Bill Brown

Because Bowley tells us that he pulled up to the scene, got out of the car, went over to the body and immediately saw that there was nothing he could do for Tippit. So then he walked the extra five steps and took the mic from Benavides and reported the shooting. His report was made at 1:17.

I was asking a question. Thing is, what's the answer?

"Mr. Brown said that I "misrepresented" Scoggins' testimony that he didn't see the killer's face..." That's exactly what you've done; you've misrepresented what Scoggins said. "The witness testified that "it SEEMED like I could see his face", not that he saw his face." The witness testified that "it SEEMED like I could see his face", not that he didn't see his face. There you go. I fixed your statement for you. It's amazing to me that you take from it that the witness didn't see the guy's face when he said "it seemed like I could see his face". Scoggins was asked if the killer was wearing glasses. He said No. Scoggins was asked how old the killer looked. He said the guy looked to be 25, 26. You can only determine if a guy is wearing glasses if you're looking at his face. Also, there is no other way (that I know, anyway) to determine a person's age (who you see for only a few moments and is running straight toward you) other than looking at his face. "In addition, Scoggins was shown a photograph lineup which included a picture of Oswald and he picked someone else as the man he saw." Correct. The man that Scoggins saw running with a gun in his hands just seconds after the shots resembled the man in the lineup who he positively identified one day later as the cop-killer (Oswald). The man that Scoggins saw running with a gun in his hands just seconds after the shots did NOT resemble the photo of Oswald shown to him which was taken during the summer while down in New Orleans. So what? "When the shooting occurred, Scoggins bailed out of his cab like a scared rabbit and was lying next to it in the street." Alright. Scoggins was lying in the street, next to the cab? You're going to have to cite for this one. Where in the world did you get that from? It's a doozy. Scoggins bailed out of his cab. Yes. He began to cross the street (away from the approaching killer). After realizing he had nowhere to hide, he returned to his cab and was ducking behind it, peeking up to see the killer flee. "There's nothing to misrepresent." And yet, somehow you managed.

The problem is... this is what a lot of you conspiracy advocates do. You're irresponsible and others read it like it's gospel.

I didn't call anyone dishonest or ignorant. Your reading comprehension is off a bit.

Indeed. Now if only Mr. Paul Cummings could (finally) get on board with this simple fact. Instead of actually reading his very own citation and realizing it doesn't support his claim, he'd rather make jokes like calling me Charlie Brown. Alrighty then.

"If Bowles is correct and the clocks in the dispatch room were 2 or 3 minutes off..." You're misrepresenting what Bowles is saying (just like you did when you erroneously stated that Scoggins never saw the cop-killer's face). Bowles didn't say the clocks in the dispatch room "were 2 or 3 minutes off". He is giving hypotheticals. i.e. could have happened this way, might have happened that way. You hear many verbal time stamps after 12:30. This is the dispatcher reading from the clock in front of him. Therefore, these time stamps are internally consistent in terms of the amount of time between each time stamp. Bowles gives a number of reasons for why these time stamps may be off, all hypothetical. However, Bowles doesn't say that this happened and gives no examples of his hypotheticals. Bowles never claims the clocks were off at all on the day of the assassination. Again, all he did was provide hypotheticals. People like Gil Jesus then switch this around to say that the clocks were "2 to 3 minutes off". Is this dishonesty or ignorance?

"She [Markham] said the bus time was 1:15." No. She did not say that. Ball asked her what time she got her bus. Strange way to ask a question and we cannot determine for ourselves exactly how Markham interpreted the question. Therefore, we can not know for sure what her answer meant. She could just as easily be saying that she got to her bus stop at 1:15. Don't put words in her mouth. "We know the bus time was actually 1:12." THE bus? No, we don't know that. A bus stopped there at 1:12 and another one stopped there approximately ten minutes later. She never gives a time of 1:12 or 1:22. "...when he [Bowley] arrived at the Tippit scene and checked his watch, it read 1:10..." The verbal time stamps all throughout the police tapes, combined with Bowley's own descriptions of his actions upon arriving on the scene, completely destroy the idea that Bowley arrived at the scene at 1:10.

William Scoggins: "around 1:20" Virginia Davis: "about 1:30" Pat Patterson: "approximately 1:30" Mary Brock: "approximately 1:30" (not a witness to the shooting but saw Oswald approximately 3 minutes afterwards)

You appear to be the king of making straw man arguments. I have never said that any witness said the shooting occurred at 1:15.

Warren Commission Exhibit 162:

All I'm asking you to do then is copy and paste the part where Carr says the man was Oswald. Perhaps I've missed it all these years. Carr says the guy was heavy-set and wearing glasses.

Warren Commission Exhibit 162.

Mr. DULLES. May I ask what course he was taking when you last saw him?Mr. CALLAWAY. He was going west on Jefferson Street.Mr. DULLES. West on Jefferson Street?Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir. Before you (once again) call Callaway a l i a r and say that Callaway didn't see the gunman turn west on Jefferson, I should inform you that Sam Guinyard was very near Callaway's position on the sidewalk on Patton and also saw the gunman turn west onto Jefferson. Guinyard corroborates Callaway. "I saw a white man running south on Patton Street with a pistol in his hand. The last I saw of this man he was running west on Jefferson." -- Sam Guinyard (11.22.63 affidavit) Mr. GUINYARD. Mr. Callaway followed him, you see, we was together--he was my boss at that time and he followed him.Mr. BALL. Callaway?Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; trying to see which way was he going.Mr. BALL. And then, which way did he go after he got to Jefferson?Mr. GUINYARD. He went west on Jefferson--on the right-hand side---going west.Mr. BALL. And what did Callaway do?Mr. GUINYARD. He turned around and run back to the street and we helped load the policeman in the ambulance.

"If you present the TIppit case without Top Ten, Andrews, Gloco and the fracas at 10th and Marsalis you are only telling half a story." Top Ten: We don't hear of Stark and/or Cortinas coming forward with their story until 1981. Andrews: We don't hear of Andrews coming forward with his story until the early 90's. GLOCO: IF Tippit was sitting at the GLOCO, it proves absolutely nothing. Do you somehow believe it is proof of anything? Explain. The fracas at 10th and Marsalis: Nothing about this supposed Fracas on the police tapes. In fact, nothing about this supposed incident until Brownlow decides to make it up decades after the assassination. "So I have a hard time taking seriously anyone who somehow says that wrong way Calloway is probative, or leaving out any alternative scenario to the Tippit shooting." Again with the "wrong way Callaway" stuff. I've already told you that you conveniently ignore that Sam Guinyard corroborates Callaway.

Again, where does Carr say the man was Oswald? Good grief.

One at a time... Cite for Carr saying the man who he saw get into a Rambler was Lee Oswald.

Jack Meyers hypothesized that the reason Tippit was on Tenth Street was because of the incident on Marsalis. I asked him how would Tippit have become aware of such a "fracas" since it's not on the police tapes. All Jack (a nice guy) could do was basically say "I don't know". That you rely on anything Brownlow says tells me a lot about you.

Except that it's not just one witness who said the man running with a gun in his hand was Oswald. Helen Markham Barbara Davis Virginia Davis William Scoggins Sam Guinyard Ted Callaway Harold Russell Pat Patterson Warren Reynolds How many "innocent persons on death row" were positively identified as the culprit by nine witnesses?

In real time, the tapes are pretty much non-stop once Bowley makes his report on the patrol car radio at 1:17. At 1:22, Walker broadcasted the physical description of the killer. You've already acknowledged this. What you're dismissing out of convenience is that less than four minutes before Walker's report went out, the ambulance reported that it had just arrived at the scene. Yet, for some reason, you have the ambulance arriving at 1:10, some twelve minutes before Walker's report went out at 1:22.

Good. And what else is on the DPD radio log? At 1:18:38, Butler (ambulance 602) reports on the police radio that they are en route.At 1:18:59, the ambulance (602) reports to the police dispatcher that they have arrived at the scene.

Callaway did not have to find out from Benavides which way the killer went. Callaway watched the killer run down Patton and also saw him turn west onto Jefferson. Mr. DULLES. May I ask what course he was taking when you last saw him?Mr. CALLAWAY. He was going west on Jefferson Street.Mr. DULLES. West on Jefferson Street?Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir. Before you (once again) call Callaway a xxxx and say that Callaway didn't see the gunman turn west on Jefferson, I should inform you that Sam Guinyard was very near Callaway's position on the sidewalk on Patton and also saw the gunman turn west onto Jefferson. Guinyard corroborates Callaway. "I saw a white man running south on Patton Street with a pistol in his hand. The last I saw of this man he was running west on Jefferson." -- Sam Guinyard (11.22.63 affidavit) Mr. GUINYARD. Mr. Callaway followed him, you see, we was together--he was my boss at that time and he followed him.Mr. BALL. Callaway?Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; trying to see which way was he going.Mr. BALL. And then, which way did he go after he got to Jefferson?Mr. GUINYARD. He went west on Jefferson--on the right-hand side---going west.Mr. BALL. And what did Callaway do?Mr. GUINYARD. He turned around and run back to the street and we helped load the policeman in the ambulance.

How about someone, anyone, listing even one piece of physical evidence pointing anywhere other than Oswald for the murder of J.D. Tippit.

With Malice by Dale Myers is all you need to read. It tells you everything you need to know. This is a fact.

How do you know that Walker broadcasted the killer's description from the scene at 1:22?