Paul Trejo

On 3/31/2018 at 7:12 PM, Jason Ward said:

...I'm going to offer weak inadmissible hearsay evidence only as a possible clue to consider and insist it proves nothing whatsoever.  The best it can do is point in the right direction.  What do you think of this snippet from Walt Brown's book?

---Walt Brown, Treachery in Dallas (1995), p. 189.

Mike Robinson is presented by Brown as a 14 year old boy inadvertently hearing a candid conversation in the DPD men's room on 22 November 1963.   As a police officer's son, he says he was downtown to watch the parade that day and naturally sought out his dad's office after the assassination....

Jason

Hi Jason,

Mike Robinson was not only the son of a DPD officer, but he also claims that he and his schoolmates personally knew J.D. Tippit, and they didn't like him.   But what was exciting was that they knew a cop who was killed right after JFK was killed, and the whole city of Dallas was in turmoil -- and so he and his pals rode their bikes to the DPD station.

He lived close by.   It makes logistical sense.

What Mike Robinson claims is that the DPD cop whom he heard confessing to the killing of JD Tippit was none other than Roscoe White -- the very same DPD cop whom Jack White claimed had provided the chin, neck, shoulders, lumpy right wrist and back-leaning stance of all of Lee Harvey Oswald's "Back Yard Photos" (BYP).   

What is also curious, is that Roscoe White's son, Ricky White, came out in 1993 with the claim that his father had confessed to his family that he had not only been a shooter at JFK that day, but that he also killed JD Tippit himself.

Roscoe White provides one of the most colorful instances of the CT that the Dallas Radical Right killed JFK.   His own son admits his father was a shooter -- and his own wife provided historians with a completely different BYP than anybody had ever seen before.

Mike Robinson's story is weird, yet what makes it weirder is that it fits so snugly into Ricky White's story.  It all suggests something that the Warren Commission would bend over backwards to deny -- that Oswald had ACCOMPLICES.

All best,
--Paul

21 hours ago, Roger DeLaria said:

One of the things that I remember while reading Treachery In Dallas, was when mentioning the DPD, he (paraphrasing) said "either DPD or someone in DPD uniforms". Could there have been ground crew/mechanics in DPD uniforms who were not DPD? 

Roger,

It's an interesting question.    In my opinion, however, there were plenty of Dallas Policemen who belonged to Radical Right groups in Dallas, who were ready to kill JFK, because of their political opinions about Patriotism.   If true Patriotism was Anticommunism, and if JFK was truly the leader (or a dupe) of the Communists, as the John Birch Society said, then killing JFK in Dallas would be an act of heroism -- certainly nothing to be ashamed of -- and certainly nothing to expect money for.

Mechanics (hired assassins) would have wanted large payments -- and this would risk blackmail in the future.    Sharpshooters -- like the Minutemen -- who would serve at no charge -- were obviously the far better choice.    By the way, the father of J.D. Tippit claimed that J.D. could shoot a butterfly in flight -- that's how good he was.   You rarely find "mechanics" that good.   Plus, such Minutemen would do it for the personal satisfaction.

All best,
--Paul

One of the reasons I liked Professor Walt Brown's book, Treachery in Dallas (1995), is because of his effort to push back against the CIA-did-it mentality.   That mentality is a prejudice that has overwhelmed the CT Community since the days of Mark Lane and Jim Garrison.   

Walt Brown does an excellent job.  His book is like an antidote to the overdose of CIA-did-it literature.   Yet even Professor Brown makes insufficient use of FBI documents in his landmark quest.

Jeff Caufield (2015) in his landmark work on the Walker-did-it CT, makes far better use of FBI documents.

Today, five months after the 10/26/2017 release of all of the remaining JFK documents by the US Government, we are in a better position than either Brown or Caufield.   Jason Ward leads the way, in my opinion.   I'm not flattering Jason -- I say that as an objective evaluation.

By carefully analyzing the WC testimonies of people in high positions in Dallas, along with new FBI documents from FOIA and JFK releases, this year promises to be the year in which American History will finally be fulfilled in its long and gruelling quest for the JFK Assassins.

I have high hopes for the current thread.   I appreciate your positive attention and support.

All best,
--Paul

16 hours ago, Thomas Graves said:

Paul,

You do realize, don't you, that Shelley's and Lovelady's later statements and testimonies were quite different from their first day's statements?

--  TG

Thomas,

Your opinion is that they were "quite different" so on this opinion you attempt to build a CT.

Yet the only "difference" is as I already said -- a matter of the Timing of Events that moved very quickly in the first 15 minutes after the shooting of JFK. 

The Events they describe match very well.   The Timing of those Events vary SLIGHTLY, which remains in the realm of the NORMAL.  Unless you can show different (after all these years) then this quest for a CT based on TSBD employees Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady remains as futile today as it was a half-century ago.

Now -- if you can some a connection to a DPD officer, and a possible occlusion of facts to protect some DPD officer -- then you might have something.   So far I see nothing unusual in the slightest.

Sincerely,
--Paul Trejo

From the perspective of the Walker-did-it CT, the main member that I fully agree with on this thread is David Von Pein.   

All of the TSBD employees told the truth to the WC, as they remembered it.   Not one of them outright lied.   Some were mistaken about timing, but that is normal under the circumstances (i.e. they were asked to testify months later).

To solve the JFK Assassination aporias, we must be finally willing -- after 55 years -- to recognize that it was (1) the Dallas Police Department heads; (2) select DPD detectives; (3) Sheriff Decker; (4) Dallas Deputies; (5) the Dallas FBI; (6) the Dallas Secret Service; (7) the Dallas Postmaster; and (8) anyone connected with General Walker, who outright lied.

Unless we focus on them, the JFK Assassination will remain as unsolved tomorrow as it was 55 years ago.   Put all this energy on the correct suspects!

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

Just to be clear, as I am still reading your dialogue with each other, none of this speculation is new, except perhaps to Jason. 

Though not Jewish by birth, I am considered culturally Jewish by myself and my lifelong and current Jewish friends. None of them would use the word Mishpucka, however one chooses to spell it, to mean Jewish crime family. It means extended family by blood. Please don’t throw around Wean’s pejorative use of that word around without first defining it as it is used by Jews, as opposed to its use by extreme anti-Semites like Wean.

Having made that point, one that I truly hope you humbly acknowledge, I wish to make another one - I have always found, AND HAVE STATED ON THIS FORUM MANY TIMES, the idea of an assassination attempt designed to be unsuccessful in killing JFK, to be subsequently be blamed on a Castro agent, was a perfect way to accomplish the goal of getting rid of Castro without having to kill a president. But the real plotters clearly had JFK’s death in mind, hence the carefully triangulated military style ambush of the motorcade. And Castro never did suffer that invasion.

Wean’s story breaks down, as Trejo knows well, because the proofs supposedly went down with a plane or some such thing, and of course because of his myopic and insane view of Jews. 

Honestly, I think it was the Right that did the deed. Always have. But I think they outsourced the kill team, and had friends in high places (JCS, CIA) who protected them because they agreed with them that JFK was a traitor, and who facilitated the operation by withdrawing support on the parade route, changing the autopsy location, withholding information from the WC, and giving the Press false info immediately and thereafter.

Paul - have you ever read info indicating that National Zeitung editor Gerhard Frey was a member of CMC? 

Paul B.,

Okay, you're grasping that my CT is still front and center here -- and that Jason is probably the first person on this Forum to come forward with even more evidence than I've provided over the past six years.   I have waited for somebody like Jason on this Forum for a long time.

As for the "Mishpucka" slur, Paul, I appreciate your ability to define this for us, culturally.   I thought it was an Anti-Semitic slur invented by Gareth Wean, but as you show, it is something like a Yiddish term (it's not Hebrew) to refer to members of an allegedly Jewish Mafia.  I had missed that part.

I'm not personally aware of your CT that there was a "False Flag" plot against JFK in Dallas, Paul B.   Would you kindly share a link of your first usage of the idea on the Forum?  (I know that's asking a lot, because I myself, with 6,200 posts, would find it very difficult to find an old post that somebody wanted to see.)   Or just estimate your first usage.

Wean's story breaks down because he had to twist the truth into a lie -- and so the alleged airplane crash is obvious balderdash.   Wean knew who killed JFK.   So did Sheriff Decker.  So did Senator John Tower.  I have no doubt in my mind.

OK, Paul B., you have a good mind.  Please do me a favor.  Please use your analytical skills to help this thread concentrate on Dallas and only Dallas, for a change of pace.  Let's look at the Dallas Police like never before.   Let's look at the Dallas Sheriff's office like never before.   Let's look at the people who controlled the crime scene, the evidence, the witnesses, the suspects, the families of the suspects -- all of it -- namely -- Dallas.

Finally, although I have read much of the theory of Mae Brussell, who first connected General Walker to Gerhard Frey in theory (not with documents), I don't know what the CMC is.  Is it related to the Walker-Oswald thread?

Best regards,
--Paul Trejo

10 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

10. It is utterly impossible for a murder suspect to take live bullets into a police station in 1963 and not have them discovered until hours later.

The idea that Oswald would still have live bullets anywhere on his person hours after his initial arrest is laughably ridiculous.

One can assume that police in 1963, when immediately confronting "armed and dangerous" suspects ( and in Oswald's very aggressive case of pulling a gun and actually pulling the trigger in his rough and tumble resistance fight with them in the theater) would perform a subsequent search of every part of Oswald's person ( did he have another weapon on him? ) after they subdued him.

Didn't the patrol car officers go into Oswald's back pocket to pull the wallet out at that early stage of his arrest?  Yet they didn't even search his other pockets let alone at least pat them? 

And wasn't another complete body and clothing search normal procedure upon first processing a resisting, gun pulling murder suspect into custody back then in any police department more structured than Mayberry RFD?

To think that live bullets in Oswald's pocket escaped discovery until just before a line up hours after he was processed into custody is preposterous, unless perhaps they were planted there?

Joe,

Welcome to the thread.   Your questions and observations are excellent.   These are the sort of questions that have been delayed for 55 years until the American Public could finally tolerate looking at them.  

The likelihood of planting all the evidence used against Oswald is, in my CT, sky high.

Therefore, Joe, what does it mean to YOU that DPD officer Sims claims to have found bullet shells on LHO, several hours after he had been arrested, booked and set in a jail cell?    It's an obvious fib, but why in the world would Sims fib about something like that?   What do YOU think was his motivation?

All best,
--Paul

On 3/30/2018 at 8:24 AM, Jason Ward said:

Hi Paul,

...Here's something that sticks out for me.

Howard Brennan gives his information about the 6th floor, and even pinpoints the snipers nest window, within minutes of the assassination.  So why aren't the cops at the snipers nest within minutes?   Somehow DPD is able to quickly broadcast Brennan's description of Oswald, (provided it seems by Brennan to Inspector Sawyer) but chooses to ignore that Brennan also pinpointed the 6th floor sniper's nest?   This doesn't make sense.   

Based on Brennan's eyewitness statement, law enforcement should have been on the 6th floor snipers nest by no later than 12:45.   Yet we are told they have to bumble around and accidentally find at 1:08 the location Brennan had pinpointed a half hour before?  Why the delay?   (also, who are the cops deputy Mooney passes going down the stairs while he is going up?)

I find the sudden appearance of Forrest Sorrels suspicious.  He shows up at the right time to process Brennan.

As evidence posted above in this thread tends to indicate Forrest Sorrels knew of threatening Minutemen activity in Dallas but did not warn the White House about it, I think he needs more scrutiny.

Jason 

YESS!

WC witnesses told DPD officers within minutes – possibly even seconds – of sighting suspicious activity on the TSDB 6^th floor.  DPD foot patrol were plentiful at the corner of Houston and Elm.   Brennan was not alone in that observation.   

All the DPD foot patrol on Houston and Elm told the WC that they saw nothing when they looked up at those windows, while many bystanders reported much activity up there!

You ask a GREAT question, Jason, namely, “Somehow DPD is able to quickly broadcast Brennan's description of Oswald…but chooses to ignore that Brennan also pinpointed the 6th floor sniper's nest?”

That cannot make sense -- so it was part of the JFK plot.  Based on Brennan's eyewitness statement, the DPD should have been on the Southeast corner of the 6^th floor TSBD within five minutes of the JFK murder.   It took them 40 minutes to find those bullets?   I don’t believe that -- more likely the bullets were planted there by Deputy Boone himself.  And if the bullets, then the rifle, too.

As Gerry Patrick Hemming told A,J. Weberman, the folly of Lee Harvey Oswald, handing over his rifle to a supposedly trustworthy person outside the TSBD on the early morning of 11/22/1963, sealed the case against him.   We see that even in the eyes of his own brother, Robert Oswald.

Finally, Jason, your suspicions of Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels are 100% justified in my CT.   He suddenly demanded to be driven to the TSBD after the JFK hit, but he has no explanation about why he selected the TSBD.  He just had to “be there” because he knew he would be needed.   He was.  Brennan’s story had to be picked apart until the Dallas deputies and cops had a chance to “finish” the alleged crime scene.

Finally, Jason, I applaud your original research in showing how James HOsty and Forrest Sorrels cooperated in preventing the Washington DC Secret Service ”PRS” from learning about threatening Minutemen activity in Dallas during the JFK visit there.

Please keep up the superb work.

All best,

--Paul

10 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

The pristine bullet found at Parkland and traceable to Oswald's rifle is an essential part of their case.   Maybe Curry and Decker are camped out at Parkland because someone has to plant the evidence?  You know, someone of eminence and authority who walks through off-limits areas of a hospital without being challenged?  

Jason

Hi Jason,

VERY INTERESTING.    This is a new slant on an old story.   Jim Garrison tried to pin this on Jack Ruby -- but as you say, Jason, because these spaces were off-limits to anybody except people with badges -- I think your theory is better than Garrison's on this point.

By the way, I do believe Seth Kantor's WC testimony when he said he saw Jack Ruby outside Parkland Hospital, trying to cozy up to the Dallas Police and the Press.   Yet I deny that Jack Ruby was the one who planted the "pristine bullet."   

There was no way Jack Ruby could get past security, because it was no longer just the DPD posting security, but it was mainly the Washington DC Secret Service.   No way Jack could get in.   Only people with badges were allowed. 

All best,

--Paul

On 3/30/2018 at 8:24 AM, Jason Ward said:

Hi Paul,

...Here's something that sticks out for me.

Howard Brennan gives his information about the 6th floor, and even pinpoints the snipers nest window, within minutes of the assassination.  So why aren't the cops at the snipers nest within minutes?   Somehow DPD is able to quickly broadcast Brennan's description of Oswald, (provided it seems by Brennan to Inspector Sawyer) but chooses to ignore that Brennan also pinpointed the 6th floor sniper's nest?   This doesn't make sense.   

Based on Brennan's eyewitness statement, law enforcement should have been on the 6th floor snipers nest by no later than 12:45.   Yet we are told they have to bumble around and accidentally find at 1:08 the location Brennan had pinpointed a half hour before?  Why the delay?   (also, who are the cops deputy Mooney passes going down the stairs while he is going up?)

I find the sudden appearance of Forrest Sorrels suspicious.  He shows up at the right time to process Brennan.

As evidence posted above in this thread tends to indicate Forrest Sorrels knew of threatening Minutemen activity in Dallas but did not warn the White House about it, I think he needs more scrutiny.

Jason 

YESS!

WC witnesses told DPD officers within minutes – possibly even seconds – of sighting suspicious activity on the TSDB 6^th floor.  DPD foot patrol were plentiful at the corner of Houston and Elm.   Brennan was not alone in his observations.   

All the DPD foot patrol on Houston and Elm told the WC that they saw nothing when they looked up at those windows, while many bystanders reported much activity up there!

You ask a GREAT question, Jason, namely, “Somehow DPD is able to quickly broadcast Brennan's description of Oswald…but chooses to ignore that Brennan also pinpointed the 6th floor sniper's nest?”

That cannot make sense -- so it was part of the JFK plot.  Based on Brennan's eyewitness statement, the DPD should have been on the Southeast corner of the 6^th floor TSBD within five minutes of the JFK murder.   It took them 40 minutes to find those bullets?   I don’t believe that for a minute.  The bullets were planted there by Deputy Boone himself; and if the bullets, then the rifle, too; that's my CT.

As Gerry Patrick Hemming told A,J. Weberman, the folly of Lee Harvey Oswald, handing over his rifle to a supposedly trustworthy person outside the TSBD on the early morning of 11/22/1963, sealed the case against him.   His own brother, Robert Oswald, said that he could not exonerate his brother because the DPD had his rifle. 

Finally, Jason, your suspicions of Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels are 100% justified in my CT.   He suddenly demanded to be driven to the TSBD after the JFK hit, but he could not tell the WC why he selected the TSBD?  He just 'had to be there' because he knew he would be needed?  Somebody called him.  Brennan’s story had to be picked apart until the Dallas deputies and cops had a chance to “finish” the alleged crime scene.

Finally, Jason, I applaud your original research in showing how FBI agent James Hosty and SS agent Forrest Sorrels cooperated in preventing the Washington DC Secret Service ”PRS” from learning about threatening Minutemen activity in Dallas during the JFK visit there.

Please keep up the superb work.

All best,

--Paul

1 hour ago, Jason Ward said:

Hi Paul,

I've read a little bit from Wean's book online. He says he pals around with Audie Murphy and Sheriff Decker and they have a clandestine meeting with a source in Ruidoso, NM.   Wean blames the assassination on the military-industrial complex who are largely the 'Mishpucka,' the Jewish-mafia who always yearn for war, right?   One of the hard things about this is that so many people probably have a true and essential part of the answer, but it too often gets lost in their own baggage and hunger for attention...

Hi Jason,

Right.  What Gareth Wean admitted before he died was that the "source" at Ruidoso, New Mexico, was none other than US Senator John Tower from Texas.   This puts a special spin on the story, IMHO.

All best,
Paul 

3 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

Provoking a war on Cuba with a false flag attack may or may not have not been the primary goal of the assassination.  But it makes a great recruiting point.   A lot of people were obsessed by Castro and might support the assassination if they thought it would cause a US invasion.  Selling the assassination as only a pretend assassination that would see no one killed is really palatable, I can see a good many mainstream conservatives not objecting.  The idea that most participants thought it was never meant to actually kill Kennedy explains a lot.

Jason

Hi Jason,

Yes, I can see that now.  It is possible (perhaps plausible) that General Walker used a "False Flag" rumor to recruit the "fence-sitters" on the project.  In this scenario, we would have three layers of Dallas Law Enforcement participation in the JFK Assassination plot:

(1) Direct participants (1%)
(2) "False flag participants" (4%)
(3) Support the Team no matter what happens (15%)
(4) Totally clueless (80%)

This reminds me that General Walker came out of military school in to West Point, and after graduating West Point in the late 1930,'s, entered the US Army Special Forces.   Then he entered WW2, where he became a battalion General.   Then he served in Taiwan before serving in Korea.  

In other words -- General Walker knew how to LEAD at every level of military and paramilitary maneuver.   Strategy was second nature to him.   He is underestimated.

All best,
--Paul

17 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

Hi Paul, 

It's my impression from the police testimony we've looked at so far that Capt Fritz is the showmaker.   I stumbled across a book you discussed here a few years ago, The Kennedy Mutiny.   From your summary of the book in this old thread, one point I can agree with in total certainty is that FBI agent James Hosty protected and hid the Minutemen in the leadup and aftermath of the assassination.  I've documented as much above.

Amazon has this book for a price of $200+....where can I get this book?

...and what about the author, Will Fritz?....this is a very strange coincidence in names!   He seems like he has an insight or evidence the rest of us lack; any way to work with him further?

Jason

Hi Jason,

I got this book through college Interlibrary Loan.   I suspect that your college library can also get it.    I found the OCLC by using WorldCat (OCLC #:52818037).

Also, I contacted Will Fritz, and he is a nice guy.   The curious thing is that his name really is William Fritz, and yet he is no relation at all to Will Fritz the Captain of the DPD Homicide Bureau.

As far as I can tell, he has no evidence that we lack -- although he has been digging where we are digging for a longer time.

His main source is evidently somebody named Gareth Wean -- have you seen this story?   The source of Wean's story is Sheriff Decker himself, says Wean.   The original JFK plot was a Dallas plot, said Decker -- among the Radical Right -- but it was a "False Flag" plot -- JFK was not supposed to be killed.

Wean is a mostly credible source, since he's a former US military and LAPD detective.   He would be a serious guy, except that he is so old-school that he thought it was OK to be an AntiSemite.  Wean's word for "Jewish" is "Mishpucka".   His books are full of that word.  It's nauseating to read about "a rich Hollywood Mishpucka."   As if he was fooling anybody.

Wean's book may be available online.  It's called, "There's a Fish in the Courthouse" (1996).   His original story goes back to 1971, say some, but I couldn't find that source.   For his "Fish" book, it's only the last chapter that speaks about Sheriff Bill Decker.

I was stunned to read that Jeff Caufield (2016) also considers Gareth Wean's story mostly favorably.  Really?   A "False Flag" plot on JFK?    Hijacked?  Jeff Caufield's book came out after my thread on "William Fritz", so I realized in late 2015 that Caufield and "William Fritz" used the same source -- Gareth Wean.  I was disappointed, too, to note that William Fritz failed to credit Gareth Wean in his bibliography.   (I also note that Jeff Caufield somehow omitted the name of Gareth Wean from his Index.)

Gareth Wean's story has a lot of truth -- I'm convinced -- though it's soiled by his own Right-wing beliefs.  For this reason, IMHO, Wean refused -- actually failed -- to name the Dallas Radical Right as the main JFK plotters -- but instead shifted the blame to the CIA -- which is what "William Fritz" also did.

The notion of a "hijacking" of a "False Flag" plot is fiction, in my opinion.    What really happened, in my CT, was:

1.   If there was a "False Flag" JFK plot, it was set up by General Walker to get fence-sitters to cooperate.

2.  The actual shooting of JFK was planned by General Walker.

3.   Walker planned this revenge because of JFK and RFK sending General Walker to an insane asylum on October 1, 1962.   It was as close as Walker could get to an anniversary date.

4.  In my opinion, Walker also targeted Lee Harvey Oswald to be killed during the same weekend.   

5.  I fully believe that new FBI FOIA releases will reveal that General Walker was directly responsible for the entire weekend of death in Dallas from 11/22/1963 through 11/24/1963.

"William Fritz" does not go where I go.  I believe he borrows from Gareth Wean, and then adds his own guesswork.   He needs more evidence -- just like I do.  But I'm still working on my evidence.   I think that "William Fritz" has given up.

All best,
--Paul

12 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 13: DPD Detective Richard Sims (38)

<SNIP>    CONCERNS:

1. Why is Curry camped out at Parkland Hospital around the time of the assassination?
2. Why is Sheriff Decker camped out at Parkland Hospital around the time of the assassination?
3. Why does the 12:58 narrative of arriving at the TSBD suddenly omit Sheriff Decker?  Does he disappear?  What does Decker do?
4. The explanation for the sequence of events and the source of his instructions to go to the TSBD is confused.  Fishy.
5. Why do Sims and others indicate the shells are found up against the wall instead of in the configuration seen in WC exhibits?
6. Why does Sims go to Sheriff Decker after leaving the TSBD?  Who orders this?  What do they discuss?
7. How is it that this is the first testimony where we hear Decker requests a meeting with Fritz?
8. Does Sims really have such bad memory that he cannot recall what Oswald said at an interrogation?
9. Finding the bus transfer slip is pretty significant, why does Sims not mention this until the 3rd or 4th time around in giving a narrative of events?
10. Is it really so easy for a murder suspect to take live bullets into a police station in 1963 and not have them discovered until hours later?
11. Isn't Det Sims claiming he only found a paperclip at 1026 N Beckley absurd?    The room was completely clean?
12. Why is Sims trying to imply Oswald was trained for questioning?  Is this in keeping with the way Fritz suggests LHO was trained in Russia for interrogations?
13. The fact that between 2 separate WC testimonies Det Sims talked to Capt Fritz in order to get the correct story around the found shells is a complete joke.  Who decides Sims needs to give a 2nd testimony in front of the WC lawyers?

Overall, Det Sims is a terrible witness.  He either can't remember anything at all or is so confused about important details that he needs correcting by Fritz.   If there is a master story here, Sims is not good at remembering it.  Sims is the weakest link here and is the biggest liability so far for the conspirators in terms of police testimony.

Hi Jason,

Great work on the WC testimony of DPD Detective Richard Sims.   Here's my feedback on your concerns:

 1.  Curry camped out at Parkland Hospital around the time of the assassination because he was in the lead car, maybe 200 feet in front of JFK.   

1.1.  Aside from their driver, the others in that lead car were Sheriff Bill Decker and Dallas SS agent Forrest Sorrels.   (IMHO, these are three of the main JFK plotters).  

 2.  Sheriff Decker is camped out at Parkland Hospital around the time of the assassination because he was already in the lead car with Curry and Sorrels.

2.1.  After JFK is shot, they sped to Parkland to see if JFK survived or not.  If JFK survived, that would set them back to Plan B.

3.   Sheriff Decker is muted in all testimony, except for Fritz's two yes-men, Sims and Boyd.  We don't know what Decker does after 12;58 pm because Decker never mentions it at all.   Further, Fritz never speaks of it at all.

3.1.  If not for Fritz's two flunkies,  we would never know about the Fritz/Decker meeting from ~1:30 pm to ~2:15 pm.

4.   The reason, IMHO, that the sequence of events and the source of Sims' instructions to go to the TSBD is confused is that the plan to use LHO at the TSBD as the scapegoat in the JFK murder was made long in advance.  

4.1.  JFK plotters did their best to make it look realistic -- as part of the "Master Story."   However, yes-men became confused about what they were supposed to say, except for "yes, sir."

5.   IMHO, Sims and others saw the shells up against the wall -- as Roger Craig said.

5.1.  Yet after these men saw the shells, other JFK plotters probably decided it was too obvious -- why would a sniper arrange his shells in a neat order before running like mad?

5.2.  So, they scattered the shells.  This was before Lieutenant Day arrived to photographs the shells.

 6.   Sims merely follows Fritz and Boyd -- as usual -- wherever they go.

6.1.  In this case, Sheriff Decker asked to see Fritz.  When the meeting was decided we can only guess.

6.2.   I think Sims got his order from Fritz.   Sims (like Boyd) was a professional yes-man for Fritz.  He would do anything Fritz said, and otherwise he would wait around.   

6.3.  What Fritz and Decker discussed in this meeting -- perhaps as early as 1:30 pm, and as late as 2:15 pm, nobody dares breathe a word.

6.4.  IMHO, when Deputy Boone called down from the sniper's window below at 1:12 pm, to exclaim that he "found" the shells, and he testified to the WC that he saw Fritz and Decker in a discussion on the sidewalk below the window -- he tells the truth.

6.5.  I'd venture a guess -- Fritz and Decker were discussing their next meeting time, depending on the unfolding of events.  They would meet ASAP after this TSBD visit.

6.6.  Soon after that sidewalk meeting, Sheriff Decker returned to his office at the County Jail.

7.   It is great that we have this testimony about Decker requesting a meeting with Fritz.   We also got a hint from Boyd about it.

8.  IMHO,  the only thing that Detective Sims remembered very well was that Fritz and the team were just stalling for time so that Jesse Curry could coordinate Jack Ruby to kill LHO.   

8.1.  But Sims couldn't say that, of course.   So he just stammered.

8.2.   The first killing plan was the late Friday night press conference.  Ruby chickened out, I figure.

8.3.   LHO was supposed to be moved to the County Jail within 12 hours by Law.

8.4.  But Decker refused to take him.  The DPD had to eliminate LHO, because it was their screw-up that Tippit failed to kill LHO at Oak Cliff.

9.  IMHO, there was no bus transfer ticket until the DPD invented it.   Also, they invent it late in the day.   It is impossible that LHO would enter the Dallas City Jail without a thorough search. 

9.1.  Sims hesitates to mention the bus transfer ticket until the 3rd or 4th narrative, because he was uncomfortable with perjury.  This may have been his first time.  But he would do anything Fritz ordered him to do.  After all - the WC was a bunch of Damn Yankees.

10.  It is utterly impossible  for a murder suspect to take live bullets into a police station in 1963 and not have them discovered until hours later.  

10.1.   Sims is a rookie at a "Master Story."  That's the problem

11.  As for finding only a paperclip at the North Beckley room -- Sims is correct on this.  

11.1.   On Friday evening, the Beckley room was scrubbed clean by the DPD.   Sims was not in that team.

11.2.  Sims went there on Saturday (with Boyd)  -- when the Beckley room was utterly empty.

12.   When Sims suggests that Oswald was ready with all answers and was the best he had ever seen -- he seems to me to imply that Oswald was a Russian spy.   Oswald was pretty amazing, he suggests!

12.1.   In my CT, whoever accuses LHO of being a Communist is part of the JFK plot.   That seems firm to me. 

13.  The WC hearings were -- as LBJ said -- only a formality to confirm a report that J. Edgar Hoover already made in December 1963, namely, that Lee Harvey Oswald was the LONE SHOOTER.  

13.1.   Rankin told Sylvia Odio that even if she could prove her story that Oswald had accomplices -- the WC would never accept it -- their mind was made up. 

So, yes, Jason,  I agree that so far Sims is the weakest link.  I think, however, that we will see links even weaker than this. 

All best,
--Paul

12 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

Hi Paul,

Like the rest of us, Garrison in my view has his pros and cons.   Yes indeed opening up so much of the New Orleans part of this story was essential.   However, there's plenty more in Garrison's story that makes us ask if he too often put expediency in front of justice.  For instance, Carlos Marcello remained pretty comfortable during the Bann justister years.   I can see a man like Garrison backing off the Minutemen -who he claims are behind the assassination-  if his family was threatened.   There is also the fact that Plaquemines Parish overlord Lender Perez and the rest of the South Louisiana Establishment (including Marcello) were pretty cozy with each other.  Do you think that in some sense pursuing the Minutemen might have brought Garrison too close to Marcello, which in turn caused Bannister to back off the Minutemen and instead target the CIA? 

Hi Jason,

My current opinion is that Marcello was small potatoes compared with the Radical Right in the US South.   Leander Perez was far more fearsome and powerful than Carlos Marcello ever dreamed.   Carlos, to get power, had to hold on tight to Guy Banister and David Ferrie -- who were beacons of the Radical Right in New Orleans.

Carlos Marcello was willing to pour hundreds of thousands of his crime-based dollars into the hands of Banister and Ferrie -- and Banister was happy to funnel much of that money into the New Orleans Minutemen.   These hardened mercenaries would practice paramilitary maneuvers with Cuban Exiles there near Lake Pontchartrain -- on a swamp owned by Carlos Marcello,and managed by David Ferrie.

Although in 1963, JFK and RFK had made it illegal to finance  Cuba Raid groups like Interpen and La Sambra, this was no problem for Carlos Marcello, who lusted for revenge against RFK almost as much as General Walker himself.

Yet it was the Minutemen themselves who were the truly feared bunch -- because they didn't get rich on what they did -- they barely made ends meet -- they barely paid their surgeons for their most recent wounds.   They were fanatics who would fight Fidel Castro for free if only they didn't need food, water, boots, bullets and bennies.

If their leaders only pointed to somebody, and said the words, "Commie rat," then that person would not last the day.

These were the people that worried JIm Garrison the most.   Jim knew a lot about them.   He had probably been invited to join their number on occasion, since he had been a fighter pilot during WW2.   Most of the Minutemen were former US military guys.   They were fiercely patriotic -- if by patriot one means Radical Right guys like the Interpen, Loran Hall and Gerry Patrick Hemming.

The Radical Right did not want Jim Garrison to get too close to the JFK case.   It wasn't the mafia that scared Jim Garrison.  He could always run to RFK about that.   This was different. 

All best,
--Paul

13 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

Hi Paul, 

Here's a little bit of support for your far right CT from some interesting figures.  The phrase Garrison uses, "the machinery which is making it work," is in my view 100% right.  These murders are operationally effective primarily through the local police.  Sure, the WC is helping the coverup, but the main way they do that is by protecting the DPD and sheriff's department.   The worker bees in this are police officers.

1. CIA internal report of Garrison's investigation:

2. WCBS TV 1967 Interview with Jim Garrison pretty much nails your CT = DPD Minutemen

<snip>

Hi Jason,

I appreciate these snippets from the famous Jim Garrison, because Jeff Caufield (2015) told me personally that he had full access to all of Jim Garrison's papers, and what stunned him most was that for most of his investigation, Garrison was tracking the Dallas Radical Right as the source of the JFK Assassination plot.

It was only at the last minute -- after David Ferrie was allegedly murdered, and Garrison's witnesses were being picked apart by the FBI and Justice Department -- that Jim Garrison realized he couldn't win this fight.   He was getting threats from the Radical Right in NOLA as well as from Dallas.   He had too few allies.

His last ditch effort was to blame the CIA -- who could neither "confirm, deny or discuss" the JFK Assassination.   This move probably saved his life.

But what we can see from his statements as late as 1967, Jim Garrison was hot on the trail of the Dallas Radical Right, the DPD, the Minutemen and the JBS.  Jim Garrison -- to this extent -- remains my hero.   He could have solved the JFK murder in 1967 if he had more help -- but there was too little help.

Jim Garrison hoped that somebody from Dallas would step forward.   THEY NEVER DID, until Ricky White stepped forward.   But almost nobody believed Ricky.  It was too late.

All best,
--Paul

7 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

The information was that Lee Oswald was actually hired by the FBI; that he was assigned the undercover-agent number 179; that he was on the FBI payroll at two hundred dollars a month starting in September 1962 and that he was still on their payroll the day he was apprehended  in the Texas Theater....

--Gerald Ford, Portrait of the Assassin, p. 14.

It seems to me that $200 a month is too little to pay an "Undercover FBI Agent."   Also, FBI agent numbers had alphabetical elements as well as numerals, didn't they?  

It sounds like somebody's guesswork based on some FBI document that was poorly understood.  What was the document cited by Gerald Ford?

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

1 hour ago, Jason Ward said:

    

Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 12: DPD Homicide & Robbery Detective Marvin Johnson...43

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CONCERNS:

1.       Why does WC attorney Belin announce repeatedly that 3 shells were found before asking the Det. Johnson how many shells were found?

2.       Det Johnson testifies that all three shells were close to the window, which suggests at least one shell was moved.  The official crime scene photos show one shell 2 feet or so away from the window. Who moved the shells and why?

3.       There is a timing inconsistency here between Det Johnson, Inspector Sawyer, and Captain Fritz, et. al.   Det Johnson testifies he arrived at 1 or a shortly before 1 and at this time the shells were already found.   But Fritz says he arrived at 12:58; and Sawyer says the shells were found at 1:12.  [see DPD report below for an additional statement from Johnson as to TSBD arrival time]

4.       Doesn’t Det Johnson contradict Deputies Mooney and Craig as to who was tasked with guarding the evidence of the found shells?

5.       If I were cross examining Detective Johnson, I would wonder if he saw more or less than 3 shell casings and I would make him pinpoint where exactly the shells were located compared to the official picture.

6.       The whole 6^th floor part of Detective Johnson’s narratives just doesn’t make sense compared with other testimony.   He has different people protecting the shells, different times, and a different shell arrangement than that suggested in other testimony.  

7.       Either Johnson is a very confused witness or we have reason to suspect that there were two different scenes that day, one scene Johnson saw and the other scene Fritz et al. describe in testimony – with each scene having different officers, different shell arrangements, and at different times.  We wonder if Johnson is testifying to the wrong scenario and not the one agreed upon by other police witnesses?

8.       From a broader perspective I wonder if Johnson is a totally honest witness whose honesty contradicts the practiced master narrative heard elsewhere?

Jason,

Here is my feedback on your concerns about Detective Marvin Johnson:

1.  WC attorney Belin is leading Detective Johnson with a pat story about 3 shots from one location, and 3 hulls found -- Case Closed.

2.  Detective Johnson will not be the only WC witness to claim that they originally saw three shells neatly grouped by the window.  Roger Craig will be another.

2.1.  Does it show sloppiness of the chain of evidence?  Or is it even more suspicious?

3.  The timing inconsistency will reappear throughout the DPD testimony.

3.1.  Captain Fritz arrived at the TSBD by 12:58, but he remained downstairs on the sidewalk speaking with Sheriff Decker when the shells were found, according to Lt. Boone.

3.2.  The official time of finding the shells is recorded by Inspector Sawyer: 1:12 pm.

3.3.  Johnson arrives at 12:30, and the shells were already found?  No.  But that is only his sloppy way of speaking.

3.4.  The likely scenario is that: (a) Johnson arrived at 12:50; (b ) Johnson loitered around and gossiped for nearly 30 minutes, waiting for orders; while (c) Boone found the shells and announced it at 1:12 to Fritz on the sidewalk below; and (d) Captain Fritz came up to inspect the shells; then (e) seniors ordered Johnson to guard the shells.

4. Detective Johnson claims to be the one tasked to guard the shells.  Other witnesses are careless and blase about the chain of evidence, leaving that bother to "underlings."  I tend to believe Johnson on this point.

5. Even in simple legal discovery, a brief description of what Johnson saw with regard to the 3 shells would be normal.

5.1.  The implication is that there is a "Master Story" and that although the DPD officers were schooled in it, they could not be trusted to wander off script. 

5.2. So, the WC attorneys were also schooled in it, and kept the DPD officers on script.

6. Detective Johnson wanders off script despite the best intentions of all.

6.1.  Different times; different shell arrangement; different people guarding the shells; it suggests that Johnson is wandering away from a "Master Story."   

7.  I get the impression that Johnson is well-meaning -- and the only confusing aspect to his testimony is that he is trying to be a DPD team player, but is too honest for his own good.

8. I get a similar impression, Jason, that Detective Johnson is a painfully honest witness.  We need his sort to help in our "hairsplitting".

All best,
--Paul

12 hours ago, Jason Ward said:

Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 11: DPD Detective Bob Carroll...Age 33             

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CONCERNS

1. Why does Det. Carroll initially state that officer McDonald marks the gun to preserve the chain of evidence only to later identify the gun in person because the gun contains his, Carroll's, initials?
2. Who gave orders to Carroll at the TSBD?  To search the basement and go to Oak Cliff?
3. Is Carroll sent to the TSBD basement so as not to disturb whatever's happening on the 6th floor?
4. Why is Carroll a few blocks from the Texas Theatre when he hears "a suspect" is in the Texas Theatre?   Why was he on that part of Jefferson?
5. How does Carroll know the people he saw on the balcony were not the suspect if Carroll cannot provide the suspect's description?
6. From whom did Carroll snatch the gun from in the Texas Theatre?
7. Why does a mob form at the Texas Theatre and what information do they have to make them ready to kill Oswald on the spot?
8. A man is arrested for shooting a cop on the day the president is assassinated and Carroll does not know who took custody of Oswald at DPD headquarters?
9. The chain of evidence for the pistol is a complete fiasco.   There are at least 3 officers who handled the pistol and testimony that two officers put their initials on the pistol....what really happened with the pistol at DPD headquarters?  and why were they in the personnel office with the pistol?
10. WC attorney Ball is at times more probing than his colleague Bellin, although for the most part Carroll is allowed to gloss over unlikely or confused parts in his narrative.
11. There is apparently no usable description of Oswald when Carroll arrives at the theatre - so how do they choose to arrest Oswald?

Det. Carroll seems like he was deliberately kept away from the main action on the 6th floor of the TSBD.   

All previous testimony has seen officers quickly get to the 6th floor, sometimes inexplicably; but Carroll is sent to the basement!   Will we see in testimony a clear demarcation of officers who immediately get to the 6th floor and those who are kept away from the 6th floor?   

The convenient location a few blocks from the Texas Theatre at the time Carroll is ordered to the Texas Theatre makes us wonder if Carroll set off for the Texas Theatre immediately upon leaving the TSBD?  Probably Carroll's most significant role here is as the first cop on the scene at the theater.   My inclination is to believe that Carroll is playing ball and going along with a story but is not actually an active conspirator in Kennedy's assassination.  

Stuart Reed's photo of Oswald's removal from the Texas Theatre; Detective Bob Carroll is to the left, circled in red.   His testimony is that he puts a pistol in his belt, where it stays until sometime in the car ride back to downtown Dallas....so why does this picture show a picture of Carroll holding a gun in his right hand?

Hi Jason,

Here is my feedback on your concerns about DPD officer Bob Carroll

1.   The sloppy method of chain-of-evidence in the JFK Assassination suggests to me a local DPD culture of a swagger in the face of danger.   Let the pencil pushers deal with it.

2.   There were three DPD brass officers in the TSBD at 1pm: Inspector Sawyer, Chief Lumpkin and Captain Fritz.   They are the likely ones to give him his orders.  Without orders, I get the idea that Carroll would hang around. 

3. I always wondered why Carroll was sent to the TSBD basement when he arrived at about 1pm.   It sounds FISHY.  

3.1.  It sounds to me like a "Master Story" in which Carroll was untrusted to keep quiet about details -- so he was instructed to testify that he was in the basement (reason unknown) during the alleged discovery of the shells and rifle. 

3.2.  I don't think this has anything to do with Carroll being "too honest" or "not a team player" about the shenanigans on the 6th floor.   I think Carroll was a consummate team player -- but he was undiscerning, and so could not be trusted to keep the "Master Story" straight under questioning.

3.3.  I suspect that Carroll was given his own "little script" and that he delivered it very well.

4.  I think it is at least plausible that Carroll was accidentally the first one at the Texas Theater.  I will let this slide.

5.   I think it is plausible that a gung-ho officer would rush into the Texas Theater with his pistol drawn, with only a dim description.   He was rushing into harm's way and he knew it, and he would rely on his instincts.  

5.1.  He had to make an instant choice -- upstairs or downstairs?   If downstairs, his life was more at risk from a shooter upstairs.  A lady may have said something to him, but he heard it as "he is upstairs."  

5.2.  When Carroll was upstairs in the balcony, he saw a half-dozen people at most -- shocked, terrified, and it was obvious to him they were all harmless civilians.  He was relying on his instincts.   I will let this slide.

6.  Since there was a scuffle between five DPD officers and Oswald, including threats of shooting violence, and blows, I believe that events proceeded too fast to be sure of details.  

6.1.  A hearing would be required to sort out the details -- and perhaps none would obtain consensus.   Who held the gun before Carroll?   I will let this slide.

7.  I can easily imagine a mob forming outside the Texas Theatre with the fact of seven police cars surrounding it, and news on the radio that JFK was shot and Tippit was also killed down the block.  

7.1.  People were outraged all over the USA.  I think the locals in Dallas were also ready to riot.   I will let this slide.

8.  With all the scuffle that happened in Dallas from 12:30 to 2pm on 11/22/1963, I think that Bob Carroll is proud as a rooster that he was the one to push Oswald into his police car, and drive him to the DPD station.   Here alone was Carroll's fifteen minutes of fame.   Maybe more.  

8.1.  I think he was happy to share the fame with his friends -- and let them put their initials on shells and guns -- and boast about who took custody of Oswald at DPD headquarters.   I will let this slide.

9.  I think that Carroll was sloppy with the chain of evidence mainly because of his swagger and his future boasting for his central role in arresting Oswald.

9.1.  I think he was happy to share the fame with his friends -- and let them put their initials on shells and guns.-

10.   I agree that the WC attorneys let Carroll just read his script and move on.   It is like CW Brown -- here is my little script.   Thank you.  Goodbye.

10.1.   Carroll's script included dramatic events, intended to substitute for real content.  There is: (a)  the shooting of Tippit; (b ) being the first to arrive at the Texas Theater; (c) being in the fight to subdue Oswald; (d) grabbing Oswald's gun; (e) stuffing Oswald into his car; (f) facing a mob that wanted to lynch Oswald;l (g) talking with Oswald on the way to the DPD station.  

10.2.  After that, the details were murky with Bob Carroll.  Like, 'Isn't that enough excitement?  What more do you want from me?'  

11.   According to other testimony -- which we may review later -- the manager of the Theater identified Oswald for the Dallas Police.   How reliable is that story?   Yet that is the official WC story.

12.   Finally, as for the question of when Oswald's gun was in his belt and in his hand at any given time during the arrest of Oswald and posing for photographs -- this is a minor question under the tremendous circumstances of these historical events, which could have been life-or-death for the arresting officers. There is some swagger in the pose.   

All best,
--Paul

10 hours ago, Pamela Brown said:

I think Lee's Mother, Marguerite, made a statement to that effect when she wrote to the State Department while he was in the USSR.  I'll look for a cite...

Marguerite was hoping beyond hope, but she never had proof.  Here is something else she said:

Mrs. OSWALD.   ...But my children were never tied to my apron strings.  And I can prove to you, in his defection in 1959, I made the statement that Lee, as an individual, had the right to think and do what he wanted to. They even said he was a Communist.  If that is what he studied, and that is what he wanted to do, I accepted that, because that was his privilege as an individual...
Mr. RANKIN. Are you telling the Commission that your son was part of a conspiracy to assassinate the President? 
Mrs. OSWALD. I am saying that I realize that my son could possibly be part -- yes -- I realize he is a human being and he could possibly be in this, yes, sir. 

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

On 3/26/2018 at 8:30 PM, Jason Ward said:

Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 10 Dallas Police Department Detective C.W. Brown

CONCERNS:

1. Detective Brown is the only officer yet studied who practices the police-standard chain of evidence, which he does with the shell casing found by the Davis women.

2. Given Brown's insistence on the expected chain-of-evidence habit of initialing items as they are passed between police officials, how is it that the evidence found on the 6th floor is treated so sloppily with no chain of evidence effort made whatsoever?

3. Brown has significant gaps in his itinerary that day.  What was he doing?

4. The conclusion that Oswald is the gunman in both Dealey Plaza and Oak Cliff is very quick; it's unclear how a worker missing from the TSBD is so certainly named a presidential assassin based only on the fact that he was missing from the TSBD.

5. Does Fritz admit to talking to Detective Brown?  Where exactly is Fritz calling from in the TSBD?

6. The sequenced story Brown provides is minimalist and hits only the essential ingredients of guilt (JFK shot; Oswald identified by Shelley as a missing employee simultaneously as Oswald is brought in to the police station for shooting Tibbit; McWatters identifies Oswald; the Davis sisters identify Oswald; a .38 shell casing appears along with the Davis women.  Very neat.  An orderly and concise conviction of guilt in 2 separate shooting incidents which injure or kill 4 people)

7. Why does Brown go straight to the TSBD?   Why does he go to the back door?  Why does he go only to the 6th floor?  Who else does Brown see or interact with on the 6th floor or in the TSBD?

8. Is this the first we've heard of ~5 TSBD employees on the 6th floor with Fritz around the time the gun and shell casings are found?

9. Out of all the phones ringing at the DPD that day, Brown picks up the phone and it is, fortuitously for the quick pace of the narrative, Captain Fritz!?!

10.  Are bus drivers like Cecil McWatters really so diligent in studying their passengers that they can identify them later in the day?

11.  The elaborate theater of McWatters showing Brown that "the transfer" is in fact from McWatters' ticket punch is gilding the lilly.  No chain of evidence provided with the found bus transfer; additionally of course previous testimony is that Oswald took a cab, did not need a bus transfer, and changed his entire wardrobe while at the Beckley rooming house.  A hole from a ticket punch is an Agatha Christie-style clue that IMO took some serious advanced contemplation as it strategically enhances McWatters' reliability.  Ticket punches are unique to each driver/conductor, even in systems with 1000+ ticket punchers.  Not many people know that - this evidence reeks.

12. Det. Brown's testimony around the Davis women portrays them as the most efficient, certain, and reliable witnesses in the history of homicide investigations

13. Taken as a composite, each police witness is providing a connect-the-dots picture of 22 November, with, it seems, most witnesses providing the next missing or needed plot point in the story that Oswald did it and in the story of how Oswald was caught so quickly.   

Overall, Brown to me smells of prepared testimony.   He obviously came in with a few bullet points (pun intended) he had to get on the record.  WC Attorney Belin obliges him by allowing Brown to run the proceedings and make an unchallenged narrative of events.   I almost want to ask if Belin was warned that Brown is a fragile witness of limited improvisation ability such that Belin makes an especially tender effort to let this witness come and go quickly without further probing of any kind.

Hi Jason,

Thanks for this summary and analysis of DPD Homicide Detective Charles W. Brown.  Here's my feedback on your 13 concerns.

1. Chain of evidence is one of the most important factors in the TSBD testimony.   

2. Brown's initialing of the alleged .38 shell found by the Davis sisters shows his conceren for it -- so it's amazing that the TSBD 6th floor evidence is treated without regard for chain-of-evidence.

3. Brown's story was practically read from a script.  It's skinny and lacks crucial details.

4. The conclusion that LHO is killer of both Tippit and JFK is far too quick to be guesswork for somebody at the level of street work.  It's not like a worker at a more general level -- there is almost no evidence and Brown knows it.

4.1.  It is impossible to conclude from the fact of a worker missing from the TSBD that "they must have killed JFK."   In fact, there were *many* workers missing from the TSBD at 1pm.

4.2.  The DPD cops who told Roy Truly to gather up all his men and count them were, IMHO, among the JFK plotters.  

4.3.  They would know that LHO was not in the building, and they would know that Roy Truly would do anything the DPD told him to do.

4.4.  It was just a matter of moments before Chief Lumpkin would take Roy Truly upstairs to meet Captain Fritz, who had only arrived inside the TSBD a few minutes ago.

5. Fritz never mentions C.W. Brown except in the context of the LHO lineups. 

5.1.  Since Fritz called DPD HQ after LHO arrived at the DPD HQ, Fritz didn't call from the TSBD, but from the office of Sheriff Bill Decker. We have this timeline from Detective Boyd.

6.  As for the sequence that Brown provides: (1) JFK killed; (2) LHO ID'd by Shelley; (3) LHO ID'd by  McWatters at lineup; (4) Davis sisters report a .38 shell that evening; (5) Brown and Dhority get shell and bring the Davis sisters; (6) LHO ID'd by the Davis sisters -- it is all too pat. 

7.  Brown goes to the TSBD because he is so "ordered" by "Lieutenant Wells."  But Wells never testifies for the TSBD. 

7.1.  The time is suggested roughly -- JFK is shot -- Lt. Wells orders Brown and his partner to "get out there and help" and when Brown and his partner arrive at the TSBD, Captain Fritz is already there on the 6th floor. 

7.2.  Yet we know from Boone that Fritz was on the sidewalk below the TSBD with Sheriff Decker at 1:12 PM, when the bullet shells were found on the TSBD 6th floor.

7.3.  This tells us, that after JFK was killed, more than 40 minutes had passed before Brown and his partner arrived at the TSBD.

7.4.  This also explains why they went to the TSBD -- dozens of Dallas Police were already there at the TSBD.  

7.5.  Yet since the hour was so late, and Captain Fritz was now on the 6th floor, this suggests no clue why Brown would go in the back door while his partner went in the front door.

7.6.  The cautious mode of entry suggests that they arrived very early -- early enough to be cautious.  But by 1pm, with the TSBD teeming with cops, there was no need to be cautious.

7.7.  Brown gives us no details about what happened on the 6th floor TSBD except that he saw Captain Fritz there, who ordered Brown and his partner to take "five or so" TSBD employees back to HQ for questioning. 

7.8.  At the very, very best, we are speaking of time compression here -- virtually no details.

8.  Let me give Brown the benefit of the doubt on this "6th floor" location of the "five or so TSBD" employees.

8.1.  IMHO, Brown meant that he got Fritz' "order" on the 6th floor -- the employees were entirely the crew of Roy Truly -- mostly African-American employees -- all gathered for roll-call on the 1st floor.  

8.2.  We have a photograph, IIRC, of these African-Employees being loaded into a car outside the TSBD to be taken downtown for questioning.  They are all Roy Truly's guys.

8.3.  They were all on the 1st floor.   I'll let this one slide.

9.  It is also plausible that when Brown picked up the phone, it was Captain Fritz, because Brown worked in the Homicide bureau, and most DPD calls did not go there, but Fritz's calls would go there.   I'll let this one slide, too.

10. McWatters' ID of LHO is ridiculous.  You have already shown the blatant contradiction. 

10.1.  This is substantial evidence of witness tampering to frame a suspect.  It's so obvious, IMHO. 

11.  The story of McWatters' ticket punch is clearly meant to REPLACE the chain-of-evidence for that bus transfer.

11.1.  We have no verification outside the DPD, that LHO ever had a bus transfer.   All the WC witness testimony relied upon to identify LHO on a city bus that afternoon, crumbles under scrutiny.

11.2.  The officers of the DPD Homicide Bureau are our only witnesses to a "bus transfer."

12.  The whole account of the Davis sisters is also too pat.  

12.1.   Also, their WC testimony also falls apart, IMHO.

DPD Homicide Detective Charles W. Brown provided a quick-and-dirty portrait of how LHO killed both JFK and Tippit, and how he was caught so quickly.  Way, way too pat. 

All best,
--Paul

Hi Jason,

Excellent -- I was just going to post McWatters' denial myself.   McWatters was a weak WC witness.   He doesn't even want to ID Oswald -- why is he even there?       

For some reason, some witnesses seem willing to tell the DPD cops whatever they want to hear.  They seem to sing to whatever tune the DPD calls.   Then they take the witness stand and take it back.   Same with the taxi driver.  Same with the Mexico City bus folks.   Yet the official WC version still relies on these people!  

All best,
--Paul

Jason,

I know you're busy at your day job -- just as I am.   I also know that reviewing the 1964 WC testimony of Dallas Police can be a boring and time-consuming task.  So, I will wait patiently.   Yet I'm finding your summaries and analyses of these Dallas Police to be riveting.

We'll easily be able to link up the falsehoods of FBI agent James Hosty, IMHO, with the many other falsehoods from the DPD and Dallas Sheriff's office among those who plotted to kill JFK -- after we have reviewed further key pieces of WC testimony.

After your review of the DPD cops on your list -- may I ask you to add the WC testimony of the four key people who interviewed Lee Harvey Oswald inside the office of DPD Captain Will Fritz that weekend, namely: (1) Dallas FBI agent James Hosty; (2) Dallas Postal Inspector Harry Holmes; (3) Dallas Secret Service agent, Forrest Sorrels; and (4) Dallas FBI agent James Bookhout? 

All best,
--Paul

40 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

...Leavelle's precognitive thoughts of such an event were remarkably prescient in it's playing out just as he described to Oswald minutes later. Incredible coincidence? 

And Leavelle's guilty bias toward Oswald was so clear when he bluntly told Oswald he thought Oswald was accurate in his murder shootings.

Great choice to guard Oswald.

Joe,

I'll raise the ante again -- IMHO, some Dallas cops not only disdained JFK, but they joined the Dallas plot to kill JFK.  They were in the best position to do this and get away with it.

The American people have not wanted to hear this for 55 years.   It is better to blame the CIA and the FBI and even LBJ -- than to speak of the theory that the Dallas Police and Deputies killed JFK and LHO in a single weekend.  

In my humble opinion, LHO was supposed to be killed in Oak Cliff -- on the streets.  That's what JD Tippit tried to do -- but he was too slow on the draw.   (The DPD could not kill LHO in the movie theater, because there were too many witnesses -- including many honest DPD cops.)

After LHO was brought into the DPD station, the biggest problem that Captain Will Fritz and Chief Jesse Curry had -- was how to ensure that LHO would be killed in their station.  They could NEVER allow LHO to be transferred to the County Jail, because the Press would be even worse there.

The reason that Jack Ruby was at the Friday midnight conference of the press observing LHO, was so that Jack Ruby could kill LHO then and there.   But either Jack Ruby saw no clear opening, or he chickened out, and needed more coaxing by DPD plotters.

Finally -- Joe -- your point about the high spike in Jack Ruby's calls to Chicago is very interesting.   Do we have the TIMES of those calls?   Because, if they were all AFTER the JFK Assassination, then that could add a lot to my CT.

All best,
--Paul

On ‎3‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 5:52 PM, Joe Bauer said:

(1) ... Oswald...denying shooting anyone is not proclaiming one's grand place in notorious history.

(2) ....The impossible scenario of Jack Ruby...the most heightened security measures ever initiated in Dallas Police Department history...closer to Oswald than...the 70 or more armed officers whose primary duty that day was to ensure Oswald's safety...That failure and breakdown in that effort is beyond any explanation except collusion.

Joe,

Nice summary of two key points of the JFK Assassination.    I offer a remark on point #2.

IMHO, Seth Kantor wrote the definitive book on Jack Ruby, namely, Who Was Jack Ruby? (1971).   In that book, he showed the Jack Ruby was a tool of the Dallas Police.

Seth Kantor knew Jack Ruby personally, and he believed that Jack was too unstable to do anything on his own -- instead, several Dallas Police prevailed upon Jack Ruby to convince him to kill Lee Harvey Oswald -- to win a place in history, to avenge a fellow DPD cop, to kill a cop-killer, and to potentially be a hero to the whole USA.

It took some doing.  They worked on Jack Ruby from Friday night through Sunday morning.    Finally, he cracked.   Jack Ruby did what the Dallas Police begged him to do.

All best,
--Paul