4 hours ago, Keyvan Shahrdar said:

I'll provide you with a probable insight into the non-censored documents. They may contain subtle hints suggesting Russia's involvement in JFK's assassination. This, however, could be entirely false, serving as a pretext to maintain secrecy and prevent us from understanding what truly transpired.

Why limit speculation to Russia.  Is it possible that one or more of America's closest allies — then and now — failed to impede, or alert, or provide information post-assassination. Revelation of said documents would upend the delicate balance with Europe, and the stability of NATO.  My candidates are: Spain. France. West Germany. with Ireland the outlier.  In that order. 

Remember that Chancellor Adenauer's Bundeswehr generals — who also led NATO at the time (and at least one of whom was a convicted N-azi war criminal) —  were meeting with US Joint Chiefs in the Gold Room of the Pentagon on Friday, November 22.

10 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Ramaswamy promoted his belief that birthright citizenship – which is in the U.S. Constitution – should end, along with the automatic right of U.S. citizens to vote in elections at the age of 18, both of which would dramatically reshape the electorate, greatly reducing the historically more Democratic, younger voters.

The Twenty-sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads: "The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."

He also wants a constitutional amendment that would require U.S. citizens to "earn" their right to vote, a right that too, technically, is automatic,...

 

Oh gee. Let's all vote for this guy and just voluntarily give up our right to live in a democracy.

Steve Thomas

I remember when Dallas oilman H. L. Hunt argued he and his offspring should have at least two votes each, commensurate with their ability to make money (from exploitation of natural resources robbed from the commons!) Don't give Ramaswamy any ideas.

4 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Robert,

       I think the Fox/MAGA Horst Wessel is Ashli Babbitt, although, to my knowledge, Ted Nugent hasn't written a MAGA anthem about her yet.  🙄

 

sorry to interrupt, but I was just searching  for a theme song for News Corp! You may be on to something.

How "deep" is the ocean came to mind, but I wouldn't do that to Ella.  

Maybe Willy could write it, ala "Wag the Dog"?

8 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

😅Get out your global salt map.  Murdoch is no fool!

NEWS CORPORATION (pay close attention to the Bancroft/Dow Jones entities, each with its own board with their individual tentacles)
Television

News Corp Australia

• Foxtel (65%)
  • Fox Sports Australia
    • Fox Sports News
    • Fox Cricket
    • Fox Footy
    • Fox League
  • Foxtel Networks
    • Fox8
    • Fox Classics
    • Fox Crime
    • Real Life
    • Fox One
    • Fox Showcase
    • Fox Comedy
    • Fox Sci Fi
    • Fox Sleuth
    • Fox Docos
    • BoxSets
    • Lifestyle
      • Lifestyle Food
      • Lifestyle Home
      • Fox Arena
    • A&E
    • History
    • Crime & Investigation
    • Nickelodeon (35%; joint venture with Paramount Global)
      • Nick Jr.
      • NickMusic
    • Main Event (66.6%; joint venture with Optus Television)
    • Foxtel Movies
      • UltraHD
      • Premiere
      • Family
      • Kids
      • Action
      • Comedy
      • Thriller
      • Romance
      • Drama
      • Hits
      • Greats
      • LMN
  • Streamotion
    • Kayo Sports
    • Binge
    • Flash
• Australian News Channel
  • Sky News Australia
    • Sky News New Zealand
    • Sky News on WIN
  • Sky News Weather
  • Sky News Extra
  • Australia Channel (News Streaming channel)

News UK

• TalkTV

Internet

• news.com.au
• Punters.com.au – Australian horse racing and bookmaker affiliate^[1]
• SuperCoach
• tips.com.au
• hipages
• racenet.com.au
• odds.com.au
• Mogo
• onebigswitch.com.au
• Knewz, a news aggregator
• REA Group (about 60%) including realestate.com.au
• Business Spectator
• eurekareport.com.au
• Australia's Best Recipes – bestrecipes.com.au
• delicious.com.au including extensions delicious. Travel, delicious. Eat Out, the American Express delicious. Month Out, Studio delicious., delicious. Drinks and delicious. Produce Awards^[2]
• Kidspot.com.au
• taste.com.au
• homelife.com.au
• myfun.com

Advertising, Branding & Tech

Global

• Storyful

News UK

• bridge studio
• wireless Group
  • wireless studios
  • urban media
  • First Radio
  • Switchdigital
  • TIBUS
  • ZESTY

News Corp Australia

• SUDDENLY - Content Agency
• Medium Rare Content Agency
• HT&E (Here, There & Everywhere)
• News Xtend

Radio

News UK

• wireless Group
  • talkSPORT
  • talkSPORT 2
  • talkRADIO
  • Virgin Radio
  • Virgin Radio Anthems
  • Virgin Radio Chilled
  • Virgin Radio Groove
  • FM104
  • Q102
  • 96FM
  • c103
  • Live 95FM
  • LMFM
  • U105
  • Times Radio

Magazines and Inserts (digital and print)

News Corp Australia

• body+soul
• Brisbane Broncos
• Business Daily
• delicious
• Escape
• Foxtel
• GQ Australia
• Hit
• Kidspot
• Mansion Australia
• Motoring
• Sportsman
• Super Food Ideas
• taste.com.au
• The Deal
• The Weekend Australian Magazine
• Vogue Australia
• Vogue Living
• Whimn
• Wish

News & Magazines (digital and print)

United Kingdom

News UK

• The Sun
• The Times
• The Sunday Times
• Press Association (part owned, News UK is one of 26 shareholders)
• The Times Literary Supplement (TLS)

Australia

News Corp Australia

National

• The Australian including weekly insert magazine The Deal and monthly insert magazine (wish)^[3]
• The Weekend Australian
• Australian Associated Press (formerly)
• news.com.au

New South Wales

• The Daily Telegraph^[4]
• The Sunday Telegraph including insert magazine sundaymagazine^[5]

Victoria

• Herald Sun^[6]
• Sunday Herald Sun including insert magazine sundaymagazine^[7]

Queensland

• The Courier-Mail including weekly insert magazine QWeekend^[8]
• The Sunday Mail^[9]
• Brisbane News^[10]

South Australia

• The Advertiser including the monthly insert The Adelaide magazine^[11]
• Sunday Mail^[12]

Tasmania

• The Mercury^[13]
• The Sunday Tasmanian^[14]

Northern Territory

• Northern Territory News^[15]
• Sunday Territorian^[16]

Community suburban newspapers

Sydney

Cumberland/Courier (NSW) newspapers^[17]

• Blacktown Advocate
• Canterbury-Bankstown Express
• Central
• Central Coast Express Advocate
• Fairfield Advance
• Hills Shire Times
• Hornsby and Upper North Shore Advocate
• Inner West Courier
• Liverpool Leader
• Macarthur Chronicle
• Mt Druitt-St Marys Standard
• NINETOFIVE
• North Shore Times
• Northern District Times
• NORTHSIDE
• Parramatta Advertiser
• Penrith Press
• Rouse Hill Times
• Southern Courier
• The Manly Daily
• The Mosman Daily
• Village Voice Balmain
• Wentworth Courier

Melbourne

Leader (Vic) newspapers^[18]

• Bayside Leader
• Berwick/Pakenham Cardinia Leader
• Brimbank Leader
• Caulfield Glen Eira/Port Philip Leader
• Cranbourne Leader
• Dandenong/Springvale Dandenong Leader
• Diamond Valley Leader
• Frankston Standard/Hastings Leader
• Free Press Leader
• Heidelberg Leader
• Hobsons Bay Leader
• Hume Leader
• Knox Leader
• Lilydale & Yarra Valley Leader
• Manningham Leader
• Maribyrnong Leader
• Maroondah Leader
• Melbourne Leader
• Melton/Moorabool Leader
• Moonee Valley Leader
• Moorabbin Kingston/Moorabbin Glen Eira Leader
• Mordialloc Chelsea Leader
• Moreland Leader
• Mornington Peninsula Leader
• Northcote Leader
• Preston Leader
• Progress Leader
• Stonnington Leader
• Sunbury/Macedon Ranges Leader
• Waverley/Oakleigh Monash Leader
• Whitehorse Leader
• Whittlesea Leader
• Wyndham Leader

Brisbane

Quest (QLD) newspapers^[19]

• Albert & Logan News (Fri)
• Albert & Logan News (Wed)
• Caboolture Shire Herald
• Caloundra Journal
• City News
• City North News
• City South News
• Ipswich News
• Logan West Leader
• Maroochy Journal
• North-West News
• Northern Times
• Northside Chronicle
• Pine Rivers Press/North Lakes Times
• Redcliffe and Bayside Herald
• South-East Advertiser
• South-West News/Springfield News
• Southern Star
• The Noosa Journal
• weekender
• Westside News
• Wynnum Herald
• Weekender Essential Sunshine Coast

Adelaide

Messenger (SA) newspapers^[20]

• Adelaide Matters
• City Messenger
• City North Messenger
• East Torrens Messenger
• Eastern Courier Messenger
• Guardian Messenger
• Hills & Valley Messenger
• Leader Messenger
• News Review Messenger
• Portside Messenger
• Southern Times Messenger
• Weekly Times Messenger

Perth

Community (WA) newspapers^[21] (50.1%) (Formerly)

• Advocate
• Canning Times
• Comment News
• Eastern Reporter
• Fremantle-Cockburn Gazette
• Guardian Express
• Hills-Avon Valley Gazette
• Joondalup-Wanneroo Times
• Mandurah Coastal / Pinjarra Murray Times
• Melville Times
• Midland-Kalamunda Reporter
• North Coast Times
• Southern Gazette
• Stirling Times
• Weekend-Kwinana Courier
• Weekender
• Western Suburbs Weekly

Darwin

Sun (NT) newspapers^[22]

• Darwin Sun
• Litchfield Sun
• Palmerston Sun

Regional and rural newspapers

New South Wales

• Tweed Sun
• Tweed Daily News

Victoria

• Echo
• Geelong Advertiser
• GeelongNEWS
• The Weekly Times

Queensland

• Bowen Independent
• Burdekin Advocate
• Cairns Sun
• Gold Coast Bulletin
• Gold Coast Sun
• Herbert River Express
• Home Hill Observer
• Innisfail Advocate
• Northern Miner
• Port Douglas & Mossman Gazette
• Tablelander – Atherton
• Tablelands Advertiser
• The Cairns Post
• The Noosa News
• The Sunshine Coast Daily
• Townsville Bulletin
• Toowoomba Chronicle
• Townsville Sun
• weekender
• Daily Mercury (Mackay)

Tasmania

• Derwent Valley Gazette
• Tasmanian Country

Northern Territory

• Centralian Advocate

Papua New Guinea

• Papua New Guinea Post-Courier (63%)

United States

• Fox Corporation including Fox News
• New York Post
• The Wall Street Journal
• Investor's Business Daily
• realtor.com
• Move (80%)

International

Dow Jones & Company

Consumer Media Group

• The Wall Street Journal – the leading US financial newspaper
• Wall Street Journal Europe closed
• The Wall Street Journal Asia closed
• Barron's – weekly financial markets magazine
• Marketwatch – financial news and information website
• Financial News
• Heat Street - news and opinion website
• Mansion Global - global luxury property website

Enterprise Media Group

• Dow Jones Newswires – global, real-time news and information provider.
• Factiva – provides business news and information together with content delivery tools and services.
• Dow Jones Indexes – stock market indexes and indicators, including the Dow Jones Industrial Average. (10% ownership)
• Dow Jones Financial Information Services – produces databases, electronic media, newsletters, conferences, directories, and other information services on specialised markets and industry sectors.
• Betten Financial News – leading Dutch language financial and economic news service.

Strategic Alliances

• STOXX (33%) – joint venture with Deutsche Boerse and SWG Group for the development and distribution of Dow Jones STOXX indices.

Wireless Group

• Talksport^[23]
• TalkRadio^[24]

Books

• HarperCollins
  • 4th Estate
  • Collins
  • Ecco Press
  • Harlequin Enterprises
  • Harper Perennial
  • Harper Voyager
  • HMH Books & Media
  • Kappa Books
  • Modern Publishing
  • Unisystems Inc.
  • Zondervan Publishing (Christian publishing company taken over by HarperCollins in 1988)
  • Thomas Nelson (Christian publishing company taken over by HarperCollins in 2011)
  • Inspirio – religious gift production
  • 3000 Pictures (joint venture with Sony Pictures) – film and television production company

Former assets

Sold

• TV Guide
  • TV Guide Magazine
• Dow Jones Local Media Group
• Star
• San Antonio Express-News
• Armada Holdings
• South China Morning Post
• Seventeen
• Amplify Education
• Ansett Australia
• Daily Racing Form
• The Weekly Standard
• Boston Herald
• Myspace
• Vedomosti (33%) – Russia's leading financial newspaper (joint venture with Financial Times and Independent Media).^[25] (Stake sold in 2015)
• Los Angeles Dodgers
• Remodelista (2016-2019)
• Gardenista (2016-2019)

Defunct

• Authonomy via HarperCollins (closed in 2015)
• The Daily (2011-2012)
• News of the World (1843-2011) (closed)
• Today (1986-1995)
• The London Paper (2006-2009)
• Consolidated Media Holdings (2007-2012)
• Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (1994-2007)
• Sky News Business/Your Money (2008-2019)
• Far Eastern Economic Review
• Fox Funny (2019-2023)
• Big League (1920-2020)

20 minutes ago, Robert Montenegro said:

 

Holy falangismo, Batman!

With that rouges gallery on the board of directors, it's like News Corporation is a front for international fascism.

Reichsminister Goebbels would be proud.

FOX should change it's bumper music to Horst-Wessel-Lied...

 

😅Get out your global salt map.  Murdoch is no fool!

And check out the most recent investment of Siddiqui's Naya Capital Management: 

About Asa Ren

Asa Ren provides drug discovery and personalized treatment services. It develops clinical-genomic databases from both healthy, and confirmed diagnostic populations. The company was founded in 2016 and is based in Jakarta, Indonesia.

He creates a foundation with an impassioned name, CHILDREN'S INVESTMENT to legitimize presence in vulnerable populations around the globe, and then invests in private for profit drug development and "personalized treatment services" within that population with special focus on children and women's reproductive rights? (Haiti rings a bell!)  But Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci are the devil incarnate?

11 hours ago, Paul Cummings said:

I was responding to Leslie's comment about Chauncey Holt. Not looking to start another thread or interrupt this one. 

I wonder if there is an old thread that could be revived?  As Paul just noted, the uniformed guys with dormant rifles are probably equally if not more significant.

8 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

I didn’t mean to derail this thread. It is actually not the tramps themselves (tramps? - not really), or the possible Lansdale, it is the two uniformed cops holding rifles. Were they ever identified? But let’s leave it for now.

Paul, I know where you're going with this, and it's a logical hypothesis, but I hope we take this one bite at a time in a methodical fashion.  Let's identify whether cowboy in the photo is a border patrol officer working directly with Angleton; or possibly Lafitte in disguise; or merely a cowboy bystander?  Blowing too much air in the balloon risks it bursting if you get my drift.

1 minute ago, Leslie Sharp said:

@Roger Odisio

The last thing you would want is for Oswald to figure out, or even sense, that he was being set up to take the rap.  He would run and the whole project probably would collapse.

You have absolutely no way of knowing whether Oswald was oblivious to being set up as the patsy.

There is however at least one incident that, if verified, serves as proof that he became alarmed and reached out to the FBI.  We're awaiting confirmation; if it holds up, it will corroborate what Lafitte wrote on October 5, Oswald — (issue!) check with caretaker ..., and Lafitte's November 2 entry, Runner Runner [FBI] w/T. 4 P.M.

@Allen Lowe think of what you are saying - t here it is 60 years later and it worked - he is considered, by many if not most, to have been the killer. And by the official record. It worked - it worked - so where's the problem?

I don't understand what you are saying, let alone asking.

1 hour ago, Allen Lowe said:

• •  

 

Posted July 1

"LS:  The "problem" with Prayer Man remains, how can he be an effective patsy if he's filmed standing outside the building at the time of the shots"

think of what you are saying - t here it is 60 years later and it worked - he is considered, by many if not most, to have been the killer. And by the official record. It worked - it worked - so where's the problem?

@Roger Odisio

The last thing you would want is for Oswald to figure out, or even sense, that he was being set up to take the rap.  He would run and the whole project probably would collapse.

You have absolutely no way of knowing whether Oswald was oblivious to being set up as the patsy.

There is however at least one incident that, if verified, serves as proof that he became alarmed and reached out to his caretaker or the FBI, perhaps one and the same.  We're awaiting confirmation; if it holds up, it will corroborate what Lafitte wrote on October 5, Oswald — (issue!) check with caretaker ..., and Lafitte's November 2 entry, Runner Runner [FBI] w/T. 4 P.M.

Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, parent company of Fox News whose "hosts" Hannity, Ingram, and most egregiously Tucker Carlson (the golden boy of "the community") bolstered Trump's 2015 campaign, supported and promoted his 4-year racist xenophobic hate-filled agenda, pandering to his MAGA cult for profit, and finally, knowingly lied to us about claims the 2020 election was stolen, boasts a prestigious board of directors that includes:

Jose Maria Aznar — controversial former prime minister of Spain. Aznar was a member of the conservative right-wing People's Alliance, founded by seven former officials in Franco's dictatorship, six of whom served at a cabinet level.  He began advising Murdoch in 2006.

Natalie Bancroft — member of the dynastic Bancroft family, founders of Dow Jones — the epitome of Military-Industrial machinations for decades. Her relative, Mary Bancroft — a spy in her own right — was among CIA Director Allen Dulles's numerous paramours. Did she inherit the sins of her ancestors? Of course not.  Has she denounced them? Unlikely, if she's comfortable sitting on Murdoch's corporate board.  

Ana Paula Pessoa — Brazilian entrepreneur whose investment creations include Brunswick whose current board include former executives of Ford Motor Company, Coca Cola bottling, Phelps Dodge, and BorgWarner.  For those unfamiliar, these four entities represent the micro of the macro of the Industrial leg of the Military Industrial Complex ... NOT the "government deep state." a phrase coopted by Fox and Donald Trump, but the original complex Ike warned about.

Massroor Siddique — former Sr. VP Putnam Investments (Putnam currently holds a portfolio in excess of $185bn) founded in the 1930s by Boston Brahmin George Putnam whose trustees from 1956-1972 included Vannevar Bush, an early administrator of the crash program to create the atomic bomb, the Manhattan Project. (Vannevar Bush likely needs no introduction on this forum; it should be noted, in context of the "deep state" that he also served on the boards of AT&T and Merck & Co.) Siddique's brainchild, Children's Investment Fund Foundation, with current assets of $4bn and ties to the Clinton Foundation, is focused on children's health worldwide (mandated vaccines?), as well as reproductive health (women's right to choose?) and environmental protection globally (radical free markets will take care of that), and lays claim to being "the largest philanthropy that focuses specifically on improving children's lives." (the new Imperialism?)   

So, those who fell for the conman grifter's pledge in 2015 to bring down the "Deep State" (AND release all of the JFK assassination records as he promised and was in a legitimate position to do so), should ask why he didn't start with Fox and work his way up Murdoch's very own food chain? Instead, he / they attempted to turn US citizens against their constitutional and democratically elected government.

This, coming from a man who for five years enabled Trump to sow lies and discontent in his effort to bring down a constitutional government?

Dorsey's "world leader exception" suggests he's more inclined toward authority than democracy.  "Until 2021, Dorsey applied "world leader" exceptions that enabled President Donald Trump to post content on Twitter that would normally be removed or generate sanctions per the platform's rules."

And shouldn't he and RFK Jr. be more measured, and precise, when discussing the assassination in Dallas, particularly in this volatile political climate?  

"Your GOVERNMENT Killed Your President in 1963" is tantamount to yelling fire in the theatre in these times.

1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

Paul, this has been discussed in depth in multiple threads on the forum.  As Leslie suggests an objective updated summary would be nice for the benefit of all, including those newer to the subject would be appreciated.  

Maybe the arrest records for starters.  For the sake of Paul Cummings and others, maybe we need to go from a picture of Angleton with a well dressed cowboy to the tramps.  I'm not sure how he relates to them.  But I'm glad people like Paul are interested in the subject.

I concur @Ron Bulman @Paul Brancato @Paul Cummings but how might revisiting the tramps advance the subject of this particular thread which is Angleton and the Cowboy?

Could a new thread be launched focused on the tramps?

19 minutes ago, Paul Cummings said:

It helps fill in the puzzle. 

To explain further, once Hank landed the datebook, I started prioritizing the pieces of the puzzle I recognized from decades of research into the MIC.  The tramps didn't surface in Lafitte's records so I found no reason to revisit the incident. Purely subjective, I still don't see how they might shift us off dead center unless it can be established who sent them to Dallas, who instructed them to be arrested, who orchestrated their parade. If those questions have been answered in the past four or five years, I would be intrigued to read a summary. 

1 hour ago, Paul Cummings said:

Leslie, I would go to youtube type Lois Gibson or go to her website as she staked her career and reputation that the older tramp was Holt. I guess I'm looking for specifics when it comes to the unsubstantiated or where he's been discredited. Sorry I'd like specifics unless the specifics as him being one of the Tramps.

Thanks Paul.  

Fundamentally, the identity of the tramps, regardless of who they were, doesn't advance the investigation to the extent of verifiable identification of those tasked with firing at JFK. At this juncture, subjectively speaking, I think the episode may have been a deliberately staged canard. 

37 minutes ago, Paul Cummings said:

Leslie, in regards to your post about Chauncey Holt.

Paul, Chauncey Holt has been discredited widely to the extent the facts have been blurred beyond restoration imho, and perhaps by design; it's an area of inquiry that was intriguing decades ago and I had my own personal candidates for the tramps, none of whom was Holt.   Your thoughts?

I remain intrigued by the possibility that Lansdale is the character walking in the opposite direction in one of the tramp photos.

2 minutes ago, Paul Cummings said:

Hi Leslie, what are the unsubstantiated claims?

Hi Paul, not sure what you're referring to?  

@Allen Lowe " . . .  continue to be wary of supposed recountings of events like LaFitte's diary because they are just too perfectly designed to fit into the plot - . . . "

Dick Russell, student of the assassination for decades and esteemed author on the topic, analyzed a significant number of entries from Pierre Lafitte's 1963 datebook on behalf of the well-regarded Australian documentary film company contracted to produce a 6-8 part series based on Albarelli's investigation.  

For those who have been discouraged to even consider Coup in Dallas based on certain Amazon reviews — provided by some who have never even read the book and one in particular who lauds himself as a professional yet posted an analysis of a physical instrument (datebook) he has never laid eyes on both the EF and on Amazon — as well as the community moccasin telepraph which we all know includes some pretty toxic entities prone to resorting to threat if for instance Coup makes traction (one in particular who left a voice mail chant,  the datebook will never see the light of day, bitch  —  the following was provided by Dick for publication in the Front Matter of Coup in Dallas:  
 

[note: I have no hesitation moving Dick's concluding paragraph here:   In summary, it is possible from this datebook to piece together many things about the assassination that could be merely educated guesses until now. I believe, presuming the datebook is verified as having been written by Lafitte in 1963, that this constitutes probably the strongest evidence that has ever come to light of a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy.]
 

DR writes,

Let me here offer my insights into some of the names and dates in the datebook, and their potential significance in revealing the identities of the perpetrators behind what’s been called “the crime of the century.” I should add that the datebook also contains references to individuals whose names have not appeared before in assassination-related documents. From the datebook, it can only be concluded that Lafitte was directly involved with a number of people covertly connected to the assassination. 

SOUETRE. This clearly is Jean Rene Souetre, whose name appears in a number of entries between April 25 and December 4. It appears that Souetre was part of a “kill squad” who showed up for meetings in New Orleans, Madrid, and Mexico City prior to the assassination. Souetre’s name first appeared in the “assassination literature” following a 1977 release of CIA documents, which stated that “he had been expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination . . . to either Mexico or Canada.” According to what the FBI told a Souetre acquaintance whom I interviewed, he’d been “flown out that afternoon by a private pilot . . . in a government plane.” Souetre was a known hitman for the OAS, a terrorist group in France that had targeted President de Gaulle. 

WILLOUGHBY: Until my first book came out in 1992, assembling circumstantial evidence linking retired General Charles Willoughby as a possible “mastermind” of the assassination, no one had raised such a possibility before. The datebook cites the far-right General Willoughby numerous times, specifying: “Nov 22 – Willoughby backup – team [with a strikethrough of the word team] squad – tech building – phone booth/bridge.” Prior to that, an April 12 entry states: “Willoughby soldier kill squads.” 

SILVERTHORNE: That same datebook entry says: “Silverthorne – Ft. Worth – Airport – Mexico.” The name of Joseph “Joe” Silverthorne did not appear publicly until the late 1970s, when CIA officer William Harvey’s handwritten notes about the agency’s QJ/WIN assassination program was released. Silverthorne was a pilot who traveled “for a certain federal agency” to “countless countries” for “reasons best left unsaid,” according to author Albarelli’s 1996 interview with him.

ANGLETON: Listed in the datebook by his last name as well as initials (JA and JJA), the then-head of Counterintelligence for the CIA appears to have been involved in “high-level gathering in DC'' during which “Lancelot planning” was discussed. The Lancelot reference is to a plot to kill JFK. The datebook’s final mention of James Angleton, (December 5, 1963) states: “JA – CLOSE OUT LANCELOT.” Angleton’s name was not generally known until the mid-1970s, when he was forced out of the CIA following revelations that he’d organized an illegal domestic spying program. 

GEORGE W.: The several references in the datebook, including one (August 29) regarding “shipment of LSD for New Orleans & Dallas – Texas laws?” are clearly referencing George White. He was a key operative in the CIA’s top-secret MKULTRA program to control human behavior using drugs, hypnosis, and other means. He worked undercover for the same narcotics agency as Lafitte. White’s name never came to light until 1977 during a congressional investigation. 

TOM D.: Also referred to in several entries, this was Thomas Eli Davis, Jr., first mentioned in 1978 in the assassination literature as having trained anti-Castro Cubans and had been acquainted with Jack Ruby. The September 27 entry about Mexico City says: “Oswald – Comercio Hotel – meet with Tom D. at Luma.” It was stated by the Warren Commission that Oswald had been to the Comercio; the Hotel Luma was first mentioned in my 1992 book as a meeting point. The September 29 datebook implies (“Tom at embassy – done”) that Davis, who resembled Oswald, had impersonated him in visiting either the Cuban or Russian embassies in Mexico City. 

CRICHTON: The name of Jack Crichton, who was connected to Military Intelligence and arranged the first translators for Marina Oswald after the assassination, appears several times in datebook entries in advance of the assassination. 

A. L. EHRMAN: This July 30 entry clearly refers to Anita L. Ehrman, a foreign correspondent whose body was found that day in her Washington apartment. The only other reference to this appears in my 1992 book, citing a notebook seized from Richard Case Nagell by the FBI on September 20, 1963 but not released until 1975. That entry says: “ANITA L. EHRMAN. 7-30-63 WASHINGTON, D.C.” Nagell was involved with Oswald in an assassination plot. 

_____________________________

I believe that this datebook fills in many gaps about what really happened on November 22, 1963, and in the months leading up to it. This will be particularly evident to students of the assassination. 

[INDENT - BULLETED LIST[HC1] ] 

(Dick continues)

·        There was a high-level conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy involving meetings in and officials from Washington, D.C., as well as in other parts of the U.S., Mexico City, and Madrid.

·       That Lee Harvey Oswald was just as he claimed after his arrest – a patsy set up to take the fall (“October 25: Oswald set in place,” meaning that he was set in place in Texas School Book Depository building.November 9: “On the wings of murder. The Pigeon way for unsuspecting Lee.”) 

·       That Oswald’s rifle was apparently planted ahead of time: (“November 20: rifle into building – yes/ok/DPD”) DPD stands for Dallas Police Department. 

·       That the shooting of police officer J. D. Tippitt after the assassination was apparently not part of anyone’s plan: November 22: “O Tippett [sic] (why?) – ask JA who is Tippet?”

·       That Jack Ruby did not metamorphose out of nowhere to kill Oswald. The name “Ruby” appears in June 7 and October 30 entries. 

·       That a cover-up was in place prior to the assassination that included a legal team (Robert Storey and Judge Duvall) as well as a translator for Marina Oswald. 

·       That a Dallas airport previously speculated as a rendezvous point for escaping assassins was listed in the datebook on November 24. “Red [Bird] Airport.”

·       That the plan involving Oswald was in place for some time. On September 16: “T. says L.O. is ‘idiot’ but w[ill] be used regardless. Set-up Complete.” On October 5, JFK’s visit to Dallas was announced in the press. The next day, the datebook says: “Oswald – issue (!). Check with Caretaker.” On October 16, Oswald went to work at the Book Depository. 

·       There are references to Oswald traveling to Mexico City in late September. Some have questioned whether he actually went there. The datebook indicates that he assuredly did, but also that Tommy Davis was there simultaneously.

·       Prior to this, apparently Oswald was being shadowed in New Orleans. “May 10: T. says tail LO – No direct contact.” Oswald had moved to New Orleans on April 24.

·       The name of WALKER appears more than once, initially concerning the shooting attempt on his life that Oswald was later accused of. “April 7 – Walker – Lee and pictures. Planned soon – can he do it? Won’t.” (it’s possible that the word is Wait.) The indication is, someone was setting up Oswald to do this, but he didn’t want to. The shot was fired at Walker on April 10. Later references indicate that General Walker was in fact aware of, if not in on, the plot to kill JFK: 

• Other extreme right-wingers are notated at different times: Mitch WerBell, a known arms dealer; Otto Skorzeny, ex-Hitler operative living in Madrid; Willoughby compatriot Pedro del Valle.
• Two mentions of SHAW, in connection with New Orleans, most likely Clay Shaw, named by Jim Garrison as a co-conspirator in 1967. 

On 7/1/2023 at 10:14 AM, Steve Thomas said:

Allen,

According to the supporting Memorandum filed by Bernard Fensterwald in the lawsuit brought by Gary Shaw in 1981,

https://archive.org/stream/nsia-SouetreJean/nsia-SouetreJean/Souetre%20Jean%20063_djvu.txt

 

“In addition to his native French, Souetre speaks almost perfect English, 
Spanish, and German”. 

Steve Thomas

@Allen Lowe Allen, can I ask why you ask?

On 7/5/2023 at 10:54 PM, Matt Allison said:

Some info on that here:

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2023/157-10005-10228.pdf

Thanks, Matt.

FWIW, No one was more interested in Pash than Albarelli.

The challenge was to distinguish the ongoing operations around the world — including Pash's, Hunt's, Harvey's, Angleton's, et al which obviously involved overlapping agencies and individuals — from the plot to kill JFK. We argued, and I continue to, it's  time 'the community' writ large stops obsessing on the patsy and Cuba and focuses solely on the mechanics and the middle guys which lead to who authorized and financed Dealey and guaranteed the cover-up. Soup to nuts.

Another candidate for cowboy, courtesy of an experienced interested party:

Lee Elmer Echols, The Sheriff of Yuma County Jan. 1961 - Dec. 1962.

https://www.yumacountysheriff.org/sheriff-echols.htm

Some on the forum may be familiar with the following fairly dated assertions related to Echols. I'm skeptical of anything with "Chauncey Holt" woven into the story, but so is the author.

10 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee discovers the Chief himself had already broken into Mary Meyer's garden art studio ahead of him just hours after Mary was gunned down on the river walk pathway in the middle of the day with no witnesses.

Both looking for Mary's red book dairy?

Now THERE'S a story worth pondering.

Agree Joe, but the questions aren't mutually exclusive.  Lafitte indicates he is privy to details in 1964 that can be interpreted as "clean up" to suggest his/the project was a soup to nuts operation.  All intended for the softcover edition or sequel to Coup in Dallas.

3 hours ago, Allen Lowe said:

here we go; the fake Twist Party:

from Arnaldo Fernandez:

"The info provided by Thomas was pure crap. The story of the twist party (Castro intelligence agent Sylvia Duran instructing Oswald to kill Kennedy in a party that included Garro herself and the notorious red-hair Cuban negro invented by Gilberto Alvarado) was told by Thomas´ friend, Mexican writer Elena Garro, and dismissed by the FBI due to flagrant lies and inconsistencies, like all the other allegations of red conspiracies in Mexico City made by Alvarado and also Pedro Gutierrez, Salvador Diaz-Verson, Vladimir Rodriguez Lahera, Antulio Ortiz Ramirez, Marty Underwood…
Shenon put Garro´s crap in his fact-free analysis on the Castro connection. See “Philip Shenon’s Crap Detector”, by Arnaldo M. Fernandez and Jim DiEugenio, at http://www.ctka.net/2015/Shenon%27s%20Crap%20Detector.html"

It is your prerogative to determine, subjectively, which investigator you place faith in.  I'm surprised you didn't weigh more carefully the extensive research included in Albarelli's A Secret Order; or did you, and the scales tipped to Fernandez and Shennon and di Eugenio all three of whom have their own unique detractors?

5 hours ago, Allen Lowe said:

there was a well-known actor who was supposedly at that party who was interviewed and denied it ever happened or that Oswald was anywhere near there, and the woman who supposedly sponsored it was known as a CIA-connected informant. No, I don't have chapter and verse, this was exposed years ago as a complete fraud. Really, no one takes it seriously any more, and at this point I cannot re-trace the de-bunking, but the twist party idea is just beyonf idiotic. As for LaFitte, I just don't believe it, and there is not a single credible researcher - Simpich, DiEugenio, Talbot, Morley, Scott - who takes it seriously. You can keep chasing it, but at the end you will be back where you started, with nothing. And I am sorry, it is too good to be true, which means it is a contrived confirmation of everything some people want to hear. It is no more real than Judith Baker.

@Allen Lowe

I can draw from Albarelli's ASO for his thorough investigation of the Thomas episode, chapter and verse, to counter your "well-known actor" who was supposedly at the party who was interviewed by someone, and the woman who was CIA-connected informant. Why would anyone take your challenge seriously with the "supposedlies" and the "someones", when Albarelli lays out chapter and verse the interviews by name, and  documents he relied on. His professional approach should supersede the drivel you've posted here.

As a matter of interest, why is the "twist party" such a thorn in your foot?  I'm attempting to understand what seems to be an undertow to your coming out publicly to follow this specific incident and attack Albarelli?

Are you arguing that Oswald was never in Mexico City? Or are you using the incident to discredit Hank's investigation in the whole, not dissimilar to Fred Litwin who uses the lack of sufficient footnotes (in his subjective opinion) to the Permindex section of Coup to discredit a 700+ page book?

I also wonder how comfortable Simpich, di Eugenio, Talbot, Morley, Scott are with you speaking on their behalf?  How very unprofessional of you. Pulling out that obnoxious stop suggests to me you're on a mission.

I have conferred personally with Simpich, Morley, and Scott and am well-aware of each position on the datebook. (Hank's history with di Eugenio on this very forum is sufficient explanation for me to  understand di E's ghosting of Coup. Talbot's disinterest has yet to be transparent but the moccasin telegraph in this community is flooded with professional jealousy.) They all three have indicated that obviously if the datebook is professionally authenticated they will be compelled to consider the content seriously.  

Jeff Morley has actually reviewed the physical instrument (datebook) and is familiar with the obstacles to authentication.   I'll refrain from filling you and others in on the complexities involved. Suffice to say, in late 2013, Hank shared the following with Jeff; in other words, Jeff has known about the Lafitte datebook for a decade.  Lafitte's August 1963 entries  dovetail directly with Morley's working  hypothesis which he rolled out again in the lead up to the December 2022 drop, that the remaining unreleased files will confirm that in August of 1963, Joannides initiated an operation directly involving Oswald (paraphrasing).

One can read between the lines for themselves, but it should be on public record that Albarelli picked up a lead, followed it, secured a datebook with entries that either corroborate Morley's hypothesis, or will be corroborated by Morley's successful resolution of the hypothesis; either way the datebook is authentic. Which came first is a matter for future deliberation but I suspect Hank tilled the soil, not the other way around.

Joannides & Lafitte in New Orleans, 1963

' . . . While writing my book on Olson’s murder, A TERRIBLE MISTAKE: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA’s Secret Cold War Experiments [Trine Day, 2009], of which Lafitte played an integral and deadly role, I could not avoid learning about a number of provocative connections between Monsieur Lafitte and Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Not the least of these connections was that Lafitte, using an assumed named, throughout the 1960s lived in New Orleans. Indeed, in an incident that caused a flap at CIA headquarters in December 1969, the FBI arrested Lafitte in New Orleans. Briefly detained, he was released after a number of discrete phone calls from Capitol Hill were made to FBI headquarters. At the time of his arrest, Lafitte worked as the head chef at the Plimsoll Club, then part of the International Trade Mart.  

Portions of Lafitte’s date books for his New Orleans years are revealing of his dealings with various CIA officials, including at least 3 apparent meetings with CIA Western Hemisphere Division employee, George Efythron Joannides. Interestingly, Lafitte’s second encounter with Joannides occurred the second week of August 1963, just days after Lee Harvey Oswald’s Friday, August 9 arrest for provoking a disturbance through leafleting for his Fair Play for Cuba Committee New Orleans chapter. Lafitte’s handwritten notations for Friday, August 16, 1963 read: “… at Antoines room— Martello, Joanides [sic] & Labadie. Quigly [sic] interview Oswald over street demonstration. Call Holdout.” Another notation, made 6 days later reads: “Talk Joanides Cuba—refers to K Organization in Mexico— similar setup now. [D]iscuss with King, ask George and Charles about Havana, Mexico trips…” 

NOTES: “Antoines room” is thought to be Antoine’s, a well-known New Orleans restaurant that hosted meetings and gatherings in a number of private rooms. There are several references to Antoine’s in the date books.  “Martello” appears to be a reference to New Orleans Police Department officer, Lt. Francis L. Martello; not to be confused with Francis “Monk”  Martello. Lt. Martello interviewed Oswald in the New Orleans lockup on August 10, 1963. “Quigly” is perhaps a misspelling of the name Quigley. FBI SA John L. Quigley also interviewed Oswald in New Orleans jail. “Labadie” is a known alias, as in Jean Labadie, that Lafitte used often in New York City, but it is also the surname of Stephen J. Labadie, a special agent for the FBI. “Holdout” is unknown; perhaps it is a code-name for a program or confidential informer. “King” is most likely J.C. King, CIA Western Hemisphere director, but could possibly be William Harvey, as some CIA associated people occasionally and mockingly referred to Harvey as “King.” “George and Charlie” are believed to be FBN officials.'

Copyright © 2013—H.P. Albarelli Jr. 

11 hours ago, Bob Ness said:

Click on your link. Right click on the image and select "Open Image in New Window" or whatever it says in your browser. Look at the top of the browser and the image will be listed on the tab, the address bar or you could "Save As" and see the name there. Trust me it says "Angelton-Malam-1-2000x1125.jpg". I assume his last name is "Malam".

See Paul's post for definition of MALAM.

I believe the photo originated from Amit's collection and was turned over to the center.

Cowboy is from the US and is genuinely familiar with if not a native of the Southwest. He likely drives the Straliner, and likely made a quite comfortable living.

2 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Fwiw, if you Google Meir Amit and look at images this cowboy photo shows up. He was the head of Mossad for many years. What was he doing dressed up in a cowboy suit? Good question. They were probably in Texas. Whatever the circumstances of the photo, it is more likely in my opinion to be Amit. 

Amit's face is more chiseled. I believe from photos I've seen, he is shorter than cowboy.  Wasn't Angleton over 6'0"

Cowboy is entirely comfortable in the cowboy gear as if he's from the region. The jewelry appears to be his own and not costume. Why would Amit own SW jewelry.  Not every man can wear a cowboy hat comfortably. 

A new candidate: Lee Elmer Echols