Guest Robert Morrow Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) From cfr.org Fifty Years On, What JFK Did, and Didn't, Achieve Interview with Robert Dallek January 21, 2011 http://www.cfr.org/publication/23852/fifty_years_on_what_jfk_did_and_didnt_achieve.html Dallek, of course, doesn't have much credibility with Education Forum members. I called up Robert Dallek one day a few years ago. He said, "Young man, there was no conspiracy." ... and "Have you read Bugliosi's book?" I tried to bring up just a few points such as Madeleine Duncan Brown's revelations. Dallek quickly hung up the phone. I would estimate a 2-3 minute phone call. As far as I am concerned, Robert Dallek is an ignoramus and fool. He is not "officially" in the Council on Foreign Relations, but he might as well be. Much like Christopher Matthews. As for Robert Dallek, any biographer of presidents in the 1960's who has not figured out that the JFK Assassination was a full blown coup d'etat is a fool. Kind of like being the world's greatest expert on .... nothing. Edited January 22, 2011 by Robert Morrow
Michael Hogan Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 According to Robert Kennedy's son Max Kennedy, who controls access to his father's papers which are housed at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Robert Dallek was one of a few biographers that have been granted full access to those papers. Dallek "said he could not recall how much access he was granted, referring the question to library staff. Library director Thomas J. Putnam said those authors were granted limited access — not the full public scrutiny that researchers now seek." From boston.com: By Brian Bender January 23, 2011 A dark corner of Camelot 50 years after President Kennedy asked his brother Robert to oust Castro, RFK’s files at the JFK Library remain in family control, largely out of view. Excerpt: Stacked in a vault at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum in Dorchester, individually sealed and labeled, are 54 crates of records so closely guarded that even the library director is prohibited from taking a peek. And yet, archivists contend, the trove contains some of the most important records of Cold War history: diaries, notes, phone logs, messages, trip files, and other documents from Robert F. Kennedy’s service as US attorney general, including details about his roles in the Cuban missile crisis and as coordinator of covert efforts to overthrow or assassinate Fidel Castro. A half-century after those critical events, a behind-the-scenes tussle continues over the Kennedy family’s refusal to grant permission for researchers to freely review them. The disagreement lingers even as the JFK Library this month celebrated the 50th anniversary of John Kennedy’s inauguration by providing “unprecedented’’ access to thousands of records of his presidency. "The RFK papers are among the most valuable, untapped archival resources of foreign policy and domestic history left to be excavated," said Peter Kornbluh, a senior analyst at George Washington University’s National Security Archive, who has been rebuffed several times in his attempts to gain access to the papers. "This history is immediately relevant to the ongoing debate over US policy toward Cuba," he added. “I look forward to the day — hopefully sooner than later — that access to the RFK papers contributes to advancing that debate..." Full story: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/01/23/kennedy_family_limiting_access_to_rfk_documents/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Top+political+stories
Guest Robert Morrow Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Robert Dallek is very close to the Council on Foreign Relations. There is no group that has done more to murder John Kennedy and cover it up for 50 years than the Council on Foreign Relations. The odds are very high that Nelson Rockefeller, Allen Dulles and George Herbert Walker Bush, and possibly Henry Kissinger (top aide to Nelson Rockefeller) were elite sponsors of the 1963 Coup d'Etat. The rest of the CFR has been totalitarian in support of the indefensible "lone nutter theory." It is a classic case of the emperor has no clothes and all these fine townspeople of the CFR and Bilderberg feel compelled to make laughable defenses of the JFK assassination as a "lone nut" event. Remember, the CFR is a self-selected, limited membership "club" of perhaps 5,000 networkers so they INTENTIONALLY select people who will lie - wittingly or not - about the JFK assassination. Robert Dallek displays his incredible ignorance regarding the true nature of the JFK assassination: "Unimpeded by any law enforcement agency and animated by possibly nothing more than resentment against a symbol of the authority, success, and fame he craved and could never hope to achieve, Oswald fired three shots from the sixth-floor window of the Depository building at the president riding directly below in an open car. The second bullet struck Kennedy in the back of the neck. Were it not for a back brace, which held him erect, a third and fatal shot to the back of the head would not have found its mark. At 1:00 P.M. central time, half an hour after the attack, doctors at Dallas's Parkland Hospital told Mrs. Kennedy that the president was dead." --Robert Dallek, AN UNFINISHED LIFE--JOHN F. KENNEDY 1917-1963 (New York: Little, Brown and Company, 2003), p. 694. Edited January 25, 2011 by Robert Morrow
Guest Robert Morrow Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 I have spoken often about the radioactive amounts of horse manure that comes of out the Council on Foreign relations in regards to the JFK assassination. All you have to do is look at the leadership and steering committee of the CFR, especially 30-40 years ago, and you will find elite sponsors of the JFK assassination (Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, George Herbert Walker Bush in my opinion) and dozens, legions of lesser people who have covered up the JFK assassation. They fall into 3 categories: 1) lone nutters, 2)those who make the fantastic assertions that Castro killed Kennedy and even a 3) few who say the RUSSIANS murdered John Kennedy! And these propaganda artists do this year after year, decade after decade no matter HOW MUCH evidence comes out that the JFK assassination was the ultimate "inside job" and that JFK was murdered by his own government and shadow government. ARNOLD DE BORCHGRAVE (CFR) Here is Arnold de Borchgrave's (CFR) endorsement of Programmed to Kill: Lee Harvey Oswald, the Soviet KGB, and the Kennedy Assassination by Ion Mihai Pacepa: Meticulously detailed....Covers all the bases left open by government investigations and the hundreds of book published on the assassination. " http://www.amazon.com/Programmed-Kill-Harvey-Kennedy-Assassination/dp/1566637619/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1297913482&sr=1-2 The CFR has been totalitarian, and so laughably WRONG, in its position on the JFK assassination and I think that makes a solid prima facie case for CFR involvement in the 1963 Coup d'Etat.
Guest Robert Morrow Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Jonathan Alter (CFR) - check out his ignorant comments below on the movie JFK from the year 1998. CFR stands "Can't Freely Relate" the truth about the JFK assassination. The CFR never ceases to amaze me with their fantastically ignorant and totalitarian view of the 1963 Coup. The CIA and CFR have been heavily intertwined for decades. The CFR's outrageous behavior on this topic is one reason I am so convinced that inner core CFR members Allen Dulles, McGeorge Bundy, George Herbert Walker Bush and Nelson Rockefeller were all involved in the JFK assassination. Possibly even Henry Kissinger who in 1963 was extremely close to Nelson Rockefeller and who had a working relationship with McGeorge Bundy. After all that has come out the past 10 years on the JFK assassination, I wonder if these media talking heads will be so bold as their previous statements in the 1990's (CFR George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Jonathan Alter et alia, I am talking about you.) http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jfkmovie.htm Jonathan Alter (CFR) had some interesting comments on "JFK" in the 1998 "A Century of the Movies" Special Issue of Newsweek, p. 70. "Woodrow Wilson was wrong when he said in 1915 that movies were "like writing history with lightening" . . . The movie to which Wilson was referring was D.W. Griffith's "The Birth of a Nation," one of the first feature-length films and a tremendously innovative picture. But the film reinforced crude racist stereotypes and glorified the Ku Klux Klan . . . . More than three quarters of a century later, Oliver Stone's "JFK" — departing wildly from demonstrable historical fact — provides its own form of reactive history. Stone claims he's simply engaged in creative "countermyth," but like Griffith, he is actually pandering, this time to the conspiracy mongers who dominate public perception of the Kennedy assassination. The truly brave film would be about Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone."
Guest Robert Morrow Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Another member of the Council on Foreign Relation is Caroline Bouvier Kennedy, the daughter of JFK. When was the last time you saw Caroline Kennedy ever say anything credible about the JFK assassination? Never. I think perhaps Caroline Kennedy was recruited into the CFR so "they," the CIA/CFR establishment, could co-opt her. Keep her quiet and controlled and keep close ideological tabs on her. The Kennedy family has been more concerned with its status in society and political viability than seeking truth in the JFK assassination. After RFK was killed, Ted Kennedy got the family together and told them we are not going to talk publicly about the JFK and RFK assassinations. And for the most part, the family has stuck to that advice/edict. This list says JFK was a CFR member, but he really was not. JFK gave a speech in 1957 claiming to be a member, but he was not. Kennedy was opposed and disliked by much of the Rockefeller controlled CFR. And he really did not have good connections there as Arthur Schlesinger pointed out. George F. Kennan BB/CFR Kenneth Keniston CFR/92 Christopher J. Kennan CFR/92 Elizabeth T. Kennan CFR George Frost Kennan CFR/92 Caroline Bouvier Kennedy CFR Craig Kennedy CFR David Matthew Kennedy CFR/92 David W. Kennedy CFR/85 Donald Stanford Kennedy CFR/85 Edward Kennedy Jr. CFR John F. Kennedy (US President unlisted) CFR Paul Kennedy CFR/92 Randall L. Kennedy CFR/84 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall2.htm This such a fabulous quote by Schlesinger that tells us the real story of the CFR and JFK. Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., in his book on the Kennedy presidency, A Thousand Days, wrote that Kennedy was not part of what he called the "New York establishment": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations "In particular, he was little acquainted with the New York financial and legal community-- that arsenal of talent which had so long furnished a steady supply of always orthodox and often able people to Democratic as well as Republican administrations. This community was the heart of the American Establishment. Its household deities were Henry Stimson and Elihu Root; its present leaders, Robert Lovett and John J. McCloy; its front organizations, the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations and the Council on Foreign Relations; its organs, the New York Times and Foreign Affairs."[11] Edited March 19, 2012 by Robert Morrow
David Josephs Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Robert... You post as if the CFR was created RECENTLY to deal with JFK... The fact of the matter is the CFR had been around in other forms for a lot longer... That the members of this Council intersect with all of the attacks JFK was about to wage on the "elite" is no big stretch... and once it is understood what the purpose of the CFR was, and what Morgan and friends did thru the council... it is again, no big stretch that this group promotes Oswald the Lone Nut. If anyone reading this post has not yet read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" I believe you are missing out on a basis for understanding why we are where we are today. Unless one understrands Colonel House and WHY a central bank was so important and HOW it was accomplished... maybe those questioning a conspiracy will learn a thing or two... http://www.kamron.com/none_dare_call_it_conspiracy.htm "At the end of the war of 1914, it became clear that the organization of this system [the Round Table Group] had to be greatly extended. Once again the task was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing Round Table Group. This front organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American Round Table Group. The American organizers were dominated by the large number of Morgan 'experts,' … who had gone to the Paris Peace Conference and there became close friends with the similar group of English 'experts' which had been recruited by the Milner group. In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations [C.F.R.] were drawn up in Paris… Joseph Kraft (C.F.R.), however, tells us in Harper's of July 1958, that the chief agent in the formal founding of the Council on Foreign Relations was "Colonel" House, supported by such proteg6s as Walter Lippmann, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles and Christian Herter. It was House who acted as host for the Round Table Group, both English and American, at the key meeting of May 19, 1919, in the Majestic Hotel, Paris, which committed the conspiracy to creation of the C.F.R. Although Quigley stresses the importance of Morgan men at the creation of the organization known as the Council on Foreign Relations, this organization's own materials and "Colonel" House's own memoirs reveal his function as midwife at the birth of the C.F.R.
Guest Robert Morrow Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 My point is the Council on Foreign Relations inner circle - folks like Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, Henry Kissinger, George Herbert Walker Bush - has for decades been US intelligence dominated. The CIA (and LBJ) killed JFK. So the CIA, "US intelligence," has used the Council on Foreign Relations as an Operation Mockingbird Wurlitzer to cover up the JFK assassination. It has been one of their top agenda items for 48 years. Of course, it has been around since the teens.
David Josephs Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 My point is the Council on Foreign Relations inner circle - folks like Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, Henry Kissinger, George Herbert Walker Bush - has for decades been US intelligence dominated. The CIA (and LBJ) killed JFK. So the CIA, "US intelligence," has used the Council on Foreign Relations as an Operation Mockingbird Wurlitzer to cover up the JFK assassination. It has been one of their top agenda items for 48 years. Of course, it has been around since the teens. I hear you Robert.... and I agree to an extent... I believe you place too much "top of mind importance" to the cover up of JFK... If the dog craps on the carpet and you beat the snot out of the dog... he's going to think twice about doing it again... The CFR and its power has already beaten the snot out of anyone seriously attempting to bring to light, in Historical Context, the assassination... It's not like they have to fake their influence either... these are the "status quo" boys to the world and "the new world order" to each other... Robert... are you really expecting the King's court to tell him he's naked - to his face?
Guest Robert Morrow Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 David, I am glad you brought that up. The tale of "The Emperor's New Clothes" is key to understanding the cover up of the JFK assassination. The cover up is about the tyranny of power. In fact, the cover up of the JFK assassination makes is prima facie proof that the murder of JFK was authorized at the highest levels of American government and American business executives. The Emperor's New Clothes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes
Guest Tom Scully Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) (Background info is displayed just a few posts back..... http://educationforu...=15#entry215838 ) Sisterhood of spies: the women of the OSS - Google Books Result books.google.com/books?isbn=1557505985...Elizabeth P. McIntosh - 1998 - Biography & Autobiography - 282 pages ....Reports of the buzz-bomb attacks caused more concern in the United States than they did in London. The parents of two women working for the Security Branch cabled the American embassy in London to have their daughters returned to the States. One was One was Priscilla Johnson, whose father was in the State Department; the other was Mary Norris, who later married James Symington. Both women refused to be sent home. Symington, then twenty-two, said she wanted to stay and defied her parents' wishes. David Bruce, OSS London chief at that time, wrote that he "considered the request disgraceful — as well as placing the girls in an invidious position.... In the last few years, Wing Sommers Blake, daughter of two CIA agents and the ex-wife of the current U.S. Assistant Secretary of State who is named after his Rockefeller family connected father, Robert O. Blake. Blake Sr., the former father-in-law of Wing Sommers, married in 1956 Sylvia Whitehouse, the sister of CIA agent and U.S. Ambassador Charles Whitehouse. Charles Whitehouse was U.S. ambassador to Laos at the exact two year span as British Ambassador Allan Davidson. Priscilla Johnson McMillan was an attendant of Davidson's wife, in their wedding. ...In 1956, career U.S. diplomat, Robert O. Gates married CIA's Charles S. Whitehouse's sister, Sylvia. My last post here details the names of the ushers in the 1955 wedding of CIA's Albert Bradley Carter, Jr., including known CIA Thomas Devine and Andre Rheault, later named CIA Edwin Curtiss "Buff" Bohlen, as well as Charles and Sylvia Whitehouse's first cousin, Alexander Aldrich, Henry Brunie's stepson, Charles Hubbard, Henry Cabot of Boston, and best man, later linked to the CIA by PD Scott, W. Palmer Dixon. Henry Cabot was also an usher in the Alexander Aldrich's wedding. So, the wedding of Sylvia Whitehouse is also noteworthy because hers and her brother Charles' mother is the sister of Alexander Aldrich's mother. Besides Edward Freers and CIA's Andre Rheault and Charles Whitehouse, another usher in the Sylvia Whitehouse-Robert O. Gates wedding is J. Woodward Redmond, son-in-law of Winthrop Aldrich and brother-in-law of his son, Alexander Aldrich. John McCloy was the Rockefeller family lawyer and he had taken the position at Chase bank formerly held by Winthrop Aldrich. Just a month befor the 1956 Gates-Whitehouse wedding, Edward Freers was also an usher in the wedding of Stuart Wesson Rockwell, the U.S. Ambassador in Tehran in 1953, during the Mossadegh coup. Other ushers in Rockwell's wedding were Marshall Green, U.S. Ambassador in Indonesia, who reportedly took an active role in the "emergence" of General Suharto, and D. Chadwick Braggiotti, a U.S. diplomat whose sister was married to the brother of Henry Cabot Lodge.:... Wing Sommers is now married to this man.: Czechoslovakia's Wall Street Brigade - New York Times www.nytimes.com › COLLECTIONS › PRAGUE Jun 21, 1992 – said Alistair Keith, a 45-year-old former partner at Brown Brothers Harriman. .... He proceeded to set up Crimson Capital (after his alma mater, ... http://www.praguepos...ure-abuses.html Privatization Loopholes May Allow Future Abuses Posted: August 25, 1992 By Nemessanyi, Tereza .......The US government team, funded by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and known as the Crimson Capital Corp., assists the ministry in deciding on privatization projects involving foreign bidders. The 10 to 15 members of Crimson Capital, drawn mostly from Wall Street investment firms, provide their expertise in banking and finance to the negotiating process. The group's high turnover is illustrated by a comparison of Crimson employment lists from April and July. During that period, four out of 15 investment bankers left the group, a rate of nearly 30 percent. 'This project is not organized on the basis of long-term assistance,' said a USAID official in Washington. 'It is normal to have a high turnover rate. The short-termer costs less, and can provide more specialized information.' Given the high turnover normally associated with foreign government-contracted expertise, though, the confidentiality declaration's omission could allow otherwise proprietary information to leave the ministry through the short-termers' revolving door. USAID members have access to privatization projects, business plans, financial statements, valuations, environmental audits, marketing studies, social policies, contracts, and all other relevant information required to select a foreign partner for a local company. They are also privy to a sale's final terms, which are kept out of the public domain to allow the National Property Fund to command higher bids on future projects. '[Advisors] have access to all the files - there are no controls,' said one banker, speaking on the condition of anonymity. He added that the setup provides a motivation for the advisors to leave the ministry. 'There appears to be more control in a bank setting,' he said. 'If I were a manager of privatization, I would be worried.' Members of the Crimson Capital team rejected the implication, saying the knowledge that they have at their disposal is not commercially useful to them as investment bankers. '[The information] is going to be old and stale,' said Mart Bakal, who heads the Crimson Capital team. '[some information] is already six months to a year old.' 'When we get involved, there's already a buyer and a seller,' Bakal said. 'After they leave here, there is no more work for us to do.' The advisors say that a confidentiality agreement extending beyond the time of employment is unnecessary. Analysts who work closely with the process say that the potential for advisors to abuse their position exists. One banker outside the group noted that in a recent highly contested sale each foreign bidder was required to provide the ministry with very detailed marketing plans as part of their overall bid. 'These plans are very valuable to anyone within an industry,' the banker said, even after a deal has been closed. The banker suggested that the combination of open access to privileged information - 'motivations of transience' - and a lack of controls at the ministry is a formula which could ultimately harm the goals of the ministry. 'That's bad,' said Peter Bernat of the International Executive Service Corporation (IESC). "It shows that our system has some holes which are not covered properly, and that the system is not 100 percent properly managed." Comparable US government programs, such as IESC, require their participants to sign a contract with a confidentiality clause upon starting work. Its executives are not allowed to disclose any proprietary information they obtain 'to promote any private interest' during their term of work or afterward 'without written prior consent of the local enterprise.' While the IESC has a standard document with a confidentiality clause for all of its projects, USAID does not. This leaves the responsibility for confidentiality up to the sponsoring institution, in this case the privatization ministry.... NSIAD-94-61 Eastern Europe: AID's Indefinite Contracts Assist ... pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAA385.pdfFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View International Executive Service Corps. KRC Research (Sayer/Miller Group). Milbank, Tweed, Hadley. Crimson Capital. Hogan and Hartson. State Street Bank .. The first time Alistar Keith married, observe who he chose to be at his side.: Jay Teagle and Alastair Keith, Banker, Are Married in Church in ... www.nytimes.com/.../jay-teagle-and-alastair-keith-banker-are-marrie... May 1, 1983 – Jay Teagle and Alastair Keith, Banker, Are Married in Church in Palm Beach. Published: ... John J. McCloy 2d served as best man. Mrs. Keith... In Fraud Case, Middlemen in Spotlight - NYTimes.com www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/business/17hedge.html?pagewanted... Dec 16, 2008 – For Fairfield Greenwich and a handful of other big feeder funds that were essentially pouring billions of dollars each into Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities, ... after several thin years,” wrote John J. McCloy, a banker from Greenwich ... Laura, as the Noels' “best friends for more than 30 years,” in May in ... Country Club Revokes Membership Of Madoff Feeder Noel Family ... articles.businessinsider.com/.../30058407_1_tipster-reports-guest-jur... May 12, 2009 – Although the legal jury is still out as to culpability of the Noel family and its Fairfield Greenwich Group in Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme, the "What are the odds that Mimi Alford's best friend, Marion Stuart Pillsbury, is the first person she claims she told the details of her 1960's affair with JFK, circa 1991 when Stuart Pillsbury just happens to begin a position she has held now for more than two decades, executive director of the David Rockefeller Fund, and that Hallett Johnson happened to belong to the same intimate little club in Bar Harbor, ME., of John D. Rockefeller, Jr., and sons Nelson and David Rockefeller, and that the parents of Peter Matthiessen and George Plimpton Paris Review partner, John PC Train, who also happened to employ Thomas Devine, was the son of Arthur C. Train, who also happened to be well acquainted with Hallett Johnson?" I don't think its a coincidence. I think we all got taken again. Great work Tom. http://www.legacy.co...d&pid=151084916 L. PHILIP EWALD EWALD--L. Philip, died at the age of 91 in Greenwich, CT, on May 8, 2011. A graduate of Groton School and Yale, he served as an Officer in Naval Intelligence during WWII. After a long career in publishing management, he joined Frank Pace, Jr. and David Rockefeller to build and expand the International Executive Service Corps. to 150 countries. Married for 57 years to Elizabeth Johnston Ewald, who predeceased him, he is survived by their two sons, Duncan and Douglass.... OBITUARIES; J. Symington, Smithsonian Executive, Dies The Washington Post (1974-Current file). Washington, D.C.: Jul 9, 1992. James McKim Symington, 72, chief fund-raiser for the Smithsonian Institution during a period of expansion in the 1970s and 1980s, died of lung cancer July 8 at Georgetown University Hospital. Mary Norris, James Symington Married in Afternoon Ceremony The Washington Post (1923-1954). Washington, D.C.: Aug 24, 1945. the World War II diaries of Colonel David K.E. Bruce books.google.com David Kirkpatrick Este Bruce, Nelson D. Lankford - 1991 - 257 pages - ....I saw Mary Norris, of the Security office, whose return home, according to Hallett Johnson's cable, is desired by her parents. She is 22 years old, and says she wants and intends to stay here. the World War II diaries of Colonel David K.E. Bruce books.google.com David Kirkpatrick Este Bruce, Nelson D. Lankford - 1991 - 257 pages - ....Saw Priscilla Johnson about her father's (Hallett Johnson of the State Department) cable. She does not want to go home and does not intend to leave. I told her to settle the matter directly with her parents.... Oss Against the Reich: The World War II Diaries of Colonel David ... - Page 230 books.google.com David Kirkpatrick Este Bruce, Nelson D. Lankford - 1991 - 257 pages - Preview 32. Hallett Johnson ( 1 888-1 968) was the State Department's assistant chief, Division of Defense Materials. His daughter, Priscilla Livingston Johnson, was a draftsman in the map division of R&A London. Here Bruce confused Johnson's and Norris's work at the London office. 33. Mary Theresa Norris had arrived in London in March 1944 as a secretary for James J. Gorman, a civilian employee in OSS Security branch. She apparently was successful in defying her parents and stayed with OSS/London until transferring to OSS/Paris in September. Mary Theresa Norris was the daughter of Georgetown Physician Dr. Leo Brison Norris, and his prominent DC socialite wife, so it is obvious diplomat Hallett Johnson cabled David KE Bruce in London with the evacuation requests for both his own daughter, Priscilla Livingston Johnson, and for Mary Theresa Norris. ............................................. Oswald and the CIA: The Documented Truth about the Unknown ... - Google Books Result books.google.com/books?isbn=1602392536... John Newman - 2008 - Biography & Autobiography - 669 pages ....The Case of the Two Priscillas .....To understand the significance of this form, we must return to the 1956 Cunningham memo of August 23. There is something terribly wrong about the contents of this CIA document. It said that Security Office files showed Priscilla's middle initial was "L for Livingston and is not R."8 That the Security Office had uncovered this kind of error is perhaps understandable, but the next sentence was extraordinary: "She was apparently born 23 September 1922 in Stockholm, Sweden, rather than 19 July 1928 at Glen Cove, New York." The Cunningham memo made no attempt to explain this transformation. Instead, the memo rather matter-of-factly proceeded to explain the new history of Priscilla this way: She was utilized by OSO in 1943 and 1944. Clearance was based on Civil Service Commission rating of eligibility which in turn was based on a favorable investigation and record checks. An FBI record check completed 21 August 1956 was returned NIS [Naval Investigative Service]. The 1928 birth date carried in Priscilla Johnson's CIA records for the preceding four years could not be reconciled with this new data unless a fifteen-year-old girl, not yet out of high school, had been working for the Office of Special Operations during World War Two. The Cunningham memo is all the more incredible because it makes no attempt whatsoever to reconcile the incongruity between these two seemingly different Priscilla Johnsons, one an OSO veteran at the time the other was a child. Moreover, this time there was no mention of adverse information about Priscilla's left wing activities. There appears to be too many egregious errors by the Office of Security, and therefore this story does not sound believable..... Historians now have the unenviable task of trying to figure out whether the CIA was inventing a false Priscilla Johnson or whether it was incapable of telling the difference between two people born five years and three thousand miles apart-not to mention possessing different middle names. The Central Intelligence Agency owes the American public an explanation for the case of the two Priscillas, if for no other reason than because a Priscilla Johnson-whom we know to be real-did in fact conduct the longest interview on record with the accused assassin of President Kennedy. The most important question is this: What was the real Priscilla Johnson doing that led the CIA to reopen its interest in her in 1956? The answer might lie in an Agency interest about her 1955 to 1956 sojourn in the Soviet Union. It would not be unusual for the Agency to want to debrief someone who had recently returned from there. But why do two Priscillas then appear in the CIA's files? To proceed logically here, from Priscilla's return from Russia in April 1956 to the emergence in August of the CIA two-Priscillas problem requires more information than we have in the files. One new lead comes from a heretofore unconnected recollection of Priscilla's. It concerns a neighbor, who was a close friend and regular tennis partner of Stuart Johnson's, Priscilla's father. Sometime soon after her return from the Soviet Union, this friend asked Stuart if he might speak with Priscilla about her experiences in Moscow. The meeting took place, and Priscilla told the man what she could remember about her stay in Moscow. That man, who had known her since she was a small child, was F. Trubee Davidson. He worked for the CIA.9 Looking back on her experience now, Priscilla believes it is possi ble that Davidson "was waiting for me to grow up to recruit me." It is an intriguing thought, and one that she has had about one other person too. "The other person who was waiting for me to grow up," she recalls, "was Cord Meyer." While we do not know the extent of Cord Meyer's knowledge or interest in Johnson up to the time that the CIA closed out its interest in her in January 1957, he does show up the next time they become interested. More than a year after this close-out, the CIA again reopened its interest in Priscilla Johnson. On April 10, 1958, CIA headquarters sent a cable to a place that is still classified but which, from all indications, was one of its stations in Western Europe. It contained this detailed and condescending description of Johnson referred to earlier. It is worth repeating in full: Subj DOB July 1928. MA Radcliffe 1952. From wealthy Long Island Famil[y]. Excellent scholastic rating. Application [for] KUBARK [CIA] employment 1952 rejected because some associates and memberships would have required more investigation than thought worthwhile. Once [a] member of United World Federalists; thought liberal, international-minded, anti-communist. Translator, current Digest of Soviet Press, New York, 1954. Considered by present KUBARK employee [who] knew her [at] Harvard to have been "screwball" then; considered "goofy, mixed up" when applied KUBARK employment. No recent data. No Headquarters record [of] prior KUBARK use." The releasing official listed on the bottom left of this cable was then the CIA's chief of Investigations and Operational Support. His name was Cord Meyer, Jr. Again the question is: Why the renewed CIA interest in Priscilla? The answer: Because she was planning to return to the Soviet Union. Cord Meyer's cable in April occurred after her visa application, during the period she was waiting for it to be approved. "I went to Cairo in February 1958," Priscilla remembers, "to see a boyfriend. Then in March of 1958 I went to Paris, and did a little translating in a building on Haussmann Boulevard."" There she worked for "someone I knew either for Radio Liberty or the Congress for Cultural Freedom." While in Paris she applied to the Soviet consulate to go to the U.S.S.R. It "took a couple of months" for the Soviets to approve it, and Priscilla arrived in Moscow for the third time on July 4, 1958. On May 6, 1958-again, possibly on behalf of SR/10-Chief, CU OA submitted a request for an operational approval on Johnson. The operation for which she was being considered is still classified, but we may presume that SR/10 wished to take advantage of her as a "legal traveler" to the Soviet Union in some sort of passive collection role. This time the Security Office furnished a "summary of derogatory information."" Whereas in 1956 the Office of Security failed to furnish CUOA the 1953 "derogatory" information on Priscilla, there was no problem finding this information in 1958. The April 10 Cord Meyer cable, for example, made clear reference to her earlier security rejection. The story after the Cord Meyer "screwball" cable is intriguing. There is evidence to suggest that the CIA, in June 1958, discovered the problem of the two Priscilla Johnsons. A June 6, 1958, internal CIA handwritten note "for the record" on SO 71589, which is definitely one of the real Priscilla's CIA numbers, reads: SO stated this date that which had been previously written was being revised and should be coming down today. In addition [name redacted] stated that [name or office redacted], who is handling the memo, doubted if subject would be utilized because of the record.14 This may indicate that the Stockholm Priscilla, whose Security Office and FBI records checks had been favorable, was being revised to reflect the real Glen Cove, New York, Priscilla. The author of this June 6 memo and office from which it came are still classified, but it is clear that the author, whoever it was, felt that a request to use Johnson in an operational role in the summer of 1958 had been or was about to be killed. The ax came three weeks later, on June 27, as the result of a memorandum from an office whose identity is still classified. In fact, the June 27 memo itself is still entirely classified, and we know of its existence only because of a passing reference to it in another CIA memorandum almost six years later." The possibility exists that while SR/10 had again initiated a request to use Johnson, it was a different office that killed the plan. This is at least suggested by the fact that SR/10 did not submit a Form 937 canceling their interest until August 28.16 ...... The rich man and the kingdom: John D. Rockefeller, Jr., and the ... books.google.com Albert F. Schenkel - 1995 - 248 pages - Snippet view ....Rockefeller's favorite Mount Desert Island club was the Pot and Kettle Club of Bar Harbor, which maintained lands for riding and driving around the island; he joined in 1935, and by 1944 its membership included such notables as Walter Lippmann, Harper Sibley, and Yale president James R. Angell." ...... Diplomatic memoirs: serious and frivolous books.google.com Hallett Johnson - 1963 - 207 pages ....serious and frivolous Hallett Johnson. of giving everything to his job, skilled ability to deal with foreigners, an extremely attractive personality and forthright honesty. I am still, at 75, looking for other constructive work to be done. I will now give in lighter vein an account of our residence and travels in the United States. We settled in Princeton, which as the former President of the University, Harold Dodds, remarked, "is the nearest thing to an American Athens that America has ever had." It was convenient to be near New York, Philadelphia, and I still could not resist making visits to Washington. Moreover, my son Hallett lived in Princeton with his lovely wife Mary Ellen, Jay Cooke's daughter, and their four children: Hallett 3rd, Mary Glendenning, Livingston and Elizabeth. My son has a fine Revolutionary stone house and 75 acres. He runs a three-ring circus as a New York commuter, a farmer and a father. Each of my daughters has six children. Is immortality given us through our sixteen grandchildren? The summers we spend in our cottage at Bar Harbor on Mount Desert Island, which is one of the most beautiful spots in the country and where the mountains come down to the sea. I served there for some time as a Governor of the Pot and Kettle and Bar Harbor clubs, which gave me some room for my restless energy. The Pot and Kettle is a delightful 60-year-old club limited to 60 men. Formerly like The Rabbit in Philadelphia members cooked their own meals but in recent years they have ceased to be culinary experts. We still, however, wear a chef's cap and gown for the cocktail hour before our weekly lunches and are not allowed to have a cocktail before we put on this uniform. John D. Rockefeller, Jr., came but seldom, but it was remarkable to see him in a and gown. Governor Nelson Rockefeller and another son, David, are still members. We tried to get the most distinguished political and other speakers at these luncheons and after the serious part, stories were told, which were very humorous and not always proper. We found that the servant question had utterly changed from earlier years. They can still be had with difficulty but the local people in Maine who are willing to do this type of work are quaint characters. Fishing in a clear Maine lake, irrespective of results, is enjoyable, and I sometimes return empty-handed after a few .... Bar Harbor to Give Concert Tuesday; British War Relief Will... New York Times - Jul 20, 1941 Kenarden Lodge, the Summer estate of Mrs. John T. Dorrance, will be the scene of a concert on Tuesday to be given for the benefit of the British War Relief Click to view article image of Mrs. Hallett Johnson as a guest at the home of Arthur C. Traine in Bar Harbor, ME. Edited July 9, 2012 by Tom Scully
Guest Robert Morrow Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) The bottom line is the Council on Foreign Relations has been filled to the brim with people who are deeply and closely affiliated with the CIA. That explains their outrageous behavior and approach to the JFK assassination. Here is Richard Pipes (CFR) with a blub for a new lone nutter book: Richard Pipes, Professor of History, Emeritus, Harvard University“The Interloper is a meticulously researched account of the three years spent in the Soviet Union by Lee Oswald, a semi-literate failure who could find a home neither in his native America nor in the USSR. It explains a great deal about the psyche of the man who robbed us of John F. Kennedy.” Here is the book: The Interloper: Lee Harvey Oswald Inside the Soviet Union Web link: http://www.amazon.com/The-Interloper-Harvey-Oswald-Inside/dp/0465021816/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374606881&sr=8-1&keywords=Peter+Savodnik Richard Pipes bio: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_Pipes "In addition to being a senior professor at Harvard, Richard Pipes has served as Director of Harvard's Russian Reasearch Center (1968-73), as an expert for the Russian Constitutional Court (1992), as Director of the National Security Council's East European and Soviet Affairs team (1981-82), as a member of the State Department's Reagan Transition Team (1980), and as Chairman of the CIA's "Team B" to Review Strategic Intelligence Estimates (1976). He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. "Mr. Pipes is a member of the editorial boards of Strategic Review, Orbis, International Journal of Intelligence and CounterIntelligence, Continuity, Journal of Strategic Studies, East European Jewish Affairs, and Nuova Storia Contemporanea.. Edited July 24, 2013 by Robert Morrow
Paul Rigby Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 The Kennedy assassination cover-ups were & remain small beer to the Anglo-American elite. To gain a better perspective on the scale of their crimes, see Docherty & Macgregor's Hidden HIstory: The Secret Origins of the First World War (Mainstream, 2013) & Guido Preparata's Conjuring Hitler.
Guest Robert Morrow Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) It really is amazing the amounts of radioactive horse manure on the JFK assassination that emanate from members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Rosa Brooks (CFR) wrote an article saying we have never had a coup in America: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/07/04/america_the_coupless Jacob Hornberger wrote a response to that: http://fff.org/2013/07/09/no-military-coups-for-america-really/ On Rosa Brooks's web page there is a prominent picture of her with fellow CFR member Bill Gates - former CIA chief as well as Secretary of the Department of Defense: http://rosabrooks.com/ The CIA is the military arm of the CFR. And the CFR is the propaganda arm of the CIA. Are those statements a little crude? Or perhaps a lot accurate ... "Brooks has also served as a senior advisor at the US Department of State’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, a consultant for the Open Society Institute and Human Rights Watch, a fellow at the Carr Center at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, a board member for the Open Society Institute’s U.S. Programs, a board member of Amnesty International USA, a Term Member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a lecturer at Yale Law School, and a member of the Executive Council of the American Society of International Law. In 2004, she was the co-director of the task force on Democracy, Development and Human Rights Policy for the Kerry-Edwards campaign, and she currently serves on the board of the National Security Network. She has also served on the steering committee of the White Oak Foreign Policy Leaders’ Project, the steering committee of the Connect US Fund‘s Project on Foreign Policy Priorities for the Next President, and on the World Economic Forum’s Global Agenda Council on Fragile States." Edited July 30, 2013 by Robert Morrow
Guest Robert Morrow Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Here is a blurb for James Swanson's lone nutter book: End of Days: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy http://www.amazon.com/End-Days-Assassination-John-Kennedy/dp/006208349X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381991013&sr=1-1&keywords=jfk+assassination Review “A master of the form, James Swanson has brought his formidable storytelling skills to bear on another tragic turning point in American history. His treatment of Dallas 1963 is grand narrative at its finest.” (JON MEACHAM - Pulitzer Prize-winning author of American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House and Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power) That would be Jon Meacham: CFR member. Edited October 17, 2013 by Robert Morrow
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