David Von Pein

Then why are you doing it?

Question for Michael Hogan: How many "Oswald Was Guilty Of Killing Tippit Or Fleeing The Murder Scene With A Gun In Hand Immediately After The Killing" witnesses would it take to make you say: Oswald did it? 15? 20? 25? Or 35 witnesses? There are about 13 already. Were ALL 13 witnesses re: Tippit's murder coerced? That's just not a reasonable thing to believe. And then when you add in the Doughty/Dhority/Davis bullet shells (not even counting the Poe shells)--then Oswald's guilt is fixed in granite. Or don't you think Oswald had on him in the theater the V510210 gun that deposited those Doughty/Dhority/Davis shells on 10th St.? If you believe Oswald had V510210 on him in the theater, you cannot possibly set Oswald free for J.D. Tippit's murder. It's really as simple as that, Michael.

I didn't fully understand what you were saying about "stopping & starting" previously. So, you are now implying that the CLOCK was stopped in the middle of a journey that encompassed a mere 0.85 of a mile?? That's ridiculous. Why on Earth would anyone who wasn't in an iron lung need to stop and take a break on such a short trip? Where on Earth did you get such a silly idea? Who told you the 11-minute trip included BREAKS (plural?!); he needed more than ONE break on his across-the-desert trip of a whopping 0.85 of a mile, is that what you're saying? That's stupid. It's utter nonsense. It never happened.

LOL. Oh, sure. His face was bloodied and "smashed up" to an absolute pulp by those evil DPD bastards, wasn't it Lee? I can hardly tell that it's Oswald at all here, his face is so pulp-like. Get real: So is yours. I can see through you like a great-big ol' sheet of Reynold's Wrap.

Thank you for your concise and straightforward reply, Dean. I appreciate it. Lots of times I can't get a CTer to answer the simple basic questions like those. BTW, when I constantly say "ABO" or Anybody But Oswald, I'm referring to the people who truly think Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy AND didn't shoot Tippit either. My ABO references also refer to people who believe Oswald was a part of some "plot", but he never fired a shot at EITHER Kennedy or Tippit. And there are a lot of those type of CTers on the Internet. Way more than exist in the general population, Dean, as this 2003 ABC poll easily demonstrates, with only 7% of the 1,031 respondents thinking Oswald did NOT pull the trigger on JFK: http://www.pollingreport.com/news2.htm#Kennedy Well, to tell you the truth, Dean, I really haven't seen you post very much substantive material since my arrival here on 8/2/10. It seems like most of your posts are very short, and many of them consist of no words at all, merely this: So, I guess I've missed most of your posts that deal with any of the facts or details of the case. Sorry.

Huh? Sounds like you're implying that the people who did it in 11 minutes were STOPPING along the way to Tenth. (Am I missing something here?) They STOPPED, then started again...and still made it in 11 minutes? How does that HURT the bottom-line "11 minute" clocking of the journey, Lee? Please enlighten me. (And I just took a Helen Markham pill...so please go slowly.) The fact is the trip could be made to 10th St. in about 11 minutes. You, however, like the longer timelines, as all CTers in the ABO clique do. But what you want to be true couldn't possibly matter less. If it can be done in 11 minutes, it can be done in 11 minutes. -Mark VII- You can always still pretend Oswald was being impersonated on Tenth Street. The "impersonation" crappola is always a good "fall back" position for Oswald defenders anyway. Right, Lee F.?

Well, tell me straight out Dean, Are you a member of the popular Internet "ANYBODY BUT OSWALD" club?

Most conspiracy theorists on the Internet (and on Anybody-But-Oswald Radio, hosted by pathetic Mack-basher Len Osanic) love to perpetuate myths about Mr. Mack. They call him every name in the book, and for some silly reason they seem to think he has totally ABANDONED all thoughts of possible/potential conspiracy in the JFK assassination. It's just not true. Just because Mr. Mack can easily see what is so obviously true -- Lee Oswald took his rifle to work on November 22 and shot some people with it from the sixth floor -- many CTers seem to feel this automatically makes Gary a person who deserves nothing but scorn and verbal abuse. It's sickening to hear Mr. Mack being called the derogatory names he has been called on the Internet over the last several years. Gary Mack is a treasure, IMO. He is a walking encyclopedia on the JFK assassination (particularly when it comes to things dealing with the TSBD, Dealey Plaza, and other Dallas sites connected to the events of 11/22/63). He is always very cordial and forthcoming with ANY evidence and information he has come across--whether it be "LN"-leaning information or "CT"-leaning. Many people owe Gary Mack YEARS' worth of apologies. (IMHO.)

C'mon, Michael, you should be able to figure out Markham's "I didn't recognize anyone" testimony there. Mrs. Markham was obviously not the sharpest crayon in the Crayola Big Box of 64 with the built-in sharpener (or the newer "Big Box" of 96). I think we all know that. (And that isn't meant to be a shot at Helen Markham. It's just the way it seems to be.) Markham's testimony that Michael Hogan has cited above is, indeed, one great-big mess. It's actually quite hilarious now. But I don't imagine Joe Ball had a smile on his face when questioning Mrs. M. Yes, Markham says she had never "seen" any of the men in the line-up before. But we also know she picked Oswald out of the lineup and positively said that LHO was Tippit's killer. She even started to shake and cry the minute Oswald entered the lineup room. She knew who the killer was right away. But when Markham said she didn't "know" or "recognize" anybody in the police lineup, what I think she meant is that she had not been ACQUAINTED with anyone in the lineup at any time in her life. She was confused by Ball's questions. But, as mentioned, Helen wasn't an Einstein as far as intelligence goes either. Which, of course, is no doubt part of the reason that CTers feel so comfortable in dismissing her positive identification of Oswald. Ergo, CTers feel she was a dumb box of rocks who wouldn't know one murderer from another. But even if we toss Markham's IDing of LHO in the ash can, what are CTers going to do with the other TWELVE or so witnesses who IDed the same man (Oswald) as either Tippit's killer or the ONE & ONLY PERSON fleeing the scene with a gun in his hands? And Ted Callaway wasn't any Helen Markham either (referring to basic intelligence). I think even CTers will agree that Mr. Callaway was a pretty smart cookie. FYI -- MARKHAM & CALLAWAY VIDEOS: MARKHAM CALLAWAY

Oswald wasn't wearing any jacket while on McWatters' bus on 11/22, Lee. You know that. And he wasn't wearing any jacket in Whaley's cab either. Whaley was mistaken (times three, incredibly). He said at one point that Oswald had TWO or THREE jackets on. That's silly. We know Oswald entered the roominghouse sans any jacket. Housekeeper Earlene Roberts said he was in shirt sleeves when entering, and zipping a jacket when leaving. Bottom Line --- William Whaley positively IDed Lee Oswald as his 11/22 cab passenger. And he wasn't just looking at CLOTHING. He IDed the man from his face. To think that a jacket (or two--or three; LOL) trumps a positive identification of facial features is just not logical. Sorry, CTers of the world, but it isn't.

The trip from 1026 Beckley to the Tippit murder scene has been done in about 11 minutes, Lee. You know that. And the most important re-creations are the ones that can determine (if possible) the MINIMUM amount of time that these things can be done in -- like the cab re-enactments. We've got two conflicting times, yes. No doubt about that. We've got a nine-minute trip and a 5.5-minute trip. But since we know beyond all doubt that the trip CAN be made in 5.5 minutes, why on Earth would the Warren Commission assume that the NINE-minute trip is more reasonable, even though they also knew darn well that maybe Oswald and Whaley made the cab trip in just 5.5 minutes? Another LNer at another forum pointed out a similar line of thought regarding the re-creations of Oswald's alleged movements when he went from the sixth-floor Sniper's Nest to the second-floor lunch room. The other LNer made a good point in asking (in essence): Why in the world didn't the WC and FBI do a reconstruction of Oswald's movements AT THE FASTEST SPEED POSSIBLE by Secret Service agent John Joe Howlett (who is the SS man who performed two such re-creations in the TSBD in 1964 for the Warren Commission)? But the WC and Howlett didn't perform a "FASTEST TIME POSSIBLE" re-creation. If they had, Howlett would certainly have been able to shave quite a few seconds off of his two "walking" times. Howlett did one reconstruction at a "normal walk", which was 78 seconds; and he performed another re-creation at a "fast walk", which only shaved four seconds off his time, with the "fast walk" re-creation clocking in at 74 seconds. But an out-and-out RUNNING re-creation would have resulted, quite obviously, in a much quicker time on the stopwatch -- probably well under 60 seconds. But, even though the WC did not perform such a "fastest time possible" test, Howlett (even while WALKING) was able to get to the second floor in only 78 seconds, which was a few seconds ahead of Marrion Baker's average of 82.5 seconds for his two re-creations of his November 22 movements. I wonder why more conspiracy theorists never bother to take note of the raw FACTS that I just mentioned in my last paragraph? (Maybe it's because such raw FACTS would shoot to hell their silly notion that they've embraced for decades--i.e., the notion/myth that Oswald could not possibly have made it from the Sniper's Nest to the lunchroom in under two minutes.)

All three of those "fall back" positions are perfectly reasonable. You only mock them because you HAVE NO REASONABLE ANSWERS TO COMBAT THEM. Your silly Anybody-But-Oswald theory requires the coordination of dozens upon dozens (maybe hundreds) of people, cutting across all walks of life (both civilians and otherwise), working in concert to frame your innocent, snow-white patsy named Lee Harvey. So, now the bus ticket is a plant too. Great. What's next? Oswald's brown shirt which was consistent with the rifle's butt-plate fibers? Was that planted right on his back on Nov. 22? BTW, please prove to the world that a paper bus transfer that was in a person's shirt pocket MUST be mutilated beyond recognition after a brief scuffle with police officers in a theater. I'd like to see that proof. If you ABO nutjobs weren't so predictable....you'd still be predictable (and really, really silly, to boot).

You obviously cannot read. Because David Belin fully explains at 6 H 434 (below) that the 17:45 timing was the "LONG WAY AROUND ROUTE". Taking a more direct route (plus moving a little faster than the "AVERAGE WALKING PACE" that was utilized during the Commission's 17:45 trip) would have shaved considerable time off of that 17-minute journey. Who's cherry-picking now, Lee? You seem to leave out quite a few important addendums when talking about the evidence (like Belin's "Long Way Around Route" verbiage).

He came as close to it as possible. Plus, Whaley positively IDed Oswald as the person who rode beside him in the front seat of his taxi on 11/22. So, Lee Farley either thinks Whaley was, indeed, a big fat xxxx---or, Lee thinks Whaley was just honestly mistaken when he picked Oswald out of a police line-up.

Simple, Bill. The reason was very likely two-fold on Oswald's part: LHO didn't want the cab driver to know exactly where he lived. And #2 (which is even a better reason IMO), he wanted to see if any police or strangers were lurking near 1026 Beckley. After all, he had just killed the President, and he had to know that the cops would be hot on his trail very soon. Yes, he could, of course, have checked the immediate area around his roominghouse for cop cars and "strangers", etc., and then have Whaley let him out just a few yards beyond the roominghouse, which would have made the walk back to his room much shorter. But he didn't do that. And since nobody can read his mind on this issue, we'll never know for sure exactly why Oswald did all of the things he did on November 22. But we know he DID do them. And: Oswald also knew that nobody at the TSBD had his Beckley address, so that fact would buy him some extra time to go get his revolver (and, no, I don't know why he would not have taken his Smith & Wesson revolver with him to work on 11/22; the reason there, IMO, is likely because he would have needed to take the revolver into work at the Depository Building TWICE [and transport the gun in Wes Frazier's car TWICE too], because of his unusual Thursday trip to Irving; perhaps he thought Frazier might see it and start asking questions, with Frazier possibly putting 2 & 2 together and then saying something to somebody about LHO having a gun; I really don't know). I also think it's quite possible that Oswald just simply forgot his revolver when he left for work on Thursday, the 21st. His plan to murder JFK was, indeed, slipshod and half-assed in some ways. And it certainly reeks of being "last minute" (or nearly so, relatively-speaking). But, hey, it's hard to argue with success, isn't it? He achieved his primary goal of killing the President, despite a slipshod getaway plan. Too many people criticize the way Oswald did things on Nov. 21 and 22, 1963. But, as mentioned, it's hard to knock perfection. And Oswald achieved "perfection", from his point-of-view -- he assassinated the person he was attempting to assassinate. BTW, Oswald was driven only THREE blocks past his roominghouse, Bill. Not five. LHO had Whaley drop him off in the 700 block of N. Beckley, instead of travelling all the way to the 500 block, which LHO originally told Whaley was his destination.

Lee, Your argument about the cab re-enactments is nonsense (of course). WHALEY HIMSELF said the second re-enactment took between 5 and 6 minutes. Those words came out of WHALEY'S own mouth. I have no idea why one re-enactment supposedly took 9 minutes (according to Whaley), while another one took only 5.5 minutes. But the fact is: the 4/8/64 re-enactment took 5.5 minutes--and WHALEY HIMSELF VERIFIED IT via his WC testimony. Therefore, the trip from the Greyhound bus station to Beckley & Neely could definitely be driven in less than 9 minutes (and even less than 6). Or are we supposed to believe that Whaley is a xxxx now too? Is there any end to the number of people the conspiracy theorists are willing to call liars? Any end at all? (Just curious.) Yeah, I've been expecting to hear that stupid theory from one of you Anybody-But-Oswald nuts pretty soon. Thanks for not disappointing me, Lee boy. As usual, per the ABO crowd, everything is fake, including the item pictured below, which was found in LHO's pocket. (Prob'ly planted there, right Lee?) And Farley has to paint his precious patsy as a xxxx in the "bus" regard too, because Oswald himself admitted to getting on a bus after leaving the Depository on November 22nd. The cops probably lied about the patsy saying that, right Lee? Yeah, that must be it. That's a nice all-encompassing pack of worthless liars you've got there -- from virtually all the witnesses (e.g., Whaley, V. Davis, B. Davis, Scoggins, Callaway, Markham, Brennan, and a multitude of others), to the DPD, to the FBI, to the WC, to the HSCA. All liars right down the line. Right, Lee boy?

Yes, cab driver William W. Whaley did say it took "nine minutes" to perform one of the re-enactments from Greyhound to Beckley and Neely [at 2 H 259]. But you're leaving out the other re-enactment, which was performed on the same day Whaley gave additional testimony in front of the Warren Commission (April 8, 1964). In that second re-enactment with Whaley and Warren Commission counsel member David W. Belin present, the cab ride was reconstructed from the Greyhound bus terminal to the intersection of Beckley Avenue and Neely Street in Oak Cliff (which is where Whaley said Oswald got out of the taxicab). That 4/8/64 re-creation was timed by stopwatch at 5 minutes and 30 seconds [see 6 H 434 and WCR Page 163. DAVID BELIN -- "When we went out there today, when we started the stopwatch from the Greyhound bus station to the 700 block of North Beckley, do you know about how many minutes that was on the stop watch?" WILLIAM WHALEY -- "A little more than 5 minutes, between 5 and 6 minutes." MR. BELIN -- "Would your trip that day, on November 22, have been longer or shorter, or about the same time as the trip we took today?" MR. WHALEY -- "It would be approximately the same time, sir, give or take a few seconds, not minutes. Because the man drove just about as near to my driving as possible. We made every light that I made, and we stopped on the lights that I stopped on." MR. BELIN -- "Let the record show that the stopwatch was 5 minutes and 30 seconds from the commencement of the ride to the end of the ride." RELATED LINK WILLIAM WHALEY VIDEOS

Oh, heavens no. The best evidence trumps a timeline snafu any day of the week. You know that, Lee. Oswald killed Tippit. Stamp it MARK VII. I don't think that's right. Benavides was the first person to use the radio. He was clueless about its operation and then Bowley took over. Are you saying the proper chronology was BOWLEY (unsuccessful), then BENAVIDES (unsuccessful), then BOWLEY again (successful)? That's not accurate at all. BTW, Bowley's call was at 1:17:41 (Myers; "With Malice"; p.92). Benavides' "mashing" started at 1:16 and continued for more than 90 seconds. Also: Relating to a post by Jim DiEugenio earlier --- Benavides stated in a 1967 CBS-TV interview that the time he waited before getting out of his truck much much shorter than "a few minutes" (which is his quote from his WC testimony). He told Eddie Barker of CBS that he gave the gunman just enough time to get around the corner and then he jumped out of his truck after just "a second or two" and went over to Tippit's body. Take the '67 version with a grain of salt if you like--but that's what Domingo said in 1967. And he also said that he was positive Lee Oswald was the killer. (Take another grain of Morton's there too, if desired.)

More stuff that Adams has wrong (the list is almost endless if you listen to the full 5-part Cleveland radio interview): He thinks it was Rufus Youngblood who climbed aboard JFK's car right after the shooting in Dealey Plaza. He seemed to imply that the original motorcade route would have taken the car down Elm St. through Dallas, instead of Main (at least that's what he said). He implies that the back of JFK's head is missing in the existing autopsy pictures. Goofy. He claims that NONE of the Secret Service agents gave any statements to anyone in officialdom. He evidently isn't aware that every SS agent in Kennedy's detail wrote up an official report for the SS files, plus several agents appeared before the WC--e.g., Clint Hill, Roy Kellerman, and Bill Greer. Adams claims that nobody bothered to even check the bullets that came out of J.D. Tippit's body to see if they could be matched to Oswald's revolver. He thinks it wasn't done at all, despite the testimony of Joe Nicol and Bob Frazier...with Nicol even stating that one of the bullets could be matched to LHO's gun. He claims that somebody had to approach Jackie Kennedy and ask her to relinquish the piece of JFK's head that she carried to Parkland...instead of Jackie herself voluntarily giving the head piece to Dr. Pepper Jenkins (which, of course, is what happened). And, of course, we're treated to the usual CT excrement about how Oswald's shooting feat was absolutely impossible, and how it's never been duplicated by anybody on the mortal coil. And then we a goof who calls in the radio show to say that he and his Marine sniper team couldn't come anywhere near Oswald's feat, with the caller saying that he couldn't do it in less than SIXTEEN seconds. And the best his commanding officer could accomplish was TWELVE seconds. (Great sniper team there. Irene Ryan of The Beverly Hillbillies could have done it in under ten seconds--easy.) And there's the usual stuff about how Oswald's rifle was a piece of junk. And the lie about how Oswald didn't kill Tippit either. Etc., etc. Don Adams, in effect, is clueless.

For a lot of laughs (in addition to the many factual errors on his website), tune in to ex-FBI agent Don Adams' 5-part radio interview on this webpage: http://adamsjfk.com/Home.html In Part 2 of the program, Adams tells all kinds of falsehoods, such as the howler about how Oswald would have had to criss-cross the Book Depository building a total of THREE different times in order to get from the sixth-floor "loft" (as Adams calls it) to the second-floor "break room" (as Adams calls the lunchroom)! Adams actually seems to think that Oswald had to cross the entire length of the building THREE times--once to hide the rifle; then another criss-cross to get to the stairs (totally untrue); and then a third crossing of the building in order to reach the lunchroom (also a lie). This guy doesn't know the most basic facts about the assassination or Oswald's movements.

Oh, good gosh, no. That's speculation. Nobody can possibly timestamp that event as being precisely "1:04". That's crazy. Can't be done. The time could easily vary a few minutes from day to day. (And you just accused ME of doing a lot of speculating.) Before you jump on me in yet another pot/kettle fashion, let me say this: Yes, my "1:14" timing for the Tippit shooting is SPECULATION too. I'll admit that. And I think Dale Myers would too. (He's got it down to "1:14:30", in fact.) But nobody can KNOW with 100% certainty if it was 1:13 or 1:14 or 1:15, etc. Vince Bugliosi thinks that 1:12 is the best guess for the time of Tippit's shooting. So, even among LNers, there are some slight disagreements, although not by very many minutes (because of Benavides' 1:16 radio call attempt). But, just like Oswald's movements, nobody had a clock marked "Coordinated Universal Time" attached to Helen Markham's ass when she left for her job on November 22nd. My last post before this one was a really good one. You should re-read it, Mr. Farley -- especially this part: "But to discount A DOZEN eyewitnesses and the ballistics evidence, which are things that conclusively prove Oswald's guilt in Tippit's slaying, in favor of a few minutes' discrepancy in a witness' timeline....is just plain silly." -- DVP; 08/20/10

The WC was probably slightly off on that timeline, yes. But keep in mind that the WC said that all times were "approximate". Nobody can know exactly when Oswald left the roominghouse. It could have been earlier than 1:00, and I think it probably was earlier than 1:00. And nobody can know exactly when he ENTERED the roominghouse either. All we can do is guess. Nobody was following LHO with a stopwatch affixed to his tail. But even if he did leave his room at 1:03, he still had enough time to get to Tenth St. by 1:14 or so. And 1:14 is positively the best guess for when the shooting happened (see Myers' "With Malice"; p.86). Various people have done re-enactments of the trip to Tenth St., and it's been done is as little as 11 minutes. And as I've said, there's no way that Oswald would have had any reason to be in that small room of his for any 3-4 minutes that day. There wasn't a bathroom in that room. It was a large closet. You could barely swing a cat in it. And Earlene Roberts herself said that he was only in his room long enough to get a coat and put it on. That's all. And she extrapolated that to "3 or 4 minutes". No way. And in the TV movie "Ruby & Oswald", it was proven via a re-creation that Oswald's actions of grabbing a gun and putting on a jacket and then exiting the room can be done in 22 seconds. So, what else was LHO doing in there for the remaining 3.5 minutes, if Roberts' timeline is correct? He wasn't taking a dump, because as I said there's certainly no toilet in that small room. The CTers make a giant issue out of the narrow timeline. But in actuality, it SHOULD be pretty narrow, because Oswald very likely wasn't loitering on Tenth Street or on Beckley before he reached Tenth. So a narrow timeline, with little wiggle room, is what I would expect. But to discount A DOZEN eyewitnesses and the ballistics evidence, which are things that conclusively prove Oswald's guilt in Tippit's slaying, in favor of a few minutes' discrepancy in a witness' timeline....is just plain silly.

Yes.

Just as I said, you've got a 6 to 10-minute delay in reporting the shooting if you want to go with the 1:06 or 1:10 timelines. That is not a reasonable delay, IMO. And "a few minutes", by any reasonable definition, would be fewer than ten. Ten would be "several". But you'll just call that nitpicking, so I won't go any further. And, as discussed earlier, I think we know how good people are at judging "minutes" -- they are generally lousy. And that fact is proven over and over again in just this JFK/Tippit case. Jim Altgens, when estimating the length of time for the shooting of JFK said that "all the shots were fired within the space of less than 30 seconds." (Well, I certainly hope so. Or else, Oliver Stone had better add a couple dozen more shots to his shooting scenario.) J.C. Price said there was a FIVE-MINUTE gap between shots in Dealey Plaza. (And I'm sure you love Price, because he was utilized by Mark Lane in RTJ.) And then there's the previously-discussed all-over-the-map timelines of Helen Markham -- from 1:06 to 1:30. And then there's the timing of the Tippit shooting by Virginia Davis -- she said it occurred "about 1:30" in her affidavit. BTW, Jim, it's T.F. Bowley, not "Bewley". Did Tony Summers really call him "Bewley" in his 1980 book? BTW #2 -- Care to explain away those two Davis bullet shells yet? I'm sure you can find a way to pretend those were planted by Doughty and Dhority, can't you? It's fairly obvious that Jim DiEugenio couldn't care less about the truth in the JFK assassination. His job is to find as many excuses as he can possibly find to avoid having to ever say "Oswald did it". Those three words are like poison to a CTer like Jimbo. Pure arsenic. Jim will now turn the tables and say my last sentence reeks of pot/kettle-ism, and that the words "conspiracy" and "Oswald is innocent" are poison to my lips. But he'll be wrong if he says that. And that's because my "Oswald did it" conclusion is a much more reasonable one than Jim's "Everything is fake" conclusion when it comes to examining the evidence in the murders of JFK and J.D. Tippit. I don't require EVERY last piece of evidence to be fake in this case in order to arrive at my conclusion. Jim, however, needs literally every piece of evidence to be tainted in order for his "ABO" views to be accurate. And, I ask sincerely -- is that a reasonable requirement?

If Tippit had really been shot at 1:06 (per Markham) or 1:10 (Bowley), this would mean that Benavides and Bowley stood around and waited SIX to TEN minutes before using Tippit's car radio to report the shooting. Per the DPD radio records, at 1:16 PM, somebody began "pumping" a police radio microphone for about 90 seconds. (This was obviously Benavides' botched attempt to call in on Tippit's radio.) Bowley then got through and told the dispatcher that a policeman had been shot. Bowley's call came through at 1:18, after Benavides had apparently been unsuccessful at working the radio for about 1.5 minutes. The 1:16-1:18 timing of the Benavides/Bowley radio calls indicates that the shooting very likely occurred just a very short time prior to 1:16. [see "With Malice" by Dale K. Myers; pp. 86-87.] But people like J. DiEugenio evidently want to believe that Benavides & Bowley just stood around picking lint out of their belly buttons for up to ten full minutes before getting into Tippit's car to use the radio. (And even a SIX-minute delay in reporting the murder is ludicrous too.) In short --- DiEugenio, as usual, is dead wrong. Lee Harvey Oswald killed J.D. Tippit at approximately 1:14 to 1:15 PM CST on 11/22/63, and the Dallas Police Department radio dispatch records (coupled with ordinary common sense and logic) fully support that timeline.