Jim Hargrove

Why did you bump a discussion from another thread to this one? Anyway, here's what Palmer McBride had to say about his encounter with Mr. Lifton: \

You’re not paying much attention. I hear from many well-known JFK researchers who accept Harvey and Lee as gospel. You will recognize their names, but they don’t want to get involved in the anti-H&L vitriol so many engage in, and so I won’t mention their names here. You don’t understand how far and wide the Harvey and Lee Menace® has already spread. John’s work tracing the two Oswalds in 1963 is accepted and expanded upon in James Douglass’s highly regarded JFK and the Unspeakable. Mr. Armstrong has been interviewed more times than almost anyone else on Len Osanic’s popular Black Op Radio webcasts. There are a number of feature-length presentations of John Armstrong speeches and interviews on YouTube, each with more than a hundred thousand views. Compare that with the numbers of other JFK assassination casts. My own little website featuring John’s work gets nearly a hundred thousand unique visitors each year. All of this despite a small army of detractors working diligently to disparage his work. Again, compare these numbers with other JFK assassination sites. You may think you are winning, but you are not. And since you brought it up, let's see what Palmer McBride had to say to Mr. Lifton.

Tracy, I always try to offer some EVIDENCE backing up my statements. Will you offer some EVIDENCE... any EVIDENCE... backing up your statements? For example, I back up my statements about James Wilcott and the HSCA with these HSCA docs.... 

HSCA staff notes indicate that Wilcott had to agree "to not reveal specifics of specific questions," such as CIA cryptonyms relating to the "Oswald Project." But don't believe me. Believe the HSCA staff notes below....

They weren’t stupid. The Oswald Project (CIA accountant James Wilcott said it had the cryptonym RX-ZIM) was just intended to fool any Russian operative who might look into “Lee Harvey Oswald’s” background in the U.S. after he “defected” to the USSR. Intense scrutiny didn’t come until after RX/ZIM got entangled in the Kennedy assassination, a process that didn’t even begin until the summer of 1963.

Name-calling doesn't change the EVIDENCE. There was a 5'9" "Lee Harvey Oswald" in the Marines and a 5'11" "Lee Harvey Oswald" in the Marines. These two heights for the adult "Lee Harvey Oswald" are shown in a dozen or two documents now in the National Archives. From DJ's original post: By all means chalk it up to clerical errors, call us all the names you can conjure, but that doesn't explain why there is no 5'10" "Lee Harvey Oswald" in the records. Instead, the H&L critics will just talk endlessly about DJ's mistake indicating the shorter Oswald was 5'7" instead of the correct 5'9". Pay no attention to the 5'11" Oswald, men. Maybe the evidence will just disappear!

The existing documents in the National Archives on "Lee Harvey Oswald" are almost evenly divided on his height: Roughly half indicate he was 5' 9" tall and the other half show he was 5' 11" tall. Hardly any show his height as 5' 10", suggesting these are not mere measuring errors. For example.... Oswald was 5' 9" on a slab in the Dallas morgue: But Oswald was 5'11" (a total of 71") in his surviving Marine Corps records:

Why do you continue to argue against only a small part of the Stripling evidence? Robert Oswald told a Fort Worth newspaper, on two separate occasions years apart, that his brother attended Stripling. Robert also testified to the Warren Commission that his “brother” attended Stripling. Harvey Oswald’s classmate Fran Schubert said she attended Stripling with Oswald and watched him walk home from Stripling to his house at 2220 Thomas Place. In the 1990s, Stripling School principal Ricardo Galindo told John that it was “common knowledge” that “Lee Harvey Oswald” attended Stripling. Not one “researcher” here has made an effort to contact Galindo to see if he is still alive and if he would repeat his claim. John also spoke to local student Bobby Pitts, who remembered that Oswald attended Stripling with his younger brother and that he (Bobby) remembered seeing (Harvey) Oswald standing on the porch at 2220 Thomas Place, directly across the street from Stripling. John also spoke with former Stripling student Doug Gann, who attended ninth grade at Stripling with Harvey and remembered that he live “across the street from the basketball courts and one or two houses to the left,” which exactly describes 2220 Thomas Place, where “Marguerite Oswald” lived at the time of the assassination of JFK. H&L critics have not one bit of interest in any of these witnesses. They just want to describe them as liars. H&L critics have no explanation why a Forth Worth Star-Telegram article from November 2017 would indicate that Oswald’s “teachers and classmates remember him at Stripling, though there is no official record.” They complain there are not enough details, as if that changes the record. Read the article here. And here's the Fank Kudlaty interview. People with minds more open than Mr. Parnell can judge for themselves whether this evidence seems credible.

Oh, you mean Robert was "misremembering" his own attendance at Stripling???? Why do you only look at part of the Stripling evidence? Stripling assistant principal Frank Kudlaty in 1963 met FBI agents at the school and gave them “Lee Harvey Oswald’s” Stripling records. Those records disappeared. Kudlaty's YouTube interview is here. On two separate occasions, Robert Oswald told a Fort Worth newspaper, on two separate occasions years apart, that his brother attended Stripling. See one of the articles here. Robert also testified to the Warren Commission that his “brother” attended Stripling. Harvey Oswald’s classmate Fran Schubert said she attended Stripling with Oswald and watched him walk home from Stripling to his house at 2220 Thomas Place. See her YouTube interview with John here. In the 1990s, Stripling School principal Ricardo Galindo told John that it was “common knowledge” that “Lee Harvey Oswald” attended Stripling. Not one “researcher” here has made an effort to contact Galindo to see if he is still alive and if he would repeat his claim. John also spoke to local student Bobby Pitts, who remembered that Oswald attended Stripling with his younger brother and that he (Bobby) remembered seeing (Harvey) Oswald standing on the porch at 2220 Thomas Place, directly across the street from Stripling. John also spoke with former Stripling student Doug Gann, who attended ninth grade at Stripling with Harvey and remembered that he live “across the street from the basketball courts and one or two houses to the left,” which exactly describes 2220 Thomas Place, where “Marguerite Oswald” lived at the time of the assassination of JFK. H&L critics have not one bit of interest in any of these witnesses. They just want to describe them as liars. H&L critics have no explanation why a Forth Worth Star-Telegram article from November 2017 would indicate that Oswald’s “teachers and classmates remember him at Stripling, though there is no official record.” They complain there are not enough details, as if that changes the record. Read the article here. It was clearly common knowledge among local Fort Worth students and teachers that "Lee Harvey Oswald" attended Stripling School. Your endless excuses about details and lying witnesses change none of that. H&L critics have no interest whatsoever in looking into this question. All they do is try to deny it in any way they can conjure.

Point 1: Actually, that's the start of the second semester at Beauregard, when "LHO" became a full-time student. If he really wasn't attending the school earlier, how do you explain his 89 days of attendance with just one absence the previous semester as a part-time student, in which he received a grade of 70 in General Science and Physical Education? According to NYC records, he didn't even take science that semester. Point 2: Read it more carefully. It actually says "PS 44 Byron Junior High" in New York, New York. There are at least four different PS 44s in NYC, (each in different boroughs), but there is no PS 44 "Byron" in the city. With an incorrect name of any of the four or five different PS 44s, how could Beauregard personnel possibly get "LHO's" PS 44 records? Why would they give him a grade of 70 in a science class in New Orleans at the same time he was taking completely different classes in NYC? Can you think of a reason Harvey Oswald's handler(s) might have wanted him to give a false NYC school name to Beauregard? Of course you can't! 

The posts in this thread for the past two days speak volumes about the commitment of certain JFK researchers for the truth. Of the people active in this thread, it appears that only D.J., Sandy, and me have any interest whatsoever in exploring endless anomalies in the school records of “Lee Harvey Oswald.” All the others are only interested in making smug excuses and endless denials. From the New York City School system to New Orleans and on to Fort Worth, we have example after example of the two similarly aged and traveled “Lee Harvey Oswalds” attending the same, or nearby, or distant schools. Let’s just take one example and look at the fall semester of 1954. FALL 1954 During this school semester, LEE Oswald was attending Beauregard JHS in New Orleans and HARVEY Oswald was at W.C. Stripling junior high in Fort Worth, Texas. Since the Warren Commission published the Beauregard records indicating “Lee Harvey Oswald” attended classes at Beauregard for the full fall semester of 1954, evidence that he also attended Stripling school at the same time would be a serious problem. (Just as the Beauregard and NYC records, both published by the WC, are a serious problem now.) So, what evidence is there that “Lee Harvey Oswald” attended Stripling School in Fort Worth? H&L critics refuse to believe ANY of the following: Stripling assistant principal Frank Kudlaty in 1963 met FBI agent at the school and gave them “Lee Harvey Oswald’s” Stripling records. His YouTube interview is here. On two separate occasions, Robert Oswald told a Fort Worth newspaper that his brother attended Stripling. See one of the articles here. Robert also testified to the Warren Commission that his “brother” attended Stripling. Harvey Oswald’s classmate Fran Schubert said she attended Stripling with Oswald and watched him walk home from Stripling to his house at 2220 Thomas Place. See her YouTube interview with John here. In the 1990s, Stripling School principal Ricardo Galindo told John that it was “common knowledge” that “Lee Harvey Oswald” attended Stripling. Not one “researcher” here has made an effort to contact Galindo to see if he is still alive and if he would repeat his claim. John also spoke to local student Bobby Pitts, who remembered that Oswald attended Stripling with his younger brother and that he (Bobby) remembered seeing (Harvey) Oswald standing on the porch at 2220 Thomas Place, directly across the street from Stripling. John also spoke with former Stripling student Doug Gann, who attended ninth grade at Stripling with Harvey and remembered that he live “across the street from the basketball courts and one or two houses to the left,” which exactly describes 2220 Thomas Place, where “Marguerite Oswald” lived at the time of the assassination of JFK. H&L critics have not one bit of interest in any of these witnesses. They just want to describe them as liars. H&L critics have no explanation why a Forth Worth Star-Telegram article from November 2017 would indicate that Oswald’s “teachers and classmates remember him at Stripling, though there is no official record.” Read the article here. Isn’t it remarkable the the H&L critics work so hard to say that all this Stripling School business is nonsense, but they don’t have even a tiny bit of curiosity about discovering whether it might be true. Not a bit!

Oh, sure, and the Harvey and Lee Menace® has spread to last month’s Fort Worth Star Telegram, which reports that Oswald’s “teachers and classmates remember him at Stripling, though there is no official record.” Your denials are approaching the bizarre. Read the article HERE.

Beauregard personnel clearly didn’t know which of the four or five "PS 44" schools in New York City "Oswald" attended before Beauregard, and so it is unlikely that they obtained any records at all from that school. With all those PS 44s in the five boroughs of NYC, and none of them was named “PS 44 Byron Jr. High,” as indicated on the Beauregard cumulative records. H&L critics will just say mistakes happen, but I think there is a better explanation, which is that Beauregard was deliberately given the wrong NYC school information. Why? You have to look at the full picture. From New York City to New Orleans to Fort Worth, it is easy to trace the schools attended by both Oswalds. John Pic told the Warren Commission that in the fall of ‘52 his brother enrolled in a school just a few blocks from his Manhattan apartment. In his book, Robert Oswald said "Lee entered the 8th grade at P.S. 44 on Columbus Avenue at 76th St." This school is William J. O'Shea Junior High School, PS 44 in Manhattan, and is 2 1/2 miles from Pic's apartment. But the Warren Commission/FBI puts Oswald, at this time, at Trinity Lutheran School and PS 117 in the Bronx, and then at P.S. 44 in the Bronx, all eight miles or so from Pic’s apartment. Assuming John Pic and Robert Oswald were right, it was LEE Oswald who attended school in Manhattan at least part of the time that HARVEY went to school in the Bronx. And it was HARVEY who was perpetually truant and soon in trouble with NYC authorities. All of this may have been more easily untangled but right after the assassination, after Judge Florence Kelley gave the FBI original NYC school records of Oswald's attendance, the originals all disappeared and the FBI soon gave the Warren Commission photographs of the documents. HARVEY Oswald and his caretaker had to flee New York City because a scheduled court appearance over his truancy would have been too dangerous. His caretaker mother could barely remember any of the details of her “son’s” alleged biography, and who knows what HARVEY might have said to a judge. LEE Oswald and Marguerite soon had to flee New York as well, and for a very simple reason. HARVEY Oswald had been perpetually truant, not LEE. When hauled into court for truancy, can you imagine how angry LEE would have been? The solution for both problems was found in New Orleans. We've been discussing the Beauregad records in this thread, which show that one Oswald was in New Orleans while the other was in New York City. In the very next school year, Lee Oswald is at Beauregard and Harvey Oswald attends Stripling School in Fort Worth. H&L critics would like you to believe that Stripling School assistant principal Frank Kudlaty was lying when he recalled giving LHO’s records to the FBI, as was Oswald’s Stripling classmate Francetta Schubert when she recalled Oswald’s presence at the school, and that Robert Oswald was mistaken when he testified to the Warren Commission that his “brother” attended Stripling, and when he was quoted in local newspapers twice before the assassination saying his brother attended the school, and that either John Armstrong or Ricardo Galindo, Stripling School principal in the late 1990s or both are lying because John reported that Mr. Galindo said it was “common knowledge” that Oswald attended Stripling. Why? Because all the school records published by the Warren Commission give no time for "Lee Harvey Oswald" to have attended the Fort Worth school. According Warren Commission documents, Oswald was attending school elsewhere. Frank Kudlaty was told by his principal to meet the FBI at Stripling School immediately after the assassination. Mr. Kudlaty turned over the school records to the FBI, but they all disappeared. Here’s Part 1 of a three part interview with Mr. Kudlaty: In 1959, at the time LHO began his assignment as a secret agent in Russia, Robert Oswald told reporters that his brother had attended Stripling School. Fort Worth Star-Telegram Article from November 2017 Robert also told the Warren Commission that his brother attended Stripling: Mr. Jenner: And, at that time, I take it your brother Lee was attending Arling­- ton Heights High School? That would be 1952? Mr. Oswald: Just a minute please. In 1952 Lee was 13 years old. He would be attending W.C. Stripling Junior High School then. Mr. Jenner: I see. For the school year 1951-52? Mr. Oswald: Yes, sir. Junior high school there was from the seventh to the ninth grades. And as soon as he finished the sixth year at Ridglea Elementary School, he started attending W.C. Stripling Junior High school. Mr. Jenner: As soon as he finished the sixth year at Ridglea Elementary School, he entered W.C. Stripling High School as a seventh grader? Mr. Oswald: Yes, sir--junior high school. Oswald’s Stripling classmate Fran Schubert recalled watching Oswald walk home from Stripling School to 2220 Thomas Place, where “Marguerite Oswald” lived at various times, including at the time of the assassination. There are other witnesses to Oswald’s attendance at Stripling as well. Stripling School principal Ricardo Galindo, told John in the late 1990s that it was “common knowledge” that Oswald attended the school, which is also indicated by a Fort Worth newspaper article from just last month. John spoke to several other students and teachers at Stripling who recalled Oswald there but, of course, according to H&L critics, John is lying about that too. In the online edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram from just last month, it was reported that even people without much knowledge of “Lee Harvey Oswald” knew he attended Stripling School. It reports that Oswald’s “teachers and classmates remember him at Stripling, though there is no official record.” Read it here: Fort Worth Star-Telegram Article from November 2017

And, of course, Mr. Parnell would like you NOT to debate this subject here because what is on the web page he references is complete nonsense. Without any evidence whatsoever, Mr. Parker claims that the 89 days in the top “Re-Ad” column of the Beauregard cumulative record includes days Oswald attended PS 44 in New York City. There are no forwarded records from PS 44 in Oswald’s Beauregard file. The only mention of PS 44 in the Beauregard file is in a record that indicates he previously attended “PS #44-Byron Junior High" in New York City. But there is no “Byron Junior High” in New York City and, according to the New York Historical Society, there never was. Since there are PS 44s in at least four of the five New York City boroughs, how would Beauregard have requested information from an incorrectly identified school? And if they had received information, why didn't they know the name of the school? And if they did get information about Oswald's course work in NYC from a school they couldn't identify, why was Oswald in New Orleans given a passing grade in an entirely different course from the NYC courses he supposedly took that very semester? John wrote: “Perhaps a false name for the school was provided so that Beauregard school personnel would be unable to obtain Oswald's New York school transcripts by mail.” H&L critics will tell you they have a better explanation, but they don't. It is abundantly clear that "Oswald's" passing grades in the first semester at Beauregard had nothing to do with New York City. It is also abundantly clear that the very next semester, one Oswald attends Beauregard School in New Orleans and the other Oswald attends Stripling School in Fort Worth, Texas. By the way, both the NYC and Beauregard school records are published in the Warren volumes.

DJ, I don’t think we need to ask our hosts to protect us here. If Mr. Walton wants to try and “debate” using elementary school taunts and name-calling, that reflects on him, not us. Megathanks to the Education Forum hosts and mods for putting up with all of us and making this free debate possible.

To Michael Walton…. Show me a mainstream newspaper or media outlet in the U.S. that has carried an article, with real evidence like John Armstrong has presented, showing there was ever a successful coup de’tat in America and I’ll try to get John to submit his write-up to it in a heartbeat. No mainstream journalist would keep a job promoting a story that truthfully stated what the assassination of JFK meant, one Oswald or two. I have no interest in publishing in Russia Today, which might well present it.

To Paul Trejo, You take my answer completely out of context. I was responding to a post by W. Tracy Parnell, who says he believes the Warren Report, which is why I answered him as I did. I’ll answer you from a different perspective. John A. has shown that two young men, part of an intelligence operation, shared the identity of “Lee Harvey Oswald.” If you believe there was a third “Lee Harvey Oswald” of roughly the same age in the U.S. in the 1950s and early 1960s in roughly the same region as our boys, prove it! It should be easy to do. I cannot prove a negative. It is clear from the reports of HSCA staffers that James Wilcott knew far more than he was allowed to say during his executive testimony. It is also clear that he passed something called a “Cuban stress analysis,” though we aren’t told what that is, and that he was eager to take a lie detector test. There is an enormous amount of evidence that what Wilcott called the “Oswald Project” was a creation of the CIA. We have been through this a number of times before, but you have never given a credible rebuttal. Here’s my list again…. 21 Facts Indicating the Oswald Project Was Run by the CIA 1. CIA accountant James Wilcott said he made payments to an encrypted account for “Oswald or the Oswald Project.” 2. Antonio Veciana said he saw LHO meeting with CIA’s Maurice Bishop/David Atlee Phillips in Dallas in August 1963. 3. A 1978 CIA memo indicates that a CIA operations officer “had run an agent into the USSR, that man having met a Russian girl and eventually marrying her,” a case very similar to Oswald’s and clearly indicating that the Agency ran a “false defector” program in the 1950s. 4. Robert Webster and LHO "defected" a few months apart in 1959, both tried to "defect" on a Saturday, both possessed "sensitive" information of possible value to the Russians, both were befriended by Marina Prusakova, and both returned to the United States in the spring of 1962. 5. Richard Sprague, Richard Schweiker, and CIA agents Donald Norton and Joseph Newbrough all said LHO was associated with the CIA. 6. CIA employee Donald Deneslya said he read reports of a CIA "contact" who had worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child. 7. Kenneth Porter, employee of CIA-connected Collins Radio, left his family to marry (and probably monitor) Marina Oswald after LHO’s death. 8. George Joannides, case officer and paymaster for DRE (which LHO had attempted to infiltrate) was put in charge of lying to the HSCA and never told them of his relationship to DRE. 9. For his achievements, Joannides was given a medal by the CIA. 10. FBI took Oswald off the watch list at the same time a CIA cable gave him a clean bill of political health, weeks after Oswald’s New Orleans arrest and less than two months before the assassination. 11. Oswald’s lengthy “Lives of Russian Workers” essay reads like a pretty good intelligence report. 12. Oswald’s possessions were searched for microdots. 13. Oswald owned an expensive Minox spy camera, which the FBI tried to make disappear. 14. Even the official cover story of the radar operator near American U-2 planes defecting to Russia, saying he would give away all his secrets, and returning home without penalty smells like a spy story. 15. CIA Richard Case Nagell clearly knew about the plot to assassinate JFK and LHO’s relation to it, and he said that the CIA and the FBI ignored his warnings. 16. LHO always seemed poor as a church mouse, until it was time to go “on assignment.” For his Russian adventure, we’re to believe he saved all the money he needed for first class European hotels and private tour guides in Moscow from the non-convertible USMC script he saved. In the summer of 1963, he once again seemed to have enough money to travel abroad to Communist nations. 17. To this day, the CIA claims it never interacted with Oswald, that it didn’t even bother debriefing him after the “defection.” What utter bs…. 18. After he “defected” to the Soviet Union in 1959, bragging to U.S. embassy personnel in Moscow that he would tell the Russians everything he knew about U.S. military secrets, he returns to the U.S. without punishment and is then in 1963 given the OK to travel to Cuba and the Soviet Union again! 19. Allen Dulles, the CIA director fired by JFK, and the Warren Commission clearly wanted the truth hidden from the public to protect sources and methods of intelligence agencies such as the CIA. Earl Warren said, “Full disclosure was not possible for reasons of national security.” 20. CIA's Ann Egerter, who worked for J.J. Angleton's Counterintelligence Special Interest Group (CI/SIG), opened a "201" file on Oswald on December 9, 1960. Egerter testified to the HSCA: "We were charged with the investigation of Agency personnel....” When asked if the purpose was to "investigate Agency employees," she answered, "That is correct." When asked, "Would there be any other reason for opening up a file?" she answered, "No, I can't think of one." 21. President Kennedy and the CIA clearly were at war with each other in the weeks immediately before his assassination, as evidenced by Arthur Krock's infamous defense of the Agency in the Oct. 3, 1963 New York Times. “Oswald” was the CIA’s pawn.

TO READERS OF THIS TOPIC: A few posters here, particularly Michael Walton, consistently misrepresent John Amrstrong's research and then try to mock their own misrepresentations. Why let trollers tell you what they pretend is in John's research? Why not take a look at it and judge for yourself? To see how LEE Oswald set up HARVEY Oswald as the patsy in JFK's assassination, click on the link below. Setting up HARVEY Oswald as the "Patsy" To start to understand the full picture of what CIA accountant James Wilcott called "Oswald Project" and how it was run by American Intel, visit the Harvey and Lee home page here.... HarveyandLee.net

Thanks, Tom. Despite our differences regarding the details of the two Oswalds, your assertion that the guy framing Classic Oswald® deliberately left behind clues to the frame-up is interesting. Can you cite any evidence for that beyond the encoded clues you've described here?

Even if Michael Walton pretends to laugh out loud more often, he still won't be funny!

We look for evidence that cuts through the cover-up and we try to figure out what really happened. If you’re honest with yourself, you KNOW there was a government cover-up in this case. I have shown you a video proving that the authorities altered the statements of at least three Dealey Plaza witnesses indicating that shots may have been fired outside the School Depository. I have shown you that the Warren Commission altered the testimony of an FBI evidence technician who inadvertently implied there was a secret transfer of “Oswald’s possessions” from Dallas to FBI headquarters in D.C., where they were altered, and then secretly returned to Dallas before being publicly sent back to Washington. Can you seriously doubt more sworn testimony was altered over the years? Other witnesses have said their words were changed. It is clear from the notes of HSCA staffers that James Wilcott wasn’t permitted to say all he knew even in secret testimony at the House committee. It is also clear that the U.S. government has gone to great lengths to hide the details of what Wilcott called American Intel’s “Oswald Project” from the American people and the world. Since there clearly was a cover-up, why should we spend our time parsing documents that merely shore up that false story? We look for the documents the U.S. government neglected to destroy or alter. And there are a lot of them that escaped the dragnet. Look at it this way. You’re a police detective looking into the robbery of a liquor store on Saturday night. The store clerk says a couple of the robbers were wearing green and gold patches, colors of a local gang, So you haul all the known gang members into headquarters for questioning. Seventeen of them swear they were at Blessed Virgin Mary Church all Saturday night deep in prayer. The eighteenth breaks down and says they robbed the store. Who are you going to pay a whole lot more attention to? It’s that simple.

Multiple witnesses at the Texas Department of Public Safety License Records Department said that a Texas driver’s license in the name “Lee Harvey Oswald” was returned to their office a few days after the assassination. It was worn and stained bown, as if carried in a brown wallet. Mr. Trejo seems to believe there were more than two "Lee Harvey Oswald's" in and around Dallas in 1963, so let's see if anyone else saw the driver's license and identified it as from one of our boys. Interestingly enough, Fred Moore at the Jiffy Store in Dallas told the FBI he saw “Lee Harvey Oswald” pull a driver’s license out of his wallet when he asked for identification to sell Oswald two beers the morning of November 22, 1963. He also said that this Oswald was wearing a light colored shirt. John Armstrong is able to track the probable movements of the two Oswalds on assassination day in part by noting witness descriptions of their shirt colors; Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald in a dark shirt, American-born Lee Oswald in a light or white colored shirt. See it here: Harvey and Lee on November 22, 1963 Here’s the FBI report on Fred Moore.

Bernie REALLY doesn’t want to discuss the evidence that the Oswald Project was a creation of the CIA, which is kind of strange since he is willing to imply that I may be a potential mass murderer. He doesn’t seem to be shy. So what’s the problem?

Maybe Bernie Laverick can come to the rescue of the Warren Commission apologists. Let's hear from BERNIE!

Since you continue to invoke Mr. Parker as if he matters here, let me offer up the following analysis of Mr. Parker's work from my e-pal of many years. My e-friend thinks Mr. Parker is nothing but a fraud. My e-friend's YouTube commentary is presented here with the express permission of the original poster. Here is what he said about Greg Parker: You have to have a total grasp of where Parker is coming from in order to understand the exact flaws in what he is trying to do... I'm glad however that you once again sussed out the critical flaws in his approach without any understanding of the "Harvey & Lee" background of this issue... Greg is the first person to demand precise methodology and evidence when he is dodging someone else's good claims, but typical of his ROKC group does not demand the same from himself..."Grandiose" might be one way of describing Parker's approach... I have some other words to add.... Because you haven't participated in the general debate you are not aware that Parker is trying to hide symptoms of Lee Oswald being doubled-over by the CIA double "Harvey" behind pseudo analyses of psychiatric conditions.... Parker is trying to portray the anti-social secretive behavior of a CIA spy as being due to Asperger's syndrome, but as you cleverly figured out it doesn't wash according to common sense and Oswald's real profile that Parker avoids by drawing you to his bogus lectures... What Parker isn't being honest about is the fact Lee probably showed those psychiatric quirks because he was part of a CIA program that went back to his childhood and may have even murdered his father.... Because Lee was raised in this intel bubble in a dysfunctional family he exhibited mental traits equal to such an average southern boy in such a situation.... Maybe even Marguerite too.... Parker ignores the true cause and interpretation of this diagnosis in order to contrive his specious Asperger's theory...A wise observer would realize that Parker is making up this Aspergers explanation exactly because he is aware that Oswald's learning of Russian has no good explanation if it was just Oswald alone... Also, Parker is not honestly mentioning that Oswald had no time to learn Russian according to his Marine schedule... Moreover the Asperger's Parker refers to is an extreme condition that displays overt symptoms that military doctors and overseers would not miss... The savant aspects of Aspergers exist in an inverse relationship where the worse the condition the more the individual is able to perform the intuitive skill he focuses on... So just like you said, this would leave the individual unable to perform in the normal range and the Marines do not miss such defects...But even further, in his response Parker seems to confuse what Moorek is saying.... This is typical of Parker because he avoids information he can't give an honest answer to.... Moorek was not talking about Oswald's learning of Russian she was talking about the fact that the Oswald heard in the police station and on radio shows did not have the noticeable southern accent of Lee Harvey Oswald and that it was not linguistically normal to 'unlearn' such a core language feature under Oswald's circumstances... This is what John Armstrong was also saying in his book 'Harvey & Lee' and the explanation for it is that the Oswald you are seeing in those scenes is a CIA double from Manhattan whose family had a background in Russian language through Hungary... Mr Parker is not explaining why his language savant Oswald did not pick-up Spanish in his interactions with the Cuban exiles?...Oswald also showed skill in concealing his covert activities for an alleged Asperger's victim.... Why do you continue to invoke Mr. Parker to defend the Warren Commission? Why is Mr. Parker always endorsed by Warren Commission apologists like you? Do you think any of us believe him? Explain to us why Mr. Parker was banned from this forum, and the Deep Politics forum, and why we should believe you that we should believe him. Why should we consider him to be anything but yet another shill for the Warren Commission, just like you? Just askin'.