Paul Rigby Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Altgens was a pro who no doubt shot many times prefocused. Doing so with a moving subject REQUIRES tracking the subject in the viewfinder until the come into the zone of focus. This is news and sports photography 101. A brilliantly plausible explanation for why Kennedy was nowhere near the center of Altgens #6, as readers can judge for themselves here: http://img26.imagesh...satevepost1.jpg ROFLMAO! The CENTER of the photo? ROFLMAO! Oh wait it is Paul Rigby. Photo analyst extraordinaire. [/sarcasm] Who just failed photo composition 101. Imagine that. http://photoinf.com/..._the_Don'ts.htm http://www.dpreview....-left-of-center And the list goes on and one and one. What a silly statement by Rigby, surprise surprise. I'm delighted to see that elementary comprehension remains your strong point. Or should that be your "101"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Altgens was a pro who no doubt shot many times prefocused. Doing so with a moving subject REQUIRES tracking the subject in the viewfinder until the come into the zone of focus. This is news and sports photography 101. A brilliantly plausible explanation for why Kennedy was nowhere near the center of Altgens #6, as readers can judge for themselves here: http://img26.imagesh...satevepost1.jpg ROFLMAO! The CENTER of the photo? ROFLMAO! Oh wait it is Paul Rigby. Photo analyst extraordinaire. [/sarcasm] Who just failed photo composition 101. Imagine that. http://photoinf.com/..._Don'ts.htm http://www.dpreview....-left-of-center And the list goes on and one and one. What a silly statement by Rigby, surprise surprise. I'm delighted to see that elementary comprehension remains your strong point. Or should that be your "101"? Just as I'm delighted to see you a failure once again. Or is that your legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Mr. Josephs, the one thing I do not understand from Kellerman is why did he touch his left cheek with his left hand just before the fateful head shots. Is there anything on that fact? It is a long point in time before any "sonic boom" took place to cause him to move his hand upward. He supposedly was talking into his mike... yet there is evidence that these radios were not operational... that he could not have spoken to Lawson... But I hope that answers the question. Mr. SPECTER. As you are positioning yourself in the witness chair, your right hand is up with the finger at the ear level as if clutching from the right of the head; would that be an accurate description of the position you pictured there? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes. Good. There was enough for me to verify that the man was hit. So, in the same motion I come right back and grabbed the speaker and said to the driver, "Let's get out of here; we are hit," and grabbed the mike and I said, "Lawson, this is Kellerman,"--this is Lawson, who is in the front car. "We are hit; get us to the hospital immediately." Now, in the seconds that I talked just now, a flurry of shells come into the car. I then looked back and this time Mr. Hill, who was riding on the left front bumper of our followup car, was on the back trunk of that car; the President was sideways down into. the back seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberdeau Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Ian and Daniel I checked at Duncans and found this newer Nix gif by Rick Needham, posted by Gerda in a thread...showing the piece ,flying out from the back of JFK's head..thank you to Rick and Duncan's site...b b Attached Thumbnails .... Good Day Bernice.... It has always been interesting, research-wise, to realize that NIX was an almost perfect 180-degrees opposite ZAPRUDER when the President's head first exploded. (had NIX been as close or closer than ZAPRUDER to JFK and on the same line-of-sight, the clarity of the NIX film would have probably been much higher while we had the nearly full, 360-degrees view of President KENNEDY when his head first exploded) I am astounded that looking at the above, stabilized NIX gif-animation head shot segment that RICK NEEDHAM provided, that no experienced researcher, immediately, observed what is obvious. With regard to the first-appearing, orange-color-highlight-circled, so-called, "black square" (that first flashes above the surface of the trunk at a level with Mrs. KENNEDY's right elbow), apparently, no one else, on any forum, has observed that large, totally "black square" appears B-E-F-O-R-E the President's head had even, first, exploded. That "black square" appearing before the head explodes, we can be sure, was impossible. (if anyone "thinks" that first, pre-explosion "black square" to have been a piece of JFK's head) In reality, the impacting bullet moved the upper-half of President's head forward about 1" to 2" (and as the skull fractured, the outline of the head also changed) and the explosion was caused by the bullet's expanding, briefly-contained, pressurized shock wave .... then, a micro-second after the explosion, the explosive forces radiating in all directions away from the bullet's trajectory caused the skull fragments and brain matter to be detached from the higher- pressurized inner-skull/head container, propelling them to flying away from the head. IMHO, the initial, pre-head-explosion "black square" is, most likely, a large film artifact; possibly a result caused during or after the film's processing. Additionally, the follow-up orange-highlight-circled, smaller, darker somethings that are seen on the limo trunk appear to me to be dark reflections of something(s) that is/are stationary, that were located above the limo on the grassy knoll. (NIX's camera lens was approximately 12' to 13' higher than the limo trunks horizontal surface) Using an accurate DP map, my one-time, quick, line-of-sight measurement starting from NIX's precise attack-filming location, directed at the Z-313 precise location of when President Kennedy's head first exploded, indicates that the follow-up darker-something's are most likely, simply, reflections on the limo trunk of then-darker colored components of the North Pergola (probably darker because the reflected darker components were in the darker shade caused by the sun). There are also some lighter, sunlit components of the North Pergola seen reflected on the trunk as the limo moves forward. (Thank You and Hat Tip to Chris Davidson) Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations and independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Providing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img835.images...updated1111.gif (2012 updated map, + new information) Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov Edited April 13, 2013 by Don Roberdeau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Anyone talking about Kellerman's "flurry" should specify that this flurry meant two shots. When I see the word "flurry," I interpret it as many instances. I bet that every member here thought Kellerman meant more than 2 shots the first time they heard of this "flurry." but the fact is that Kellerman's flurry= 2: "Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to say how many you heard? Mr. KELLERMAN. I am going to say two, and it was like a double bang--bang, bang. Mr. SPECTER. You mean now two shots in addition to the first noise? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir; yes, sir; at least." If Kellerman had been confident about hearing a three-shot flurry or larger, he would have said "at least three," but he said at least two (after the first shot). Instead of "double bang, bang," he would have said, "triple bang, bang." Kellerman's testimony is consistent with what Pat Speer found to be the most frequent shot sequence heard by witnesses: three audible shots, the last two being closely spaced and the first two being not so close (bang...........bang bang). The use of a silencer is plausible in Speer's analysis since there seem to have been shots at both frame 190 and 223 or so; but people only heard one of these (Kellerman is an example). Shot#1----Somewhere in the vicinity of Z204 to Z207 Approximately 5.9 to 6.0 seconds later: Shot#2/aka the Z313 impact. Approximately 1.9 seconds later: Shot#3/aka survey stationing 4+95 impact. As stated and incated the "flurry" was for the elapsed time between the Z313/second and 4+95/third shot fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 While I have great respect for the work you've done Tom... I simply cannot resolve your conclusion about three and only three shots... The "flurry" was recognized as occurring AT THE SAME MOMENT... not 4+65 and 4+95 which would be a couple seconds later... The "flurry" amounts to a number of bullets, fire virtually simultaneously at the limo and arriving at the limo virtually simultaneously... Let's try to recall the number of SHOT RESULTS observed: 1. first shot miss (sparks seen on the street just as the limo finishes the turn) 2. JFK throat 3. JFK back 4. Tague 5. Manhole concrete 6. JC chest 7. JC wrist 8. JFK head 9. Windshield 10. chrome dent 11. North curb of Elm (p40 Killing of a President) Now I'm not claiming each of these was a separate shot... but I'd like to understand how three bullets did all this... and all from behind no less. DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 First off! Watching too much TV and action movies can easily lead an inexperienced person into believing that copper-jacketed lead bullets create "sparks". They Don't! Tom P.S. Elm St. as well as all concrete curb & gutter (to include manhole covers) was thoroughly inspected during the Time/Life assassination re-enactment. Results---------Absolutely no indication of bullet impact to any location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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