Jim Hargrove

Indeed it is. Some of the numerous H&L critics bouncing around the net seem to use any techniques they can conjure to keep readers away from this book, but the strategy has failed. I can see the ever increasing file request logs on the HarveyandLee.net web server, and John’s $65 hardback edition of Harvey and Lee is just about sold out with no advertising whatsoever. I’m aware of at least three pirated e-versions of the book, all of which John patiently tolerates. Harvey and Lee is a beautifully written book, with remarkably few errors considering the duress under which it was re-composed. All the more remarkable because John spent most of his life running oil and custom home building enterprises. Anyone who takes the time to read and understand the entire book, and it takes years, will understand the assassination of JFK. A great introduction to the book is HarveyandLee.net.

The amount of disinformation posted here about Harvey and Lee is simply breathtaking. A case in point is Mr. Parnell’s assertion above that “A proper book would have had an editor and been around 350 pages. But like Ayn Rand, he would not allow a single edit to be made.” Mr. Parnell probably knows how Harvey and Lee was prepared, because I have told him several times, but he continues to ignore that information and post disinformation here. John wrote Harvey and Lee using proprietary page markup software that Jack White recommended. When he found out how much thousands of copies of a hardbound book of more than a thousand pages would cost in the United States, he traveled to China to find a less expensive solution. He eventually found a publisher, but that publisher could not use the software’s data file he had prepared. Neither the publisher, John, nor anyone else John knew in China could find a way to automate a file conversion to something usable by the Chinese printer. And so John sat by himself in a hotel room retyping by hand the entire manuscript, and he made a few typos. Mr. Parnell thinks there are more because he now only has the pirated CD version of the book, which, although carefully done, introduced many optical character recognition scan errors. It is true that Harvey and Lee is a VERY long book. (If the graphics on the accompanying CD had been printed in the bound book, it would have approached two thousand pages in length, instead of the mere one thousand plus pages it is without illustrations.) But John wanted the book to be as much of a reference work as a page-turner for armchair readers, and so he packed it full of information. Mr. Parnell wants readers here to believe that John has “bizarre theories,” but those theories are shared by many researchers, and have been for fifty years. Two Oswalds is one of he most enduring theories throughout the history of WC critics. I hear from dozens of them periodically who believe John's central conclusions. Here’s a bizarre idea for you. Why don’t you stop listening to people like Messrs. Parnell and Walton misrepresent John’s work and take a look at it for yourself. John and I run an easy-to-read website that provides an excellent and thorough introduction to Harvey and Lee. See for yourself at: HarveyandLee.net

Just sayin'.... This is the Real World, Mr. Trejo.... I am not being "over-dramatic." Nor am I "making stuff up!" This is the world where you make stuff up and where James Wilcott told the truth.!

If Mr. Wilcott had disobeyed the CIA's orders and testified about RX-ZIM, he'd have been DEAD THE NEXT DAY! Probably fearing for his life and the life of his family, he obeyed the CIA's rules.

Once more, Mr. Trejo. The RX-ZIM CIA cryptonym is approximate because of the hyphen, which could easily become a "/" or a space, or something else. Do you see how RX-ZIM is underlined under the hyphen in the HSCA document? That's why RX-ZIM is APPROXIMATED in the HSCA doc! Once more again, according to CIA accountant James Wilcott, the Oswald Project was run by the USSR SR Branch of the CIA!

Read this again, Mr. Trejo!!!

He CLEARLY DID remember, Mr. Trejo.! Mr. Wilcott remembered that the CIA cryptonym for the OSWALD PROJECT was RX-ZIM. As you can clearly see, that is FIVE LETTERS, and Mr. Wilcott DID REMEMBER!!! Here's the Oswald Project CIA cryptonym, as released by the HSCA. That's RX-ZIM!

I understand, Mr. Trejo. You’re shocked, SHOCKED that I should ignore all decency by daring to read these HSCA documents from the JFK Collection of the National Archives in College Park, Maryland! Just who do I think I am, eh? The nerve of me! Just because a CIA accountant said the Oswald Project was believed run by the “USSR SR Branch” of the CIA , that CLEARLY means I “still have NOTHING.” So you say.... Why don't you explain to us how impossible it would be for the "SR Branch" of the CIA to run the Oswald Project? I'd love to hear your excuses du jour.

Oh, puhleeze. Do you simply refuse to read the documents put right in front of your eyes? Wilcott had to agree "to not reveal specifics of specific questions." Can you imagine trying to defend yourself against U.S. government prosecutors charging you with violation of National Security laws and agreements? Can you even imagine the reach of a State-sponsored cover-up?

You don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that out. Look how the statement is typed in the report: “Cryptonym for Oswald Project approx. RX-ZIM.” (The hyphen in RX-ZIM is underlined.) Why is the hyphen underlined? Surely because minor variations of the cryptonym must have existed without the hyphen, as in, for example, RX/ZIM or RXZIM or RX ZIM instead of RX-ZIM. You can see how similar variations occur across the Web in all sorts of acronyms for illegal CIA operations, such as ZR/RIFLE or MK/ULTRA. But, of course, CIA apologists don’t want to understand any of these simple matters. Ever the defense lawyer for the CIA, Mr. Trejo wants us to believe that a 1978 report of statements by a CIA accountant are unreliable because they are dated and contain hearsay evidence. A real lawyer, though, might explain that "statements against interest" often comprise exceptions to the hearsay rule, and that it is not unreasonable for a professional accountant like Mr. Wilcott to remember for some time that he had helped to pay the alleged assassin of President John F. Kennedy. Mr. Trejo also wants us to believe that this was all a big joke around the Tokyo station of the CIA. LOL and all that. "Nuf said!

That’s right, nothing to see here, folks. Just shop talk by HSCA staffers that the CIA’s “Oswald Project” went by the cryptonym RX-ZIM. That James Wilcott offered to take a lie detector test and had already passed a “Cuban stress analysis” about his accusations. Just shop talk by HSCA staffers that the son of an ex-FBI agent had overheard his father tell another agent that Oswald was CIA. And that the father then had a heart attack and died. And that the son verified Wilcott’s statements. And that the son was afraid to testify because, as the HSCA staffer described it, “witnesses are still dying.” Just shop talk by HSCA staffers that Michael Goldsmith and the HSCA “did not want any public revelation on his [Wilcott’s] committee appearance.” And that Wilcott had to agree not to “reveal specifics of specific questions” during his testimony. Nothing to see here folks, just keep moving. Obviously, the HSCA brass was interested only in the truth and getting to the bottom of this “Project Oswald” business. Maybe if you close your eyes and cover your ears, it will all go away.

More howls of protest from Mr. Parnell. Read these long-suppressed HSCA documents and decide for yourself if the House Committee was dealing honestly with the question of Oswald and the CIA.

Here is another page from that fascinating HSCA report about James Wilcott. In it, the writer describes how Mr. Wilcott was forbidden to “reveal specifics of specific questions,” and that HSCA attorney Michael Goldsmith wanted secrecy for the entire affair. Small wonder these notes on Wilcott’s revelations differ from his testimony which was published, in part, decades after he gave it. Some of the old hands here will recall how HSCA photo consultant Jack White told us that he was threatened with contempt of Congress if he showed publicly some of his facial studies of “Lee Harvey Oswald.” Sound familiar? For those who, for some reason, can’t see the image of this document, here is the part I’ve highlighted in yellow (emphasis added): Wilcott met source in Bay Area in Jan-Feb 1978. Source is son of a good friend, who is sex-FBI agent. Son wlaked (sic) in on father and another agent in study. Son overheard conversation that FBI knew Oswald was CIA agent. Verify. Father discovered son had overheard conversation and swore son to secrecy. Father later died of heart attack. Son afraid. Verifies Wilcott statement. Son refuses to testify since committee cannot guarantee anyone’s security and since witnesses are still dying. Concerning Michael Goldsmith conversation: same conversation included Goldsmith desire to insure secrecy of Wilcott testimony. Goldsmith said Committee did not want any public revelation on his committee appearance. Schapp, Wilcott refused. Agreed to not reveal specifics of specific questions. This material was buried in HSCA files without an explanatory cover sheet. It may have been preserved in error.

And even more likely, this could all mean that Wilcott was telling the truth, as indicated by the "Cuban stress analysis" that he passed and by his apparent eagerness to take a lie detector test.

Below are two pages from the HSCA files. One is that page from the report indicating Wilcott passed some sort of “stress analysis” test (I’m assuming that’s a voice stress reading) and also indicating that RX-ZIM was the CIA cryptonym for the “Oswald Project.” Above that is a page indicating that Wilcott told an HSCA investigator “he would gladly submit to a polygraph examination.” Pretty strange behavior for someone who "made it up." 

Mathias, The two hits you found on MFF for “RX-ZIM” include, I think, not Wilcott’s testimony but instead the background notes about him buried deep in HSCA files at the National Archives. Unless it was redacted, RX-ZIM does not appear in Wilcott’s transcript and, in fact, he allegedly said he didn’t remember it, though these notes clearly indicate otherwise. I’m putting up two HSCA pages below. One is that page from the report indicating Wilcott passed some sort of “stress analysis” test (I’m assuming that’s a voice stress reading) and also indicating that RX-ZIM was the CIA cryptonym for the “Oswald Project.” Above that is a page indicating that Wilcott told an HSCA investigator “he would gladly submit to a polygraph examination.” There should be an enormous interest among JFK researchers about “RX-ZIM.” That so few have even heard of the term speaks volumes. First, it indicates once again that this case has involved an enormous cover-up by elements of our federal government. Had I not told you about RX-ZIM, you would have never thought to search for it on MFF. The HSCA clearly had no interest in letting Americans know about Wilcott’s specific accusation about this CIA cryptonym. Second, this situation sheds light on the current state of JFK assassination research. I’m aware of only one person on earth who read through every FBI report on the assassination and spent months working at the National Archives in College Park going through the endless documents assembled for this case. John Armstrong found the documents shown above and had photocopies made of them at the Archives. Then, in a book of more than a thousand pages, he devoted a couple of sentences to RX-ZIM. Despite endless trolls made by a small army of critics, H&L is the most dangerous book for the status quo in this case I’ve ever seen.

Still waiting for replies.

STOP IT, MR. TREJO! CIA accountant James Wilcott talked at length to the HSCA about "Lee Harvey Oswald." Wilcott called it "the Oswald Project." According to Mr. Wilcott, the Oswald Project had a CIA cryptonym. It was RK-ZIM. Do you understand? The Harvey and Lee project crypto name at the CIA was RK-ZIM.

Contrary to what the HSCA transcript shows, James Wilcott DID remember the cryptonym for what he called the “Oswald Project.” It was RX-ZIM. He clearly said this to HSCA personnel.

Ah... once again it is obvious that Mr. Walton doesn't even know the basics of this case. I thought he had read Wilcott's testimony, but, of course, he hasn't. If he had, he would have known that Wilcott talked at length about Oswald's cryptonym. For example.... Mr. Goldsmith. Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was? Mr. Wilcott. Yes, he mentioned the cryptonym specifically under which the money was drawn. Mr. Goldsmith. And what did he tell you the cryptonym was? Mr. Wilcott. I cannot remember. Mr. Goldsmith. What was your response to this revelation as to what Oswald's cryptonym was? Did you write it down or do anything? Mr. Wilcott. No; I think that I looked through my advance book--and I had a book where the advances on project were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true.

Mathias, I dunno. Investigators always seem to “follow the money” and try to get the low-down from accountants, accountants like James Wilcott. After all, bringing a check made out to “QJWIN” or “ZR/RIFLE” or something like that might raise eyebrows at a neighborhood bank. Somebody has to know where the money goes. Btw, Marina met Robert Webster in two different Russian cities, Moscow and Leningrad. Some people would like us to believe that this was simply because she was trying to get out of the USSR, but the ease with which she traveled in country, and the ease with which she left suggests something more interesting.

Yes, since Wilcott testified so. After all, these weren't public conversations. They were conducted in the CIA Tokyo field station immediately after the assassination. What else do you think CIA officers would privately talk about in relation to Agent Oswald?

Mr. Trejo's comments are in black, my replies are in red. 1. CIA accountant James Wilcott only said that some CIA agent "told him" that he was making payments to an encrypted account for the Oswald Project. Sheer hearsay and rumor; more likely, mocking Wilcott to his face. Mr. Wilcott said otherwise: Mr. Preyer. That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. Mr. Wilcott. Well, I believed it to be a little more than speculation, that the source at least of this kind of talk was, I believe, to be something more serious than speculation. Mr. Preyer. It was your conclusion from that talk that some of these people might have knowledge that he was a CIA agent rather than that they were speculating about it? Mr. Wilcott. Yes, sir. Mr. Preyer. And you did mention the case officer who came in and told you that the money he had drawn out a few weeks earlier was drawn out for Oswald? Mr. Wilcott. Yes, sir. Mr. Preyer. He stated that as a fact and not that he believed it was drawn out for Oswald or it could have been or something like that? Mr. Wilcott. It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. 2. Even if Antonio Veciana did see DAP and LHO together in the summer of 1963 in Dallas, it was most likely in the context of killing Fidel Castro (DAP's and Guy Banister's obsession) and not JFK. (Jim Garrison already proved LHO worked with Guy Banister). You have no idea what was said at the meeting, but soon after it, the framing of the “Oswald” killed by Jack Ruby began in earnest in and around Dallas. The Phillips/Oswald meeting is further proof that Oswald was an agent regardless of what was said! 3. It's nonsense to imagine that no "CIA operations officer in the USSR met a Russian girl and eventually married,” so that you have to read LHO into that sentence. Though former CIA agent Victor Marchetti confirmed that the CIA did have a “fake defector” program in the 1950s, that in-itself is no proof that LHO was part of it. LHO could still have acted on his own. I did not say what you put in quotes above, but the fact that there was a CIA “fake defector” program in the 1950s is hardly evidence that Harvey Oswald wasn’t part of it. It clearly suggests that he WAS part of it. 4. The fact that Robert Webster and LHO "fake defected" a few months apart in 1959, claiming "sensitive" information, that is easily explained by coincidence. What other reason would a young man give? Marchetti said there were scores of such boys in the program, and the US State Department said there were scores of actual defectors during that time frame. The fact that these two guys met Marina Prusakova in Minsk near the same time, also makes sense -- they were both there at the same time, and the USSR sent all "questionable defectors" to Minsk for observation. As for Marina Prusakova, she hated the USSR and would do anything to move to the USA. So, she got around. Robert Webster and LHO "defected" a few months apart in 1959, both tried to "defect" on a Saturday, both possessed "sensitive" information of possible value to the Russians, both were befriended by Marina Prusakova, and both returned to the United States in the spring of 1962. You call this a coincidence? Isn’t it another amazing coincidence that CIA officer David Atlee Phillips was so impressed by LHO that he decided to risk an open air meeting with him in Dallas in 1963. 5. Although Richard Sprague, Richard Schweiker, and CIA agents Donald Norton and Joseph Newbrough agreed that LHO was associated with the CIA, you could add hundreds of thousands of other names of people who *also* share the same *opinion* without any final proof. These guys had no proof, either. That’s your opinion. The opinions of Sprague, Schweiker, Norton and Newbrough are worth more than yours or mine because they were far closer to the actual events being discussed here. 6. Again -- it is absurd to imagine that no CIA "contact" ever worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child. People get married under all sorts of conditions, and then they have babies. Minsk was a Soviet observation town for "questionable defectors." There were far too many "fake defectors" and "real defectors" and "double agent defectors" in the USSR in those days to justify a claim that LHO was that "contact." Donald Deneslya said he read reports of a CIA “contact” who had worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child. Are you suggesting there was a different CIA “contact” who had worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child? Name him please! 7. It is nonsense that Kenneth Porter fell in love with young, beautiful Marina Oswald in 1964, and left his family to marry her -- for the sole purpose of monitoring Marina for the CIA! Actually, men leave their wives for younger women all the time. Sure, but Mr. Porter was an employee of Collins Radio…. Collins Radio was located at 1200 North Alma Road in Richardson, Texas and held major communications contracts for the military and CIA, including the installation of communications towers in Vietnam. On November 1, 1963 the New York Times published a photo of a ship named the "Rex"and a story involving commandos that were sent ashore from the ship in Cuba on October 22-23, 1963. The Commandos were captured on a Cuban beach with high-powered sniper rifles and admitted they had been trained by the CIA to kill Cuban leaders. The "Rex" was leased to Collins Radio of Richardson, Texas. (Harvey and Lee, pp. 872-873.) One of this years new releases indicated an ongoing relationship between Collins Radio employees and the CIA in the 1970s as well. 8. George Joannides was a CIA agent, so naturally he lied about his CIA cases, as well as the CIA cases of other CIA officers. It's what CIA agents are paid to do. Didn't you know? In 1978, for the HSCA, the President's order of secrecy in the JFK Records was still in force. So, nothing the HSCA could say or do would release those FBI and CIA secrets. PERIOD. The fact remains that the CIA put a fellow in charge of lying to the HSCA who had specialized knowledge—that he kept to himself—about “Lee Harvey Oswald.” The fact that CIA agents are paid to lie for their governments is irrelevant. CIA personnel deliberately lied to a House committee about their relationships to a man accused of assassinating JFK. I thought the CIA was supposed to work for our country! 9. The CIA often gave medals to CIA agents, like Joannides, who kept CIA secrets under pressure. Apparently the Agency rewards its employees who lie to Congress about their relationship with alleged presidential assassins. Good Works, eh? 10. The FBI and the CIA do not coordinate actions, but compete with each other. The FBI has the duty of Domestic crime. The CIA has the duty of International crime. The clash occurs when criminals travel inside and outside of the USA. Then who owns the criminal's file? To this very day the FBI and CIA cannot agree. The case of Lee Harvey Oswald was an FBI matter from June, 1962, until November, 1963. The CIA (as carefully proved by Bill Simpich) was clueless about the Mexico City telephone impersonation of LHO. This is because the JFK plot was Domestic. The FBI knew. We should first scour the released FBI Records, and leave the CIA Records as secondary. It seems to me that most CTers are doing the opposite. The fact remains that the FBI and the CIA—at exactly the same time just weeks before the assassination—made clear efforts to diminish Federal monitoring of “Lee Harvey Oswald.” And you, apparently, find nothing suspicious about this. 11. Oswald’s lengthy “Lives of Russian Workers” essay reads like a high-school dropout's idea (or some biased CTers idea) of a pretty good intelligence report. Really? Let’s look at the first few paragraphs of that lengthy document…. The lives of Russian workers is governed, first and foremost, by the "collective," the smallest unit of authority in any given factory, plant, or enterprise. Sectional and shop cells form a highly organized and well supported political organization. These shop committees are in turn governed by the shop and section party chiefs who are directed by the factory or plant party secretary. This post carries officially the same amount of authority as the production director or president of the plant, but in reality it is the controlling organ of all activities at any industrial enterprise, whether political, industrial, or otherwise personal relations. The party secretary is responsible for political indoctrination of the workers, the discipline of members of the Communist party working at the plant, and the general conduct and appearance of all members. The Minsk Radio and Television plant is known throughout the Union as a major producer of electronics parts and sets. In this vast enterprise created in the early 50's, the party secretary is a 6'4" man in his early 40's -- has a long history of service to the party. He controls the activities of the 1,000 communist party members here and otherwise supervises the activities of the other 5,000 people employed at this major enterprise in Minsk, the capital of the 3rd ranking Republic Belorussia. This factory manufactures 87,000 large and powerful radio and 60,000 television sets in various sizes and ranges, excluding pocket radios, which are not mass produced anywhere in the U.S.S.R. It is this plant which manufactured several console model combination radiophonograph television sets which were shown as mass produced items of commerce before several hundreds of thousands of Americans at the Soviet Exposition in New York in 1959. After the Exhibition these sets were duly shipped back to Minsk and are now stored in a special storage room on the first floor of the Administrative Building -- at this factory, ready for the next international Exhibit. Sounds like a pretty good report to me. 12. Oswald’s possessions were searched for microdots, because Oswald foolishly used the word, "microdots" in his address book. Ask yourself -- what competent US Agent uses the secret word, "microdots" in his personal address book? Answer: NONE. So, the use of microdots shows that you are NOT a spy? Sheesh. Why were some individual letters cut out of some of Oswald’s so-called writings. To remove microdots, perhaps? 13. Oswald owned no Minox spy camera -- that was the property of the wealthy, young Michael Paine, who could afford three cars, two domiciles as well as such expensive toys. Now you think, once again, the Paines came to the rescue? A few months ago attempting to rebut my list, you wrote this: 11. Oswald owned an expensive Minox spy camera; like many Private Detectives and other spy wannabes. The FBI mucked with all JFK evidence, starting on 11/22/1963, because of J. Edgar Hoover's order that everything must fit a "Lone Nut" scenario. This was for National Security purposes. Nobody denies that anymore. Why do you keep changing your story? 14. The official WC story of the radar operator near U-2 planes defecting to Russia and returning home without a penalty smells like a spy story to a Hollywood hopeful. The US State Department explained it realistically: Oswald never defected -- he never surrendered his US Passport. He never applied for Russian citizenship. He never joined the Communist Party in Russia. He was 19 years old when he was first admitted into Russia. He was an intellectually bright and emotionally retarded young man, having fun. His pals in Russia were the 'naughty' kids, including Marina Prusakova, who hated the USSR, and couldn't wait to get to the USA. LHO laughed all the way through the fun and games. (Actually, he never had it so good. When he arrived back in the USA, he fell into the depths of minimum-wage poverty. Marina was shocked, because LHO was relatively well-to-do in Russia.) Isn’t it amazing then that both Oswald and Robert Webster tried to defect on a Saturday, when their “defections” couldn’t be “processed!” At the height of the Cold War, an American soldier who had allegedly worked in a radar installation near top-secret U-2 flights, who said at the American embassy in Moscow he would tell the Soviets everything he knew, was, according to the CIA, never even interviewed by the CIA? You’re kidding, right? The minute Harvey Oswald told Richard Snyder that he intended to disclose military secrets to the Soviets, he was violating U.S. law. He should have been detained at the embassy and returned to the U.S. for trial. But he wasn’t because he was a spy and his speech was an act to fool the Soviets who had the U.S. embassy in Moscow bugged. 15. CIA double agent Richard Case Nagell knew about some plot to assassinate some world leader -- it could have been Fidel Castro. Nagell warned LHO that if he succeeded in getting a Visa to Cuba as he was seeking -- then Nagell would have to shoot LHO dead, just in order to keep his own cover as a double-agent. LHO sat in his kitchen and wept about that. He worried about the Mexico City trip, and instead tried to make a plan to hijack some airplane or other to Cuba. The CIA didn't ignore anything Nagel said. That’s not what Nagel said. He said that BOTH the CIA and the FBI ignored his warnings. 16. LHO did save all his US Marine's money to splurge on a European holiday. His Marine buddies testified that he rarely went off the El Toro base. He was tight with money. He gave his ailing mother $100 and then went to Europe to splurge for the first time in his life. When he was nearly out of money, he asked his mother to send him more, so he could apply to Albert Schweitzer college -- and he did apply and sent the money -- but he changed his mind and "fake defected" to the USSR instead. He was bright -- but not bright enough. He didn't have the Right Stuff. Oh, please. Harvey Oswald had the right stuff to complete successfully a two and a half year assignment in the Soviet Union even though the Russians suspected he was a spy. He had to fake a suicide attempt in order to stay in country. He married a Russian woman whose family had Russian intel connections. At the start of his assignment he stayed at first class hotels on the way to Moscow and during his first days in Moscow. He also hired expensive private tourist guides at the very beginning of his stay. James Bond couldn’t have done it a whole lot better. 17. When LHO returned to the USA, it was the FBI who debriefed him, because he was now a US Domestic problem. Actually, however, the CIA did admit that they considered interviewing Oswald. But in the long run they decided not to. (Particularly after the Walker shooting.) The CIA did everything it’s power to distance itself from Oswald because Oswald was a CIA employee. They “considered” debriefing LHO? LOL! 18. The US State Department investigated LHO very carefully. They worked with LHO to ensure that he never surrendered his passport. He was 19 years old, for goodness sake! The US State Department had seen *many* cases like this by 1959. Many of the boys changed their minds after only a few months. None lasted much more than two years. They would wait it out. When LHO changed his mind in about two years, the US State Department reached out to help him, and lent him money. You are mistaken, Jim, about LHO getting an OK to travel to Cuba. That never happened. The so-called ex-Marine traitor who left the Marine corps under false circumstances and “defected” to Russia to give away U.S. military secrets was granted a new passport in 1963 allowing travel to communist nations. That DID happen. 19. It wasn't just Allen Dulles and Earl Warren who wanted the JFK Truth hidden for 75 years -- it was also FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and LBJ as well as a dozen other powerful people in Washington DC. National Security was the reason they cited -- and history will show they told the truth. Which is to say, they told us the Truth about why they had to withhold the Truth for so long: "National Security.” Harvey Oswald’s ties to both the FBI and the CIA made G-men, especially J. Edgar Hoover, all too happy to enter full scale cover-up mode. Oswald had demonstrated that he would follow even difficult orders, critical in the days and hours before and immediately after the assassination. (He absolutely had to be in the right places at the right times to become a successful patsy. And a patsy was absolutely critical for the plot to succeed. Without one, the search for the plotters would have been relentless.) 20. CIA's Ann Egerter's testimony to the HSCA was a random comment that has been taken out of context, like a "gotcha!" All she said was that a CIA 201 file was to "investigate Agency employees." Her remark was not presented as the final definition of a CIA 201 file, but CIA-did-it fanatics treat it that way. Ms. Egerter worked in J.J. Angleton's CI/SIG department and opened the 201 file on Oswald. I'll take her word over Mr. Trejo's excuses. 21. JFK and the CIA were not at war with each other. Despite angry feelings on both sides, as shown in the NY Times, and even after JFK shouted that he wanted to rip up the CIA to pieces and toss them to the wind -- those words were said in anger over the Bay of Pigs. Anybody would be angry. But afterwards, JFK actually *increased* the funding for the CIA. Oh yeah? President Kennedy and the CIA clearly were at war with each other in the weeks immediately before his assassination, as evidenced by Arthur Krock's infamous defense of the Agency in the Oct. 3, 1963 New York Times. “Oswald” was the CIA’s pawn.

Mr. Trejo's comments are in black, my replies are in red. 1. CIA accountant James Wilcott only said that some CIA agent "told him" that he was making payments to an encrypted account for the Oswald Project. Sheer hearsay and rumor; more likely, mocking Wilcott to his face. Mr. Wilcott said otherwise: Mr. Preyer. That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. Mr. Wilcott. Well, I believed it to be a little more than speculation, that the source at least of this kind of talk was, I believe, to be something more serious than speculation. Mr. Preyer. It was your conclusion from that talk that some of these people might have knowledge that he was a CIA agent rather than that they were speculating about it? Mr. Wilcott. Yes, sir. Mr. Preyer. And you did mention the case officer who came in and told you that the money he had drawn out a few weeks earlier was drawn out for Oswald? Mr. Wilcott. Yes, sir. Mr. Preyer. He stated that as a fact and not that he believed it was drawn out for Oswald or it could have been or something like that? Mr. Wilcott. It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. 2. Even if Antonio Veciana did see DAP and LHO together in the summer of 1963 in Dallas, it was most likely in the context of killing Fidel Castro (DAP's and Guy Banister's obsession) and not JFK. (Jim Garrison already proved LHO worked with Guy Banister). You have no idea what was said at the meeting, but soon after it, the framing of the “Oswald” killed by Jack Ruby began in earnest in and around Dallas. The Phillips/Oswald meeting is further proof that Oswald was an agent regardless of what was said! 3. It's nonsense to imagine that no "CIA operations officer in the USSR met a Russian girl and eventually married,” so that you have to read LHO into that sentence. Though former CIA agent Victor Marchetti confirmed that the CIA did have a “fake defector” program in the 1950s, that in-itself is no proof that LHO was part of it. LHO could still have acted on his own. I did not say what you put in quotes above, but the fact that there was a CIA “fake defector” program in the 1950s is hardly evidence that Harvey Oswald wasn’t part of it. It clearly suggests that he WAS part of it. 4. The fact that Robert Webster and LHO "fake defected" a few months apart in 1959, claiming "sensitive" information, that is easily explained by coincidence. What other reason would a young man give? Marchetti said there were scores of such boys in the program, and the US State Department said there were scores of actual defectors during that time frame. The fact that these two guys met Marina Prusakova in Minsk near the same time, also makes sense -- they were both there at the same time, and the USSR sent all "questionable defectors" to Minsk for observation. As for Marina Prusakova, she hated the USSR and would do anything to move to the USA. So, she got around. Robert Webster and LHO "defected" a few months apart in 1959, both tried to "defect" on a Saturday, both possessed "sensitive" information of possible value to the Russians, both were befriended by Marina Prusakova, and both returned to the United States in the spring of 1962. You call this a coincidence? Isn’t it another amazing coincidence that CIA officer David Atlee Phillips was so impressed by LHO that he decided to risk an open air meeting with him in Dallas in 1963. 5. Although Richard Sprague, Richard Schweiker, and CIA agents Donald Norton and Joseph Newbrough agreed that LHO was associated with the CIA, you could add hundreds of thousands of other names of people who *also* share the same *opinion* without any final proof. These guys had no proof, either. That’s your opinion. The opinions of Sprague, Schweiker, Norton and Newbrough are worth more than yours or mine because they were far closer to the actual events being discussed here. 6. Again -- it is absurd to imagine that no CIA "contact" ever worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child. People get married under all sorts of conditions, and then they have babies. Minsk was a Soviet observation town for "questionable defectors." There were far too many "fake defectors" and "real defectors" and "double agent defectors" in the USSR in those days to justify a claim that LHO was that "contact." Donald Deneslya said he read reports of a CIA “contact” who had worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child. Are you suggesting there was a different CIA “contact” who had worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child? Name him please! 7. It is nonsense that Kenneth Porter fell in love with young, beautiful Marina Oswald in 1964, and left his family to marry her -- for the sole purpose of monitoring Marina for the CIA! Actually, men leave their wives for younger women all the time. Sure, but Mr. Porter was an employee of Collins Radio…. Collins Radio was located at 1200 North Alma Road in Richardson, Texas and held major communications contracts for the military and CIA, including the installation of communications towers in Vietnam. On November 1, 1963 the New York Times published a photo of a ship named the "Rex"and a story involving commandos that were sent ashore from the ship in Cuba on October 22-23, 1963. The Commandos were captured on a Cuban beach with high-powered sniper rifles and admitted they had been trained by the CIA to kill Cuban leaders. The "Rex" was leased to Collins Radio of Richardson, Texas. (Harvey and Lee, pp. 872-873.) One of this years new releases indicated an ongoing relationship between Collins Radio employees and the CIA in the 1970s as well. 8. George Joannides was a CIA agent, so naturally he lied about his CIA cases, as well as the CIA cases of other CIA officers. It's what CIA agents are paid to do. Didn't you know? In 1978, for the HSCA, the President's order of secrecy in the JFK Records was still in force. So, nothing the HSCA could say or do would release those FBI and CIA secrets. PERIOD. The fact remains that the CIA put a fellow in charge of lying to the HSCA who had specialized knowledge—that he kept to himself—about “Lee Harvey Oswald.” The fact that CIA agents are paid to lie for their governments is irrelevant. CIA personnel deliberately lied to a House committee about their relationships to a man accused of assassinating JFK. I thought the CIA was supposed to work for our country! 9. The CIA often gave medals to CIA agents, like Joannides, who kept CIA secrets under pressure. Apparently the Agency rewards its employees who lie to Congress about their relationship with alleged presidential assassins. Good Works, eh? 10. The FBI and the CIA do not coordinate actions, but compete with each other. The FBI has the duty of Domestic crime. The CIA has the duty of International crime. The clash occurs when criminals travel inside and outside of the USA. Then who owns the criminal's file? To this very day the FBI and CIA cannot agree. The case of Lee Harvey Oswald was an FBI matter from June, 1962, until November, 1963. The CIA (as carefully proved by Bill Simpich) was clueless about the Mexico City telephone impersonation of LHO. This is because the JFK plot was Domestic. The FBI knew. We should first scour the released FBI Records, and leave the CIA Records as secondary. It seems to me that most CTers are doing the opposite. The fact remains that the FBI and the CIA—at exactly the same time just weeks before the assassination—made clear efforts to diminish Federal monitoring of “Lee Harvey Oswald.” And you, apparently, find nothing suspicious about this. 11. Oswald’s lengthy “Lives of Russian Workers” essay reads like a high-school dropout's idea (or some biased CTers idea) of a pretty good intelligence report. Really? Let’s look at the first few paragraphs of that lengthy document…. The lives of Russian workers is governed, first and foremost, by the "collective," the smallest unit of authority in any given factory, plant, or enterprise. Sectional and shop cells form a highly organized and well supported political organization. These shop committees are in turn governed by the shop and section party chiefs who are directed by the factory or plant party secretary. This post carries officially the same amount of authority as the production director or president of the plant, but in reality it is the controlling organ of all activities at any industrial enterprise, whether political, industrial, or otherwise personal relations. The party secretary is responsible for political indoctrination of the workers, the discipline of members of the Communist party working at the plant, and the general conduct and appearance of all members. The Minsk Radio and Television plant is known throughout the Union as a major producer of electronics parts and sets. In this vast enterprise created in the early 50's, the party secretary is a 6'4" man in his early 40's -- has a long history of service to the party. He controls the activities of the 1,000 communist party members here and otherwise supervises the activities of the other 5,000 people employed at this major enterprise in Minsk, the capital of the 3rd ranking Republic Belorussia. This factory manufactures 87,000 large and powerful radio and 60,000 television sets in various sizes and ranges, excluding pocket radios, which are not mass produced anywhere in the U.S.S.R. It is this plant which manufactured several console model combination radiophonograph television sets which were shown as mass produced items of commerce before several hundreds of thousands of Americans at the Soviet Exposition in New York in 1959. After the Exhibition these sets were duly shipped back to Minsk and are now stored in a special storage room on the first floor of the Administrative Building -- at this factory, ready for the next international Exhibit. Sounds like a pretty good report to me. 12. Oswald’s possessions were searched for microdots, because Oswald foolishly used the word, "microdots" in his address book. Ask yourself -- what competent US Agent uses the secret word, "microdots" in his personal address book? Answer: NONE. So, the use of microdots shows that you are NOT a spy? Sheesh. Why were some individual letters cut out of some of Oswald’s so-called writings. To remove microdots, perhaps? 13. Oswald owned no Minox spy camera -- that was the property of the wealthy, young Michael Paine, who could afford three cars, two domiciles as well as such expensive toys. Now you think, once again, the Paines came to the rescue? A few months ago attempting to rebut my list, you wrote this: 11. Oswald owned an expensive Minox spy camera; like many Private Detectives and other spy wannabes. The FBI mucked with all JFK evidence, starting on 11/22/1963, because of J. Edgar Hoover's order that everything must fit a "Lone Nut" scenario. This was for National Security purposes. Nobody denies that anymore. Why do you keep changing your story? 14. The official WC story of the radar operator near U-2 planes defecting to Russia and returning home without a penalty smells like a spy story to a Hollywood hopeful. The US State Department explained it realistically: Oswald never defected -- he never surrendered his US Passport. He never applied for Russian citizenship. He never joined the Communist Party in Russia. He was 19 years old when he was first admitted into Russia. He was an intellectually bright and emotionally retarded young man, having fun. His pals in Russia were the 'naughty' kids, including Marina Prusakova, who hated the USSR, and couldn't wait to get to the USA. LHO laughed all the way through the fun and games. (Actually, he never had it so good. When he arrived back in the USA, he fell into the depths of minimum-wage poverty. Marina was shocked, because LHO was relatively well-to-do in Russia.) Isn’t it amazing then that both Oswald and Robert Webster tried to defect on a Saturday, when their “defections” couldn’t be “processed!” At the height of the Cold War, an American soldier who had allegedly worked in a radar installation near top-secret U-2 flights, who said at the American embassy in Moscow he would tell the Soviets everything he knew, was, according to the CIA, never even interviewed by the CIA? You’re kidding, right? The minute Harvey Oswald told Richard Snyder that he intended to disclose military secrets to the Soviets, he was violating U.S. law. He should have been detained at the embassy and returned to the U.S. for trial. But he wasn’t because he was a spy and his speech was an act to fool the Soviets who had the U.S. embassy in Moscow bugged. 15. CIA double agent Richard Case Nagell knew about some plot to assassinate some world leader -- it could have been Fidel Castro. Nagell warned LHO that if he succeeded in getting a Visa to Cuba as he was seeking -- then Nagell would have to shoot LHO dead, just in order to keep his own cover as a double-agent. LHO sat in his kitchen and wept about that. He worried about the Mexico City trip, and instead tried to make a plan to hijack some airplane or other to Cuba. The CIA didn't ignore anything Nagel said. That’s not what Nagel said. He said that BOTH the CIA and the FBI ignored his warnings. 16. LHO did save all his US Marine's money to splurge on a European holiday. His Marine buddies testified that he rarely went off the El Toro base. He was tight with money. He gave his ailing mother $100 and then went to Europe to splurge for the first time in his life. When he was nearly out of money, he asked his mother to send him more, so he could apply to Albert Schweitzer college -- and he did apply and sent the money -- but he changed his mind and "fake defected" to the USSR instead. He was bright -- but not bright enough. He didn't have the Right Stuff. Oh, please. Harvey Oswald had the right stuff to complete successfully a two and a half year assignment in the Soviet Union even though the Russians suspected he was a spy. He had to fake a suicide attempt in order to stay in country. He married a Russian woman whose family had Russian intel connections. At the start of his assignment he stayed at first class hotels on the way to Moscow and during his first days in Moscow. He also hired expensive private tourist guides at the very beginning of his stay. James Bond couldn’t have done it a whole lot better. 17. When LHO returned to the USA, it was the FBI who debriefed him, because he was now a US Domestic problem. Actually, however, the CIA did admit that they considered interviewing Oswald. But in the long run they decided not to. (Particularly after the Walker shooting.) The CIA did everything it’s power to distance itself from Oswald because Oswald was a CIA employee. They “considered” debriefing LHO? LOL! 18. The US State Department investigated LHO very carefully. They worked with LHO to ensure that he never surrendered his passport. He was 19 years old, for goodness sake! The US State Department had seen *many* cases like this by 1959. Many of the boys changed their minds after only a few months. None lasted much more than two years. They would wait it out. When LHO changed his mind in about two years, the US State Department reached out to help him, and lent him money. You are mistaken, Jim, about LHO getting an OK to travel to Cuba. That never happened. The so-called ex-Marine traitor who left the Marine corps under false circumstances and “defected” to Russia to give away U.S. military secrets was granted a new passport in 1963 allowing travel to communist nations. That DID happen. 19. It wasn't just Allen Dulles and Earl Warren who wanted the JFK Truth hidden for 75 years -- it was also FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and LBJ as well as a dozen other powerful people in Washington DC. National Security was the reason they cited -- and history will show they told the truth. Which is to say, they told us the Truth about why they had to withhold the Truth for so long: "National Security.” Harvey Oswald’s ties to both the FBI and the CIA made G-men, especially J. Edgar Hoover, all too happy to enter full scale cover-up mode. Oswald had demonstrated that he would follow even difficult orders, critical in the days and hours before and immediately after the assassination. (He absolutely had to be in the right places at the right times to become a successful patsy. And a patsy was absolutely critical for the plot to succeed. Without one, the search for the plotters would have been relentless.) 20. CIA's Ann Egerter's testimony to the HSCA was a random comment that has been taken out of context, like a "gotcha!" All she said was that a CIA 201 file was to "investigate Agency employees." Her remark was not presented as the final definition of a CIA 201 file, but CIA-did-it fanatics treat it that way. Ms. Egerter worked in J.J. Angleton's CI/SIG department and opened the 201 file on Oswald. I'll take her word over Mr. Trejo's excuses. 21. JFK and the CIA were not at war with each other. Despite angry feelings on both sides, as shown in the NY Times, and even after JFK shouted that he wanted to rip up the CIA to pieces and toss them to the wind -- those words were said in anger over the Bay of Pigs. Anybody would be angry. But afterwards, JFK actually *increased* the funding for the CIA. Oh yeah? President Kennedy and the CIA clearly were at war with each other in the weeks immediately before his assassination, as evidenced by Arthur Krock's infamous defense of the Agency in the Oct. 3, 1963 New York Times. “Oswald” was the CIA’s pawn.

In the online edition of today’s Fort Worth Star-Telegram, it is reported that even people without much knowledge of “Lee Harvey Oswald” knew he attended Stripling School. It reports that Oswald’s “teachers and classmates remember him at Stripling, though there is no official record.” Read it here.