Where are Bailey and Norwood's official INS Reports?

21 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

There is more in Coup on Howard Roman.  He was "a CIA official, former OSS officer, very close friend to Allen Dulles."  Who reportedly resigned in 1962 to work on Craft of Intelligence.  He was a Harvard graduate with a doctorate in German.  It doesn't say this in Coup, but he was born in 1916, I.E, he likely would have been working on the doctorate at age 25 at the start of WWII in 1941.  A useful young man to Dulles in Switzerland.

Coup does go on to say, "Morley and others have noted . . . as Dulles research assistant on the book, "was with Dulles at the moment" on November 22.1963, "when Dulles heard of JFK's assassination."  I need to check the end notes on this.  I thought COI was out by then, didn't Dulles promote it in Dallas at the end of October?

I looked around on line for info on Howard, not much.  This is interesting.  Note a 1965 reunion in Switzerland with Howard, Dulles, Lemnitzer and others.

Howard Roman - Ghostwriter for Allen Dulles (google.com)

Along with this.  He was a collaborator on the writing of A Clockwork Orange??? See the last paragraph in each of these articles, while they are interesting in themselves.

CIA mind-control trials revealed as secret inspiration behind 'A Clockwork Orange' | The Independent | The Independent

 Anthony Burgess and the Top Secret Code in ‘A Clockwork Orange’ | Dangerous Minds 

@Ron Bulman I had forgotten Howard Roman worked on "A Clockwork Orange"...

High strangeness and synchronicity, Anthony Frewin was Kubrick's assistant for decades.  Under a pseudonym, he published an analysis of Clay Shaw's address book specific to those in British aristocracy, the arts, his lovers, etc. When I happened to mention the Shaw analysis, Hank said, "I know that guy well. Great guy!"

Frewin closes his monograph with a challenge (paraphrasing): this is about as far as I can go on the project. I challenge other researchers to pick up the slack.  I took him seriously and tracked Shaw's connections — in particular those in Ireland which included his lover Sir Peter Montgomery, a lover of Burgess.  Then I met Hank, he was working with Ganis, who has information about Skorzeny's time in Ireland (Lafitte references the Amb. to Ireland, Grant Stockdale), and the rest is history. I'll dust off my Shaw diary research and post it soon.

The Kubrick Series Uncut: Tony Frewin on Apple Podcasts

10 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Ron,

Dates of early release:

Lajos Marton was released from the Saint Martin de Re prison on March 22, 1968. Also released from Re on that same day were:

https://deltas-collines.org/galerie/QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Pierre Magade (involved in the attack on de Gaulle at Petit-Clamart)

Raymond Mura (who escaped from the St. Maurice l'Ardoise prison camp with Jean-Rene Souetre in February of 1962)

Gerard Baudry

Armand Belvisi

Dominique Cabannes de Laprade (released from Sante)

Andre Canal ("The Monocle" - Head of Mission III of the OAS)

etc,. etc., etc,...

The list goes on.

There was no "deal".

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

@Ron Bulman, (apologies for the triangulation, but Steve apparently is unwilling to communicate with me directly)  I would ask Steve how the release of others in 1968 is evidence that Lajos Marton wasn't cut a deal (by certain sympathetic officials in a position to do so) on November 20, 1963? 

If Mr. Marton is cognizant enough to be interviewed on the 60th anniversary of Petit Clamart and continues to espouse loyalty to the ideological "forces" that drove him to participate, why hasn't he issued a public statement in response to the continued claims that he traveled to MC?

I should note, obviously if Mr. Marton contacts me personally, and provides concrete evidence other than his own "word for it" of his whereabouts, we will publish an apology.

Similarly, if anyone in the Souetre family is in a position to provide substantiated evidence of his whereabouts on November 22 — following close scrutiny of said evidence, we would respond accordingly.

7 hours ago, Allen Lowe said:

two things -

1) I have never trusted Albarelli since, in A Secret Order, he expressed a belief in the ridiculous "twist" party that LHO was supposed to have attended. This is one of the dumbest theories of LHO's pre-assassination actions. It didn't happen.

2) This may seem strange to ask, but I think is completely logical: Did Souetre/Mertz or whoever else was supposedly involved from the French side speak English? Has anyone ever confirmed that he/they/it did?

I continue to be wary of supposed recountings of events like LaFitte's diary because they are just too perfectly designed to fit into the plot - they too perfectly satisfy our desires, so many years after the fact, to sum everything up into neat and tidy organizational explanations and to thus confirm our theories.

@Allen Lowe, rejecting a real time private record of the plot as it unfolded because it's "too good to be true" seems somewhat illogical. Arguing, in court, that the government — the prime suspect for many in the assassination research community — is withholding the smoking gun, and waiting for its release is not only equally illogical, it's patently absurd.

Lafitte made no effort to profit from the "too good to be true" datebook, nor did he pursue Hank or any other investigative journalist to advance a fraud, or a collector like Major Ganis to hawk his hoax.  Albarelli literally stumbled on to the Lafitte records, employing old-fashioned (he would cringe!) gumshoe detective skills. 

As he explains in ASO, Albarelli interviewed June Cobb for literally dozens and dozens of hours over a period of several years; he also tracked her claims by interviewing those she reported to and confirmed that her version of events in MC as she knew them was accurate and stood the test of time.  

Who have you interviewed to debunk the "twist" party, or who have you relied on for said debunking? Does Hank's journalistic reputation rest on that one event in A Secret Order which, as all who have studied it know, includes a copious amount of detail that stands the test of time?  

Fred Litwin read nine pages of Coup in Dallas and tossed it aside because we dealt critically with Permindex. Are you similarly concerned that the twist party confirmed Oswald in MC? If you read Coup, you will know that Lafitte kept a record of that period of Oswald's life related to the plot for Dallas, including his presence in MC on the alleged dates.

On 6/30/2023 at 8:00 AM, Joseph Backes said:

Benjamin,

The title, "Withheld," was created in 1993 when the 1992 JFK Act mandated the creation of an identification aid which became the RIF numbering system and form.   Since the name "Ramon Joseph Alvarez Durant" was being redacted they went with "Withheld" as a title.  It is not the case that the title is still being withheld from us.  This is also the case for a great many other documents.  

This is a CIA document.  Unfortunately, these NARA post 2017 releases often do not include the RIF in what gets scanned in the .pdf they release.  A RIF usually gives us the date the doc was created. But, we don't know when this was written.

The issue of whether LHO actually visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies / consulates was questioned almost immediately once it was put forth.  It was an issue right away.  And the issue and questions only grew with time.  As John Newman commented in the 1990's when he gave presentations on this it really doesn't matter if Oswald did, if he was impersonated in person, or only impersonated on the phone, or any combination of that.  We can prove they lied and we have a law on our side.  It's not up to us to guess with the evidence withheld.  They have to explain.  For the record, he was clearly impersonated in person.  Silvia Duran described Oswald as having "Blonde hair."  And Oswald and Duran were impersonated on the phone.  So, with that said the use of the word "allegedly" isn't that odd.

 

Didn't Jane Roman play a significant role in the distortion of certain Oswald MC records? Maybe I'm overlooking, but I'm not seeing her mentioned in this discussion.

On 6/30/2023 at 1:52 PM, Michael Crane said:

I personally believe that CIA operative Tosh Plumlee tried to let us in on a little secret by posting this Nash Rambler & mentioning the blue Mexico turist sticker.

This car IMO is the car that drove a Lee Harvey Oswald impersonator to Mexico City.

*And possibly the Nash Rambler that drove Oswald away from the TSBD (unlikely,but still)

@Mark Knight Have you conferred with Richard Bartholomew over the years? I believe he and Jay Harrison played a significant role in early preservation of this vehicle. 

22 minutes ago, Roger Odisio said:

Leslie,

 

As you may know Greg Parker reads EF but is unable to respond here. I do not speak for him. But let me add a few things about Prayerman in case you may not know about some of them.

 

A few years ago (I think it was 2017), Greg contacted NBC Universal (now owned by Comcast).  He explained the importance of the Darnell and Wiegman films to the understanding of the JFKA. They apparently have the originals.  He asked for access to them.  They refused.

  

Since these films are clearly JFKA records, Greg asked NARA to add them to their JFKA Record Collection. They told him they didn't have the authority to do that.

 

Last September I emailed NARA and asked them if they took recommendations of records to add to their Collection, since imo, the JFK Act required the Collection be kept up to date.  I was told yes, they do accept recommendations (the other guy lied) and I should email NARA's general counsel with my recommendations.  I did and asked that the two films be added, explaining why.  That was November 18.  I have gotten no response since.

 

In the meantime MFF filed their lawsuit against NARA and Biden asking that the JFK Act be fully implemented, including information that is clearly a JFK record but which NARA has ignored.  Bill and Larry used my emails to NARA as one example of NARA failing to act despite having the information "placed under their nose".

 

Much of the corroborating evidence establishing the Oswald was *not* on the 6th floor has been done, awaiting a definite claim as to where he *was* instead to finally destroy the WR fairytale. 

 

No, there is no peer reviewed report on the films by a qualified expert at the moment.  Nothing can done without the camera originals as I understand it. Bart Kamp at ROKC in particular has talked about the difficulty of the enhancement work even if the camera original is gotten.  No one is shrinking from that.  But the importance of trying to identify that figure on the steps is clear.

 

One reason strikes to the heart of your point about the importance off finding out who did it, rather than who didn't. Imo, if it can be established Oswald didn't do it, the public would be much more interested than they are now--maybe even eager to find out--who did murder JFK and why.

 

@Roger Odisio thanks very much Roger.  And I'm familiar with some of this history, including your invaluable efforts to secure the film footage. I've recently engaged with Greg in a separate venue. Apparently he is unhappy with this thread on Ed Forum.

I still argue that 60 years is long enough to focus the battle on "Oswald" — that he DIDN'T do it. By definition, he remains the perfect patsy, taking our eye off the ball of who actually killed our president.

Oglesby and Brussell were on the path to uncovering who did - as we now know with the advantage of Lafitte's record which corroborates and advances their hypothesis. 

I would once again point out the parallels to impediments to authentication of the Lafitte datebook and ask why those impediments aren't equally respected by some in "the community" as is your frustration that you still don't have access to the Wiegman and Darnell films?

 

Sixty years —  hundreds of thousands of pages, thousands of feet of film footage,  tens of thousands of photos, and millions of hours of debate — all related to who didn't assassinate President Kennedy — is long enough.

I'm open to challenge, but I think most agree that by definition, the patsy was phenomenally effective.

The question: could he have been successful if filmed standing outside the building?

9 hours ago, Jeremy Bojczuk said:

Leslie Sharp writes:

I'm not sure what Greg Parker's recent remarks are, and I'd be surprised if he made them here, what with not having been a member for years.

More importantly, I'm not sure what the "Problem with 'Prayer Man'" is. The Prayer Man question isn't just about "a blurry photo". The argument is that:

• certain frames of the Darnell and Wiegman films show someone standing on the TSBD steps immediately after the shots were fired;
• although there is not enough detail in the publicly available copies to allow the person on the steps to be identified with certainty, the person's physical appearance and clothing are consistent with those of Oswald;
• all the other people standing on or very near the steps can be identified in these films, to varying degrees of certainty, as TSBD employees;
• all the TSBD employees who claimed to have been standing on the steps can be identified, to varying degrees of certainty, and none of them is the Prayer Man figure;
• none of the TSBD employees on the steps mentioned that any outsiders were present there;
• it is unlikely that a random member of the public would have decided to push past a group of TSBD employees when better viewpoints would have been available along the side of the road;
• there is no strong evidence placing Oswald anywhere else at the time of the shooting;
• Oswald was on the first floor of the building, in the domino room, around five minutes earlier, when he saw Harold Norman and James Jarman enter the rear of the building;
• Oswald claimed in an interview that he had eaten his lunch on the first floor and then "went outside to watch the p. parade", in the words of James Hosty in a note that only came to light in 2019 (see http://www.prayer-man.com/the-james-hosty-notes/);
• Oswald's alibi was misrepresented in the official accounts of his interviews, and in the Warren Report.

Against this, there is the fact that none of the other TSBD employees on the steps mentioned seeing Oswald there, and that some of them denied having seen him at all that day.

Overall, there is good reason to suspect that the unidentified person on the steps is Oswald, although the current state of the evidence doesn't allow the question to be resolved with certainty.

It's important to note that the potential consequences of Oswald's confirmed presence on the steps are so great that the question really needs to be resolved, if possible.

The problem is that a "peer reviewed report" cannot be made because the copies of the Darnell and Wiegman films that are in public circulation are insufficiently clear, being several generations removed from the originals.

Apparently the originals, or at least early copies, do exist. See Bart Kamp's account: http://www.prayer-man.com/the-search-for-the-wiegman-darnell-films/. It's possible that they may allow us to confirm or deny Oswald's presence on the steps at the time of the shooting. These films really ought to be treated as official JFK assassination records.

@Jeremy Bojczuk

Thanks for your concise (and respectful) response that argues Oswald could not have been in the sniper's nest. Although I take issue with some of the bullet points you include,  I'm not here to debate the question of who didn't kill the president, a.k.a. Oswald other than his role as the perfect "patsy".

You explain, persuasively, The problem is that a "peer reviewed report" cannot be made because the copies of the Darnell and Wiegman films that are in public circulation are insufficiently clear, being several generations removed from the originals, which prompts the question: why, when I have repeatedly laid out the complications of securing a final report on authenticity of the Lafitte datebook, are we met with semi-derision from many Kennedy assassination researchers — most recently Greg Parker himself?

The "problem" with Prayer Man remains, how can he be an effective patsy if he's filmed standing outside the building at the time of the shots?

2 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

What I object to is your use of the word "certain" as it pertains to Oswald being involved in "Otto Skorzeny's strategy to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas." I am entirely unconvinced there is any legitimate evidence to support such a claim.

@Jonathan Cohen I'm going to assume you've followed the controversy over Albarelli's last investigation which landed him access to a private collection including a 1963 datebook maintained by Pierre Lafitte, a known contract agent for FBN, FBI, occasionally, and CIA at the behest of his friend CI James Angleton. Lafitte makes clear that Oswald is being set up as the designated patsy.  He also maintains a record in real time of his communication with Otto Skorzeny who is instructing him on the details of the plan for Dealey.

It's your prerogative to reject Hank's research, but I would challenge you to prove Otto WASN'T the strategist, that Oswald WASN'T the patsy, by providing evidence to support your theory of what happened on November 22.  

40 minutes ago, Bill Brown said:

 

"Now that we're certain Oswald's role in Otto Skorzeny's strategy to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas was that of the designated patsy just as he insisted..."

 

"I'M JUST A PATSY"

You have to look at the patsy statement in it's entirety.

"They have taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy." -- Lee Oswald

Oswald is clearly claiming that the Dallas Police Department is picking on him because he once tried to defect to Russia. He is not saying anything about mythical conspirators who are attempting to frame him for the assassination.

 

@Bill Brown If we didn't have written references in advance of Oswald's role in Dealey, I might consider your subjective interpretation of what he meant.

I should add, we make no claim that Oswald was fully aware he was being set up. There are notations to suggest he's upset, and that he required a 'caretaker', but nothing to indicate he signed up for the gig.  So with that in mind, your interpretation is interesting as it could reflect his slow recognition of just how he ended up in handcuffs, and the Soviet Union was the most logical explanation until he had time to process the rest. Tragically time ran out.

22 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

"Now that we're certain" ? You're joking, right?

@Jonathan Cohen I'm not familiar with your stance on what happened in Dealey.  Do you argue that Oswald fired at Kennedy?

20 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

If Hank trusted his researcher's evaluation of Kross source(s) that's a plus.  Hank is respected by a lot of people from what I've read.  I'd just like to know who the source for the information is.  

Is one noted in JFK: The French Connection?  Did Hank's researcher ask Kross about this?  He's written several related books, all with few reviews, many of those shallow.  Has anyone out there heard of him before or reviewed his work?

Was the SAC source ever named?  Other quotes in Coup of Kross seem legit.  The quote on pages 2-3 about Darlan seem to be pretty straightforward history.  He does quote the CIA website on the OSS in it.  

Then the part on page 296 about Wild Bill Donovan on the way back from a clandestine trip to England in 1940 in a Flying Boat is documented in the end notes.  "The Flying Boats of Foynes", History Ireland.

What the heck is a flying boat?  Not a seaplane.

The English version Wild Bill flew on was a little more sleek.

 

@Ron Bulman Ron, great questions.

When asked, Kross responded, "I stand by what's in the book." As with many investigative reporters, he explained that his research for the book had long been stored away, and he made no generous offer to go in search of the name(s) of his sources. Had his reporting not dovetailed directly with details revealed by Lafitte, I venture Hank would not have cited him until the name(s) were nailed down.*

Loosely defined, Flying Boats were trans-Atlantic craft designed to land near what is now Shannon Airport, bogland and estuaries.  On a related note, based on details found in Skorzeny's papers, we suspect Skorzeny was in on the design of the first Shannon runway.  I'm especially interested because my in-laws were best friends with the Irish contractor in charge of the project, McInerny construction; from there, I have reason to suspect Otto and Ilse frequented their hotel in Killarney, Co. Kerry during their period ensconced in Martinstown House.

*Ron, I may be dreaming, but did @Steve Thomas mention the name of the SAC guy recently?

A response to Greg Parker's recent remarks regarding Albarelli's last investigation, "Coup in Dallas."


Greg,

6 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:

Huh, interesting. If they had been secretly let out of prison and then returned after they had done their dirty work, they would have had a seemingly ironclad alibi.

A solid hypothesis, @Michael Griffith.

Marton was initially given a death sentence which was then commuted to twenty years of which he served only five. In  light of what is revealed in the following article published on the 60th anniversary of Petit Clamart, I wonder if those who vigorously defend Marton will be objective enough to contemplate the possibility a deal was made, or will they continue to rely on Marton's presumably uncorroborated word, similar to Jean Souetre?
 

Hungarian Involved in the De Gaulle Assassination Plot Speaks Out

. . . Marton has served five years in prison for his involvement in the attempt but has not changed his opinion ever since.

. . . “Of those who fired the shots, Gyula Sári and I are the only two still alive. We have passed the age of ninety, but we will continue in the direction we have taken for the rest of our lives,” said the 91-year-old man, who still lives near Paris.

. . . The 91-year-old also believes that the world is in the grip of American “superpowerism.”

. . . At Petit-Clamart, near Paris, Charles De Gaulle was driven in his convoy to a military airfield when shots rang out, including those fired from Lajos Marton’s American-made Thompson submachine gun . . .

. . . Marton later spent a year in hiding with the false papers they gave him.

Of particular interest is the closing paragraph.

. . . The Hungarian involvement in the French plot can be best explained by the fact that many of them had accused the West, and the United States in particular, of a complete betrayal of the Hungarian anti-Communist revolution in 1956. Their anti-Communist stance, but to an extent also their naivety, had led them to be recruited to this plot by the French secret service.

Doesn't this imply that not only did Marton et al consider de Gaulle a traitor to the Hungarian anti-Communist revolution, but the leader of "the West", President John Kennedy as well?  

Hungary Today refers to the "French secret service" as being responsible for the Petit Clamart plot; are those Marton's own words?

https://hungarytoday.hu/hungarian-involved-in-de-gaulle-assassination-plot-speaks-out/

@Ron Bulman asked recently to confirm that author Peter Kross, "JFK: The French Connection" is cited in Albarelli's "Coup in Dallas." The answer is yes; and one of Hank's researchers was in direct communication with PK prior to publication.

A number of seasoned researchers have long discounted the SAC source who Kross relies on to argue that Souetre was in the US in 1963. However, other than ad hominem attacks on the SAC in general, I've yet to read anything in the form of actual proof to impugn his specific claims.  

And, as argued previously, to insist Hungarian Lajos Marton and Laszlo Varga were behind bars — in what is obviously a country club prison environment — is naive at best, particularly in the political climate of early '60s France with a former Vichy official and QJ/WIN spotter at the helm of INTERPOL ensconced in Paris.  

Now that we know SW INS Commissioner Harlon Carter was a long time friend of sharpshooter Boots Askins identified by Pierre Lafitte in the lead up to Dealey, we have another piece of the puzzle at the Mexican border.

Can anyone produce documents to confirm Souetre's own claims that he was in Spain on November 22? Is a suspect's "word" sufficient to discontinue the investigation? Has anyone read the affidavits of his alleged witnesses, one of whom was an OAS General?

Perhaps if HSCA had been less obsessed with Oswald and opted to also track down a known assassin or assassins alleged to have been in Dallas on November 22, we might have known more much sooner.  By definition, their approach confirms just how perfect Oswald was as the patsy.

Kross is also among the few, if not the first to identify Jane Roman in context of Jean Souetre. Why has his revelation been ignored for a decade?

During their interview with Jane Roman, in addition to the focus on Oswald in Mexico City, did the HSCA also interrogate her about Souetre? Had they availed of the independent research handed over generously by Gary Shaw and Bud Fensterwald and pursued their leads to Souetre et al, we might have known more much sooner.  

It is my understanding the Shaw/Fensterwald files are buried in a storage garage in the DC area as I write.

Further to Jane Roman and what she said, vs. what she was asked: did Jeff Morley inquire about Souetre, or just Oswald? Did the Warren Commission consider Roman's role in dissemination of the 1963 reports on Souetre — known to the CIA for his attempts on de Gaulle's life in an attack not entirely dissimilar to Dealey — and his appeal to "continue" receiving support from the agency" in the spring?  From there, they might have unearthed Roman's knowledge of Ilse Skorzeny in and out of the US since 1957, but I digress.

Jane Roman surfaced in the March 9, 1964 Souetre-related document which was initially partially redacted.  It's possible I've overlooked instances, but to my knowledge no one, including those on this forum who argue we should accept Souetre's own words as evidence he wasn't in Dallas, who has tracked the confusion surrounding Soutre/ Roux/ Mertz on behalf of the French intelligence has actually pursued the potential significance — until now.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83405#relPageId=1

18 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Leslie, if you happen to look in, I'm wondering what you think about a source.  Peter Kross.   Mentioned 4X I believe in Coup.  In relation to Varga, Marton, Souetre entering Mexico on 11/22 and  Soutetre at Plantation Key.  

He has multiple books with few reviews.  That doesn't mean anything in itself.

 Amazon.com: Peter Kross: books, biography, latest update

@Ron BulmanYes, Ron, we cite Kross. One of Hank's researchers was in direct communication with PK prior to publication.

A number of seasoned researchers have long discounted the SAC source who Kross relies on. However, other than ad hominem attacks on the SAC in general, I've yet to read anything in the form of actual proof to impugn his specific claims that Souetre was in the US in 1963.  

And, as argued previously, to insist Marton and Varga were behind bars — in what is obviously a country club prison environment — is naive at best, particularly in the political climate of early '60s France with a former Vichy official and QJ/WIN spotter at the helm of INTERPOL ensconced in Paris.  

Now that we know SW INS Commissioner Harlon Carter was a long time friend of sharpshooter Boots Askins identified by Pierre Lafitte in the lead up to Dealey, we have another piece of the puzzle at the Mexican border.

Can anyone produce documents to confirm Souetre's own claims that he was in Spain on November 22? Is a suspect's "word" sufficient to discontinue the investigation? Has anyone read the affidavits of his alleged witnesses, one of whom was an OAS General?

Perhaps if HSCA had been less obsessed with Oswald and opted to also track down a known assassin or assassins alleged to have been in Dallas on November 22, we might have known more much sooner.  By definition, their approach confirms just how perfect Oswald was as the patsy.

Kross is also among the few, if not the first to identify Jane Roman in context of Jean Souetre. Why has his revelation been ignored for a decade?

During their interview with Jane Roman, in addition to the focus on Oswald in Mexico City, did the HSCA also interrogate her about Souetre? Had they availed of the independent research handed over generously by Gary Shaw and Bud Fensterwald and pursued their leads to Souetre et al, we might have known more much sooner.  

It is my understanding the Shaw/Fensterwald files are buried in a storage garage in the DC area as I write.

Further to Jane Roman and what she said, vs. what she was asked: did Jeff Morley inquire about Souetre, or just Oswald? Did the Warren Commission consider Roman's role in dissemination of the 1963 reports on Souetre — known to the CIA for his attempts on de Gaulle's life in an attack not entirely dissimilar to Dealey — and his appeal to "continue" receiving support from the agency" in the spring?  From there, they might have unearthed Roman's knowledge of Ilse Skorzeny in and out of the US since 1957, but I digress.

Jane Roman surfaced in the March 9, 1964 document, and it's possible I've overlooked instances, but to my knowledge no one — including those on this forum arguing we should accept Souetre's own words as evidence he wasn't in Dallas —  who has tracked the confusion surrounding Soutre/ Roux/ Mertz on behalf of the French intelligence has actually pursued the potential significance.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83405#relPageId=1
 

29 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Thanks, Ron!

It was unconscionable that those responsible for publishing legible images didn't contact our editor before hitting "print".   

I'm having difficulty attaching more screenshots; the alert indicates some of the files are too large.  Bear with me.

Also, I hope when revisiting the dispute related to Souetre's whereabouts on November 22, members will keep in mind the broader implications that Col. Askins — who knew Otto Skorzeny personally in Madrid and who had served with Harlon B. Carter in the US Border Patrol before Carter became the Regional Commissioner of the INS in charge of Laredo, El Paso, Houston, Dallas etc. — appears in Lafitte's record within days of significant references to Souetre as well as Willoughby, Walker, Davis, Silverthorne and Otto & Ilse Skorzeny, Angleton, and William King Harvey.

Thursday, September 12, 1963
Askins?

4 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

Much clearer than in the book!  With a magnifying glass I can read most of this!  Thanks, glad to see you back as well.

Thanks, Ron!

It was unconscionable that those responsible for publishing legible images didn't contact our editor before hitting "print".   

I'm having difficulty attaching more screenshots; the alert indicates some of the files are too large.  Bear with me.

Also, I hope when revisiting the dispute related to Souetre's whereabouts on November 22, members will keep in mind the broader implications that Col. Askins — who knew Otto Skorzeny personally in Madrid and who had served with Harlon B. Carter in the US Border Patrol before Carter became the Regional Commissioner of the INS in charge of Laredo, El Paso, Houston, Dallas etc. — appears in Lafitte's record within days of significant references to Souetre as well as Willoughby, Walker, Davis, Silverthorne and Otto & Ilse Skorzeny, Angleton, and William King Harvey.

5 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

@Paul Brancato "Leslie pointed out with examples of how lax and corrupted the prisons were."

Continuity of the Coup @2023 (draft)

JEAN NEPOTE

For our interests, it is the shared history between Harlon B. Carter, SW Region Commissioner of the INS in 1963 and expert marksman Charles Askins who is named in the Lafitte datebook as having been directly involved in Lancelot Project, that demands attention.  It should be noted that Askins had served as military attaché in Madrid in 1952 and provided his superiors with details of Otto Skorzeny's alleged weapons trafficking. Skorzeny plays a dominant role in Lancelot Project, the plot to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas.

Both Col. Askins and Texas native Col. Jack Canon —  best known for having headed General Charles Willoughby's Z. Org during the Korean War — are identified by Lafitte as having direct involvement in the plans for Dallas.

. . . And speaking of General Charles Willoughby, The Maltese Cross also lists the associate editors for [Gen. Willoughby's] Foreign Intelligence Digest. They included Prince Michael Sturdy (Costa Rica), Dr. Emilo Nunez-Portuondo (Cuba), Marques de Prat de Nantoulliet (Spain), M. Saint Paulien (France), Dr. Walter Becher (Germany) Hilaire du Berrier (France) [du Berrier is named in the 1963 Lafitte datebook and was a guest in the home of Gen. Edwin Walker on November 22. Walker is named in the Lafitte datebook on April 7 & 30; June 12; Sept. 4; Oct. 9 & 25], Dr. Gerald Shelly (Italy), Dr. E. Gehlen (Germany), Freiherr von Braun (Germany), George Bard (Czechoslovakia), Leo M. Petit (Belgium), Admiral E. Heifferich (Holland), Dr. Lazarus Choumanides (Greece), Dr. Sten Forshufvud (Sweden), Vicomte Amaury d'Harcourt (France), Com. Div. Jean Népote (France), Abbe Pierre Delecambre (France) and many others . . . Various associated national and international publications also appear on the Maltese Cross list. They include ABN Correspondence (Munich, editor Jaroslav Stetzko), . . . The Christian Crusade (Tulsa, editor E. L. White), . . . The Weekly Crusader (Tulsa, Rev. Billy James Hargis whose 1963 cross-country crusade featured Gen. Edwin Walker, . . . Interpol Review (Paris, editor Jean Népote). . . '
— from, The Spy Who Would Be Tsar: The Mystery of Michal Goleniewski and the Far-Right Underground by Kevin Coogan.

For our purposes, of special interest within this milieu is Jean Népote — named here as contributor to Gen. Charles Willoughby's Foreign Intelligence Digest — who has been identified as a National Socialist collaborator with the Vichy regime. Népote rose through the ranks of INTERPOL which had been infiltrated by leading "former" N-azis to assume the post of Secretary General in August 1963.  

At the risk of referring to historian Gerald Posner with this audience, he reports accurately,

“In 1939 Reinhard Heydrich, chief of the Gestapo, was voted president of Interpol. In December 1941, Interpol moved its headquarters to the fashionable Berlin suburb of Wannsee, where it shared a villa with the Gestapo.”

It was in this villa where the infamous Wannsee Conference was held and where the Final Solution was organized.

. . . Heydrich even made Interpol a division within the SD, the Security Police. When Heydrich was assassinated in Prague in June 1942, Himmler chose Heydrich’s successor at the Gestapo, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, to replace him as Interpol’s president. After Kaltenbrunner was hanged at Nuremberg in October 1946, a Belgian member of Interpol’s executive committee, Florent E. Louwage, became president. He was succeeded in 1956 by Jean Népote, who had collaborated with the wartime Vichy government in France.

 

In the following government document, item 9, we see Jean Népote as the source for a training film described as providing "excellent detail on planning and execution of safecracking." The significance of the document is that it relates to other characters identified as having been in the spotter program / the QJ/WIN operation. Considering his history, his access, and the power of his role at INTERPOL, we argue that this single record strongly suggests Jean Népote was in fact among the QJ/WIN spotters. (hat tip to the leading star of the next generation of document bloodhounds, Robert Montenegro, for catching this!)

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10185-10010.pdf 

As head of INTERPOL since August of 1963, responsible for cross-border policing on a global scale (including international drug trafficking), Népote was also in a position to lift travel restrictions at any given time. It is also plausible he exercised significant control over the status of (useful and perhaps familiar to him personally) convicted criminals who fell under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Justice in France where INTERPOL was headquartered.

We also know that Népote's fellow N-azi collaborator during the Vichy regime, Maurice Papon had led the police in major French prefectures for decades and had also dealt closely with Corsicans.  (As secretary general for police in Bordeaux during the war, he participated in the deportation of more than 1,600 Jews, a crime against humanity he was charged with eventually). Papon's activity during the Algerian War from 1954-1962 included torture of insurgent prisoners. As prefect of the Paris police, he was responsible for the deadly repression of the FLN, overseeing the "Paris massacres" of both 1961 and 1962 in response to anti-OAS demonstrations. . . 

Although there is no evidence that either Jean Népote or Maurice Papon knew OAS Captain Jean Rene Souetre, or experienced assassins Alice Lamy, Gerard Litt or Jean Filliol [all identified in the Lafitte datebook, 1963], or Hungarians [loosely referred to in the Lafitte datebook, 1963], or Lajos Marton or Laszlo Varga who were members of Souetre's deadly 'Will Kill' — it can be reasonably argued that both Népote and Papon, not unlike counterparts in Mexico and the US including INS Harlon B. Carter who had served with Charles "Boots" Askins named in the Lafitte datebook, 1963, were in prime positions to order, conceal, and/or confuse details of the movement of known assassins.

 

Thanks @Matt Allison!

My next few comments (8 in total) will link to screenshots of entries from the 1963 datebook maintained by Pierre Lafitte naming [Col. Charles "Boots"] Askins and [Jean Rene Marie] Souetre in the lead up to the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas.  

Thursday, April 30, 1963

Walker + Souetre in

New Orleans / arms

(Davis?) — where?

Cable to O.

On 6/22/2023 at 6:34 AM, Paul Brancato said:

As Steve points out the Hungarians were in prison, though it looks a bit like a country club from the pics he posted. Leslie pointed out with examples how lax and corrupted the prisons were. But let’s assume that the source of these stories had it wrong. This still doesn’t account for Souetre. A researcher friend of mine has been doing a lot of fact checking on the info in the Lafitte diaries. He thinks that they might indeed be real. Further attempts at handwriting analysis have yielded inconclusive results. It’s a gray area for sure. Albarelli had a lot of integrity and an earnest desire to solve the case. Still, he may have been deceived. I’m using all these qualifiers because there is simply no other way to view this. I think you are right to focus in on Harvey. But I wouldn’t go so far as to therefore assume that if he put together the plan for Nov 22 he would have used Cubans as shooters. His notes on QJWIN make clear his intent to use untraceable assassins. The QJWIN program is best looked at as a spotter operation, a supplier of dangerous assets for wet jobs. I’m hoping to have more to post on this issue of connections between the CIA’s JMWAVE and Madrid.

@Paul Brancato "Leslie pointed out with examples of how lax and corrupted the prisons were."

Continuity of the Coup @2023 (draft)

JEAN NEPOTE

For our interests, it is the shared history between Harlon B. Carter, SW Region Commissioner of the INS in 1963 and expert marksman Charles Askins who is named in the Lafitte datebook as having been directly involved in Lancelot Project, that demands attention.  It should be noted that Askins had served as military attaché in Madrid in 1952 and provided his superiors with details of Otto Skorzeny's alleged weapons trafficking. Skorzeny plays a dominant role in Lancelot Project, the plot to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas.

Both Col. Askins and Texas native Col. Jack Canon —  best known for having headed General Charles Willoughby's Z. Org during the Korean War — are identified by Lafitte as having direct involvement in the plans for Dallas.

. . . And speaking of General Charles Willoughby, The Maltese Cross also lists the associate editors for [Gen. Willoughby's] Foreign Intelligence Digest. They included Prince Michael Sturdy (Costa Rica), Dr. Emilo Nunez-Portuondo (Cuba), Marques de Prat de Nantoulliet (Spain), M. Saint Paulien (France), Dr. Walter Becher (Germany) Hilaire du Berrier (France) [du Berrier is named in the 1963 Lafitte datebook and was a guest in the home of Gen. Edwin Walker on November 22. Walker is named in the Lafitte datebook on April 7 & 30; June 12; Sept. 4; Oct. 9 & 25], Dr. Gerald Shelly (Italy), Dr. E. Gehlen (Germany), Freiherr von Braun (Germany), George Bard (Czechoslovakia), Leo M. Petit (Belgium), Admiral E. Heifferich (Holland), Dr. Lazarus Choumanides (Greece), Dr. Sten Forshufvud (Sweden), Vicomte Amaury d'Harcourt (France), Com. Div. Jean Népote (France), Abbe Pierre Delecambre (France) and many others . . . Various associated national and international publications also appear on the Maltese Cross list. They include ABN Correspondence (Munich, editor Jaroslav Stetzko), . . . The Christian Crusade (Tulsa, editor E. L. White), . . . The Weekly Crusader (Tulsa, Rev. Billy James Hargis whose 1963 cross-country crusade featured Gen. Edwin Walker, . . . Interpol Review (Paris, editor Jean Népote). . . '
— from, The Spy Who Would Be Tsar: The Mystery of Michal Goleniewski and the Far-Right Underground by Kevin Coogan.

For our purposes, of special interest within this milieu is Jean Népote — named here as contributor to Gen. Charles Willoughby's Foreign Intelligence Digest — who has been identified as a National Socialist collaborator with the Vichy regime. Népote rose through the ranks of INTERPOL which had been infiltrated by leading "former" N-azis to assume the post of Secretary General in August 1963.  

At the risk of referring to historian Gerald Posner with this audience, he reports accurately,

“In 1939 Reinhard Heydrich, chief of the Gestapo, was voted president of Interpol. In December 1941, Interpol moved its headquarters to the fashionable Berlin suburb of Wannsee, where it shared a villa with the Gestapo.”

It was in this villa where the infamous Wannsee Conference was held and where the Final Solution was organized.

. . . Heydrich even made Interpol a division within the SD, the Security Police. When Heydrich was assassinated in Prague in June 1942, Himmler chose Heydrich’s successor at the Gestapo, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, to replace him as Interpol’s president. After Kaltenbrunner was hanged at Nuremberg in October 1946, a Belgian member of Interpol’s executive committee, Florent E. Louwage, became president. He was succeeded in 1956 by Jean Népote, who had collaborated with the wartime Vichy government in France.

In the following government document, item 9, we see Jean Népote as the source for a training film described as providing "excellent detail on planning and execution of safecracking." The significance of the document is that it relates to other characters identified as having been in the spotter program / the QJ/WIN operation. Considering his history, his access, and the power of his role at INTERPOL, we argue that this single record strongly suggests Jean Népote was in fact among the QJ/WIN spotters. (hat tip to the leading star of the next generation of document bloodhounds, Robert Ward Montenegro, for catching this!)

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10185-10010.pdf 

As head of INTERPOL since August of 1963, responsible for cross-border policing on a global scale (including international drug trafficking), Népote was also in a position to lift travel restrictions at any given time. It is also plausible he exercised significant control over the status of (useful and perhaps familiar to him personally) convicted criminals who fell under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Justice in France where INTERPOL was headquartered.

We also know that Népote's fellow N-azi collaborator during the Vichy regime, Maurice Papon had led the police in major French prefectures for decades and had also dealt closely with Corsicans.  (As secretary general for police in Bordeaux during the war, he participated in the deportation of more than 1,600 Jews, a crime against humanity he was charged with eventually). Papon's activity during the Algerian War from 1954-1962 included torture of insurgent prisoners. As prefect of the Paris police, he was responsible for the deadly repression of the FLN, overseeing the "Paris massacres" of both 1961 and 1962 in response to anti-OAS demonstrations. . . 

Although there is no evidence that either Jean Népote or Maurice Papon knew OAS Captain Jean Rene Souetre, or experienced assassins Alice Lamy, Gerard Litt or Jean Filliol [all identified in the Lafitte datebook, 1963], or Hungarians [loosely referred to in the Lafitte datebook, 1963], or Lajos Marton or Laszlo Varga who were members of Souetre's deadly 'Will Kill' — it can be reasonably argued that both Népote and Papon, not unlike counterparts in Mexico and the US including INS Harlon B. Carter who had served with Charles "Boots" Askins named in the Lafitte datebook, 1963, were in prime positions to order, conceal, and/or confuse details of the movement of known assassins.

On 6/22/2023 at 6:34 AM, Paul Brancato said:

As Steve points out the Hungarians were in prison, though it looks a bit like a country club from the pics he posted. Leslie pointed out with examples how lax and corrupted the prisons were. But let’s assume that the source of these stories had it wrong. This still doesn’t account for Souetre. A researcher friend of mine has been doing a lot of fact checking on the info in the Lafitte diaries. He thinks that they might indeed be real. Further attempts at handwriting analysis have yielded inconclusive results. It’s a gray area for sure. Albarelli had a lot of integrity and an earnest desire to solve the case. Still, he may have been deceived. I’m using all these qualifiers because there is simply no other way to view this. I think you are right to focus in on Harvey. But I wouldn’t go so far as to therefore assume that if he put together the plan for Nov 22 he would have used Cubans as shooters. His notes on QJWIN make clear his intent to use untraceable assassins. The QJWIN program is best looked at as a spotter operation, a supplier of dangerous assets for wet jobs. I’m hoping to have more to post on this issue of connections between the CIA’s JMWAVE and Madrid.

@Steve ThomasI hope you'll indulge what may appear to be a digression from the essence of your thread. Let me know if you would prefer I create separate one for the following response to @Paul Brancato

 'Further attempts at handwriting analysis have yielded inconclusive results. It’s a gray area for sure. Albarelli had a lot of integrity and an earnest desire to solve the case. Still, he may have been deceived.'

To be clear, the current handwriting analysis remains incomplete pending additional exemplars of handwriting of the author (or authors) of the 1963 Lafitte datebook. This might be construed as mere semantics, but the distinction is critical.  To date, we do not have a formal inconclusive report. 

I've been cautioned that if I insist on a final report without benefit of the additional exemplars, the report will be "inclusive", so I've opted to not go that route unless and until we exhaust our attempts to secure more handwriting samples whose provenance can be confirmed beyond doubt.  Unfortunately parties with access to at least some samples have yet to cooperate. We continue the effort.

And for any who might speculate Hank was deceived, those who knew him personally or followed his previous investigative work — especially the Frank Olson case — argue it is virtually inconceivable that Rene and other Lafitte family members could have pulled off a hoax using "gullible" Hank Albarelli. Further, the suggestion is illogical:  to what end might they have concocted such a scheme thirty-plus years after the fact? Or, how did they seduce Hank to the small New England village to knock on their door? Why haven't they asked for Royalties from his books?  Why have they ignored my offer to return the datebook? Couldn't they sell it, for instance to Harlan Crow?  (see attached screenshot of the inside front cover of Lafitte's datebook with Crow's now notorious stamp collection in mind.)

We also know the provenance of the datebook which is laid out in Hank's introduction to Coup. He confirmed, and I later secured a written statement from an executive of the company that they printed the blank datebook for 1962 Christmas gifts to favored chefs. The instrument was not printed post the assassination. Hank had witness testimony that Pierre maintained the datebook; we have Dick Russell's analysis of eight entries that he insists could not have been known prior to (at the earliest) mid-1970s; Hank had a preliminary verbal declaration that the ink conforms with that available in 1963 (with exception of several entries that could have been made in obscure locations and therefore would not be in his exclusive database).

Hank and I also discussed the likelihood that skeptics would pull out all stops when compelled to consider the exclusive detail found in the datebook because certain entries upend certain sacred cows, i.e. Jean Souetre was not in the U.S. in 1963.

However, neither of us anticipated the lack of fundamental curiosity of some seasoned authors and researchers — a basic, "maybe it's a hoax but what if  this datebook contains vital information?"  

Why have entries that coalesce with well-established circumstantial evidence, including certain new discoveries, been dismissed out of hand? For example, and relevant to Steve's thread,  SW Region Commissioner of INS in 1963, Harlon B. Carter was a close friend of fellow border patrolman and psychotic sharpshooter Charles B. Askins who appears in Lafitte's 1963 records, as does — and further relevant to this thread — Jean Souetre. 

I'll close with the admonition the document examiner offered several months ago: (paraphrasing) If the datebook is the subject of a civil or criminal lawsuit and he is called as an expert witness, the judge and jury can anticipate that his determination of authenticity or lack thereof will be challenged by opposition's expert witness(es). This is not an exact science, so provenance assumes an even greater weight in final deliberation.  We've established provenance of the Lafitte datebook.  He added that in general and based on decades of experience (again paraphrasing), the burden of proof that a document is fake rests with the skeptic.

This is who Tucker Carlson wants to "welcome back into the brotherhood of journalism."  

And Tucker Carlson has become the poster child for the JFK Records Act.

'Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property.

He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them, according to videos posted online.

In other clips, the British-American kickboxer – who poses with fast cars, guns and portrays himself as a cigar-smoking playboy – talks about hitting and choking women, trashing their belongings and stopping them from going out.

“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating. In another, he describes throwing a woman’s things out of the window. In a third, he calls an ex-girlfriend who accused him of hitting her – an allegation he denies – a “dumb hoe.' — Shanti Das, The Guardian

43 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Thanks for those links, pretty interesting, I saw Andrew Tate on Tucker a while ago and then on Piers Morgan he seems like a smart dude, I guess his father worked for the CIA. 

 

Andrew Tate on TikTok. Photograph: @tate_inspire/TikTok

Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property.

He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them, according to videos posted online.

In other clips, the British-American kickboxer – who poses with fast cars, guns and portrays himself as a cigar-smoking playboy – talks about hitting and choking women, trashing their belongings and stopping them from going out.

“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating. In another, he describes throwing a woman’s things out of the window. In a third, he calls an ex-girlfriend who accused him of hitting her – an allegation he denies – a “dumb hoe”.https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star

4 minutes ago, Chris Barnard said:

Dictionary definition of misogyny: 

noun

1. 1) hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women, manifested in various forms such as physical intimidation and abuse, sexual harassment and rape, social shunning and ostracism, etc.: the underlying misogyny in slut-shaming;Historically witch hunts were an embodiment of the misogyny of the time.
2. 2) ingrained and institutionalized prejudice against women; sexism.
    

   —————————————————-

    

   Definition 2: sexism

    

   Which was my linguistic choice.

    

   What’s your problem? 🙂 

One might ask "what's yours?"  You seem to have avoided Tate's avowed misogyny in your promo.