Michael Clark

Excellent contribution, Jim. I should not be, but always am, at the credible and very public suspicions that there was more to the unfolding, official story so soon after the assassination.

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10408-10286.pdf GROWERY QUHOPS

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10408-10165.pdf KDAFGHAN -1 Not in MFF. 1978. HSCA doc requesting interview with KDAFGHAN -1 (K1) who was involved with surveillance in Mexico City in 1963. CIA would rather fly K1 to Washington than have HSCA personnel meet him in Madrid. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10408-10166.pdf Due to publicity, K1 should be identifiable through research and his employment at BERLITZ https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10408-10168.pdf

John, What I think you are missing, “taunts and insults” aside, is that your observations and arguments, by and large (wholly?) are without merit; they are completely wrong. Acknowledging your posts and giving them there due critical attention, which amounts to none, is very important. I, for one, would not want a lurker or passer-by to think that your contributions are a reflection of the kind of work that is desired or respected here. Your contributions, in my opinion, have driven-off or shut down many worthy contributors because they can’t bear to see their work stand in proximity to yours. In this JFKA thing of ours we always have to ask, née assume, at least as a hypothesis, if the the ends are an intended consequence and outcome of the means. So, what are we to assume about the consequent alienation of respected contributors and rational debates as a response to your offerings?

@Jim Hargrove Jim, why don’t you have the Jane Roman “Keene Interest” story listed close to number 9?

Thanks David, I have not read Dorothy, but I did read some of skolnik’s work. I very well may have formed my take on that accident from him.

I am thinking that the plane was brought down by deceptive ground guidance systems. The plane was guided down too low, short of the airport, such that it could not recover. There were a number of survivors and no reports of an explosion. IRRC there were ground guidance systems that were OOS at the time.

John, you should read the rules of this forum again. They are the only thing keeping toungues tied from an honest assessment of your “contributions”. Post reported...

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10234-10144.pdf AMDURA-1 Not in MFF AMBUCK -1 Not in MFF

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10247-10053.pdf MHSPAWN Not in MFF AMICE-14

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10247-10055.pdf AMICE-14 FUBANKRUPT Not in MFF Project mainly concerned with Christian Democratic Youth FUBIAS-4 Not in MFF

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10256-10208.pdf JMOCEAN Not in Mary aferrell Foundation list of CIA cryptonyms. Identified as James Wilcott. Unfortunately the ID is sketchy since the original ID was redacted. Another article on Wilcott, for reference. https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/JamesWilcottJFK+US.html

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10256-10208.pdf JMOCEAN Not in MFF. identified as James Wilcott. KUVEST. Not in MFF ODIBEX

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10271-10036.pdf ZRCABLE. Not in MFF AMPALM 1. Leading action against ZRCABLE, believing it to be pro Communist

13-3 location code 13-3. Is a CIA location code name which is listed in important contexts. Its identification is elusive. If you see it, please share it.If you see it identified that could be a very important find. several docs have been found, fifth post from bottom of thrd page of this thread..

On my iPad... go to your profile... click on the photo icon near your pic. then you can upload a new avatar..... but you first need to take the phot you want to use, and then resize it and save it in a size that meets the criteria of a max of .1 mb. Irfanview was a program that I always used to resize and resample things, like avatars. If you want to send me a pic, I will try to get it to the right size for you.

For reference, Kayvan thinks he can see a county records building shooter in the sprocket holes of the Zapruder film. That anomaly can be seen and the vast majorly of the Z frames, through the whole sweep. It’s a ridiculous notion. Between Butler and Kayvan, well, good offerings by Chris and Robin just get wholly contaminated with bunk.

Robin, Chris. As always, great work. Thanks for sharing.

Kirk, I enjoy reading your posts and I respect your intelligence. That said, don’t be offended if I don’t use your tip at the racetrack or plan my camping trip around your weather report. Who, besides Bart Simpson and Pat Nixon, would have predicted the morass in which we find ourselves today.

I created a thread for this off-topic discussion.

Kirk, I am not saying that. Of course, time is of the essence. Big question, one word........... Pence? For 9 years? I think that this is what Pelosi is thinking But, in the end, crimes are crimes, and Trump should be held accountable. Things are surely more complicated than I understand. Any assertion to the contrary would be an absurdity. I think I am smart enough, and have an appropriate background to fairly say whether I am looking at a document that has teeth or not.I haven’t seen it. I like Biden but he is not a slam-dunk in 2020. We need a slam-dunk.

Cliff, that article is not something for which I would expect my Representative to put his head on the block. The wheat needs to be separated from the chaffe. There is chaffe in there, don’t you think? To to be sure, I scanned it only. I dead not give it a good read, and take notes, in the 10 minutes since you presented it. Either way, the people need to press-upon their reps. I think it is old fashioned, but that does not make it unnecessary.

Admins, I did not want to put this here. But, did not want disrupt the Barr/JFK thread; Lastly, I did not want to walk away from this discussion, crying “off-topic”. Move it your discretion. Another poster wrote: These are the 10 episodes Mueller investigated for obstruction of justice  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/18/18484947/mueller-report-obstruction-of-justice-summary

We’re not talking about research. Were talking about legalese. Were talking about indictable offenses. Such an expose would only be needed to be done once. The same information would be the same, exact information that should be brought to the Representative of every Congressional district across the US. So to follow up on my earlier question and your above post... you are saying that”Yes Michael Clark, needs to do draft an indictment against the President, so it can be brought to 500 + Representatives, in Washington for action.” Knowing that Trump is unfit is not enough. It’s nothing.

It seems that people think that Mueller was supposed to do something beyond what he did. He can’t, legally, do anymore. If Trump killed Ivanka, Mueller could do nothing. It’s up to The House of Representatives. The House is the arm of the people. I think that is too much for sooooooo many people to understand and accept. I know everyone here understands that, but there seems to be some kind of befuddlement, even here, as to why it doesn’t “just happen”. There inlies the “mumbling”