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Donald Trump takes his last shot.
"Tomorrow is a big day for Democracy. A Leaking, Crooked and Deranged Prosecutor, Jack Smith, who has a terrible record of failure, is asking a highly partisan Obama appointed Judge, Tanya Chutkan, who should recuse herself based on the horrible things she has said, to silence me, through the use of a powerful GAG ORDER, making it impossible for me to criticize those who are doing the silencing, namely Crooked Joe Biden, and his corrupt and weaponized DOJ & FBI. They want to take away my First Amendment rights, and my ability to both campaign and defend myself. In other words, they want to cheat and interfere in the 2024 Presidential Election. Nothing like this has ever happened in our Country before. It is strictly Banana Republic kind of “stuff.” These political Hacks and Thugs are destroying our Country. Let’s see what happens on Monday in Judge Chutkan’s courtroom. Will America survive, or not? I’ll be campaigning in the Great State of Iowa, where I am leading by 50 Points!!!"
Just the kind of thing I'd say to someone who has the power to put me in jail.
Steve Thomas
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On 10/7/2023 at 7:44 PM, Larry Hancock said:
As to my guesses, I think that the subversives were Cuban exiles engaged in weapons buys in Dallas and that the FBI was monitoring them and observed Oswald in contact with one or more of them , again you will find that discussed in SWHT - most recently David Boylan have speculated on exactly who they might have been in our Wheaton leads work and our recent presentations on the Red Bird leads - I don't want to make it sound like anything brand new although we have much more detail on exactly which activist exiles were traveling from the Miami area to both New Orleans and Dallas now than when I was doing the various editions of SWHT.
Larry,
Oswald and subversives...
"traveling from Miami to Dallas,,,:
I was immediately reminded of Sylvia Odio.
Commission Document 946 - SS Aragon Report of 5 May 1964 re: Sylvia Odio, Rogelio Cisneros Diaz page 3
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11342&search=%22Juan_Martin%22#relPageId=4&tab=page
On May 4, 1964 in an interview in his home with SS Agent Ernest I. Aragon, Rogelio Cisneros told Aragon that:
Rogelio Cisneros, a JURE member in Miami, went to Dallas alone, by plane in June, 1963 for the specific purpose of contacting Sylvia Odio who was supposed to introduce Cisneros to a Uruguayan named Juan Martin, who was interested in selling small arms to JURE. “He further identified himself as Rogelio Cisneros Diaz, an officer of JURE, at Miami,Florida, and added that the name “Eugenio” is his designated “war name””.
The JURE office in Dallas was already in operation, having been established in May, 1963. He only contacted Sylvia Odio once. When they went to her house, Cisneros was accompanied by Jorge Rodriguez (Alvarada) (Alvereda?), their Dallas delegate, and no one else.
My question is, why would Rogelio Cisneros fly from Miami, FL. To Dallas, TX. alone, in a plane for the specific purpose of contacting Sylvia Odio in order to meet a gun runner who he had never met before? Why her?
WC TESTIMONY OF SYLVIA ODIO
The testimony of Sylvia Odio was taken at 9 a.m., on July 22, 1964http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/odio.htm
Mrs. ODIO. No. I have told you I moved several times, and it is because of reasons of my work, and because my children at the time were in Puerto Rico, I and I went down to get them in Puerto Rico June 29th.
That was exactly the day that I saw Ray again. We had been trying to establish a contact in Dallas with Mr. Johnny Martin, who is from Uruguay. He is from there, and he had heard that I was involved in this movement. And he said that he had a lot of contacts in Latin America to buy arms, particularly in Brazil, and that if he were in contact with one of our chief leaders of the underground, he would be able to sell him second-hand arms that we could use in our revolution.And then... Lee Harvey Oswald shows up.
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- Donald Trump -
"The same people that raided Israel are pouring into our once beautiful USA through our totally open southern border at record numbers. These are the same people, many of them, that did a number in Israel, a sneak attack."
"Same people we have pouring into our country by the thousands. Are they planning to attack within our country?" Trump added. "Crooked Joe Biden and his boss Barack Hussein Obama did this to us. We cannot let this happen. They may be planning something very very bad...people are pouring in from the Middle East into our country, largely males, strong young males. What's going on over here? Are we going to be raided like Israel was raided?"We'd bettter put Donald Trump in charge of everything.
He'll save us.
Bless his soul.
They're coming by the thousands, don't you know.All those Husseins and everything.
Whatever happened to all the rapists and drug dealers and everything?
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-Donald Trump-
"THE ATTACK ON ISRAEL WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED, ZERO CHANCE, IF THE ELECTION OF 2020 WAS NOT RIGGED AND STOLLEN. IT SHOWS THE WORLD HOW IMPORTANT ELECTIONS ARE."
It's all about ME.
ME. ME. ME.
So, the next time you are tempted to Stoll an election, remember ME.
ME. ME. ME.
PS: Remember to get a good education in that large world that nobody knows about.
Steve Thomas
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- Donald Trump -
"We have the worst education almost in the large world, the world that people know about,”
Yup. As opposed to the large world that you don't know about, of course
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
That's it Steve. Still fascinating, and mysterious. Thanks.
Ron,
I don't think anyone has ever really explored a possible link between the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps and WRR (the radio station at the Fairgrounds).
Biggio and Stringfellow were manning the Special Service Bureau radio communications there on 11/22.
Stringfellow was identified as a source for information that 5' 10"", 165lb. Harvey Lee Oswald was a communist and had been to to Cuba, etc. etc. That communication went directly to the Intelligence people in Austin and bypassed the 112th MID in Dallas.
I find that very significant and suspicious.
Steve Thomas
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Trump tells court he had no duty to 'support' the Constitution as president
by Matthew Chapman October 11, 2023
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-wont-support-constitution/
“Former President Donald Trump is arguing to a judge in Colorado that he was not required to "support" the Constitution as president, reported Brandi Buchman from Law & Crime.
The argument came as he seeks to dismiss a lawsuit filed in the state by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), seeking to have him disqualified from the ballot in the state under the 14th Amendment. The Insurrection Clause of the amendment prohibits those who have "engaged in insurrection" against the United States from holding a civil, military, or elected office unless a two-thirds majority of the House and Senate approve.
But Trump's lawyers are arguing that the specific language of the Constitution argues that this requirement only applies to people in offices who are bound to "support" the Constitution — and the presidency is not one of those offices.
"The Presidential oath, which the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment surely knew, requires the President to swear to 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution — not to 'support' the Constitution," said the filing by Trump's attorneys. "Because the framers chose to define the group of people subject to Section Three by an oath to 'support' the Constitution of the United States, and not by an oath to 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution, the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment never intended for it to apply to the President."”
So there.
Steve Thomas
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8 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
I've read about this elsewhere some years back. On here, I think.
I've also re read recently it was a communications HQ for the DPD. If it was also used for maintaining Continuity In Government plans there is no telling who might have been there for what aspects of government. Military Intelligence, besides the 488th? CIA, State, maybe not FBI?
Ron,
You might be interested in this link:
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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:
Special services bureau, located underground at the Dallas Fairgrounds. Steve - is there a list of who was in the bureau?
Paul,
Yeah. Go to Batchelor's Exhibit# 5002 here:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1136#relPageId=138
It's on page 120.
Some of the names will be very familiar to you.
Steve Thomas
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I thought it was kind of interesting. I kind of figured the Personnel Bureau would have a Criminal Investigation Section to handle criminal background checks of police department applicants.
Turns out they did have an Investigations Section, only it was headed by a Sergeant.
See pp.403-404 of CD 1285
Just going by the Department Manual, and the number of Reports they had to write up, it seems like the heaviest load for the Dallas Police Department back then involved car theft and check forgery.
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Jean Ceulemans said:
I think there maybe was a typo there. Or another way to interprete this : each bureau (Hom./Robb./Juv/etc) did have a detective (1 or more) assigned to Criminal Intelligence.
That's how I see it. About page 393 perhaps Steve can explain
Jean,
The way I am thinking now is:
While the DPD's Operating Manual provided for the creation and operation of a Criminal Intelligence Section within each Bureau, the only Bureau that actually had one was the Special Service Bureau.
PP 393-395 lays out the duties and responsibilities of a Criminal Intelligence Section (including the responsibilities of a Lieutenant). However, when you get to page 396 where they talk about the kinds of reports that were supposed to be submitted, the only place they talk about is the Special Service Bureau.
Steve Thomas
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4 hours ago, Gerry Down said:
I guess the forgery department had to play a big role because of the fake cards in LHOs wallet.
Gerry,
On November 29th, Police Chief, Jesse Curry formed a Study Commission tasked with finding out how Ruby got into the basement.
That Study Commission was headed by Captain O.A. Jones of Forgery.
Forgery Bureau Detective, William Chambers interviewed the Three Tramps.
Lt. Elmo Cunningham, Detectives John Toney and Marvin Buhk (from Forgery) and a Detective E.E. Taylor were at the Trade Mart when they received word that a Police Officer had been shot. They hopped in a car and headed towards 10th and Patton when they heard that the suspect was in the Library, so they headed over there.
Marvin Buhk later wrote that Secret Service men told him that the Library suspect was the wrong guy. Toney, Cunningham and Buhk then headed over to the Theater. Toney and Cunningham helped search the Theater. Buhk stayed in the car to monitor the radio.
Cunningham later wrote that he interviewed several occupants of the Theater. It was later claimed that the list of Theater occupants was given to Cunningham. That list has disappeared.
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Jean Ceulemans said:
Criminal Intelligence had some 10 tot 14 people, they were detectives assigned from Homicide and the other Bureaus. So each bureau would assign a detective (at least one) to Criminal Intelligence. In stead of having a number of different Intell Sect they grouped it that way. I believe their offices were at a different location in the City
Jean,
You might be thinking of the Special Service Bureau. Their offices were located at the Fairgrounds. Everybody else was located at City Hall Downtown.
Steve Thomas
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Gerry,
See p. 31of CD 1285See p. 65 (p. 68 of 499) for the Organizational Chart of the Criminal intelligence Division
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11680#relPageId=68A Deputy Chief was in charge of a Division. The Deputy Chief for the CID was M.W. Stevenson.
A Captain was in charge of a Bureau within that Division, i.e. Will Fritz of the Homicide and Robbery BureaThe Duties and Responsibilities of a Lieutenant in the Criminal Investigation Division are outlined on p. 69 (p. 72 of 499) of CD 1285
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11680#relPageId=72
I' ve never understood why the Forgery people seemed to loom so large in the JFK case.
Now I understand. The scope of their responsibilities was really wide.
Everything from Dog Poisonings and Accosting a Female to Assault to Murder.
See p. 113 (p. 116 of 499)
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11680#relPageId=116
The Homicide and Robbery Bureau had two Platoons: First Platoon and Second Platoon. Each Platoon had an 8 hour shift.
A Lieutenant supervised each Platoon.
See p. 120 (p. 123 of 499)
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11680#relPageId=123
Page 123 only says that the Duties of a Lieutenant in the H&R Bureau is to be the Supervisory Officer of a Platoon.I can't see where the Homicide and Robbery Bureau had a Criminal Investigation Section.
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Gerry Down said:
So I assume the criminal intelligence section of the homicide and robbery bureau was different from the criminal intelligence section of the special service bureau. If there were two lieutenants in the homicide and robbery bureau I wonder if one of them was the official head of the criminal intelligence section there and the other headed another section in that bureau.
Gerry,
Personal History of Jack Ruby from Lieutenant, Ted P.Wells, Homicide to Captain Pat Gannway
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190109/?q="Ted Wells"Dated November 25, 1963
October 14, 1962 news article about the beating death of one, Freeman White McDonald.
Article refers to Lieutenant Ted Wells of Homicide.
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc959400/?q="Ted Wells"Neither of those two documents refer to Ted Wells as the Head of the Criminal Intelligence Section of the Homicide Bureau.
As strange as it seems, I'm not so sure Homicide had one.
I think k Fritz was it.
Steve Thomas
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1 hour ago, Gerry Down said:
Nice info. So each bureau was headed by a captain and each bureau had a criminal intelligence section headed by a lieutenant. With regard to the Homicide & Robbery bureau which was headed by Captain Will Fritz, who was the lieutenant in charge of the criminal intelligence section of that bureau?
Gerry,
The two Lieutenants in the Homicide and Robbery Bureau were:
Lieutenant, James A. Bohart; and,
Lieutenant, Ted P. Wells
Batchelor Exhibit 5002 Page 145 (page 28 of the pdf file)
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1136#relPageId=163
T.L. Baker is also listed as a Lieutenant in a June, 1964 FBI file, so I think he got promoted.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57047#relPageId=86&search="Ted_P. Wells"
There's a Facebook entry for Ted P. Wells in 2021 that reads:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/libertygroveremembered/posts/1578922325781927/
Rikki PulleyI see him standing in the back. Yes, it is he, and I have never seen this. He was a very smart person. Not too many people are double promoted twice and graduate from high school 2 years early. I worked with an attorney and former police officer who told me it was no easy feat to become a Lieutenant in the Homicide Department.This photo was taken by the Dallas Times Herald while Oswald was being questioned.
After-action Report of Leslie Montgomery Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits vol. XXIV (CE 2003) p. 314)
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1140#relPageId=332&search=Wells
I don't think Captain Fritz appointed either of his two Lieutenants to be in charge of the Criminal Intelligence Section, but rather assumed that role himself.
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Crichton said his 488th had 100 men, half of whom were members of the Dallas Police Departmet.
Who on the Dallas Police Department ever claimed to belong to Crichton's 488th?
Ever?
Who on the Dallas Police force was capapable of conducting international strategic oil reserve studies?
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Larry,
The list of TSBD employees was compiled by Ray Westphal and Preston Parks of the Special Service Bureau. It had Oswald as Harvey Lee Oswald at 605 Elsbeth.
No More Silence
Roy Westphal:
Says that it is his understanding the Hosty was trying to recruit Oswald as an informant because he had been to Russia. Says it didn't pan out.
He had gone home and realized that he hadn't written his Report on the man at the Trade Mart wanting to wave a “Free Cuba” sign and was denied that opportunity. He picked up Preston Parks and returned to the “office which was in a little building at Fair Park”. “As I was writing the Report, the Captain called and wanted to check the School Book Depository employee list with our files. We hand handwritten, partial lists; some of them you couldn't read the names. But we did find one, a member of the American GI Forum. The Captain then instructed me to bring the entire file down to his office.”
He recognized Joe Molina and helped serve a search warrant on him, but does not say anything about Harvey Lee Oswald and the 605 Elsbeth St. address.
Westphal told Sneed that, “Of course we didn't identify any of our informants to them (the FBI). We kept that secret because we didn't want them swiping them from us because the Feds had more money than us since our budget was very, very limited and they could pay their informants.”
So much for effective liaisoning.
These are the lists I believe that Westphal and Parks would have consulted:
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32 minutes ago, Larry Hancock said:
Actually I don't think that hour reference is at all true as far as the investigation by the DPD was concerned, they continued questioning people, picking up people like Molina and Frazier and examining evidence as long as they could before the FBI carted off much of it by midnight.
Larry,
I have mentioned this before, but
One of the most informative things I've read in a while is CD 852
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249
DOD Bartimo Letter of 24 Apr 1964 with Attachments
Starting on about the third page or so of this document is a copy of
Army Regulation 195-10 which spells out how the Army was supposed to liaison with other agencies. It talks about the Army, Navy, Air Force and FBI, but interestingly enough, leaves out the Secret Service.
Basically Army Regulation 195-10 is a How to Manual for conducting investigations of armed forces personnel: Who's got responsibility, who's got control, how the information flows, etc.
Look at Paragraph (9)(c)(1)(a) on the bottom of Page 5 of this CD. It says how Army Commanders are supposed to establish policies to establish "effective liaison" with other agencies and specifically mentions the ATTU.
The idea was not to step on each other's toes, and establish contact with an individual that some other agency was working, e.g. informants. I think in CIA jargon, it was called the “third party” rule.
As I sit here, I don't know if the FBI or the ATTU has such a Regulation they were supposed to be operating under, unless, as in the FBI’s case it would be in the FBI Manual.
Since so much of the Federal work in this case (like the FBI and the Secret Service) was grounded and built on the initial work the Dallas Police Department started, I got to wondering if the DPD had similar guidelines to what the Army had.
That's what led me to the DPD's Manual in CD 1285.
I didn't find any such guidelines in the General Manual, but did run across some interesting things like the Patrol Divisions requirement for Patrol Officer's to maintain a notebook.
A couple of other things I saw:
a) The Chief of Police himself promoted the motorcycle officers. They were beholden to him.
b) One of the perks for DPD employees was that they were each given two free golf passes per week
c) The DPD was insured by Lloyds of London
d) A Bureau was defined as "An operational group organized to perform a special function." In addition to the Special Service Bureau, there was also a Personnel Bureau and a Reserve Officers Bureau.
e) Each Bureau had their own Manual.
Page 394 Detectives in the Special Service Bureau
I suspect that any guidelines for how the Special Service Bureau was supposed to liaison with other agencies would be found in the Special Service Bureau Manual, which I haven't located.
e) Each Bureau had a Criminal Intelligence Section – Page 393
Page 394
f) The Special Service Bureau reported directly to the Chief of Police
Page 5 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11680#relPageId=8
g) While each Bureau was headed by a Captain, each Section within a Bureau was headed by a Lieutenant. The Criminal Intelligence Section of the Special Service Bureau was Lieutenant, Jack Revill.
When the Secret Service notified the Dallas Police Department that JFK would be visiting Dallas on November 22nd, it was Jack Revill who was tasked with investigating the known subversive groups in the area. He wrote up a report and submitted it to Captain Gannaway:
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340039/?q=Revill
I think one of the failures in the preparation for JFK's visit was that investigative efforts were concentrated on groups rather than "lone wolf" individuals.
Steve Thomas
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32 minutes ago, Larry Hancock said:
outstanding warrants related to the patrol area , stolen car tag numbers, recent robbery suspects, recent complaints from local residents that might server as something to watch for
Larry,
BOLO.
To my untrained eye, it looks like there is only one piece of paper on that clipboard.
I still wonder about the notebook where he was supposed to be keeping notes of other things he did that day.
Steve Thomas
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45 minutes ago, James Keane said:
From description above it sounds like this is what you are referring to in your post?James,
It sure sounds like it.
I would have thought that that was something that somebody would have wanted to subpoena.
I don't remember it being among the DPD case file materials that the DPD turned over to the Texas State Attorney General in CD 81.
Steve Thomas
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Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa on Saturday claimed that President Joe Biden would "go down" if the two were to physically fight.
"I have a much better body than him," the former president said at the rally.
"I could just... and he'd go down," Trump said while on stage, flicking the air.
Sounds like all of the qualities I'm looking for in a President.
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:
Great question Steve. Wonder if anyone knows? First thing that comes to my mind is his ‘alibi’ for where he was late morning on Nov 22. Since he was supposedly bringing a shoplifter into a police station, and as I recall there are no official records of that incident, only the shop owners decade later statement to the effect that Tippit was the officer who showed up in response to his phone call to the police reporting the shoplifter, such a notebook might clarify this.
Paul,
He might have explained the stop at the gas station, and his attempted use of the phone at the record store.
Steve Thomas
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From:
CD 1285 DPD "Departmental Manual of Operating Procedure
Responsibilities and Duties of a Patrolman in the Patrol Division Page 45
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11680#relPageId=48
J.D Tippit was a Patrolman in the Second Platoon, Patrol Division, Southwest Area Substation
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf
I don't ever remember seeing it, or anybody ever quoting from it.
Steve Thomas
MAINSTREAM COOLER - For those who believe mainstream contemporary facts.
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Why it's impossible for right-wing governments to handle a crisis
byThom Hartmann October 18, 2023
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/right-wing-government/
“The common denominator between Bush, Netanyahu, and Trump — and all the unnecessary deaths on all their watches — is that all three are corrupt far-right demagogic politicians who put their own personal wealth and power above the good of their nation.
That is, by and large, the norm for rightwing governments worldwide. Because they generally rule against the will of large parts of their populations, they instead spend their time figuring out ways to raid the public treasury or exploit their position in government to hang onto power.”
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