Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Nix zoomed Frames: From( N31 - N34) Greer appears to duck down as his face goes from sunlight to shadow. (4) - Frame GIF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Numbered Zoomed Frames: I numbered these as best i could, it was a laborious job trying to match these zoomed frames to the small numbered ones. Edited April 25, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Numbered Zoomed Frames: I numbered these as best i could, it was a laborious job trying to match these zoomed frames to the small numbered ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Numbered frames GIF. 117 - Frames Credit: Rick Needham 5.0MB Edited April 25, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Zap-Nix Composite GIF 4.0MB Original scource was from a mpeg file found on Anthony's website. Slowed down version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 off the cuff ossible reasons for Greers (and offsiders) movement : peering at overpass, braking, bracing for accelearation, avoiding gunfire. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 off the cuff ossible reasons for Greers (and offsiders) movement : peering at overpass, braking, bracing for accelearation, avoiding gunfire. ??? ...ducking/reacting to the debris blown dorward from the headshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Ducking / reacting to pieces of schrapnel hitting the inside of the windshield and the chrome trim just above his head. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Corresponding Z - Frames ( Z-321 / Z-324 ) to the Nix animation above. In Zapruder both Greer and Kellerman can be seen ducking. Edited April 25, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Corresponding Z - Frames ( Z-321 / Z-324 ) to the Nix animation above. In Zapruder both Greer and Kellerman can be seen ducking. Lightened combined frames: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Corresponding Z - Frames ( Z-321 / Z-324 ) to the Nix animation above. In Zapruder both Greer and Kellerman can be seen ducking. Clearer view of Greer and Kellerman ducking ( Frames from JFK the movie ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 (edited) Nice set-up, Robin. I hope I'm not wasting space and people's time here, but compare our Secret Service heroes - the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of the tragedy - in this filmed version: Edited April 26, 2011 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter McGuire Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Nice set-up, Robin. I hope I'm not wasting space and people's time here, but compare our Secret Service heroes - the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of the tragedy - in this filmed version: Ducking? These guys were not potted plants or spectators. Kellerman should have been making a move toward the back of the limousine. Greer should have been taking evasive action. They knew better. They were trained United States Secret Service Agents on Presidential Detail. It was an execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Perhaps I'm seeing it differently...but in the clip Robin shows of frames Z321-Z324, it appears that ALL of the occupants of the presidential limo, except perhaps Jackie, are moving FORWARD...IN UNISON...as if the car was DECELERATING RAPIDLY. Rapid deceleration would explain witness accounts of the limo braking or stopping...and if it was only going 11-12 MPH to begin with, braking would be the ONLY logical explanation for rapid deceleration, as the weight of the vehicle would impart a certain inertia that could only be resisted to the degree shown in the Z-film by the driver applying the brakes. Now, IMHO, THAT'S what I'm seeing, as opposed to any conscious "ducking". Because if Greer is ducking, then everyone else other than Jackie is ALSO ducking...in unison. Due to individuals having varying reaction times, I just don't see it as a spontaneous reaction by an entire group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd W. Vaughan Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Perhaps I'm seeing it differently...but in the clip Robin shows of frames Z321-Z324, it appears that ALL of the occupants of the presidential limo, except perhaps Jackie, are moving FORWARD...IN UNISON...as if the car was DECELERATING RAPIDLY. Rapid deceleration would explain witness accounts of the limo braking or stopping...and if it was only going 11-12 MPH to begin with, braking would be the ONLY logical explanation for rapid deceleration, as the weight of the vehicle would impart a certain inertia that could only be resisted to the degree shown in the Z-film by the driver applying the brakes. Now, IMHO, THAT'S what I'm seeing, as opposed to any conscious "ducking". Because if Greer is ducking, then everyone else other than Jackie is ALSO ducking...in unison. Due to individuals having varying reaction times, I just don't see it as a spontaneous reaction by an entire group. "Because if Greer is ducking, then everyone else other than Jackie is ALSO ducking...in unison" Yes, to the debris (blood, brain, skull, bullet fragments) all blown forward of JFK and Jackie and into the car and onto their bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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