Robert Mady

Paul, Thank you - much appreciated. Have you analyzed the z-frames and confirmed for your self that the observations are completely valid? Do you agree that no SSA or Officer turns to look toward the TSBD or towards the rear in the z-film? Also that the SSA LANDIS, HICKEY, READY and possibly HILL appear to react to the 'firecracker' like noise by looking in the direction of the grassy knoll?

Jackie heard CONNALLY yelling, President Kennedy was silent. WC Testimony KENNEDY "But then suddenly Governor Connally was yelling 'oh no no no'"

Also what should be of interest is the testimony of JOHN CONNALLY and NELLIE CONNALLY who both claim to have heard the first shot that struck the President and for the most part claimed it to be from a high powered rifle, JOHN CONNALLY went on to say he immediately recognized the sound to represent an assassination attempt. How is it that both JOHN and NELLIE CONNALLY reacted to the first shot, when there is not any other person in the Zapruder film that reacts other than the President and then JACKIE who claimed to react to JOHN "yelling". There is no visible reaction to the first shot other than SS Agents LANDIS, READY, HICKEY and HILL looking toward the grassy knoll.

What PO CHANEY apparently neglected to mention is when the second shot occurred and caused the fatal head wound, CHANEY along with JACKSON, HARGIS and MARTIN all can be seen to look toward the grassy knoll, as evidenced in the NIX film. It is astonishing that in 50 years apparently no one has analyzed these films to discern actions of the witnesses.

PO CHANEY in same TV interview on 11/22/1963 goes on "When the second shot came I looked back just in time to see the President killed in the face with a bullet. He fell forward into Mrs. KENNEDY's lap." We also know KENNEDY fell sideways not forward, the statement is untrue and likely with purpose to foster the notion that The President was shot from behind. What has been neglected is evidence that CHANNEY claimed the second shot hit President KENNEDY in the head causing the fatal head wound. As a researcher you must come to understand that this statement means something very important and crucial to understanding and unlocking the true nature of the assassination.

PO CHANEY in a TV interview on 11/22/1963 "The first shot I thought was a motorcycle backfiring and I looked back over my left shoulder and also President KENNEDY looked back over his left shoulder" PO CHANEY can be seen in the sprocket holes area until Z-207, at no time does he look toward the rear, although he can be seen to look toward the grassy knoll. The graphic evidence available in the Zapruder film conclusively impeaches this testimony. (don't give me grief that he was not under oath - he lied to the nation on National TV) CHANNEY also lied about the President looking over his shoulder.

SSA READY, SSA LANDIS and SSA HICKEY all claim they looked to the rear following the first shot. The only evidence of these agents looking to the rear is in ALTGENS #6 (Z-255) All of these agents can be seen in the Z-film until frame Z-207, HICKEY until Z-212. The only direction they all look is toward the grassy knoll. This graphic evidence available in the Zapruder film conclusively impeaches the testimony of SSA READY, SSA LANDIS and SSA HICKEY

PO MARTIN claimed he looked to the rear after the first shot and actually looked at the TSBD. When MARTIN's actions are analyzed in the Zapruder film and sprocket hole area, at no time does he look to the rear or make any attempt to turn his head farther than to look toward the grassy knoll or the limo. The graphic evidence available in the Zapruder film conclusively impeaches MARTIN's testimony.

Starting at frame Z-235 HILL can be seen to be looking into the 'queen mary' not at the limo, he may be getting commands or looking for instructions, HILL is still looking hard left in frame Z-249 as he is lost from the image, we know in Z-255 ALTGENS #6 he again looks toward the limo. In Z-255 it is possible he is waiting for the limo to slow so he can safely make the transfer.

As I said HILL never turns to the rear and MCINTYRE can be seen until frame Z-237, he can not be seen to look to the rear.

In addition the assassination community has always used ROSEMARY WILLIS to time shots, this should now be reconsidered. If you watch ROSEMARY, as she begins to pass by the location where her father is, a woman can be seen stepping onto the curb, interestingly she has an umbrella or cane raised over her head and in the direction of ROSEMARY, if you watch ROSEMARY's reaction, she stops running because of the cane or something the woman also demanded. ROSMARY has stopped running before frames Z-190'. Conclusion must be that a sound was not the cause of interrupting her activity. Also her quick head turn toward the grassy knoll in not in sync with READY, LANDIS, HICKEY or HILL, therefore not of significance.

Has anyone posted the evidence that when the Zapruder film frames are analyzed particularly focusing on the presidential follow- up car occupants. Certain agents can be seen as early as the starting frame z-133 and all of them eventually become visible by frame z-153. The point is if you look only at these agents, particularly LANDIS, C HILL, READY and HICKEY, (also MCITYRE) they do not turn to look to the rear in any frame they are visible in, they are all visible until Z-207, HICKEY can still be seen in Z-212 looking forward. Also of note: Even after the first 'firecracker' like noise occurs MCINTYRE does not show any reaction. About frame Z-200 READY, LANDIS, HICKEY and HILL turn their attention toward the grassy knoll, this is just following frames Z-190's where JFK appears to stop waving. Side note: if you watch HILL, he never turns and only watches the limo and also seems to have a brief discussion with someone in the follow up car before he moves to the limo. This evidence should indicate that the first shot was around Z-190 and that the first reaction of the agents that heard this shot was to peer towards the source of the sound which was the grassy knoll. I have animated gifs, if you care to see. Bob Mady

William do you know where I may find the reports? Barnett has 1 in DPD file on line but was produced in December. Lots of smiths to look thru

David, you might think so, but there is not one report from the police present in DP other than Baker. All of those reports pertain to situations following the assassination. Not one DPD law enforcement officer must have had anything worth recording. That's the way it is. Bob Mady

David most of the reports are on McAdams website JFK Assassination witness list. It seems I can't cut and paste for what ever reason a few of the 17 I had to get from another government site, I really don't remember where

I appreciate every response. The DPD web site has affidavits and reports but not from the police present in Dealey Plaza reporting on the assassination. I am not looking for witnesses that are not law enforcement or Deputy Sheriff's which are readily available. It is astounding that there is an absence of police reports on the crime. If I didn't know this to be a conspiracy I might still think this is suspicious. Any one else? Thanks for the posts.

Hello everyone, I am a newbie on this Forum, so bare with me while I learn protocols I have been interested in Affidavits and initial Law Enforcement reports. The Deputy Sheriff's seemed to have been disciplined to create a report when involved with a crime scene or a crime. Seventeen Deputy sheriffs created a report or Affidavit on 11/22/1963 or 11/23/1963 concerning the assassination and their experience of it. I would hope the police department would have had their officers do the same. Does anyone know if police reports exist and where I may find them? thank you Bob Mady

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I am a native of The State of Minnesota, currently reside in The State of Kansas. I have been a member in good standing on JFK Assassination Forum since August 2012. My interest in the JFK assassination started as with most people by living through the experience. At the age of eleven I was astonished that The President of The United States could have been assassinated and confronted with feeling of misery and hopelessness that this event caused. There seemed to be a quiet disillusionment that pervaded my parents home as the News Medias story kept changing and finally with the death of Oswald there was a realization that the murder of JFK was accomplished by the highest powers in the land and there was nothing that would be done about it. Over the years I have spent some time reading and wondering about the assassination, but within the last few years decided to look deeper into the rabbit hole to see if the inner workings of the assassination could be discerned and understood. I have come to understand that the assassination is not what we have been asked to believe. My research is basic and does not rely on the work of others.