Leslie Sharp

Talk me through this photo again, Matthew? and Chris Barnard? What's that symbol formed by Roger Stone's fingers?

Married 36 yrs, my dear Matthew.

This is a commercial promo? but Tucker's video of the shaman being led in circles prior to his appearance in the Chamber seen in this video as glaring evidence of his participation in the disruption of the peaceful transfer of presidential power is not spam? You are not acting in good faith here, Matthew. Or perhaps better said, you are not here to act in good faith but to provoke and distract from "the inevitable results of the past [60] years".

You and the shaman have something (else?) in common apparently.

As long as you link to Posobiec, I'll consider you an adherent of his ideology. Sorry, that's how it works. If you're acting in good faith, Matthew, can you talk through what you see and hear on this video?

I haven’t seen anyone ‘far right’, ‘fascist’, ‘National Socialist’ or anything like it on the forum. Nobody even close. that they choose to look at the world in this tribal, myopic lens. It may be worth considering that these types are not driven by kindness, compassion or bettering humanity. Did you watch the video, Chris. Are you relegating it to the "alternate" version of Tucker Carlson's version of Jan 6 ? Do you not see and hear the shaman in this footage? And speaking of tribal, how bloody ironic that a "friend" of Roger Stone founded Proud Boys in 2016. The timing is purely coincidental, right? Your card has been marked, and I venture that you and yours will be revealed as provocateurs on this forum, eventually. Roger Stone, the Proud Boys , & Stone’s nework of miscreants— Part 2 (2017–2018) For years, Stone & his associates have courted & elevated violent extremists & re-branded them as “patriots.” Even before the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, Donald Trump’s longtime confidante, Roger Stone, had created a dangerous new template for American politics, combining information warfare with physical intimidation. The Proud Boys, an extremist group founded by one of Stone’s friends in September 2016, were a key element of this template. Five Proud Boys leaders have since been indicted on sedition conspiracy charges relating to the insurrection.

Inform me then, Matthew. Does Stone know Posobiec personally? Is Posobiec known for anti-Semitic, racists ideology? Has anyone filed a FOIA on Posobiec, or do you know anything about his stint in the Navy? Was he discharged honorably? I notice a lengthy report out of West Point on the threat of domestic terrorism that speaks directly to Proud Boys among other militant miscreants. I wonder if Posobiec was kicked out of the Navy? Questions you might be able to answer for us?

Now I realize why you're so sensitive about former Naval intelligence officer Jack Posobiec. According to [Richard the N-azi] Spencer, Posobiec introduced himself by saying, “I work for Roger Stone. I’m Roger Stone’s man.” In the photo below, Spencer is wearing the blue shirt and tie, and Posobiec is wearing the pink shirt. I have written previously about Posobiec. You can find that article here. Roger Stone protege Jack Posobiec has spread horrific lies and normalized antisemitism. He has 1.5 million Twitter followers. By Jennifer Cohn, 11/27/21 https://jennycohn1.medium.com/roger-stone-alex-jones-and-the-proud-boys-part-1-ebe7eec5e129

Your poor mother.

Did you watch the video, Chris. Are you relegating it to the "alternate" version of Tucker Carlson's version of Jan 6 ? Do you not see and hear the shaman in this footage? How bloody ironic that a "friend" of Roger Stone founded Proud Boys in 2016. The timing is purely coincidental, right? Your card has been marked, and I venture that you and yours will be revealed as provocateurs on this forum, eventually. Roger Stone, the Proud Boys , & Stone’s nework of miscreants— Part 2 (2017–2018) For years, Stone & his associates have courted & elevated violent extremists & re-branded them as “patriots.” Even before the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, Donald Trump’s longtime confidante, Roger Stone, had created a dangerous new template for American politics, combining information warfare with physical intimidation. The Proud Boys, an extremist group founded by one of Stone’s friends in September 2016, were a key element of this template. Five Proud Boys leaders have since been indicted on sedition conspiracy charges relating to the insurrection.

Trump is a Doppleganger, a Trojan Horse, and your efforts to equate the Jan 6 investigation with that of the Warren Commission is a corruption and erodes the progress in the cold case murder investigation into Kennedy's death. One must ask if that is not your agenda here? Watch, and especially listen to this video, Matthew, otherwise you are here disingenuously. Any court would demand this footage be presented in contrast to the footage of shaman being led around in circles in the Capitol while the police decided what to do as the hoards proceeded unlawfully into the building.

Well done, Cliff!

Benjamin, why didn't Trump release all of the records? And I hope you don't roll out Napolitano and the suggestion "he was just too afraid". Where was all this bluster from the new and corrupted research community when Trump backed down? Has anyone asked Roger Stone about this?

Of possible interest, Michael, related to the plot to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas . . . A portentous January 1968 affidavit sworn by Aginter Press assassin and Jean Rene Souetre associate Jacques Godard reveals the group’s relationship with certain American persons and organizations: “In the course of our services we had relations with certain persons and organizations like, for example, President Tschombe and with Biafra. We likewise were in charge of relations with the John Birch Society, which was an American political group financed especially by Texas oil producers whose activity is absolutely anti-communist. Everywhere where there is a struggle, either open or covert, with communists, the John Birch Society [JBS] lends its financial aid to the people who are struggling against international communism.” The reader encounters the significance of the Texas oil producers and the Dallas branch of the JBS in Chapter 1, “Lay of the Land,” to further understand the width and breadth of influence of Aginter Press and similar fascist organizations. . . . Lester Logue was a political associate of US Representative John Rousselot, an ardent member of the John Birch Society which received significant funding from among others, H. L. Hunt. In 1975, a man named Harry Dean, who claimed to have been a former undercover agent for the FBI and the CIA, reported that, in 1963, he had covertly infiltrated the John Birch Society where he learned that Rousselot, in partnership with fellow archconservative and Dallas resident, US Army General Edwin Walker, had hired soldier of fortune, Loran Hall, and Trafficante associate and gun for hire Eladio del Valle who had been a young legislature in Batista’s government, to kill President Kennedy in Dallas, Texas. Dean had no evidence to back up this bold claim, but credible reports that Hall and del Valle had been in Dallas on the fateful day made easy dismissal difficult. Lee Harvey Oswald, it may be recalled, allegedly had attempted to murder General Walker. Walker will be dealt with in depth in a later chapter. As mentioned previously, Loran Hall intimated that he initially met Tom Davis through Carolyn Hawley Davis who had briefly worked in Texas “doing accounting chores” for H. L. Hunt . . . When questioned by the FBI, Albert Osborne advised that he was an ordained Baptist Minister, and that he had not seen John Bowen since October 1963, contravening claims that Bowen had died in the late 1950s, but he believed that Bowen could be located at the Hotel Jung in New Orleans. According to a Louisiana State Police document, on November 20, 1963, General Edwin Walker met with some thirty-five conservative business leaders at the Hotel Jung, and again on the 21st, he was meeting with another ninety people at the Jung. Two years prior to these meetings, President John Kennedy had encouraged Walker to resign from his leadership role when in 1961, he violated his military oath by distributing political literature produced by the John Birch Society. That literature promoted accusations that his commander-in-chief was a traitor.

The courts have ruled I have choice, Matthew ... oh, wait.

It is indeed. Would that Kennedy had lived. But no one can guarantee what choices he would have made. I think his greatest gift to our collective was his firm belief in the potential of true democracy.

How embarrassing for your mother [and my respect and condolences if she has passed away] to realize she didn't successfully navigate you through adolescence.

Ah, I had no idea. I remember Ronnie well!!! Do you engage on Morley's site these days?

WHY did the Capitol need to be on alert, Benjamin? This is insane.

And I'm guessing we agree that Kennedy was flawed. He intervened when it suited his base as do most presidents. His faith and family history informed his perspective regarding immigration so I think you're off base there. Trade/commerce breeds friendships — and friendship was a cornerstone of his foreign policy, or at least his idea of, so I think he would have cautiously pursued free trade.

Are you Ed Forum-centric, Matthew? There's a world of assassination research out there, unfolding as we speak.

Oh, it was indeed a manufactured event, from HQ at the Willard Hotel. You are choosing to ignore the evidence that Eastman, and those surrounding Trump as the election was called, immediately set in motion an operation that would culminate at the Capitol on Jan 6. That, in my view, was an attempt to nail the coffin in our democracy ... the finale of the coup in Dallas.

My position is that Trump is a Doppelgänger, a Trojan Horse, and under the guidance of dirty trickster Roger Stone (who infiltrated the assassination research community), Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, et al was positioned as the white knight who would save America in a similar fashion as Kennedy attempted. Do you think it's a coincidence that Stone captured K researchers fancy ... he knew how to manipulate the concept of "conspiracy", and manipulate and distort he did. You seem to confuse Dallas with the Jan 6 ... playing into Stone's hands. I suspect you'll agree that Kennedy would have scorned Donald Trump and his ilk ... he knew "nut country" when he encountered it.

With all due respect, Benjamin, do you expect to be taken seriously when you argue, Even the videos you have posted, and those of the New Yorker, present the inside of the Capitol as rather tame, despite editing. It appears there were a few hooligans, or possibly Proud Boys or Oath Keepers, or possibly provocateurs inside the Capitol on 1/6. All three answers are possible. If that crowd landed on your doorstep, I suspect you would have guns drawn. (Apologies if you choose not to be armed in your own home.) The audio alone sends alarms. And please, would you kindly address the fact this was taking place instead of our elected leaders exercising their duty to ensure the peaceful transfer? How can you ignore that fact and maintain credibility here?

Benjamin, As I shared recently, I've been astonished by the tone of this particular thread which I assumed was related to the inevitability of what has transpired in the past 56 years because the assassination of Kennedy was never resolved. In the words of a PA attorney and good friend of Vince Salandria who actually disagreed with Vince's position that Kennedy was murdered as a result of a sophisticated conspiracy (my words not his), but argued nonetheless, It's Not Over Until It Is Fully Over. It is not fully over, and we here (presumably) know it. Getting to the bottom of cooptation by the alt-right of the term Deep State is a start in my opinion. Kennedy was assassinated at the behest elements within the Military Industrial Complex on an international scale and we should have stuck to that clear and indefensible designation ... not distort the fact with a blanc mange phrase like "deep state". Everything Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham, et al, as well as Newsma , OANN, Human Events, The Federalists, Daily Wire and Caller, etc., represent moves us that much closer to the disturbing possibility of final and complete success of the slow rolling coup in Dallas.