STUDIES THERE IS MUCH OF VALUE AND INFORMATION WITHIN THE STUDIES OR ONE CAN STAY IN THE DARK THEIR CHOICE.....IMO THERE IS MUCH SMOKE THERE AND THE REASON SUCH HAS ALWAYS BEEN ATTACKED AND PUT DOWN...I THINK THEY DOEST PROTEST TOO MUCH...SUCH AS FROM SHAKESPEARE SCENARIO WHERE PARTY A WAS MAKING TOO BIG A FUSS IN AND FRAMING PARTY B.....A WHO SPOKE UP TOO LONG AND TOO LOUDLY IN TRYING TO FRAME THE INNOCENT MAN B KNOWING ALL THE WHILE HE A WAS THE GUILTY PARTY..AND CONNECTED TO THE OTHERS AS WELL.......BTW RICH AND SHELBY'S SON HAS NOW FULLY RECOVERED , GOOD NEWS ...TAKE CARE All.....b..
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Dr John's are now finished. David Healy's are next up.
Rich
ZAPRUDER FAKERY: John Costella interview
ZAPRUDER FAKERY: Jack White interview Part 1
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SORRY I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH ENABLING THE LINKS ...
My !@#$%^&& lap is pathetic...Rich
p.s if anyone has any problem in finding the videos in order in search on you tube LIKE CRAIG SIMPLY type in Zapruder fakery MANY OTHERS ALSO POP UP...GEE...
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AGAIN MORE GREY CELLS UNACCOUNTED FOR,,, :huh:IT'S BEEN MANY MANY YEARS THE CORRECT SHAKESPEARE IS. SO THEY SAY...but the actual quote is, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." It's spoken by Hamlet's mother Gertrude as she watches a play (devised by Hamlet to make her squirm a little...) about a man who kills his brother and marries the widow -- essentially what's just happened in her own life, she being the widow. In the play, the woman is defending herself against accepting responsibility for her unsavory actions (marrying her dead husband's brother). Gertrude is basically saying that she would be a lot more believable if she weren't so vocal about her innocence. Or, the more you try to talk your way out of it, the less people will believe you.B... 
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PETER ...UPDATE FURTHER UPLOADS.. WHETHER ONE CHOOSES TO OR NOT TO BELIEVE IN THE FILM AND OR PHOTO STUDIES THERE IS MUCH OF VALUE AND INFORMATION WITHIN THE STUDIES OR ONE CAN STAY IN THE DARK THEIR CHOICE.....IMO THERE IS MUCH SMOKE THERE AND THE REASON SUCH HAS ALWAYS BEEN ATTACKED AND PUT DOWN...I THINK THEY DOEST PROTEST TOO MUCH...SUCH AS FROM SHAKESPEARE SCENARIO WHERE PARTY A WAS MAKING TOO BIG A FUSS IN AND FRAMING PARTY B.....A WHO SPOKE UP TOO LONG AND TOO LOUDLY IN TRYING TO FRAME THE INNOCENT MAN B KNOWING ALL THE WHILE HE A WAS THE GUILTY PARTY..AND CONNECTED TO THE OTHERS AS WELL.......BTW RICH AND SHELBY'S SON HAS NOW FULLY RECOVERED , GOOD NEWS ...TAKE CARE All.....b..
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Dr John's are now finished. David Healy's are next up.
Rich
ZAPRUDER FAKERY: John Costella interview
ZAPRUDER FAKERY: Jack White interview Part 1
ZAPRUDER FAKERY: Jack White interview Part 2
ZAPRUDER FAKERY 1 - James Fetzer Part 1
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Bernice,
It sounds as if this may be the one Jim is describing.
it certainly does da chrisman dude it again.....
MANY THANKS..FROM WHAT FILM CHRIS.. ??chris
Thanks Bernice, for the pics of OZ in front of the ITM.The film i refer to has OZ handing a leaflet to a DCM coming from the left of the screen to the right in front of the light pole. Seemingly a normal passerby.
And maybe he is.
But he looks a lot like the DCM in Dealy Plaza.
He is not shown in any of the pics you posted.
Looking at the pic showing the ITM, the film camera would have been located to the right of the doors pointing at the corner capturing OZ walking towards the light pole to give a leaflet to a DCM coming from across the street and just getting up onto the curb and walking out of the shot.
Maybe its nothing.
Thanks again for the pics.
jim
YOUR WELCOME JIM..IS THIS THE RUSH FILM THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF OR ?? ASTHERE WERE TWO TAKEN BY TOURISTS AND 3 BY WDSU TV..IS IT ON THE YOU TUBE AND OR AVAILABLE..HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE FRAMES BUT I DO NOT SEE HIM I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY AS YOU DESCRIBE HIM STEPPING UP ON THE CURB AND LHO HANDING HIM A LEAFLET..I WILL EMAIL A CONTACT ONE NEVER KNOWS......BUT........BEST B..
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Louis Steven Witt : Umbrella Man
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
The CIA's Failures
By Spencer Ackerman
This article appeared in the July 14, 2008 edition of The Nation.
June 26, 2008 http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080714/ackerman
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