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5 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:
I've seen it. Caption or date? Prison attire?
They wore street clothes.
Here's another one:
Les 3 Hongrois
de l'attentat du Petit-Clamart
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Gijola SARI
Lajos MARTON
Laszlo VARGA.Go here and look at pictures of the interior of Re:. They're standing up on the second or third floor of the catwalk.
https://deltas-collines.org/galerie/COURSIVES
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5 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:
But you don't have photos of Marton and/or Varga in prison?
How's this one? That's a guard tower in the background. btw.
Lazlo VARGA
Lajos MARTON
Jean-Marc ROUVIERE
lors d'un barbecueSteve Thomas
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5 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:
I think you, or another ed forum member recently reposted a fairly obscure photo alleged to be shot inside a prison environment. Memory serves, men in the photo are relevant to this discussion? Does anyone have the date stamp or the caption of the photo?
Leslie,
Those are all pictures taken from inside the prison at Satint Martin de Re, sometime between 1963 and 1968.
You can go here, and search by name:
https://deltas-collines.org/galerie/COMBATTANTS
The entries under Laszlo Varga have the mosts shots of Varga, Marton and Sari.
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Charles M. Cooke, National Review
"Donald Trump will happily burn down anything that stands between himself and his desire to lose yet another election for the GOP..."
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Gyula Sari
Appreared before the Court of Military Justice on June 24, 1963 and was sentenced to 20 years in prison on June 26, 1963.
Sari et Bernier le 24 juin à la Cour militaire de justice
Steve Thomas
He was sentenced 0n June 26, 1963 to 20 years in prison.
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9 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:
I'm aware of the contradiction, and I think we discussed Varga and Marton on a separate thread.
Are you familiar with the following? And/or do you have proof that the SAC member lied, or that the referenced document is bogus?
About mid-1963, according to a former member of SAC [de Gaulle’s special anti-OAS police], who knew Souetre very well, Souetre did the following in April-May, 1963:
(a) met [the CIA’s] Howard Hunt and Jean Claude Perez (Chief of ORO) in Madrid (b) went to the Caribbean with Laszlo Varga, Lajos Marton, and [a person with the last name] Buscia; (c) went to New Orleans and met with Carlos Bringuier [
NOTE. Lafitte May 9 entry. . . On November 12, 1963, former French army commando and paratrooper Jean Rene Marie Souetre—and two associates, both Hungarians, Laslo Vango [Laszlo Varga] and Lajos LNU [Marton],
Leslie,
1) Consider the source. SAC really?
2) Laszlo Varga couldn't have gone to thr Caribbean in the April-May, 1963 time frame. He was in prison.
3) Did Hunt ever say he ever met with Souetre? Did Souetre ever say he ever met with Hunt?
4) Lejos Marton could not have gone to Mexico on November 12, 1963. Tried in absentia in January of 1963, he had been arrested in September of that year. Varga was already in prison.
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38 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:
Steve, can you spell out the specifics of why you doubt that the OAS was an element of the Dallas plot?
Leslie,
I didn't say all of the OAS. I said, some of the same men.
For instance, over the years, I have seen some people suggest that Laszlo Varga was there.
However, Laszlo Varga was tried for the attack at Petit Clamart in January of 1963, was imprisoned in Saint Martin de Re, and would not be released until November of 1967.
http://deltas-collines.org/galerie/QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
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There are some people who believe that some of the same people were involved in both plots.
I, myself, do not believe that to be the case, but there are some who do.
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I've thought about it, and I don't think I am going to be asking anyone's permission to see if my post is "appropriate" before I say anything in this, or any other forum.
Steve Thomas
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- Donald Trump -
"It was all made up by a convicted nut job with zero credibility, who has been disputed by highly respected professionals at every turn," Trump posted. "Bragg refuses to stop despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. He is a [George] Soros backed animal who just doesn't care about right or wrong no matter how many people are hurt. This is no legal system, this is the Gestapo, this is Russia and China, but worse. Disgraceful!"
"Everybody knows I'm 100% innocent, including Bragg, but he doesn't care," he posted. "He is just carrying out plans of the radical left lunatics. Our country is being destroyed, as they tell us to be peaceful!"
"lunatics". "nut jobs", "animals"
Donald Trump sure is full of... lunacy these days
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2 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:
I think it would be better for you address the editing issues with Ralph directly. Unfortunately, it's a contemporary phenomenon among independent publishers struggling to remain independent and solvent. I also think it's unreasonable to throw a book down after three pages when it's clear the author's primary source material has been vetted by highly regarded auctioneers.
And, you haven't shared your opinion of Gary and Bud's pursuit, perhaps again by choice?Leslie,
Ganis identified General Clement as the Camp Commandant of the St. Maurice L'Ardoise prison camp.
In reality, General Claude Clement Was the Witness (or as we call it, the best man) at Souetre's wedding. He was the Deputy Commander of the Ninth Military District.
In an interview with Claude Clement in 1971, entitled, "The Greening of a Nato General",
http://books.google.com/books?id=fM7a-OBysYcC&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq=%22General+Claude+Clement%22&source=bl&ots=-yJRztgOJQ&sig=CWLOp3037ENeOuPdg-EY7_xRM_k&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_fUJU8qkOOHOyQHRl4FI&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22General%20Claude%20Clement%22&f=false
pp. 301-304.
author Sandro Ottolenghi identifies General Clement this way:
Ganis doesn't know what he is talking about.
As far as Bud Fensterwald goes, as I've said before, I believe he was led down the garden path by Gilbert Levavalier, a sworn enemy of the OAS.
PS: And as far as contacting Ganis directly, may I respectfully suggest you do that. You're the one using him as a source.
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29 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:
Why would French authorities be tracking his whereabouts if he wasn't a known assassin? Why would Hoover have received reports in April and May related to the Alderson's in Houston with reference to the 201 file of Souetre if he was merely a soldier who might have killed in combat? Wasn't he asking CIA for assistance to take out de Gaulle?
Major Ralph Ganis picked up the investigation of Souetre and makes no bones about identifying him as a trained assassin with close association with Otto Skorzeny.
Leslie,
You can say "alleged:. or "suspected of" all day long, and I would not have a problem with that.
Heck, at one time, he was one of the most wanted men in France. As I pointed out in an earlier post, France supplied the names of OAS members to both the West German and Italian authorities in 1962 in advance of DeGaulle's visits to both those countries. As Joachim Joesten points out in his book, DeGaulle and His Murders,
"Suspected to have played a leading part in planning the attack" is not the same thing as saying he was one of the shooters.
As for Ganis, someone sent me what Ganis wrote, and I threw it down in disgust after the first three pages or so. Ganis had Souetre's birthplace wrong, he misspelled his wife's name. he got Soutre's military service career wrong, and the prison Souetre was sent to wrong.
Ganis doesn't, or didn't know the first thing about Souetre.
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42 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:
Steve. I detect incredulity. Maybe you would share your definition of "assassin" and we go from there?
And I can't resist asking, why are you defensive about Souetre?Don-t throw this back on me.
You called someone a "known assassin". You could have said, "suspected", or "believed by some to be", but you said, "known"
I'd like to find out how you "know" this. Who is he supposed to have "assassinated"?
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16 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:
We also see, perhaps for the first time outside of cryptic reports that revealed a smattering of facts, that the FBI was made aware of the possibility that known assassin Jean Souetre had been in Dallas.
Leslie,
You write that Jean-Rene Souetre was a "known assassin".
To the best of my knowledge, Jean-Rene Souetre never killed anyone.
You write, Jean-Rene Souetre was a "known assassin".
Who did he kill?
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We know who the leader was.
It was Donald Trump himself.
He made it all up.
His spokesperson said that Trump has not received any word that he will be indicted, let alone arrested.
The DA's office has another witness coming in on Monday, and the Grand Jury only meets on Mondays and Wednesdays.
Bragg still has to present his case and ask the Grand Jury to submit a bill.
Trump just can't stand not being the center of attention, and just wanted to get everyone all stirred up.
He doesn't care how many people might get hurt in the process.
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- Marjorie Taylor Greene -
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1637076244708614144
“The American people deserve a government that actually works for them NOT a bunch of self centered communists who bail out their donors, protect the elites, and weld their power to punish their political enemies!”
How dare you go welding your power?
Is that what I sent you to welding school for?
I should have sent to to knighting school, so you could learn how to knight and make blankets and stuff, and not waste your time on all this power welding foolishness!
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1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:
Expects to be arrested Tuesday
Trump says he expects to be arrested, calls for protest | AP News
From the same AP article"
"Within hours, he sent a fundraising email to supporters..."
As Kellyanne Conway once famously said, "Oh well, might as well sell a few dresses."
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Citing staffing issues and political climate, North Idaho hospital will no longer deliver babies
Kelcie Moseley-Morris, Idaho Capital Sun March 18, 2023
https://www.rawstory.com/north-idaho-hospital/
“Idaho’s Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, announced Friday afternoon that it will no longer provide obstetrical services to the city of more than 9,000 people, meaning patients will have to drive 46 miles for labor and delivery care moving forward.
“We have made every effort to avoid eliminating these services,” said Ford Elsaesser, the hospital’s board president, in a news release. “We hoped to be the exception, but our challenges are impossible to overcome now.” “
“Idaho has one of the most restrictive abortion bans in the country, with affirmative defenses in court only for documented instances of rape, incest or to save the pregnant person’s life. Physicians are subject to felony charges and the revocation of their medical license for violating the statute, which the Idaho Supreme Court determined is constitutional in January.
“The Idaho Legislature continues to introduce and pass bills that criminalize physicians for medical care nationally recognized as the standard of care,” the hospital’s news release said. “Consequences for Idaho physicians providing the standard of care may include civil litigation and criminal prosecution, leading to jail time or fines.”
Dr. Amelia Huntsberger, an obstetrician-gynecologist at Bonner General Health, said in an email to States Newsroom that she will soon leave the hospital and the state because of the abortion laws as well as the Idaho Legislature’s decision not to continue the state’s maternal mortality review committee.
“What a sad, sad state of affairs for our community,” Huntsberger wrote.”
This is just barbaric.
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On 3/14/2023 at 11:11 AM, Steve Thomas said:
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New Trump campaign video
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110039694340848312
"I got rid of the death tax on farms so that when you do pass away, on the assumption that you love your children, you can leave it to them and they won't have to pay tax, But if you don't love your children so much, and there are some people that don't, and maybe deservedly so, it won't matter, because frankly you won't have to leave them anything."
"Thank you very much, have fun!"Steve Th9mas
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Ukraine invites Ron DeSantis to Bakhmut to see what a territorial dispute looks like.
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https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-ethics-complaint/
Make America Great Again Inc. will file a 15-page complaint Wednesday with the Florida Commission on Ethics formally accusing the Republican governor of violating state ethics and election laws with his “shadow presidential campaign," according to a draft obtained by NBC News.
"Certain activities related to Governor DeSantis’s ascension to the national stage, insofar as they are funded by a vast network of political committees, non-profit organizations, and prominent political operatives, are unlawful because they serve his personal political objectives, are in furtherance of his personal financial gain at the expense of Florida taxpayers, and are intended to influence his official decision to resign from office," the complaint states.
"Governor DeSantis’s failure to declare his candidacy is no mere oversight; it is a coordinated effort specifically designed for him to accept, as unethical gifts, illegal campaign contributions and certain personal benefits that are necessarily intended to influence his official decision to resign from office under Florida’s resign to run law," the complaint alleges. "Governor DeSantis’s ham-handed maneuverings have rendered him irreparably conflicted and have left the statehouse vacant."
The horror!
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The Attempted Assassination of Charles deGaulle
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Leslie,
I don't know the exact date. The photographer didn't date them; but you've seen pictures of the prison, you've seen pictures of the men in the prison. You know when they went in and when they came out.
As far as sosmeone feeding Fensterwald false information, I've told you about Gilbert Lecavalier.
Steve Thomas