Bill Brown

Great movie, one of the best. By the way, I read the article by Jack Meyers. He emailed it to me before submitting it to get my thoughts.

Probably more than anyone, I have spoken up about the name-calling over at that forum many times. I'm not a fan of it. As a matter of fact, I'm Admin of two facebook discussion groups, JFK TRUTH BE TOLD and TENTH & PATTON. Name calling is not allowed in either group (though sometimes it can skip by if not pointed out). I have deleted comments and warned LNers for name calling just as I have done to CTs. As for Reclaiming History, I believe it serves very well as a minute by minute account of that weekend. But, I don't share Bugliosi's opinion all the time on what constitutes proof and/or evidence of Oswald's guilt. The 53 items he lists, some of them I don't consider evidence of anything.

Ya think? LOL How long has it taken you to figure that out?

For some reason, you're going completely off-topic. Maybe you should make a new thread.

Bowley's watch couldn't have been off by 5 or 6 minutes? I guess it comes down to whether or not you allow your bias to cause you to dismiss the detailed actions of Callaway and Benavides and the time stamps on the police tapes in favor of Bowley's 1963 era windup wristwatch.

Callaway said "around 1 pm or so". 1:14, 1:15 could be considered "around 1 pm or so" to many people. How do you know exactly what Callaway meant by "around" and "or so"?

Nonsense. The Dallas Transit System told the FBI that a bus was scheduled to stop there at 1:12, 1:22 and about every ten minutes thereafter; nothing about Markham catching a 1:12 bus. Stop making things up to fit your narrative.

Callaway first tried to get Benavides to go with him in Benavides' truck. After Benavides declined, Callaway went over to Scoggins and asked Scoggins to help him go look for the guy in Scoggins' cab. Callaway asked Scoggins: "You saw the guy, didn't you?" Callaway tried to get both men to go with him in search of the killer and most likely asked Benavides the same thing that he asked Scoggins moments later.

In 1967, Benavides told Eddie Barker (The Warren Report, CBS, part 3) that he watched the killer go around the corner and then sat there in his truck "for a second or two" before getting out and going over to the patrol car and getting in the radio. For you to believe that Benavides really sat in his truck for a few minutes before getting out means you believe he was still cowering down inside his truck while people like Helen Markham and the Davis sisters and others were over at the patrol car tending to Tippit. That's foolish.

You're wrong about this. Callaway did not ask Benavides which way the guy went. That's not quite how it went down. Callaway was wanting Benavides to go with him in search of the Killer and Callaway said you saw which way he went, didn't you? Meaning something like "You also saw which way he went, let's go after him". Callaway watched the gunman go all the way down Patton to Jefferson and even saw him head west on Jefferson.

And others said they heard shots around 1:30. So what?

Ted Callaway testified that after hearing the five gun shots, he ran out to the sidewalk on Patton. This was a little over a half block south of the shooting scene. Callaway saw a man (who he later identified as Oswald) cutting across Patton as he (Oswald) made his way south on Patton (towards Callaway's position). Callaway hollered out to the man as the man continued south on Patton past Callaway's position. Callaway testified that the man was running and holding a gun. Callaway saw the man head west on Jefferson (the same direction as the theater). Once the man turned west onto Jefferson, Callaway ran a "good hard run" up to the corner of Tenth and Patton. Callaway, noticing the stopped patrol car, went to the car and saw the officer (Tippit) lying dead in the street. Callaway said the first thing he did was to grab the police car radio and report the shooting. He said he didn't know if anyone had reported it yet, so he decided to report it himself. To recap, Callaway hears the shots. Runs to the sidewalk. Sees the gunman run south on Patton the entire block from Tenth to Jefferson. Runs the two-thirds of a block up to the shooting scene. Goes over to the police car and the first thing he does is grab the radio and report the shooting to the police dispatcher. How much time do you believe passed from the time Callaway heard the shots to the time he reported the shooting on the police radio? Let's say two minutes pass from the time Oswald shoots Tippit to the time Oswald turns the corner from Patton onto Jefferson. This is a little over one block and Oswald was running. Let's say it takes Callaway one minute when he made the "good hard run" the two-thirds of a block from his location to the patrol car. If these two time estimates are anywhere close to being correct, then Callaway is at the patrol car roughly three minutes after the shots rang out. Let's add another full minute for error. So we have Callaway at the patrol car using the police radio about four minutes after the shots rang out. Here's the thing... Callaway's report to the dispatcher while using the patrol car radio took place at 1:19/1:20. Do the math and work it backwards. At 1:19/1:20, Callaway makes the call. If four minutes have passed (and that's being generous, in my opinion) since the shots rang out, then the shots rang out around 1:15.

Oswald left the rooming house around 1:00 p.m. 1:01 p.m., maybe 1:02 p.m. Earlene Roberts said he was back in his room "just long enough to grab a jacket". Tippit was shot around 1:14 p.m. to 1:15 p.m.; plenty of time to get there on foot.

Right. The Oswald in the photo shown to him, likely the New Orleans booking photo, did not look identical to the disheveled Oswald he saw running with a gun in Oak Cliff. However, the disheveled Oswald he saw running with a gun in Oak Cliff did look like the Oswald in the lineup.

This is addressed in Brennan's Warren Commission testimony. It's all we have to go on. Perhaps you should go read it.

I don't believe mistakenly claiming that Oswald was in police lineups alongside men in suits is a minor peripheral detail.

And it's my opinion that I have not been rude to McBride in this thread. He put his interview out there and I'm responding to it.

For starters, can you quote me defending Bugliosi's book? I don't recall doing so.

McBride either doesn't know the case (Oswald in a lineup alongside men in suits, Brennan having bad eyesight on the day of the assassination) and therefore does not belong up on the pedestal which you place him... Or.... McBride is telling porky pies about those things and therefore does not belong up on the pedestal which you place him. One of these must be true. Which is it?

"He can bitch and holler all he wants to, but that's the man I saw running from the scene." - William Scoggins(Jim Leavelle interview with Dale Myers)

Again... Oswald did not appear in any lineup alongside men in suits. You guys gotta stop it with that nonsense. As for McBride's "presentation and, by extension, his work"... Are you aware that he stated that Howard Brennan had poor eyesight on 11.22.63? It should be common knowledge that Brennan had the sandblasting accident (which damaged his vision somewhat) in January of '64. I could go on and on.

I called out McBride for a silly statement that he made and it somehow means that I have no problems at all with the lineups?

I believe the Dallas Police Department could have done better on the line-ups.

And by the way, mentioning only that error, I was being nice. He said a lot of foolish things in that interview.

No. Some unsuspecting listener who's new to the case could hear him say that and believe it. It's irresponsible and foolish.