Steve Thomas

February 17, 2023

27 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Yes I get that he might have lied. But I don’t see pics of them in jail on the website. My other question - do you think Souetre took part in assassination teams targeting DeGaulle?

Paul,

If you go here: https://deltas-collines.org/galerie/VARGA

you will see several pictures of Varga, Marton and Sari in the prison at Re.

I know that for several weeks after the attack on DeGaulle at Petit-Clamart in August of 1962, the police and press suspected Souetre of being involved, but at that time, he was one of the most wanted men in France due to his escape from the prison camp at St. Maurice de L'Ardoise in February of that year..

Nothing was ever proven that he was at Petit-Clamart.

Steve Thomas

February 17, 2023

10 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Steve - maybe so. But the picture is certainly not taken from jail. I’m actually not sure what you are getting at. Are you saying that Souetre wasn’t involved in the assassination attempts against DeGaulle? Or that he couldn’t have been in the US or Caribbean because these three Hungarians were in jail at the time? Or something else?

Paul,

Did you go to the web site I provided?

These pictures are all from the prison.

These men could not have been with Souetre in the Caribbean in 1963.

Souetre might have been. (He was the manager of a sugar refinery in Martinique), but they weren't with him as the guy from SAC (Cavalier probably) told Fensterwald.

If Cavalier lied about that, what else did he lie about? Souetre meeting with Hunt? Souetre in New Orleans?

Steve Thomas

February 17, 2023

Fox News got election fraud info from woman who claims she got it through 'time travel' lawsuit

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-lawsuit-2659431124/
"This detail of the Dominion lawsuit was first flagged by NBC News' Ben Collins on Thursday, as part of a segment Dominion highlighted between pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell and Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, who was communicating with her and amplifying her message on her program.

Powell's source ... explained that she gets her information from experiencing something 'like time-travel in a semi-conscious state,' allowing her to 'see what others don't see, and hear what others don't hear,' and she received messages from 'the wind,'" stated the lawsuit.
"Bartiromo read this email at the time: she responded to Powell saying she had shared this 'very imp[ortant] info' with Eric Trump," the complaint continued."Fox News got election fraud info from woman who claims she got it through 'time

"This detail of the Dominion lawsuit was first flagged by NBC News' Ben Collins on Thursday, as part of a segment Dominion highlighted between pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell and Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, who was communicating with her and amplifying her message on her program.
"Powell's source ... explained that she gets her information from experiencing something 'like time-travel in a semi-conscious state,' allowing her to 'see what others don't see, and hear what others don't hear,' and she received messages from 'the wind,'" stated the lawsuit.
"Bartiromo read this email at the time: she responded to Powell saying she had shared this 'very imp[ortant] info' with Eric Trump," the complaint continued."

Oh, well, in that case...

Steve Thomas

February 16, 2023

[Marjoram Taylor] Greene says people are calling the alarms about how wind turbines are killing whales and unknown thousands of bird species

“I don’t know why AOC isn’t dressed in white crying for the dead whales.”

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1625702261694365698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

thousands of bird species...

People are calling, you know.

Steve Thomas

February 16, 2023

18 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Paul

Chuck Scwartz in the Education Forum April 18, 2016
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22775-jean-rene-souetre-aka-robin-hood/
"This is from the Fensterwald memo:
A French Police person from "SAC"
who knew Souetre very well, Souetre did the following in April-May, 1963:
a) met Howard Hunt and Jean Claude Perez (Chief of ORO) in Madrid; went
to the Caribbean with Laszlo Varga, Lajos Marton, and Buscia;"

Ps: I don't know they could have been in the Caribbean with Souetre at the same time they were in prison in France.
Steve Thomas

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Gijola SARI, Lajos MARTON, Laszlo VARGA

Imprisoned at SAINT MARTIN de RE on the Ile de RE

https://deltas-collines.org/galerie/REDEUX/Gijola_SARI

They would all be jailed for the attack on DeGaulle at Petit Clamart in August, 1962.

Varga would be in jail until 1967, and Sari until 1968

I think what the "French policeman from SAC" was trying to do with Fensterwald was attempting to smear Souetre by tying him to the perpetrators of the attack on DeGaulle at Petit Clamart.

Steve Thomas

February 16, 2023

1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

So Shackley was involved in the Hungarian operation. Presumably in 1956, and he surely knew Dorothe Matlack because of that. I’ll point out that Brandstetter was Hungarian. And didn’t I read in Coup that Souetre worked with a coupe of Hungarians in OAS attempts against DeGaulle? Not to cast aspersions on Hungarians, just wondering if any of this ties together.

Paul

Chuck Scwartz in the Education Forum April 18, 2016
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22775-jean-rene-souetre-aka-robin-hood/
"This is from the Fensterwald memo:
A French Police person from "SAC"
who knew Souetre very well, Souetre did the following in April-May, 1963:
a) met Howard Hunt and Jean Claude Perez (Chief of ORO) in Madrid; went
to the Caribbean with Laszlo Varga, Lajos Marton, and Buscia;"

"In the period 1964-1966, Souetre headed the Societe Expinmaq in Madrid;
it was a "soueti de traveaux publics," furnishing work and cover for OAS
veterans and exiles, such as Varga, Marton, and Sari.12/"
Laszlo Varga, Lajos Marton, and Gijola Sari were all Hungarians and would be imprisoned for the attack on Charles DeGaulle at Petit-Clamart in August, 1962.
https://deltas-collines.org/galerie/VARGA

The French Foreign Legion (who played a large role in the Revolt of the Generals in April, 1961), and later the OAS had many Hungarians in their ranks.

Ps: I don't know they could have been in the Caribbean with Souetre at the same time they were in prison in France.
Steve Thomas

February 16, 2023

Raquel Welch has died and the world is a sadder place.

Steve Thomas

February 15, 2023

Samuel (Sam) Goodhue Kail

Posted by James Richards on July 11, 2007 (edited) in the Education Forum

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/10469-sam-kail/

Also, I am re-reading "The Last Investigation". Has anyone here ever interviewed Col. Sam Kail? I would like to know more about him and his connection to David Phillips. Thanks (John Bockmon)

So not to divert the 'What's It Going To Take' thread, I thought I would start a new one.

Sam Kail is one of the more interesting characters.

Born in Huntington, West Virginia, he graduated from the Huntington High School. He received a bachelor of science degree from the U.S. Military Academy in West Point. Kail was also a graduate of the U.S. Army Infantry School, Command and General Staff College and the U.S. Army War College. He also attended the Southern Methodist University.

Kail retired in 1969.

From 1970 until 1972, he served as the Republican Party Precinct 159 Chairman. In 1972, he campaigned for the Republican nomination to state House District 33-E.

Kail was the president of the West Point Society of North Texas, a vice president in the Dallas chapter of the Association of the U.S. Army, and a member of the Retired Officers Association.

In 1960, he was stationed in Havana and according to Antonio Veciana, Maurice Bishop sent Veciana to meet with Kail regarding official support. Kail said they would speak in more detail in Dallas later. I'm not sure if that meeting ever took place but Veciana felt that Kail and Bishop were well acquainted.

In 1959, an arrest order in Havana was issued for David Morales (aka Stanley Zamka). Kail was the one who handled the Cubans as Morales obviously got out.

Sam Kail was rarely photographed but this is him below. (photo not included)

Kail's son, Samuel Kail Jr. is an army man and probably worth tracking down.

FWIW.

James

Edited July 11, 2007 by James Richards

Cryptonym: JMFIG

JMFIG is defined as the "Opa-locka Naval Base. Opa-locka CAC (note: Caribbean Admissions Center)

https://www.maryferrell.org/php/cryptdb.php?id=JMFIG

198-10004-10157 MOVEMENT OF THE CARIBBEAN ADMISSION CENTER (CAC) 1

Background on the use of the Opa-locka facility. "The Caribbean Admission Center was established in March 1962 as a joint DOD/CIA operation under CIA operational control and Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) cover..." See https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=19773#relPageId=10&tab=page

- it shows that "CIA's Domestic Contact Division (DCD) had primary responsibility for obtaining positive intelligence interest from refugees." DCD officers conducted interviews with refugees at the CAC.

124-90019-10155: No Title

Deputy Chief of the CAC is Colonel Sam Kail.

198-10004-10153: TRIP REPORT

Colonel Sam Kail and Lt. Col. Trudencio Ulibarri are described as "the two top men" at CAC.

104-10069-10185: OPERATIO.NAL: AGREED ACTIVITIES W/ACSI

See this document for further details on Kail and Ulibarri and the relationship between CIA and DOD.

198-10004-10153: TRIP REPORT

6/30/63 from Lt. Col. James Patchell to Joseph Califano: Describes visit to CAC, operations led by Colonel Sam Kail and Lt. Col. Ulibarri. Julian Gleichauf, CIA chief of field office, is also the Director of CAC. "It is a military operation under CIA management."

Brandy, Our Man in Acapulco: The Life and Times of Colonel ...

books.google.com › books

Rodney P. Carlisle, ‎Dominic J. Monetta · 1999

Found inside – Page 158

The Life and Times of Colonel Frank M. Brandstetter Rodney P. Carlisle, Dominic J. Monetta ... Meanwhile , he kept in touch with Colonel William Rose at the Pen- tagon office of the Assistant Chief of Staff - Intelligence .

Steve Thomas

February 14, 2023

5 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Btw it was probably Dorothe Matlack, ACSI - Army chief of staff Intelligence at the Pentagon. She pops up later in what Joan Mellen dug up in Our Man in Haiti, which is that she was present with George DeMohrenschildt along with a few others in the spring of 1963.

Paul,

Dorothea's name pops up several times in connection with Sam Kail, another one of those pesky Colonels.

Steve Thomas

February 14, 2023

2 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Steve - thanks for locating the thread where I quoted the oral history on Crichton that was actually misfiled in the 6th floor museum because they misspelled Crichton. It seems to me that wondering about whether Crichton’s Intelligence Unit was the 488th MID misses the main point, which is looking closely at Crichton and his association with DPD detectives. Btw it was probably Dorothe Matlack, ACSI - Army chief of staff Intelligence at the Pentagon. She pops up later in what Joan Mellen dug up in Our Man in Haiti, which is that she was present with George DeMohrenschildt along with a few others in the spring of 1963. I don’t have the book in front of me now. Dorothe wasn’t Brandstetter’s ACSI ‘big brother’ that he reported to for decades, the one that assigned him to the 488th after he returned from Cuba. That was some other Colonel.

Paul,

His name was Rose (his first name escapes me at the moment).

Steve

February 14, 2023

8 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

I'm curious if you concur that Col. Whitmeyer was in Crichton's 488th, as was Frank "Brandy" Brandstetter who also appears in Lafitte's records?

Leslie,

On August 9, 2021, Paul Brancato wrote an entry in Education Forum in the Thread entitled,
"Were Dallas Police officers involved in the murder of President Kennedy ?"
See page 3.

Paul wrote,
"Steve et al - I received Jack Crichton’s oral history transcript. The key sentence, in describing how Colonel Lumpkin, Deputy police chief, called him on the evening of Nov 22 to ask if he knew a Russian interpreter for Marina. Quote - “ He (Lumpkin) was Deputy Chief of Police at that time. But he also had an Intelligence unit. And I, at that time, I was CO of the 488th Strategic Intelligence Unit. And I had previously been a CO of a counter-intelligence detachment here in Dallas and about 100 people in that unit and about 40 or 50 of them were from the Dallas Police Department."

It is my contention that a "Strategic Intelligence Unit" is not the same thing as a Military Intelligence Detachment ( MID) of the U.S. Army.
From what Paul has researched about Frank Brandstetter, I believe that he did work with Jack Crichton, but Whitmeyer, I'm not so sure.
Crichton can claim that 40-50 DPD officers were in his "Strategic Intekkigence Unit", but I don't ever remember any actual Police Officer saying, "Yes, I was a member of Crichton's group."
In his WC testimony, Winston Lawson said that George Whitmeyer "taught Army intelligence".
I have suggested that George Whitmeyer taught Army intelligence at the 4150th USAR Training School in Dallas, where he lived and where George Lumpkin was the Commandant.
See this thread on the 4150th:
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25557-4150th/#comment-395116

Steve Thomas

February 14, 2023

3 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Percentages aside — and I'm not discounting our misleading preface to Crichton's own statement — I'm interested in your reaction to the fact that the 488th trained at the Pentagon in July of 1963, and that evidence secured by Hank Albarelli establishes Crichton's involvement in the plan to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas?

Leslie,

Taking your second question first, I have not read the work of Hank Albarelli, so I cannot intelligently comment on it.

With respect to your first question, Paul Brancato and I have gone round and round on this through the years.

It's my opinion that Jack Crichton's 488th is the product of his overworked and fevered imagination.

There was a real 488th Military Intelligence Detachment, (MID) and it did report to the Defence Intelligence Agency, but it wasn't Crichton's. He co-opted the name.

See page 20 of this Forum thread:

I correspnded with Thomas Cagley for several years and he told me that Crichton's 488th was more like a social club (like a VFW) than a real MID. Since Crichton did have an in with the Assistant Director of Intelligence (please forgive me, I can't remember the official title at the moment), Chrichton's 488th could well have trained at the Pentagon for a. couple of summers.

I once asked Colonel Cagley, "when you signed your name to something, or sent a letter to someone, how would you have signed that document?"

I don't have my notes with me at the moment, but his response was nothing like I have ever seen coming from Chrichton.

Steve Thomas

February 13, 2023

1 hour ago, Leslie Sharp said:

. It has been repeatedly estimated that at least fifty percent of the Dallas Police Department’s officers and detectives were members of the 488^th Intelligence Detachment. During an interview about the 488^th, Crichton claimed there were “about a hundred men in the unit and about forty or fifty of them were from the Dallas Police Department.”

Leslie,

The two statements cannot be simultaneously true.

Batchelor's Exhibit# 5002 in the Warren Report alone lists over 600 Officers in the DPD in 1963.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf

Steve Thomas

February 13, 2023

Judge to release parts of Georgia special grand jury report

By KATE BRUMBACK 02/13/23

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-georgia-grand-jury-fb2b882c3f404c196b73bc637e7cb32d?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_06

ATLANTA (AP) — "A judge has ordered the release of parts of a report produced by a special grand jury that investigated efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn his narrow 2020 election loss in Georgia.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney announced the decision on Monday, three weeks after hearing arguments from prosecutors, who urged the report be kept secret until they decide on charges, and a coalition of media organizations, which pressed for its release.

McBurney said the introduction and conclusion of the report, as well as a section in which the grand jurors expressed concerns that some witnesses may have lied under oath, will be released Thursday."

Steve Thomas

February 13, 2023

I sure hope we are not shooting down extraterrestrial probes and pissing off some alien race somewhere.

Steve Thomas

February 12, 2023

Newspaper articles at the time reported that Josette Souetre was arrested at the Spanish/French frontier border town of Perthus on March 9, 1963 and charged with having a fake passport. An article on the previous day (March 12^th) said that she was arrested on Friday (which would have been March 8^th). She said that she was trying to get back into France to file for a divorce.

The article said that she was accompanied by her parents, but make no mention of children.

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• LE PERTHUS : Mme Souètre appréhendée avec un faux passeport.

Mme Josette Souètre, femme du capitaine qui, après s'être évadé l'an dernier du camp de l'Ardoise, a rejoint les rangs de l'O.A.S., a été arrêtée vendredi après-midi au poste frontière du Perthus (Pyrénées-Orientales), alors qu'elle tentait de passer d'Espagne en France avec un faux passeport.

Venant probablement de Barcelone, elle était accompagnée de ses parents, M. et Mme Marcailhou d'Aymerie.

Autorisée à déjeuner sous surveillance au Perthus, elle fut ensuite conduite à Perpignan où elle est gardée au commissariat central pour usage de faux passeport. Aucune autre charge n'a été retenue contre elle pour l'instant.

Jacques VILLARD is a genealogist and a chronicler of the OAS.

He put together a genealogy of Jean-Rene Marie Souetre and his son, Yannick Souetre.

Jean-Rene https://gw.geneanet.org/jvillard1?lang=fr&n=souetre&oc=0&p=jean+rene+marie

Yannick https://gw.geneanet.org/jvillard1?lang=fr&pz=jacques+roger+joseph+arsene&nz=villard&p=yannick&n=souetre

According to Villard, Yannick was born on October 7, 1964 in Palma de Mallorca.

Josette was his mother.

Né le 7 octobre 1964 (mercredi) - Palma de Mallorca, , Islas Baleares, Islas Baleares, Espagne

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of Villard. He has Jean-Rene being born in 1931 instead of 1930, and lists his date of death as June 18^th, instead of June 15^th. (Jean-Rene died on June 15, 2001, but, for some reason, his death certificate wasn’t signed until June 18th)

However, several other sources said that Jean-Rene moved to Palma de Majorqu from Madrid, so it is conceivable that that is where Yannick was born.

Josette and Jean-Rene would ultimately divorce and Jean-Rene married a third time in 1972 to a woman named, Françoise Marie Agnès HOURTIC

http://jeanjviala.free.fr/1963 a 1965.htm

Le colonel Broizat vivait à Madrid, Joseph Ortiz, le docteur Kovacs, Jacques Achard et Jean-René Souètre à Palma de Majorque,

Author:
Vincent Quivy

“In the autumn of 1963, however, he received 1 million old francs which enabled him to buy a business on the beach in Palma de Mallorca, Spain.”

http://paras.forumsactifs.net/t13070-grand-combattant-jean-souetre

by Commandoair40 June

Le colonel Broizat vivait à Madrid, Joseph Ortiz, le docteur Kovacs, Jacques Achard et Jean René Souetre à Palma de Majorque,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palma,_Majorca

“Palma de Mallorca is the major city and capital city of the autonomous community of the Balearic Islands in Spain. It is situated on the south coast of the island on the Bay of Palma. As of the 2009 census, the population of the city of Palma proper was 401,270, and the population of the entire urban area was 517,285, ranking as the twelfth largest urban area of Spain.”

Souetre would return to Palma de Majorque in 1971 after his sojourn in Africa with the Tschombe affair.

OAS-Madrid
OAS-Madrid http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_armée_secrète

Dissident group claiming the central leadership of the OAS.
Some members of the Madrid group quickly arrested by Spanish police (Guardia Civil).
Pierre Lagaillarde, MP
Joseph Ortiz
Colonel Antoine Argoud, who became deputy Georges Bidault, Minister
Colonel Charles Lacheroy

There is this information, but I have never seen this information about the WILL-KILL company anywhere else, so I can’t corroborate it, other than what Vincent Quivy said about Soetre receiving 1 million francs in the autumn of 1963 to buy a business in Palma de Mallorca.

Souetre was given the rank of Major by Moiishe Tshombe in the Congolese struggles, and went by the name of Major Constant.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/S%20Disk/Souetre%20Jean%20with%20aka's/Item%2010.pdf

This was in the Weisberg Collection – Item10 – author unknown. Letter to Fensterwald?

Was this letter from Louis Assemat-Tessandier?

“As I already have written you, SOUETRE officially resided in Spain from 1962 to 1971. He had two firms and shares in a third, that of Commander CONSTANT, whose identity he used. The first was domiciled Palma Nova de Majorque and was a business, the, domiciled at Madrid, was an extermination and fumigation company, "Will-Kill". This company hired most of the survivors of the Delta group. More particularly the Hungarian group, whose principal members were LASLO VARGA, MARTON and GUYLA SARI. “

I thought the idea of Joseph Ortiz following Souetre from Madrid to Palma de Mallorque was interesting and would like to research him a little.

For a little while, I was researching a person named Yannick Souetre, who was a graphic artist in the fantasy computer games world. His artwork was very good, but I was not able to determine if this Yannick was the son of Jean-Rene.

Steve Thomas

February 12, 2023

It's been a long time since I looked into this, but I remember that Josette had gone on to become an accomplished bridge player and had been in several tournaments.

Steve ThomasI

February 9, 2023

Andy Biggs skips classified spy balloon briefing so he can go on Fox News and whine about it

by David Edwards February 09, 2023

https://www.rawstory.com/andy-biggs-spy-balloon/

“Fox News host Harris Faulkner began her interview with Biggs on Thursday by telling the audience that he had just returned from a classified briefing on the airship.

"I know that some of it is classified; you can't share all of it, but what can you tell us?" Faulkner asked.

"Well, I'm not going to — I didn't go to that classified briefing because I knew I'd be talking to you," Biggs said. "Instead, I had a discussion yesterday."

The congressman did not say who had briefed him, but he offered conclusions about the spy flight”.

“Faulkner thanked Biggs for skipping the classified briefing "so you could share so much with the Faulkner Focus."”

These people are so full of it, I can't hardlly STAND it.

Steve Thomas

February 9, 2023

'Conspiracy of dunces': CNN panel torches 'idiot' Republican narratives about Twitter

by Brad Reed February 09, 2023

https://www.rawstory.com/republican-twitter-hearing/

“Scott Galloway, a professor of marketing at the New York University Stern School of Business, was even more blunt in his assessment of the House GOP's [House Oversight Committee] hearing.

"The only conspiracy here is a conspiracy of dunces," he declared. "This communicates to every Chinese official: 'Send more balloons, these people are idiots."”

Steve Thomas

February 9, 2023

I am a human being.

I am not a Chatbot.

And what are we going to when Chatbots start talking to each other and insulting each other's mothers?

Chatbot
http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot
Politics
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See also: Government by algorithm § AI politicians
In New Zealand, the chatbot SAM – short for Semantic Analysis Machine[55] (made by Nick Gerritsen of Touchtech[56]) – has been developed. It is designed to share its political thoughts, for example on topics such as climate change, healthcare and education, etc. It talks to people through Facebook Messenger.[57][58][59][60]

In 2022, the chatbot "Leader Lars" or "Leder Lars" was nominated for The Synthetic Party to run in the Danish parliamentary election,[61] and was built by the artist collective Computer Lars.[62] Leader Lars differed from earlier virtual politicians by leading a political party and by not pretending to be an objective candidate.[63] This chatbot engaged in critical discussions on politics with users from around the world.[64]

In India, the state government has launched a chatbot for its Aaple Sarkar platform,[65] which provides conversational access to information regarding public services managed.[66][67]
Tay, an AI chatbot that learns from previous interaction, caused major controversy due to it being targeted by internet trolls on Twitter. The bot was exploited, and after 16 hours began to send extremely offensive Tweets to users. This suggests that although the bot learned effectively from experience, adequate protection was not put in place to prevent misuse.[74]

If a text-sending algorithm can pass itself off as a human instead of a chatbot, its message would be more credible. Therefore, human-seeming chatbots with well-crafted online identities could start scattering fake news that seems plausible, for instance making false claims during an election. With enough chatbots, it might be even possible to achieve artificial social proof.[75][76]

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'Conspiracy of dunces': CNN panel torches 'idiot' Republican narratives about Twitter