Doug Horne

[David G. Healy]

'Craig no hard data Lamson' said...

WOW, you know the CIA had its own K-whatever line? How about a cite for that one davie?

So what if its "questioned" Questions and speculation are a dime a dozen. How about some hard data instead? Maybe your "scientist" friends can help you with that.

Oh wait thats not working too well for you now is it...

best get a partner if your gonna dance the night through there chum.... actually you're in desperate need of a Ph.D. physicist, of any stripe... LMFAO! Man, does Doug Horne have you nutter-trolls churning the midnight oil...

Dance sweet gloria, D-A-N-C-E

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

Bill, this is helpful. Presumably, if there were an uninterrupted chain of custody--an authentic uninterrupted chain of custody--then it would have been impossible for the film to have been altered. An interrupted chain of custody is therefore a necessary condition for film fakery. (I have no doubt that this is why, instead of confronting multiple proofs of anomalies, Thompson has focused on the alleged "uninterrupted chain of custody".) That Horne has now established that the chain of custody was actually broken--that there IS no "authentic unbroken chain of custody"--is therefore valuable in refuting his argument. But there is a difference between HOW it might have been done and whether or not it WAS done. Your lack of interest in the anomalies that prove it WAS done has therefore been a reflection of your failure to distinguish HOW IT WAS DONE from WHETHER IT WAS DONE. David Lifton, Jack White, David Mantik, and John Costella--not to mention Rich DellaRosa--have established THAT IT WAS FAKED. Notice, in particular, that even if there were a broken chain of custody and two more teams were working on physically different kinds of film, as you have previously described, that is not enough to prove that they were working on TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS of the film. That is a question of content and no end of research on the chain of custody can replace PROOF IT WAS ALTERED. I am willing to grant that this new information completely destroys the argument that Thompson has pushed (of there having been no opportunity for it to have been faked). But those of us who understand the anomalies have always KNOWN IT WAS FAKED, where the residual question was HOW IT WAS DONE. This question, I am delighted to say, now appears to have been resolved. But notice that, if the film restoration experts who reviewed the film for Doug HAD NOTICED NO ANOMALIES, the whole matter would be moot. In fact, it was SPECTACULARLY OBVIOUS to them that the film had been faked. No one would care if the chain of custody had been broken, because, given an absence of anomalies, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED. I think your heart is in the right place--I do not question your sincerity!--but you have to see through Thompson's phony argument. Now that you have, I hope you can appreciate why the anomalies matter. There is a basic difference between proving THAT SOMETHING HAS BEEN DONE from proving EXACTLY HOW IT WAS DONE. You have been preoccupied with the latter, we with the former. Both matter, but in different ways. I hope that this clarifies where I stand and that you now agree to the importance of both. I hope so.

Was the Zapruder Film at the Hawkeye Works? By William Kelly

"The research community, I argued, should get the records first, and debate what the data meant after we got the records." – Doug Horne (Page 1365, Chapter 14, Volume IV, Inside the Assassinations Records Review Board – IARRB, 2009)

The very week that the first large batch of previously secret government JFK Assassination Records were released, Gerald Posner's book Case Closed was published, clearly provoking the message that the files were released and the case was closed.

When the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) ceased its operations after releasing millions of pages of documents, one of the former board members, confident that the released records would confirm the government's official version of events, said that it would take at least ten years before the board's work could be seriously evaluated. It would take that long for people to read all the information that was released.

Well now it's been over a decade since the ARRB closed up shop and said its work was done, and in retrospect with the publication of Doug Horne's Inside the Assassination Records Review Board, we know their work, identifying and releasing the government records, is not done, and neither is ours.

While each of the five volumes of Horn's IARRB addresses important subjects, the one issue that has raised some of the most intense debates is whether the Zapruder film gives an accurate account of the assassination.

For the most part, those who claim the film has been altered, and now branded "alterationists" by those who believe in the film's authenticity, have based their claims primarily anomalies in the content of the film - whether Jean Hill was standing on the curb or in the street, cuts and splices here and there, reversed frames in publications, and certifiably false descriptions of the content by Dan Rather and the Life correspondent Paul Mandel.

In comments to reviews of his book at Amazon.com, Douglas P. Horne wrote:

"…Although I did not set out to write a book about the Zapruder film, during my final year of writing it became a subject of intense focus for me, and the evidence I found of its alteration was astonishingly persuasive. I write about new evidence of the Zapruder film's alteration not yet presented elsewhere, so I encourage everyone who has not read Chapter 14 yet to keep an open mind and decide what to believe about the film's authenticity themselves, AFTER READING IT, and not to defer to the opinions of others. For decades I believed the film was authentic, because it was the natural assumption to make. Now, I am convinced it could not possibly be. I kept an open mind and went where the evidence took me on this issue, just as I did with the medical evidence."

Jack White, Professor James Fetzer, David Healey, Harry Livingstone and others have focused on the anomalies and discrepancies in the film in an attempt to prove that it has been altered, while Josiah Thompson, Bob Groden, Gary Mack, David Wrone, Rollie Zavada and others have tried to dismiss their clams and maintain the Zapruder film is an authentic rendition of the assassination as it happened.

While I have followed the debate from a distance, I was persuaded that the film was authentic by Thompson, who points out that three copies of the film were made and all four films would have to have been altered and that other films and photos that were taken at the same time and place would also have to be manipulated for the alterationists' theory to be true.

I was also against the alterationist theory because I thought the extant Zapruder film was itself proof of conspiracy in exhibiting the appearance of a shot striking JFK in the head from the front and driving him "back to the left," as Jim Garrison famously said.

While I thought it would be great if it could be proven to have been tampered with because that would constitute tampering with evidence and obstruction of justice - crimes that individuals could be indicted for, the anomalies themselves didn't point to any particular person who could have altered the films.

I was also against the alterationist theory because I didn't think the Z-film was the best evidence of conspiracy, and didn't lead to anyone specific – a new witness who could shed more light on the case or a suspect who could be indicted.

In Chapter 14 of IARRB Volume IV, Doug Horne does get into the micro analysis of anomalies, describing each one in detail, and adding a new one to the mix – the edge of the Stemmons Freeway sign, which was recently uncovered by Sydney Wilkerson, who works on Hollywood movies. Sydney bought some first generation large 35 mm stills of the Z-film from the NARA and with a team of professional Hollywood special effects producers, has examined the film closely. They are preparing a yet to be released report on their study which could include positive scientific proof of tampering, or at the very least will show how the film could have been tampered with, - eliminating the brief stop that over 50 witnesses claim they saw, fudging up JFK's head wound to indicate a large frontal exit wound, and eliminating the blowout of the back of the head.

But more significantly, without regard to the content of the film, Doug Horne went back to where the first enlargements were made of the original Z-film still frames at the National Photo Interpretation Center (NPIC) and interviewed some of those who made the enlargements. From their reports, he determined that two different enlargement sessions were held at two different times and using two different types of film. This inquiry into the Zapruder film trail leads to where the film could have been tampered with – at the CIA's secret Hawkeye Works plant, and who there might have done it.

While Doug Horne's Chapter The Zapruder Film Mystery contains details of the debate over the anomalies in the content, the new Stemmons Freeway sign anomaly and the study being done by the Hollywood special effects team, the rest of this review will deal strictly with the disputed provenance of the hard copies of the celluloid film, and if this leads to new records that weren't covered by the JFK Act, or new witnesses and/or suspects.

One way to gage the value of evidence or the veracity of witnesses is to weight it by how much can be independently verified and whether it leads to new records, new documents, new witness and new evidence.

In addition, if one's approach to a subject has repeatedly run into a dead end wall, as the debate over the anomalies seems to, sometimes it is best to stop the head banging and try a different approach to the problem.

[bK Notes: The Z-film chapter 14 in Volume IV runs 193 pages, from P 1185 to P 1378, and the quotes are sourced by the page number at the end of the quote.]

In Chapter 14, The Zapruder Film Mystery Doug Horne writes:

"No one would greet with equanimity being told that his approach to researching a subject has been incorrect—based on a false foundation—and that his life's work has essentially been a waste of time. This characterizes all fields of scientific and historical research, and explains the virulent passions aroused within academia whenever a new paradigm is introduced which calls into question the accepted research methodology for a given discipline. The more central the subject matter, the more those emotions are on display whenever the fundamental bases for a given approach are challenged. Thomas Kuhn's seminal 1962 work, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, readily reveals this."

In order to determine its authenticity the ARRB brought in a specialist, Rollie Zavada of Kodak, who studied the film and issued a report shortly before the termination of the board.

At that time, Horne writes, "In late September of 1998, when the authenticity study was completed, I was simply grateful that Kodak had agreed to perform this task for the ARRB, and that we had been successful in getting them to do it on a pro bono basis. Physically and intellectually exhausted at the end of my frenetic three-year ARRB experience, I placed my copy of the report on the shelf, and didn't even begin to study it in any detail until May of 1999.2 What I began to find then, and continue to find today, is evidence within the report itself that casts doubt upon the film's authenticity…" P. 1186

"At one time in 1998, as the report was nearing completion, and as I was receiving frequent status reports from Rollie (Zavada) about his progress (on the Kodak report), he almost had me convinced that it was authentic. But since I began to study his report in detail in May of 1999, I have modified my position and now firmly suspect the extant film in the National Archives is a forgery, created from the true original in a sophisticated CIA photo lab at the Kodak main industrial plant in Rochester, New York."

"That's right: I just said that I believe that the presumed 'original' of the Zapruder film in the National Archives today was not exposed inside Abe Zapruder's Bell and Howell movie camera, but rather was created in a photo lab run for the CIA by Kodak, at its main industrial site and corporate headquarters, in Rochester, New York (using Abe Zapruder's camera-original film, of course, as the baseline). Astronomer Carl Sagan once said: 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.'"

"Fair enough. I intend to provide that evidence in this chapter. Before I proceed I wish to make one thing perfectly clear: during the period 1996-1998, I had the highest respect and admiration for Rollie Zavada, and I did not believe, at that time, that he was part of any attempt by Kodak to 'cover up the truth.' The Rollie Zavada with whom I worked so closely for over two years, from 1996-1998, was in my judgment at that time a man of sterling integrity, and an honest actor in all respects. We just happened to disagree about whether or not the Zapruder film was likely authentic, I reasoned, because each of us honestly and independently imbued selected aspects of the evidence with differing levels of importance." P 1188

"While I believe the film certainly does indicate that shots were fired from in front of, as well as from behind the limousine — and thus proves conspiracy — I believe that it cannot be used as a 'time clock' of the assassination, and that because of its alteration, it is worthless in this regard, and will lead anyone who attempts to use it as a 'time clock' to formulate invalid conclusions. Before I begin to present my case for these assertions, it is necessary to review the film's provenance prior to 1997." P 1194

"The Bell and Howell camera shot what was called 'double 8' film: each roll consisted of 25 feet of useable film that was 16 mm wide, with approximately 4 extra feet of 'leader' on each end, for a total of about 33 feet of 16 mm wide, double perforated film (i.e., with sprocket holes on both sides of the 16 mm film strip) on the spool. As a new reel of film was exposed in the camera, only one half of its width (8 mm wide), known as the "A" side of the reel, was exposed to images coming through the lens. When each 25-foot (actually, 33-foot) reel of film had been completely exposed on one side, the camera operator would open up the camera, move the full take-up reel at the bottom of the magazine to the upper position where the supply reel had been, and place the now-empty original supply reel where the take up reel had been at the bottom of the film magazine. Once this was done, and the film had been manually re-threaded in the camera, the camera operator was ready to expose another 25 feet of useable film, called the

"B" side of the 16 mm wide reel of film. After each roll of double 8 film was completely exposed on both A and B sides, it was developed while still a 16 mm wide double perforated reel of film. After developing, the 16 mm wide reel of film contained two adjacent 8 mm wide image strips going in opposite directions; this necessitated slitting the 16 mm wide film down the center of the entire reel, and then joining together the two 8 mm wide film strips (sides A and with a physical splice. The result was a developed home movie product that consisted of 50 feet of useable film, with varying amounts of leader attached at the heads and tails ends, and with perforations on only one side—the left-hand side (when the image is viewed correctly). The finished product was now only 8 mm wide, and was a 'single perf' film that could only be played in an 8 mm movie projector." P 1195

"Zapruder had already exposed a home movie of family scenes on side A of his reel of film, and had flipped the full takeup reel over and placed it in the supply position in the film magazine prior to the motorcade, so that he could expose side B when President Kennedy's motorcade passed by on Elm Street. Prior to filming the motorcade on side B, he exposed about 177 frames of test footage [about 60 frames of a close-up of a green chair, and about 117 frames of people — apparently Marilyn Sitzman and the Hesters —near the white cement pergola west of the Book Depository], to ensure his film was threaded properly and that his camera was operating as it should be…" P 1196

"Without prejudice regarding whether the film in the Archives is authentic or not, it can be described as follows: the assassination portion of the Zapruder film in the Archives is now 480 frames in length (6 frames of the extant film—155-156, and 208-211—were damaged and removed by LIFE, but are still present on the two Secret Service copies); it is about 26 and one half seconds in duration when played at 18.3 frames per second; and the image content is only about 6 feet, 3 inches in length..."

Zapruder, accompanied by others, including a Secret Service agent, took the film to the Kodak lab in Dallas to be developed, but because that lab cannot make copies, special arrangements had to be made with the Jamieson lab where three copies were to be made.

Horne reports that, "…Since they knew that the Jamieson lab's contact printers could only accommodate 16 mm film, Kodak initially did not slit Zapruder's 16 mm wide, 'double 8' film down the center to create an 8 mm wide home movie, as they normally would have. His camera original film, as developed, was 16 mm wide, and had image strips on both sides (his home movie and the assassination sequence from Dealey Plaza), running in opposite directions."

"Following their return to the Kodak lab at about 8 PM, the three Kodachrome IIA contact prints were developed by the Kodak staff and the 'first day copies' were then slit lengthwise, down the middle of the entire length of each film, per normal practice, and reassembled as 8 mm 'single perf' movies (presumably with the home movie shot on side A first, followed by the assassination film shot on side that could only be viewed in normal circumstances thereafter on an 8 mm home movie projector. The assassination film—either the slit original, or one of the 'first day copies'—was then viewed at the Kodak plant in its 8 mm configuration."

"Whether the original film was slit or unslit on the day of the assassination, the record shows that it was retained throughout Friday night and into Saturday morning by Abraham Zapruder, along with one of the 'first day copies.' The only Zapruder film to leave Dallas on November 22, 1963 was the 'first day copy' that agent Max Phillips put on an airplane to Washington, D.C." P 1199

"The official record shows that Zapruder went home late Friday night with his original film and with one of the three 'first day copies'—the other two 'first day copies' had been loaned to the Secret Service. Zapruder would never see them again." P 1200

"Trask writes that the original was sent to LIFE's Chicago printing plant in preparation for the publication of still frames (the black-and-white images) in LIFE's November 29 issue, and Trask implies, but does not specifically state, that this occurred on Saturday. Although Richard Stolley told Esquire magazine in 1973 that the sole remaining first day copy went to LIFE's New York office on Saturday, Trask notes that this cannot be true because the film was viewed by various persons in Dallas throughout the weekend, and by others (including CBS news reporter Dan Rather) on Monday, November 25. The only film in Dallas available to be viewed on Sunday and Monday — since the Secret Service had two copies and LIFE reportedly had the original—was the third of the three 'first day copies'made by Zapruder, thus proving that it did not go to New York on Saturday as Stolley incorrectly recalled in 1973. The transfer of the original to the LIFE publishing plant in Chicago, which Trask assumes occurred on Saturday (simply because of the language in the Saturday contract and because Stolley shipped it to Chicago on Saturday), is by no means certain." P. 1201

"Richard Stolley approached Abe Zapruder Sunday night about renegotiating the contract signed on Saturday, in order to give LIFE full rights, rather than the limited print rights

negotiated on Saturday—and that on Monday morning, LIFE publisher C. D. Jackson called Stolley and formalized what had been set in motion the night before, giving him official permission to acquire all rights to the film,…" P 1202

If any shennagans with the Zapruder film went on, those who claim it was altered point to the National Photo Interpretation Center (NPIC) in Washington D.C., run by the CIA, which turned hand written notes over to the ARRB that had been given to the Rockefeller Commission and indicated the Zapruder film was at the NPIC at some point during the weekend of the assassination.

According to Horne:

"Six pages of photocopied notes related to the Zapruder film had been retained by the NPIC since 1963. [There are five sheets of paper that constitute the notes; one sheet had information on both sides, yielding six pages of photocopied notes.] The undated notes, in retrospect, describe three different activities conducted at different times within NPIC by different groups of people, but this was not understood at the time by the Rockefeller Commission and indeed, was not understood by the JFK research community until 1998 when the ARRB's office files were released. One

activity was the creation of enlargements—color prints—from individual frames of

the Zapruder film, which were subsequently used in the creation of briefing board

panels. A second activity was the creation of the briefing board panels themselves,

which may have been done immediately after the enlargements were made, but in any

case were created by different persons from the photographers who enlarged the

Zapruder frames. [Three of the six pages of notes refer to the photographic work,

and the organization and content of the briefing board panels.] We now know that

photographic specialists enlarged frames from the Zapruder film by first making

greatly magnified internegatives, and then by making individual color prints from

each internegative; graphics specialists then created three briefing board sets, of four

panels each, using the photos. The third activity was a shot and timing analysis of

the image content contained in the Zapruder frames, which uses dentical language

found in a shot and timing analysis published in the aforementioned article by Paul

Mandel on page 52F in the December 6, 1963 issue of LIFE magazine." P. 1207

After buying the print and then belatedly the motion picture rights to the Zap film, and gaining control over the original film, Life then suppressed the film and kept it from being shown to the public, though bootleg copies flourished. Then Life sold the film back to the Zapruder family for $1 and the ARRB had to determine if the film could be considered for inclusion in the JFK Assassination Records Collection at the National Archives. Towards that end the ARRB conducted a rare public hearing on the subject of the Zapruder film, which was telecast on TV on C-SPAN and sparked some interesting investigative leads, or "walk ins," as they say in the intelligence profession.

As Horne describes it, "On April 2, 1997, the ARRB conducted a Public Hearing at the old Archives building on the National Mall in order to "...seek public comment and advice on what should be done with the camera original motion picture film of the assassination that was taken by Abraham Zapruder on November 22, 1963."

"The issue facing the Review Board was whether the Zapruder film was an 'assassination record' under the JFK Act that should be placed into the JFK Records Collection at the National Archives, and whether it should be considered U.S. government property, rather than the property of private citizen…The Public Hearing was aired on C-SPAN television and makes for interesting viewing;…" P 1214

A MAJOR CHAIN-OF-CUSTODY DISCREPANCY

"Until 1997, there were no discrepancies in the film's chain-of-custody that seriously challenged the belief that the film in the National Archives was the same film described in the affidavit trail from the Kodak and Jamieson film labs in Dallas. There was one possible problem: that was the mention in the Rockefeller Commission's 9 page 1978 FOIA release (CIA Document 1641-450) that someone at NPIC had shot internegatives, conducted a print test, and made three copies. Although provocative and worthy of further attention and investigation, the meaning of this single, undated page out of the 9 total pages of released working notes from NPIC was both unclear, and as it turned out, misleading."

"However, in 1997, and again in 2009, very strong evidence was uncovered indicating that while the CIA's National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC) never did replicate or copy the Zapruder film as a motion picture, that it did briefly possess the film, and perform two compartmentalized operations the very weekend of the assassination, in which two separate and distinct briefing board products were created for different customers within the U.S. government. Furthermore, the information obtained in 1997 (by the ARRB) was that the film brought to NPIC for analysis at the second of these two events that weekend did not come from Dallas (where the original film had been developed on Friday, November 22) but instead came from a CIA film lab at the Kodak main industrial facility in Rochester, New York, whose very existence was highly classified not only in 1963, but in 1997 as well." P 1220

"The ARRB's Public Hearing on the Zapruder film that C-SPAN televised on April 2, 1997 was seen by a former NPIC employee named Morgan Bennett Hunter (hereafter referred to as "Ben"), who was still employed by the CIA in 1997 in another capacity. His wife, who was also CIA, relayed to the CIA's Historical Review Group (HRG) that her husband had been involved in events related to the Zapruder film at NPIC the weekend of the assassination, as well as the name of her husband's supervisor at that event, Mr. Homer A. McMahon. HRG (represented by Mr. Barry Harrelson) then

dutifully informed the ARRB staff that the HRG was aware of two witnesses to the handling of the film at NPIC the weekend of the assassination, and provided both of their names to us. In relatively short order, the CIA cleared both men to talk to us." P 1221

"Both men recalled that they were called in to work at NPIC the weekend of the assassination "a couple of days" or so after the assassination, but before the President's funeral, and that they worked throughout the night into the next morning to complete their assigned work on a home movie taken of the assassination (which no one called 'the Zapruder film' at the time, but which they both subsequently identified as that when they saw the surviving briefing board panels in 1997). The essentials of the event they both described are summarized below:

McMahon was the Head of the NPIC Color Lab in 1963, and Ben Hunter, his

assistant that night, was a relatively new CIA employee who had just left active duty

as an enlisted man with the U.S. Air Force at Offut Air Force Base in Nebraska (SAC

headquarters). Hunter began working with NPIC on December 17, 1962, and helped

NPIC relocate from the Steuart Motors building (a Ford dealership used for cover)

in downtown Washington into its new quarters in building 213 at the Navy Yard in

Washington D.C. on January 1, 1963. Robert F. Kennedy apparently had an old

warehouse converted into NPIC's new, more secure location inside the Navy Yard

following a 90-day crash renovation and conversion, following the Cuban Missile

Crisis in 1962. In 1997, building 213 was still a nondescript-looking building with

its windows bricked up, located across the street from the Navy Yard 'Metro' (i.e.,

subway) station in southeast D.C., and it was still dedicated to photography, except

that in 1997 it was the home of NIMA, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency.

In 1963, McMahon stressed, the existence of the NPIC was so sensitive that he was

not allowed to tell anyone that he worked at NPIC—in fact, he was required to use

the CIA as his cover. While the CIA paid his salary, he was secretly an NPIC employee, working for a subdivision of the Agency whose existence was still secret" P 1222

"McMahon made clear that the reason he was so certain about the location where the

film was developed was because the Secret Service agent used the in-house code name for a state-of-the-art CIA-funded Kodak photo lab at Rochester when he described where the film had been developed. The code word had only one possible meaning, and that meaning precisely identified that site as the CIA lab at Kodak's industrial facility in Rochester, New York. [When the CIA's HRG found out that McMahon had used the still-current code name for the facility in Rochester, they demanded that the ARRB excise the code name of the CIA's Kodak-manned Rochester photo lab from the audiotape that was to be released to the public, which I dutifully did. Any researcher who listens to the Archives recording of the July 14, 1997 interview will not hear the name of the facility on that tape, for this reason. However, there is also an unredacted tape in the JFK Records Collection — the original — which does contain Homer McMahon's coded reference to the CIA's Kodak-run lab in Rochester.]…"

"Homer McMahon consistently claimed that he had enlarged individual frames from the original film, and that he recalled it was a 16 mm wide unslit double 8 home movie. During the first McMahon interview, he stated he was "sure we had the original film," because "we had to flip it over to see the image on the other side in the correct orientation." McMahon confirmed this recollection of an unslit double 8 home movie with opposing image strips during his in-person interview which was tape recorded on July 14, 1997…"

"…Although McMahon personally thought he saw JFK reacting to 6 to 8 shots fired from at least three directions, he said that the Secret Service agent arrived with his mind made up that only three shots had been fired, and that they all came from the Texas School Book Depository, behind the limousine." P 1224

"Both McMahon and Hunter said they had never seen the 3 legal-sized yellow pages

of notes related to the shot and timing analysis before. There was only one piece of

paper among the original notes which contained the handwriting of either man—a

half-sized sheet of yellow paper—the piece of paper upon which the handwritten entries 'shoot internegs, proc and dry, print test, make three prints,' and 'process and dry prints' are annotated, along with the respective times required for each step. McMahon recognized some of this handwriting as his own, and some of it as Hunter's. On the reverse side of this sheet of paper is a handwritten organization chart of the briefing board panels, and Hunter recognized two entries on this page as being written in his own hand."

"Analysis: First of all, we can now state with certainty that NPIC never copied the Zapruder film as a motion picture, even though for years the NPIC notes had mislead some researchers into believing that it had. However, Homer McMahon's rock-solid certainty that the film brought to him was an original, unslit 16 mm wide, double 8 movie—and that it came from a classified CIA photo lab run by Kodak at Rochester—implies that McMahon and Hunter were not working with the true camera-original film developed in Dallas, but were instead working with a re-created, altered film masquerading as 'the original.'…"

"…If McMahon was correct that he had viewed an original, 16 mm wide, unslit double 8 movie film the weekend of the assassination, and if it was really developed in Rochester at a CIA lab run by Kodak (as he was unambiguously told it was), then the extant film in the Archives is not a camera original film, but a simulated 'original' created with an optical printer at the CIA's secret film lab in Rochester."

DINO BRUGIONI

Dino Brugioni is not new to those who have studied the JFK assassination. Besides writing the book "Eyeball to Eyeball" about the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the role photo recognizance played in that affair, Brugioni wrote a book about the CIA's photo lab and how they uncover fake photos, like the one of Mao swimming is a fake, and the one of Oswald in the backyard with the weapons and commie magazines is real.

In conclusion to his book on photo fakery, Brugioni says that one day photos will not be admissible in court as evidence because they can be so readily altered and manipulated. But it wasn't the ARRB who got Brugioni's acount, it was a tenacious independent researcher Peter Janney.

Doug Horne explains how they got Brugioni's story:

"During the period January 30-June 27, 2009, an extremely curious and energetic researcher, Peter Janney of Beverly, Massachusetts, after being alerted by Gerald McKnight (author of Breach of Trust) to the lead in Wrone's book, contacted Dino Brugioni and interviewed him on seven (7) separate occasions,"

"…Dino Brugioni was the Chief of the NPIC Information Branch, and worked directly for the Director of NPIC, Arthur Lundahl, from 1954 until Lundahl retired in 1973. Arthur Lundahl, as Dino Brugioni explained to Peter Janney, was the western world's foremost photoanalyst during those two decades. And anytime that Mr. Lundahl needed a briefing board prepared, it was Dino Brugioni, working with NPIC's photo-interpreters and graphics department, who oversaw its preparation, and the preparation of the associated notes that Lundahl would use to brief Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy, for example. Dino Brugioni was so closely involved with the briefing boards prepared for President Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis that he was able to author an excellent and captivating book about the role of NPIC in that crucial Cold War episode, called Eyeball to Eyeball. Dino Brugioni, therefore, is the ultimate, insider source for what was going on at NPIC during the 1950s and 1960s. He possesses unimpeachable credentials."

"…the event he participated in actually commenced on Saturday evening, November 23rd (rather than Sunday, November 24th, as he had incorrectly estimated for David Wrone in 2003); that it involved the original 8 mm film — not a copy — and that it did not involve either Homer McMahon, or Ben Hunter, or Captain Sands, but an entirely different cast of characters. Furthermore, Dino examined photographs Peter Janney had made at Archives II of the 4 surviving briefing board panels made from the photos developed by Homer McMahon and Ben Hunter, and Brugioni stated categorically that the four panels in flat # 90A in the JFK Records Collection are not the briefing boards he produced while on duty at NPIC;…" P 1230

"…The event began about 10 PM in the evening, when Dino personally met two Secret

Service agents at the entrance to the NPIC, and ended at about 6 or 7 AM the next morning when Brugioni's boss, Art Lundahl (the Director of NPIC), arrived and the briefing boards which Brugioni and the NPIC staff had created were presented to Lundahl, along with the briefing notes Brugioni had prepared. Lundahl then took both sets of briefing boards to the office of CIA Director John McCone,…along with the briefing notes Brugioni had prepared for him; briefed the DCI; and then returned to NPIC later Sunday morning, November 24, and thanked everyone for their efforts the previous night, telling them that his briefing of McCone had gone well. P. 123

"Dino said that Captain Pierre Sands, U.S. Navy, was the Deputy Director of NPIC,

which Peter Janney subsequently confirmed on the internet. Sands' one-page bio states that Pierre N. Sands was born on April 16, 1921, and died on May 26, 2004. He served in the Navy from May 1939-June 1973, and was placed in charge of the Defense Intelligence Agency's Photographic Center after serving at NPIC. His biography on the internet identifies him as a member of the Presidential briefing staff during the Cuban Missile Crisis." P 1232

Horne quotes Brugioni as saying, "'I'm almost sure there were images between the sprocket holes.' During a follow-on interview when Janney tested Dino's firmness of opinion about whether the film was the original or not, Brugioni said definitively: 'I'm sure it was.'"

"…He also said that the Secret Service was vitally interested in timing how many seconds occurred between various frames, and that Ralph Pearse informed them, to their surprise and dismay, that this would be a useless procedure because the Bell and Howell movie camera (that they told him had taken the movie) was a spring-wound camera, with a constantly varying operating speed, and that while he could certainly time the number of seconds between various frames if they so desired, that in his view it was an unscientific and useless procedure which would provide bad data, and lead to false conclusions, or words to that effect. Nevertheless, at the request of the two Secret Service agents, Ralph

Pearse dutifully used a stopwatch to time the number of seconds between various frames of interest to their Secret Service customers. Dino Brugioni said that he placed a strong caveat about the limited, or suspect, usefulness of this timing data in the briefing notes he prepared for Art Lundahl. Brugioni's most vivid recollection of the Zapruder film was '...of JFK's brains flying through the air.'" P 1233

"The obvious implications of the two NPIC Zapruder film events prior to the President's funeral are noted below, in what I shall call a working hypothesis, explaining what I believe likely transpired with the Zapruder film the weekend of the assassination:

• First, the camera original Zapruder film really was slit in Dallas at the Kodak

processing plant after the three 'first day copies' were developed the evening of the

assassination, just as the Kodak employees told Rollie Zavada when he interviewed

them for his authenticity study. On Saturday morning, November 23rd, after the Secret

Service in Washington, D.C. viewed the first day copy (that had been placed on a

commercial airplane in Dallas and sent to Washington, D.C. by Max Phillips late on

Friday evening), they no doubt realized an immediate need for the original film, so that

briefing boards could be made from the clearest possible image frames. [No one would

send a copy of an 8 mm film to NPIC to make briefing boards from—one would obtain

and send the original film.]

• Second, Richard Stolley's recollection that the original film went to LIFE's printing

plant in Chicago on Saturday, November 23rd, for immediate processing, obviously

requires reexamination ….

. Third, the Secret Service and the CIA, obviously working together on the project, must

have rushed the 8 mm camera original film from Washington, D.C. to the "Hawkeye

Plant" in Rochester by air, immediately after Bill Banfield's photo technicians had run

off the last enlargement prints for the McCone briefing boards, just prior to dawn on

Sunday morning. The CIA's Kodak-staffed lab in Rochester would have had most of

the day (probably about 9 or 10 hours), using an optical printer such as the Oxberry

commonly used by Hollywood's special effects wizards, to remove whatever was

objectionable in the film—most likely, the car stop seen by over 50 witnesses in Dealey

Plaza, and the exit debris which would inevitably have been seen in the film leaving the

rear of President Kennedy's head—and to add to the film whatever was desired, such as

a large, painted-on exit wound generally consistent with the enlarged, altered head

wound depicted in the autopsy photos which were developed the day before on Saturday,

November 23rd by Robert Knudsen at NPC Anacostia. Captain Sands, a Naval Officer

who was the Deputy Director at NPIC, was apparently instrumental to those altering the

film in setting up a compartmentalized operation at NPIC, in which workers who had

not participated in the events which commenced Saturday night (with the unaltered, true

camera original film) would be used to create briefing boards from the now-sanitized,

altered film. The delivery of an unslit, 16 mm wide double 8 film to Homer McMahon,

well after dark on Sunday night, is proof that he received an alteration, and not the same

film processed the night before (which was a slit 8 mm film). Furthermore, if the film

worked on by McMahon and Hunter had been the same film worked on the night before,

there would have been no need for a compartmentalized operation, and the same duty

crew that worked on Saturday night could have been called in again. The fact that the

same work crew was not used on Sunday night reveals that a covert operation was afoot.

• Fourth, the three black-and-white, 16 mm unslit versions of the Zapruder film

discovered in 2000 after the LMH Company's film holdings were transferred to the

Sixth Floor Museum, and which both David Wrone and Richard Trask have written

about in their books on the Zapruder film, were almost certainly made from the altered

film after it was manufactured at the "Hawkeye Plant" in Rochester."

. Fifth, three newly minted 'first generation' copies must have been struck from the new

'original' in Rochester before the altered 'original' was flown to Washington, D.C.

Sunday evening for the preparation of the sanitized briefing boards at NPIC. Quite

simply stated, if you are going to alter the original film, you have to manufacture altered

copies as well. [We shall examine the qualities of the three extant 'first generation'

copies later in this chapter to see whether this part of the hypothesis holds up.]

• Sixth, switches obviously must have been made, as soon as possible, with all three 'first

day copies' (which had been made on Friday in Dallas). The FBI, as well, must have

been complicit in this early switchout, since it supposedly made all of its subsequent

second generation copies from the 'first day copy' loaned to it by the Secret Service on

Saturday, November 23rd. Although the FBI may have viewed a first day copy of the

true original film following its arrival in Washington, all second generation FBI copies

in existence today would have been struck after the first day copy was switched out with

its replacement. A Secret Service 'first generation' copy was returned to Dallas by the

FBI on Tuesday, November 26,..."

- Seventh, it is highly likely — a virtual certainty, in my view — that the additional sum of $100,000.00 that LIFE agreed to pay to Abraham Zapruder on Monday, November 25

in a new contract was in reality "hush money,"

- Eighth, and finally, only so much in a film can be altered—there are also things that

cannot be altered. It is my belief that the most damaging information in the film to the

lone assassin hypothesis—the brief car stop on Elm Street in which the President was

clearly killed by a crossfire, by multiple hits to the head from both the front and the rear,

and the frames of exit debris leaving the rear of his skull — were removed at Rochester

when the new 'master' was created. In addition, wounds were painted onto his head

with special effects work which somewhat (but not precisely) resembled the damage

recorded in the autopsy photos after the clandestine surgery at Bethesda Naval hospital.P 1242

Horne concludes: "Because the infamous 'headsnap' back-and-to-the-left could not be removed from the film, the film had to be suppressed as a motion picture, and not shown to the public." P 1244

Kodak's Hawkeye Works – Rochester, New York

"In his 2003 article about the Zapruder film titled: 'Pig On A Leash,' David Lifton

had called the CIA's lab in Rochester 'Hawkeye works.' I am prohibited from directly releasing the term provided to me in 1997 by Homer McMahon, so instead I have used both of these descriptors — obtained from open sources — interchangeably in this chapter. We know that the lab definitely existed in 1963, for Homer McMahon — the former Head of the Color Lab at NPIC — told me about the lab in 1997, and Dino Brugioni confirmed its existence, and its ability to handle the processing of motion picture film, repeatedly in 2009 during his seven interviews with Peter Janney. The name for the facility was still so sensitive in 1997 that the CIA's Historical Review Group had demanded that the ARRB redact from our interview tape the codename used by Homer McMahon during his July 1997 ARRB interview (but not the fact that the facility had existed in 1963). The 'Hawkeye Plant' is of great interest, the reader will recall, because Homer McMahon of NPIC told the ARRB staff that the Zapruder film he handled the weekend of the assassination was delivered to him from that location, where its courier, Secret Service agent 'Bill Smith,' told him it had been developed. Since overwhelming evidence exists that the out-of-camera Zapruder film was developed in Dallas on November 22, 1963 — and not in Rochester, New York on November 24, 1963 — the clear implication of the Homer McMahon testimony (at the present time) is that an altered Zapruder film may have been created at 'Hawkeye works.' The upper management of the ARRB was loathe to inquire with either the CIA or Kodak about the facility…" P 1364

"…In April of 2009. Finally, six months after its preparation began, the AARC's FOIA was mailed.) It, too, requests any and all records pertaining to: (1) the creation of all briefing boards at NPIC the weekend of the assassination; (2) the briefing on the Zapruder film given by NPIC Director Arthur Lundahl to DCI John McCone on November 24, 1963; (3) the processing and/or alteration of the Zapruder film at "Hawkeye works" the weekend of the assassination (if such activity occurred); (4) work done on any and all assassination films by the Federal government outside the city of Dallas, Texas after the assassination of President Kennedy; and (5) those portions of the NPIC history written by Dino Brugioni…" P 1377

While the idea that the Zapruder film was at the CIA's supersecret lab at Hawkeye Works stems from the Secret Service Agent "Bill Smith," likely an alias, this wasn't just any person, but someone with the Secret Service, someone who had access to the equally supersecret NPIC, and someone with the original and/or a first generation copy of the Zapruder film.

Why isn't there any record of this person and this event?

Just as Adele Edisen's story called attention to Col. Jose Rivera and Secret Service Agent in Charge of the New Orleans office John W. Rice, giving researchers years of research that is still incomplete, "Bill Smith" and Homer McMahon give us a lead that if true, will completely rewrite the history of the Zapruder film.

Was the Zapruder film at the Hawkeye Works?

And why is the very name and existence of the Hawkeye Works still a national security secret?

[Len Colby]

DAVID,

You keep referring to the Livinstone interview with Zavada as if it proves something but never quote the passages which supposedly prove something which leads me to conclude you're just exhaling a cloud of fine particles suspended in a gas from between your legs.

well Len, perhaps you should break loose a few bucks and buy the book, eh? Show some real support for the Lone Nut, SBT, non Z-film alteration crowd. Time to keep up.

The HOAX of the Century

Decoding the Forgery of the Zapruder Film

by

Harrison Livingstone

copyright2004

ISBN 1-4120-4462-6

"A few bucks"? Try more like over 100, $87.50 plus shipping to Brazil. A bit steep for an obscure self-published book by an obscure author with no known credentials the field. But if you want to send it to mefor X-mas I'll PM you my address.

You get it do you David? It is up to you to document your claims not up to others to purchase over price books no one wants to buy,you say Zavada's own words undermine him,fine then show us the beef.

when you're done with the above perhaps Doug Horne's 13 year undertaking will whet your appetite for detailed discussion...

Amazing after 13 years research he still doesn't know Zavada wrote 2nd report.

[Len Colby]

Kodak Corona

Ray wrote: I think Doug is taking an enormous leap here. Homer and Ben NOW say that Smith SAID the film had been developed in Rochester. Apart from the memory issues, if the film had really been clandestinely processed in Rochester (when the official story has it processed in Dallas) Smith would have to be a foolish conspirator indeed to spill the beans to Ben & Homer. Of course Smith and the film could both be legit, with Smith simply having been misinformed about where the film was processed. I hope Doug has something a helluva better than this to support the theory of Z-film alteration, assuming that is part of his book.

"I know of no. Kodachrome processing available at Hawkeye (an equipment division)" - Roland Zavada

Bill splitting hairs perhaps but there was nothing in you over long post about a secret lab, though I imagine the satellite film was developed at a top secret section of the larger lab. This however doesn't help you very much, the film they developed was 70mm black and white Mylar negative film i.e. it was nothing like Zappy's 16mm (double8) Kodachrome polyester color movie (i.e.positive) film. Kodachrome developing is a very complex process that can only be done at a few labs. You might as well claim it was developed at the CIA's secret car wash

Edited December 10, 2009 by Len Colby

[Dean Hagerman]

by an obscure author

Have you ever heard of "High Treason" ?

Have you ever heard of "High Treason 2" ?

Do the words best seller mean anything to you Len?

"High Treason" is one of the best books of all time on the assassination

I cant believe you didnt know that

[Michael Hogan]

Doug Horne is scheduled to appear on Len Osanic's excellent Black Op Radio program tomorrow night.

http://www.blackopradio.com/schedule.html

[Craig Lamson]

by an obscure author

Have you ever heard of "High Treason" ?

Have you ever heard of "High Treason 2" ?

Do the words best seller mean anything to you Len?

"High Treason" is one of the best books of all time on the assassination

I cant believe you didnt know that

Thanks for making Lens point. The Zap book was a vanity publication. What? No reputable publisher willing to print it?

Edited December 9, 2009 by Craig Lamson

[John Bevilaqua]

Nice! You mean there really was "A CONSPIRACY?"

Well, OK fine! We all knew that since 1963-1964.

So.... Who dunnit and why are the only questions worth answering!

1) Who executed the plot, who covered it up and who financed it? And who went to the Adolphus Hotel to celebrate afterwards?

- Robert Morris, Charles Willoughby and William Potter Gale

- The Hearst Syndicates, Gannett News, NANA and the Chicago Sun-Times Syndicate

- Wickliffe Draper

- Robert Morris and Charles Willoughby

2) Who were two obvious examples of persons who came into GIGANTIC pools of money shortly thereafter?

- Rev. Gerald L K Smith

- Wickliffe Draper

3) Who was overheard discussing the plot, the pending payoff and how Marina Oswald was reacting to it in Winnipeg, Manitoba?

- Rev. Gerald L K Smith

- Friends of Wickliffe Draper

- Anastase Vonsiatsky

- Friends of Jaroslaw Stetsko

4) Who played some of the the same roles in the coup against FDR?

- Wickliffe Draper

- Gerald MacGuire

- J. P. Morgan

- Anastase Vonsiatsky

5) Who has any more questions?

Edited December 9, 2009 by John Bevilaqua

[Dean Hagerman]

by an obscure author

Have you ever heard of "High Treason" ?

Have you ever heard of "High Treason 2" ?

Do the words best seller mean anything to you Len?

"High Treason" is one of the best books of all time on the assassination

I cant believe you didnt know that

Thanks for making Lens point. The Zap book was a vanity publication. What? No reputable publisher willing to print it?

Making his point or pointing out that Len knows nothing about Livingstone or for that matter two books that every student of the assassination sans you and Len own or at least read "High Treason" and "High Treason 2"

Edited December 10, 2009 by Dean Hagerman

[Len Colby]

by an obscure author

Have you ever heard of "High Treason" ?

Have you ever heard of "High Treason 2" ?

Do the words best seller mean anything to you Len?

"High Treason" is one of the best books of all time on the assassination

I cant believe you didnt know that

Yes Dean he wrote or co-wrote 2 books that spent a total of 13 weeks on the NY Times paperback nonfiction best sellers list but that was almost 20 years ago around the time of the buzz over Stone's JFK. Now he has to self publish and the Amazon.com Sales Ranks of his books is in the #326,049 - #1,431,848 so "obscure author" was a fair characterization.

[Craig Lamson]

by an obscure author

Have you ever heard of "High Treason" ?

Have you ever heard of "High Treason 2" ?

Do the words best seller mean anything to you Len?

"High Treason" is one of the best books of all time on the assassination

I cant believe you didnt know that

Thanks for making Lens point. The Zap book was a vanity publication. What? No reputable publisher willing to print it?

Making his point or pointing out that Len knows nothing about Livingstone or for that matter two books that every student of the assassination sans you and Len own or at least read "High Treason" and "High Treason 2"

He knows that Livingstone was reduced to self publishing his last book with a vanity publisher. Hardly the thing a "best selling" author should ever need to do. Wonder why?

[Jack White]

RFK Was Working with LIFE magazine to "Take Down" LBJ in November of 1963

November 11th, 9:07

A former editor of LIFE magazine has just provided explosive information, in November of 2009, that indicates the Attorney General of the United States, Robert F. Kennedy, was working with LIFE in November of 1963 to bring down Vice President Lyndon Johnson and ruin his political career, so that his brother, President Kennedy, could replace LBJ as his running mate in 1964. I include this information in my blog because it confirms a central thesis of my book, which is that LBJ willingly participated in a large domestic conspiracy to assassinate JFK in order to avoid his own political ruin. I do not view LBJ as the mastermind of any assassination plot, but I do view him as a crucial "enabler," whose cooperation was essential to both covering up the assassination, and to enacting the policy changes desired by the assassination cabal within the national security establishment.

Earlier this month, James Wagenvoord (who in 1963 was the 27 year old Editorial business manager and an assistant to LIFE magazine's Executive Editor) contacted John Simkin, who runs the website Education Forum, with the following revelation. According to Wagenvoord, "Beginning in late summer 1963 the magazine, based upon information fed from Bobby Kennedy and the Justice Department, had been developing a major newsbreak piece concerning Johnson and Bobby Baker. On publication Johnson would have been finished and off the '64 ticket (reason the material was fed to us) and would probably have been facing prison time. At the time LIFE magazine was arguably the most important general news source in the U.S. The top management of Time, Inc. was closely allied with the USA's various intelligence agencies and we were used...by the Kennedy Justice Department as a conduit to the public...The LBJ/Baker piece was in the final editing stages and was scheduled to break in the issue of the magazine due out the week of November 24 (the magazine would have made it to the newsstands on Nov. 26th or 27th). It had been prepared in relative secrecy by a small special editorial team. On Kennedy's death research files and all numbered copies of the nearly print-ready draft were gathered up by my boss (he had been the top editor on the team) and shredded. The issue that was to expose LBJ instead featured the Zapruder film. Based upon our success in syndicating the Zapruder film I became Chief of Time/LIFE editorial services and remained in that job until 1968." [emphasis added by me]

John Simkin of the Education Forum shared this information with author Sterling Seagrove. Seagrove (who was on the Washington Post staff for four years) wrote: "It was Phil Graham [publisher of the newspaper] who persuaded JFK to ensure his victory in the election by taking LBJ as his running mate, although JFK detested LBJ as one of the most corrupt men in D.C." Seagrove explained that the newspaper "was getting a steady feed of White House leaks that enabled Larry [stern] to do a long series of exposes on the corporations LBJ was so intimately tied to (Ling-Temko-Vought, and many others). It was my understanding that JFK hoped these astounding revelations would ultimately force LBJ to resign the vice-presidency in disgrace."

My analysis:

First, we now have an insider from LIFE who confirms the longstanding rumors that the top management of Time, Inc. [read: C.D. Jackson and Henry Luce] were closely linked to the U.S. intelligence establishment, and did their bidding from time to time. Public opinion is all too often molded and generated by the major media organs in the United States, and this proves that point.

Second, the fact that the President's brother, RFK (in his role as Attorney General), was engineering the public destruction of LBJ, provided LBJ with a strong motive to participate in an assassination plot hatched by others. [seagrove informed Simkin that this was a poorly kept secret and that he is sure LBJ knew what was going on.]

Third, the proposed timing of the revelations (the week after JFK's Dallas trip) indicates to me how well the Kennedys were managing the news---arranging for the release of the expose on Lyndon Johnson only AFTER THE NOVEMBER 1963 TEXAS TRIP WAS OVER.

Fourth, as documented in my forthcoming book (in Chapter 14), it is clear that LIFE purchased the motion picture rights to the Zapruder film on Monday, November 25th, 1963 so that the film could be suppressed as a motion picture. After paying an additional $100,000.00 for the film on Monday (beyond the $50,000.00 for print rights that they had paid the previous Saturday), Time, Inc. never once permitted the public use of the film as a motion picture, for profit, thus confirming that the real intent of Time, Inc. in repurchasing it was suppression.

Fifth, no doubt C.D. Jackson (LIFE's publisher, and a CIA asset) and Henry B. Luce (editorial head of the Time, Inc. empire, and an avowed enemy of JFK) were involved in BOTH the decision not to run the LBJ expose after the assassination, AND to repurchase the Zapruder film for purposes of its suppression as a motion picture. Unfortunately, it seems that the Kennedy brothers' desire to delay publishing the LBJ expose until after the Texas trip was unwise, for it allowed the timing of the assassination to precede the publication of the article, thus ensuring that it would never see the light of day. So it now seems that LIFE not only suppressed the Zapruder film as a motion picture, but also prevented the ruin of LBJ by literally shredding its expose of the new President, immediately after JFK's assassination.

Sixth, it seems likely to me that because of Henry B. Luce's hatred of JFK and his policies, he (or C.D. Jackson) likely tipped off LBJ about the impending expose. Luce was undoubtedly playing both sides of the fence, with the Kennedy brothers the losers. The true story of the deep politics in America in 1963 is not an uplifting one, but we need to face it head on, if we are to understand our real history, and regain our self respect as as a people.

Seventh: Phil Graham's opinion that it was his suggestion that caused JFK to place LBJ on the ticket in1960 is erroneous, and evidence of "the illusion of centrality" exhibited by most participants in historical events. JFK's secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, made clear in a filmed interview in 1993 (aired on Frontline, in "The Secret File on J.Edgar Hoover") that it was really blackmail, using Hoover's secret documentation on Senator Kennedy's womanizing, that put LBJ on the ticket. Furthermore, the myth that JFK needed LBJ on the ticket to win the South, and would not have won without him on the ticket, was discredited long ago; JFK carried part of the South in spite of LBJ, who barely carried his own state of Texas in the 1960 election.

Eighth, and Finally: LBJ's knowledge that RFK was actively seeking his public ruin, via LIFE magazine, helps to better explain the great animus between the two men after LBJ assumed the Presidency.

So let us ask the obvious rhetorical question: why didn't we hear about this during the 1960s? The answer was provided to us hundreds of years ago.

Englishman John Harrison once said: "Treason doth never prosper. What's the reason? If it does, none dare call it treason."

Chapters 15 and 16 of my book, Inside the Assassination Records Review Board, detail the corruption of Lyndon Johnson and his likely participation in the JFK assassination plot as an "enabler" necessary to its success. JFK's death was clearly a consensus decision by the national security establishment, and its operational details were conceived and carried out by individuals within the CIA, but LBJ's cooperation was essential, and this new information, courageously provided by Mr. Wagenvoord and by Mr. Seagrove, provides us with additional information on LBJ's motivation to participate in such a plot. He did it to save his own political skin, and to avoid disgrace and a jail sentence, as I explain in my book. Now we know how very, very close Lyndon Baines Johnson came to utter ruin (and the jail sentence predicted by his own grandmother). The government would not have hesitated to indict a broken LBJ, once he had been disgraced and resigned from office as Vice President. And the planned expose in LIFE---the week after the Dallas trip---would have ensured LBJ's disgrace and political ruin. Now we know how very, very close LBJ came to utter destruction in late 1963. (Article by Doug Horne) END

[Jack White]

Harry Livingstone has self-published several books. He is a control freak and does

not like editors and publishers telling him what to do. This avoids the hassle of

dealing with an outside publisher. Self publication allows printing small quantities

at a time, avoiding huge publication costs.

Harry's Zapruder tome is too lengthy (unlike Bugliosi's) for mainline publishers. It is

NOT aimed at GENERAL PUBLIC, but rather at the research community. There is

nothing wrong with self-publishing. Bugliosi's book was published at a loss, likely

by the CIA.

Also, his Zapruder work is not a VANITY publication. It publishes research, not

information about himself. A vanity book is generally published about an author

or company.

Jack

[Dean Hagerman]

by an obscure author

Have you ever heard of "High Treason" ?

Have you ever heard of "High Treason 2" ?

Do the words best seller mean anything to you Len?

"High Treason" is one of the best books of all time on the assassination

I cant believe you didnt know that

Yes Dean he wrote or co-wrote 2 books that spent a total of 13 weeks on the NY Times paperback nonfiction best sellers list but that was almost 20 years ago around the time of the buzz over Stone's JFK. Now he has to self publish and the Amazon.com Sales Ranks of his books is in the #326,049 - #1,431,848 so "obscure author" was a fair characterization.

WRONG!

"High Treason" was released in 1989

How was there "Buzz" over Stones JFK that was released in 1991?

You have no idea what you are talking about do you?

Read Jacks post, Livingstone is a control freak, thats why he wrote "High Treason 2" alone without Groden

[Craig Lamson]

Also, his Zapruder work is not a VANITY publication. It publishes research, not

information about himself. A vanity book is generally published about an author

or company.

Jack

Once again Jack has his head where the sun don't shine....

"The US National Endowment for the Arts, in its instructions to applicants defines vanity press "as one that does any of the following: requires individual writers to pay for part or all of the publication costs; asks writers to buy or sell copies of the publication; publishes the work of anyone who subscribes to the publication or joins the organization through membership fees; publishes the work of anyone who buys an advertisement in the publication; publishes work without competitive selection; or publishes work without professional editing."[3]

A vanity press will generally agree to print and bind any author's work if the author is willing to pay for the service; these fees typically form a vanity press's profits. However, online on-demand printers also fit this definition as they publish without competitive selection."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_press